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enjoy book tv on c-span2. >> dental daarel burnette joins us on school reopening. enpresident trump has made it clear will open in the fall and has gone so far as to say last week he will cut off federal funding for schools that don't reopen, can he do that? >> know or it would be very difficult for them to do that . the biggest thing is that most federal funding has already been set out for the school year. this thing is that congress controls the purse strings so they have created rules around exactly when money gets sent out, how much money gets sent out and exactly what school districts need to do toreceive that money . and then the last thing is that if the congress decides to provide more bailout money

for school districts, they would have to agree to get the strength to betsy devos to decide when to fill out money and how to dole any extramoney out . our understanding is no one of the things i want to point out is federal money is targeted for low income schools so what betsy devos and donald trump are saying is that we don't wantto give up already underfunded schools more money . >> you talk about additional federal dollars, how much was in the care for schools and what's being proposed the prozac that democrats are talking about and other plans that are being pushed right now for future additionally. >> the carryback money under thecare , had about $13 million which is really a drop in the bucket for $700 billion a year. that money was really targeted towards, it was

explicit in the law. in one school district to spend that money on laster's extra cost when they had to shut down in march, the first thing that pops forget, on my side etc. the heroes which is what's been proposed in the house which has passed the house, that would provide about $50 billion for schools. again, not enough. most districts, most education advocates are saying the $200 billion to reopen school. right now, senator lamar alexander who runs the senate education committee, he's talking about possibly providing six to $70 billion for and that money would really be geared towards reopening costs such as transportation etc. school districts need to pay their staff so the reopening costs might help but really what

districts need is enough money to survive the school year . and what i should emphasize is that federal dollars are only 10 percent of school funding. the vast majority of school districts rely on local and state aid and state aid has plummeted a. >> we show this article in the last segment of the washington journal when we were talking about school reopening . in early june report from the association school administrators reopening even an additional $1.8 million in costs for the average sized school district, i know there's other numbers out there. can you dive into those numbers of it ? >> sure. so reopening we talked to several administrators about some of the logistical challenges andfinancial challenges in reopening . the asa or the superintendent association estimate was for about 13,000 students, about

$2 million and they're really talking about the hardware of opening schools so ppe equipment which at that time they were estimating that masks cost $10 each but masks are really because there's a shortage of ppe equipment , masks cost about 2 to 3 dollars so i actually think they might be underestimating how much it would cost area some of the other they costs are plexiglas, trying to reduce last sizes which you would have to hire more teachers and more professionals in the school then the schools to do. you want to, if you want to do social distancing, three or 60 you would be have to go out and get more facilities so you would have to take the kids reto you know, the local stadium or take them to the local convention

center in order to conduct classes and that all costs more money . so i've heard more recent estimates in which these numbers can climb into the two, $3 million for school districts. the local superintendent was seeing the masks 400,000 kids , masks alone you would have to spend $10 million and the big thing is for school districts is they might purchase all this equipment and all this is sitting in a storage facility somewhere and they can't use it. it would basically be a waste of tax dollars. >> carol burnett, finance reporter and your questions when it comes to school reopening and financing of that process and what online learning might look like. 202-748-8000, educators the number 202-748-8000 one. all others 202-748-8000 two. you were talking a second ago

about potentially hiring more teachers and yet this was the headline, the story that you put out this week, thousands of educators being laid off already due to covid-19 and more expected. >> this is the thing that nobody's talking about right now you districts are really on the cost of recession in which more thana quarter of their funding could basically evaporate . and we are already seeing a handful of states, massachusetts, michigan, nevada right now, those legislatures talking about cutting a quarter of their funding, hundred 25 million dollars this school year, that's a quarter of their funding which would lead to masslayoffs . we really haven't seen historically, typically school districts are, their cushioned against the economic and women's but i've counted more than half the

school districts are heavily reliant on state income tax revenue and now that the economy as extensively shut down in less than a few weeks effectively shut down again so down twice in the last six months alone were going to see budget cuts at a scale that we have truly never seen. and once congress ends their special session that starts next week, we're going to start seeing space state legislatures reconvene and start cutting budgets and cutting big chunks out of their budget. weeks before the school year starts, possibly after the school year starts we can possibly see midyear layoffs which i think eeis can be very traumatizing for a community. it could be academically distracting for students. >> when you're talking about these layoffs and these districts what are they telling the teachers ? are they saying that theseare temporary or permanent cuts ?

>> there telling them that if congress decides to give them extra money they might be able to rehire them back but m. otherwise people should try to find another job. >> taking your calls this morning, emily is up first out of charlotte michigan area and a parent. good morning. >> good morning. i'm a grandparent, i just want to make a comment, listening to this young man talk about the billions that he made or the school district may ask for from congress or are trying to get from congress and their disparity in that small number and the trillions being given to corporations that were dumped out in the first week of this situation. and now with in the midst of this terrible, horrible social experiment they're running us through a want to send their children back to school without giving you folks enough money to dothe job . i'm just pointing this out as a disparity. i'm sure it's probably

striking everybody else as being a parent too. but you're talking billions and they've already thrown out 3 trillion, 4 trillion, $5 trillion. >> carol burnett, who else is pointing out that disparity ? >> i talked to the superintendent in michigan about potential teacher layoffs and he actually decided to provoke himself this summer to avoid teacher layoffs. his reasoning i thought was interesting . this is in adrian michigan which is a little college town. the school district there is the third largest employer and that town has a 30 percent unemployment rate. so once school districts start laying people off, this will have a and hounding effect on the economy. and in a sense it could also

in effect and we saw this during the last cerecession, it could spark another recession. this is one of the things i think a lot of people aren't really thinking holistic about the role that schools have area they are huge employers. they employ around 1 million people, 3 and a half million teachers and in some towns, some cities they are the largestemployer . not only teachers working in schools , paraprofessionals, custodians, administrators. after school care workers. there's a whole workforce around schools so i think this gentleman pointed out there is a lot of focus right now oncorporations and their survival . but there is less focus on public schools but public schools are, they play a very central role in the economy. >> brenda, redfordmichigan. a parent, how old are your kids ?

>> my kids range from one-year-old to 39 years old. >> what your concern about schools this fall ? >> my concern is kids with asthma and various medical conditions going back to school, schools in michigan i knowa lot of them don't have air-conditioning . the climate and there is hard for children to breathe with a mask on. i'm concerned that there teaching the children right now half the parents don't understand the cause they changed it to other countries wearing the masks g. i think children should stay at home right now until they get everythingunder control . >> daarel burnette. >> thefirst time i was on the show was talking about school facilities . the infrastructure of public schools, their crisis. it's a long-running crisis so i think we've estimated $1 trillion in maintenance costs

. one of the most concerning things about a recession is schools basically freeze upgrades to facilities and so all the schools that have a water pump issue , mildew in the schools etc., all that gets put on the back burner for schools to basically pay salaries instead. one of the things i wanted to point out as this lady to great-grandmother pointed out , schools have a difficult time, school administrators have a difficult time stopping kids from bathing in the bathroom, kissing in the hallways, from confiding in the hallways so we talked about schools trying to keep kids apart, six feet apart all day long because it's very, very difficult and i think this is one of the arguments that a lot of administrators have been making the last few weeks as

secretary betsy devos and donald trump have taken on this mission for schools, the heart of america's public school system is under public control and every town has a unique scenario. there are some towns in america talking about friends or former coworkers in which the infection rates there are 15, 20, 30 percent area they have people dying on a frequent basis and the fear of the coronavirus assome of the colors were talking about is very real, very tangible . there are some communities in america in which they have brand-new schools, kids can work there and some areas in which they can take the kids outside and have classrooms outside and that if it's the kid so i think the interest administrators have been arguing there should be a local decision.

>> of the viewer interested in that segment about failing infrastructure, back in january 12 of 2018 actually not your first time on this program we had you on about three years ago . almost to the day today back in 2017, talking about teacher evaluations read all of darrell's appearances on this program available onour website . use the search bar at the top of the page is your friend and you can find his and all of our guest appearances area far rockaway new york, a parent, you are up next. >> grandparent.ll a quick question. is there any way that the local school systems can link up with online education whereby if you have to make up at least 180 days in the classroom, is there any way i aycan link up the coast online is usually two years in advance and if you're in the

sixth grade you will get seventh and eighth grade education but this way the students cancatch up and not only that you could print out the information and send it in online rather than mailing it in . >> so school districts did do online education in march, starting in march of last year and there were some bright spots. there was a lot offrustration . amongst teachers and administrators. especiallyfor the younger grades . i think that higher ed has really figured out t online education. k-12 is light years behind higher ed. everything from not all students have access to wi-fi and not all students have access to laptop computers. my colleague a couple months ago, not all teachers have access to wi-fi. we have teachers sitting

outside of schools trying to connect to school buildings wi-fi. it is a big logistical hurdle. this summer a lot of schools have decided to go out and purchase more and improved software for online learning and they are trying to roll out more comprehensive online learning . but as my colleague has shown in and week, it's very difficult and i think there's a growing concern amongst k-12 community that in person learning, teachers standing in front of a child works best. i think it's really interesting that betsy devos was saying that the wave of the future for k-12 and now she's demonizing it. i think a lot of k-12 administrators are saying which one is it? but i think like everything

in k-12, it's nuanced. there are some bright spots. there are potential areas of growth. but overall it's nowhere close to in person or as effective at as in person learning. she had pointed out printing out materials. most administrators i talked to in wisconsin and because so many of their students do not have access to wi-fi or computers, r,they spent around $6 million printing out curriculum. and then they spent another million dollars delivering it to kids. they had to basically buy all the postage to put laptop computers, paper in the mail to parents.

again, another logistical expensive hurdle. >> you mentioned the virtual learning and her comments about six months ago versus recently. this was the president last week saying on twitter now that we witnessed it on a large scale basis and first-hand virtual learning has proven to be terrible compared to in school or on-campus learning.it is not even close. schools must be open in the fall. why would the federal government government give funding? it won't. you talk about at the beginning of this segment that he can't really take away funds from federal school districts that have been appropriated and distributed but what other carrots and sticks can the president and betsy devos used other than the bully pulpit and the bully twitter

page ? >> they have to work with congress. my colleague andrea has talked to several experts about this. and i think the department is also scrambling to figure out how scto do this. it's very complicated once you get into the legalities of the powers that the executive branch has over school funding. four years ago the federal government passed the every single kids needs act and the trust of that law was there be two things of the secretary of education. there was a broad consensus under the obama administration that the president and secretary of education should not have oversight over american schools. we all concluded that local control rain and it's interesting betsy devos and donald trump have taken on this role of we are going to tell districts what they can

and can't do and when they can and can't open because the vast majority of their tenure has been all about local control. to the point that administrators, district administrators have been crying for leadership. six months ago when the coronavirus first began, the administrators had basically asked us, they explicitly asked donald trump and betsy devos to tell them whether they should be open or closed. and betsy devos said it was a local decision, you decide. so howthings change . >> next out of fort wayne indiana, a teacher, good morning. >> caller: good morning. i'd like to ask you a question about teachers pay. i am an adjunct instructor and my prospects for becoming full-time are getting very very dim. i'm wondering how you see that playing out in higher ed and those that proliferate through k-12 as far as

teachers pay? thank you. >> guest: teacher pay there is an ongoing local crisis with thegovernor, legislature and teachers union . this was one of the things that manny and i have really racked our brains about because the political momentum behind teacher pay has again, eight months ago, nine e months ago there was a huge movement. teachers decked in red, thousands of teachers decked in red in indianapolis actually pushing state legislatures to increase teacher pay. there was a broad consensus amongst the general public, not only teachers but the

e general public that teachers were underpaid for the work they do. teachers were getting paid o 26, $27,000 a year in kindergarten, first, second grade teachers, the teachers who matter the most in kids lives. so now that these states are dealing with these huge budget crisis, the first thing that will go is teacher pay. all the initiatives to raise teacher pay are thrown out the door. we were tracking which states were and were not going to increase teacher pay and we had concluded this would be the year in which states could finally fork over millions, hundreds of millions of dollars of a cost to increase teacher pay. just raise it i've, $6000. all those initiatives are gone now. and i should point out that any district nthat does decide to raise teacher pay such as denver, their hands full of

counties in florida, all that money is coming out of a savings account. all that money will be gone next year.r.that means that the layoffs will be twice as bad as they would have otherwise been because you raise your teacher pay, teacher pay is about 80 percent of your budget. you won't be able to afford those costs next year and as the general probably knows every year teachers time matters so next year were going to have to be paid three or $4000 more than their being paid this year so it's gobbling up the district's budget and i haven't even talked about this crisis where in march pensions had lost about $1 trillion in value because the market had plummeted . it's recovered sense but this is one of the areas in which states tried to skip the payments this year. that payment will cost even more next year. so the more you raise teacher pay ythe more teachers that we hire, it has a compounding

effect on how much states will have to dole out for school districts. >> one other factor here and you pointed out in our recent story at education week .org if viewers want to checkit out. schools or police? some cities are reckoning on spending priorities . >> i'm glad you brought that up because this is one of the things i'm trying to be so fascinated by about the black lives matter movement is what kinds of conversations it sparked hand in several communities across the country. there are lots of communities who spend more on police and they do on schools. and for years a lot of advocates in majority black schools have been asking their mayors, have been asking their city council and county commissioners why are we spending five or 600, $700

million on police and we are on schools? in some communities police officers are paid more than teachers. although teachers have one, two, three masters degrees and the police have been through the police academy. and we already know the detrimental effects of over police communities in which people are being fined every day. they're being harassed by the police etc. so there are communities in which you have way too many police and to few teachers. so there are lots of communities. rochester new york, memphis, indianapolis, denver, seattle in which they are saying literally let's take the money we're giving police and invest this in school. one of the most concerning things that i didn't touch on

it in my layoff story but we came across several districts that are laying off social workers. laying off county workers. these are the people who are going to be doing the hard work when schools do finally reconvene to basically mitigate all the crisis that comes along with the communities that have been through these past few months . thousands of people dying from the coronavirus. high unemployment rates which leads to more domestic violence etc. area those workers are the ones, not the police officers. so i think a lot of communities are having a come to jesus moment about where our fiscal priorities are . >> host: about 20 minutes left with daarel burnette if you want to join the conversation. all others 202748 8002 and we will try to get to as many calls as we can. colorado, good morning, a

parent. >> caller: good morning. i am a grandparent and i live in a multi generational home and i'm also a custodian. and i've been working as a custodian and the monument school district for about five years . and we have a major problem getting custodians but on top of that my main point is i work in a brand-new school. the school is about three years old now and air-conditioning and heating system doesn't seem to work properly. so upstairs it's really hot. downstairs it's really cold. and the teachers have to bring in fans. besides that, i'm wondering what are they going to do because when the kids go to the bathroom, they're going to have somebody outside the bathroom and in other words on duty all the time to go in there and cleaning bathrooms. lyi believe it's probably one of the worst places for the

kids to pick up the disease so instead of going into the bathroom say three or four times during the day in my shift, i believe someone's going to have to be posted outside so they can go in there on maybe every 15 minutes to clean up. and my wife is a schoolteacher on top of that, retired. i used to work inside the industry and ineeded things to do when imoved to colorado so i saw they were having problems getting janitors so i applied to be a janitor and they hired me . but they were shorthanded . and i don't understand how they're going to be able to reopen schools safely and i'd like to thank both of you for having an informed conversation. >> host: thank you for what you do. daarel burnette. >> guest: that is i think one of themore unexplored areas of this crisis . so there's already been an outbreak in schools. we've already seen this so we don't have to be arise about this.

they had summer school there and they had kids and teachers in the schools. they had an outbreak and had to shut the school down and for 2 weeks straight they had to wipe down that entire building. and this is a financial ballistic political hurdle from a financial standpoint. you're going to have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on bleach. i was talking to a superintendent in california which she has to open all these backpacks which the janitors carry these backpacks full of bleach and they can spray bleach across the schools read she has never even thought of buying so she's buying all this equipment for bleach. you're going to have to hire more janitors so most schools already know about one or two janitors on staff.

you need about four or five or six scanners working overtime, overtimepay is about twice as much as you would have to pay for regular costs . so that from the financial standpoint. then from the political standpoint n, a lot of superintendents have told me you have to make parents feel safe enough to come back to school. we already know students have sent out these surveys asking parents do you know comfortable sending our kids back and most parents say no so you have to get that school shining. second span. the lockers have to glisten on the hallway floors. .you have to spend a lot of money just to make sure that people afeel safe enough to come back. so as he was talking, and he outbreak in schools, that means the school will have to shut all the way down and top

to bottom cleaning which is something that school districts have never really tried to figure out. i think the closest is probably lice outbreaks. and i talked to several, when i was a reporter in kentucky in louisville kentucky, we had lice outbreaks all the time and these superintendents were talking about the challenge of trying to contain this. it's just very very big harm and this goes back to the concern that a lot of administrators have when you shop schools down because of an outbreak that two, three, four weeks in which you are not in school and you have to shift back to distance learning which we have to wrap up the distance-learning and then you also have all the ppe systems not being used so if we're talking about the isefficient use of tax dollars this is not the way here's another outside

the classroom area to explore. beyond the portable on twitter who asks the question nobody has asked, what about school buses left and mark how are they going to social distance in a steel tube full of kids and a majority of bus drivers are retired working forhealthcare coverage . >> guest: we had a series about transportation and this is the one area in which school districts say we looked at the transportation cost. we said no, we will do it online. schools have to double, triple, possibly quadruple their bus route in order to maintain the distance and that means you can put about 12 kids on a school bus . and that means you can only bring so many kids to school every day. one of the thingswe did was we basically came up with a guide to how to get kids , how to basically do kids walking to school because when we distance class we said we can't transport all the kids to school so let's

get all the kids a two or three miles away from school to walk to school and face-off with volunteers. this is a real logistical hurdle but this is the area which will cost three, $400,000 just for the first six months. in north carolina they were saying six feet distance on buses. and you have to have somebody on the bus to screen temperature check kids on the bus. so the districts got up and they said we can't do that area so mysteriously a couple weeks later this guidance just disappeared and they said three feet distance. i think this was the concern a lot of inadministrators have is that in the weeks before school starts, so just to remind you i think a lotof people are talking about when schools open this fall , will schools are going to open in the next few to three weeks. august 5, august 6 in some

states . so when schools start in the weeks before school started, this guidance is rolling. if keeps changing and the cdc guidance changes. the scientists came out with guidance and all kinds of people, state and federal and localofficials are coming with this guidance and every time it changes , the prices changes and the districts already have enough money to afford this and they're asking which and i think this makes it even more difficult and we're finding more and more to fix saying let's just do online instead. on the cdc guidance, president trump tweeting last week about his disagreement with the cdc guidance saying that he disagrees with their very tough and expensive guidelines for opening schools while they want to open their asking schools could be very impractical things i will be meeting with them. and you talk a little bit about the specifics of the cdcguidance ?

>> again, this is all in regards to are we talking six feet social distancing, three feet social distancing. temperature checks before school or nottemperature checks . i think cdc is down on this but i want to get to this part of the dilemma for administrators rsadministrators don't want blood on their hands . they know their staff members,they know their principles they have relationships . schools are some of the most workforces in the country. they have not only emotional connections with the kids. i have emotional itconnections with their coworkers because theirgetting together . for hours on end during the school year, they know their friends. it is basically what i'm trying to say and i think it's heart-wrenching for the school in which there was a school district in which the principal at a professional

development training and there was anoutbreak . the vast majority of principles the coronavirus. the superintendent had to go to those principles next year , the next week and say please come back to school. and i'll have your best interests at heart. and they have to tell the parents that and that. i think it's easy for politicians to say we will just change the guidance to make this more affordable but you change the guidance and all of a sudden you are operating schools in what i call and bad faith matter and you have complete outbreaks. parents, grandparents ending the coronavirus because the kids read the coronavirus to the parents or grandparents and we've seen cases in which the kids have the coronavirus, it's not pretty and one of the things i should point out is that most of, a lot of the studies on students who have the coronavirus, they are healthy kids .

a lot of kids in america have diabetes, they have the existing elf conditions, they are obese, etc. and we're not even talking about school, high school kids read the coronavirus will make their bodies and i don't think superintendents want to answer to that. so it's a hard decision. >> about 10 minutes left with their overnight, zachary in west lafayette indiana. aparent. how old are your kids zachary ? >> i am a five-year-old so they would have been in kindergarten this year and the other is three 30 . >> ldwhat your question for daarel burnette. >> a few comments you mentioned feeling safe as a parent. the big thing is to know that it's safe before sending our children obviously school. e and it seems that we're supposed to be doing differential instruction in schools. i used to work in the school

myself and we're adverse that right now and much like the coronavirus being novel, we have to come up with novel solutions and everything that's being bdone or at least offered locally, we're trying toreplicate what seemed done in the classroom . an online as opposed to figuring out ways of collaborating across school districts u, incorporating our libraries who are hurting during this time to provide resources. so my question to latinx is why are we trying what we've always done knowing we are in a completely unique tuition and we had since april since we're planning for this. we haven't genuinely engaged the students most importantly, they're the ones that have to be in these buildings and the parents, that's where local control n should start the school board, a lot of them have started in mid-june june talking about these publicly. and i'm just curious what you've heard in terms of why schools are going out to their communities they serve to get everyone involved, brainstorm, get some ideas

out there ev80 how we can uniquely go after this next school year with a novel approach. and it's collaborating with possible. >> thanks for the question. >> i'm glad you mentioned ti that because a 12 is historically really struggle with innovation. a lot of it has to do with its racist past. with its district lines, with its governance models which is unique and frankly nonsensical. districts work against each other rather than with each other. and there has been a lot of crying out for help from superintendents. and i think one of the things that doesn't get a lot of play in the media but one of the things a lot of administrators have been

saying is that instead of attacking us about whether or not schools should open or not secretary devos, provide us some answers. provide clues as to how we can do this better. there is a lot of crying out for help from state leaders. from governors, state departments of education which have been dotted the last 10, 15, 20 years. there are few people in the state department of education who can come up with these answers . so for example , the subscription rate has tiincreased by 200 percent in the last six months and that's not an exaggeration. one of the onreasons that is is because quality information is golden. we are seeing lots of administrators coming up with some very unique interesting ideas as to how to go about educating kids this summer but they are working in a lot

of k-12 administrators like to use, they're working in silos independently. they come up with these ideas and executing it in the district and nobody really knows about this so i think there's a lot of opportunity in the coming weeks and months when these budget cuts come knocking and their coming years or districts start working across district lines. >> .. good morning, you are next. call i have read studies in iceland. the transmission rate in children from coronavirus is very low, very very very low and

i've heard of other studies in ireland. since there's contradicting science out there and children may be slow to spread the disease i'm curious of the response to that information. >> guest: i'm not a scientist. i'm a school -- districts are being inundated with lots of research and just like i'm an education reporter and notun a scientist they are administrators who art ministers and they are not scientist so they are trying to figure out to trust.st and what all this research is brand-new so you do you take a risk or do you not take a risk? i'm not in the washington journal studios because there is a risk that i could transmit the

virus to the producers at the "washington journal." if you don't trust the tv studio and the transmission and why should the schools trust the transmission rate so i guess it's one of those things that we should remember that schools yes there are lots of kids in school and there are lots of adults in school and you are taking a gamble with everything that you do. >> host: one of our callers in our last segment of this program we were talking about concerns about schools was concerned about the influence of the teachers unions on this decision. there's a headline today in the "washington times," biden allied union fights school reopenings t achers reject calls from trump. can you talk about the roles teachers are playing nationwide right now?

>> guest: sure. just like i do and just like every employee in america i want to go back to work in a safe environment so i think this is the unfortunate thing about the criticizing of the fact that in an election year when trying to gete votes we are not making decisions based off of science, based off of logic in based off of what lots of k-12 research says about what kids need. were making decisions on whether or not politicians can get votes. again i think this is a matter of students wanting to go back to a safe working environment and i should also pointay out tt the teaching workforce is older women so in many communities

they are older women of color. a lot of people who have pre-existing conditions who are afraid of getting the virus and there's already a teacher shortage. we have lots of teachers getting the coronavirus and others dying because they are lots of teachers who have died of coronavirus or are retiring and that creates another crisis for school districts one year or two years down the line for them. >> host: daarel burnette is a school finance reporter with education week. you can find them on line at @education week on twitter. we always appreciate you stopping by at the "washington journal." >> guest: i appreciate it. thanks again.

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