>> california democratic congressman. his second congressional district spans from the golden gate bridge all the way up to the oregon border. first came to give a sense of the impact of the wildfires in the district and how your constituents are doing? >> thanks for having me and asking. this is a tough summer for the folks in the second district and all over california and much of the west. we have had the worst wildfires certainly buy a bridge that the state has ever seen. my district has borne a lot of thought and as we begin to get containment on some of the biggest fires, we are still not out of the woods. we have several more weeks of fire season ahead of us and the

intensity of t the smoke has ben so great and has been held in place for so long that they are quality in almost every part of california is very unhealthy and so we are struggling and people are feeling the health effects. many of them have been evacuated and have lost homes.un >> host: compared to 2018 which is known as the worst wildfire season on record, 103 confirmed today that they are, landy 2 million acres of burned. are we getting close to that? >> we are beyond that in terms of the acreage burned. thankfully we haven't lost as many lives. remember 2018 was bad, that was the paradise fire with the year before we had those vatican hates my district and we had entire neighborhoods just

completely scorched and burned to the ground and the most dozens of lives, so we had four consecutive years sort of off the chartsf wildfires and it's tough. >> this year you are doing it with a pandemic. can you talk about the added challenge is? >> is compounded us in a couple of important ways. first we were less prepared for this fire season. normally in the springtime especially if we had fun doing and the other agencies working together we would be out doing vegetation management and controlled burns to try to reduce the fuel load. you do that during the months when it's safe to light the controlled burns. we were dramatically less able to do that proactive vegetation management this year because of the pandemic and that hurt us. then when the fires came, your ability to marshal resources to stand up these massive fire

camps and mobilize and pull in firefighters from all over the place and if you've been to one of these camps, they are like small cities. you have dining facilities and people stand very close together. all of that had to be reimagined to be safe during a pandemic. .. >> and impacted natural

disasters. with a natural resources secretary we were to get your reactions back up partnership on the ground is amazing. we had temperatures explode the summer 130 degrees and death valley even a greater l.a. 120 plus degrees weather where we tread to make our summers and winters warmerumme wide area of mutual agreement management but we went to work with you to recognize change of climate and what it means our forest and work together with that science that is key because if we ignore that science have that are ahead in the sand we will not succeed to protectt california.

>> it will start getting cooler. just you watch. i don't think science knows, actually. >>. >> i don't know where to begin i i this president is so opposed to facts and science and like a pandemic if you do have to listen to the people you can't just wish it away and with climate change and these wildfire conditions this is reality those that are living it don't have the luxury to pretend it will get cooler and go away or you can rake the forest. a lot has been said about this president and his problem with the truth and science but

that's the main take away that lives and property are at risk that's the opposite of leadership is dangerous and reckless speak you served on that committee what sort ofth legislation are you trying to move. >> there was a 500 page report as the final work product and then it's up to the different authorizing committees to take those recommendations to put them into legislation some of that has already started to happen. there was quite a bit in that systemon the natural to make them more resilient and the extreme weather conditions but if were smart about the way we managee

them to become a part of the solution. you think of these for his plans with these out-of-control wildfires that's not good it is emitting carbon but if you can do that in ways with larger growth trees they do a wonderful job to so request that air out of and then to healthy forest are also more resiliental enable to hand or an occasional fire without spinning out of control like we see throughout much of the o west. >> sitting here in portland now the most toxic the air is actually dangerous to breathe

and then ask that suits remain outside any length of time it's like being on the service of another planet what can we do to get the rest of the country tooa see our president is their future? >> that's the right question we are the fast-forward for the rest of the country if anyone thinks this is just a california product problem it's not this is coming to the entire west and other extreme weather impacts the matter where youom are with crazy storms in iowa, the increased intensity of the gulf coast and atlantic coast there's no place in the united states that are speared from the devastating impacts from climate change so we all need to pull together with the narrowing window of opportunity to turn this around we still can take

action to prevent the worst of the impacts from unfolding some will have to mitigate because it's already set in motion so that is the right question. >> good morning why don't we hvest under every year for space as soon as the fire starts why don't we do that? >> with 740 sevens that are

retrofitted they have been flying over the skies of california forward inor washington they are stretched very thin we are talking hundreds of fires around the west we do need more types of assets those that contain wildfires in those droneom technology those drones can fly above even when there is no visibility and we're unable to fly and then they can use technology sensors to see through the smoke and tell us where the fire is burning and other vital information so firefighters can make their strategic plans.

and that is what is being deployed right now there is a lot of state funding that the national guard has a lot of the's assets in the forest service there is the entire fleet of assets like ferything else it's the mutual aid system. lotter private you have the 747 i mentioned it is contracted out each year to agencies and states around the t country. >> i would like to protest we don't get the opposite view ever on the media or c-span but there are opposing views.

those are just as valid as those people that are speaking now. but for those that use climate as a tool. >> i really wish that were true. it would be so much easier to declare it a hoax and believe

me want nothing better the way everything has been sorted into the t partisan and alternate reality you are told you can choose from who would want to chooseho the one for you could continue business as usual to burn fossil fuels that change andve convenience with our new impacts why would we not continue to do that? there isn't an opposite science feel and those that reflect and it is dangerous to take it too seriously go to independent sources if you think democrats can't be trusted then go to the most knowledgeable scientist in the

world the most independent authorities in fact check for yourself you will find this isn't just two choices you can pick from there is actually a right and a wrong. and what i am telling you is the truth validated by the overwhelming majority with the other notion is deeply dangerou dangerous. >>host: are people trusting science less than they did? >> because they are being encouraged to trust sire on - - science a less it is very threatening to those who would like to exploit the low information public policy.

>>host: next line democrat from new york. >>caller: i just heard mr. hoffman say that is low andtl uneducated in the science that he talks about if they had any sense whatsoever would stop at the d4 station and get rff your high horse with the agenda of 2030 prior there was a republicans speaking about that which is about a marxist take over and new world order. >>host: you are calling in on theth democratic line. >> i was speaking about the lady before was a republican thing.d the same exact democrats and republicans do think the same it's not

because people are uneducated but they have open their minds and can see theeir truth. this man and these people were running the country are satanic. >> the guy who was running the country to clarify as president trump. i don't even know where to begin. the conspiracy theories are finding traction and being fueled by all sorts of reckless to mcgraw one - - demagogues and you just heard a great example of when people accept these things that are not true and then they are misled. look what president trump is doing with his authority and breaking down the democratic institutions to try to seize more power from himself this is a fascist playbook.

if you want to believeve these crazy conspiracy theories i don't want our country to go there. >>host: back on the issue of wildfires i will never understand why people build their homes and known fire and flood areas imagine the money saved on homeowners insurance. is that the problem? >> we do need to have a conversation about the wetland urban interface said how much if we build their but also the standards we require people live in these areas with building codes and materials. talk about the floodplains that is a conversation asa well. we just can't keep building these homes at or below sea level that continue to be hit tos.by storms.

that is part of the conversation with climate change it doesn't mean you have to move or get rid of entire communities but we have begun to do that with the lack of fire insurance is forcing that conversation just like flood insurance. >>host: why hasn't the scourge of wildfires happened on the east coast? >> there are just different conditions. in the west we have one set a time with nore rain that is just part of the arid mediterranean climate. before we developed the west starting to suppress the fire it was a very natural part of theent ll system. you would see lightning sparked players in the summer

and native americans used to induce fires because they knew it hadff beneficial effects but we have been suppressing fires we've also done cutting over to replant in ways to have them come back at much higher density without the same diversity and that has led them more vulnerable to wildfire as well. it with different conditions and vegetation you will start to see these in the forest well.s >>host: mark a democrat from new jersey.

>>caller: i just want to thank congressman huffman for his work and intelligence and sorry he has to be exposed to the low information and people who have not done their homework. this is the existential threat we are all facing. 97 percent of scientists agree. may either work together to do something about this or fight each other which is happening now and are this horrible president. went to urge people to look at biden's energy plan. he wants to have all renewable energy by 2035 that is very ambitious in the way we have to go. start going to the future and stop fighting each othe other, people. thank you. >> i appreciate that very much i cannot say it any better. >>host: we have five minutes

left from the second district of california we found out on capitol hill speaker pelosi plans to keep the house in session until there is a deal with coronavirus relief. is that possible? >> it depends on how you define a deal there has been somere reporting some that when a deal and others that don't every single house democrats once a deal. we want to do something more on pandemic response but some in our ranks that will lead except a deal that doesn't help many people even if it is the last chance to legislate that's it they made clear we might have one more chance to do something.

so here we are faced with a crisis that many of us think requires an action that meets the moment to help address critical needs not just extra unemployment insurance or state and local governments over the postal service to deliver the mail but all of that together. we are willing to compromise on the shape and size of that package but has to meet theee needs and just speaking for myself, i don't want to just vote on anything just to check the box to go back to my district to say i did something if it doesn't actuallyle help that's were trying totr figure out can we get our republican colleagues to work on something that makes a difference or do we just try to check the box to

enjoy that political cover are not interested in that. >> what is a lowest dollar figure youre would accept? >> at 2 trillion-dollar range. i agree. that crisis and we're still battling the pandemic i was just on a conference call with doctor fauci yesterday and he is worried of the scenario where flu season combines with the problem with the coronavirus and we can quickly findes ourselves in a deeply on - - in a deep hole to get states and local governments the resources they need to fight this pandemic and that the postal service and the

ballots to have a fair election and we have to have a national strategic plan with ppe stockpiles and procurement that forms the basis of what should be a 2 trillion-dollar package. >>host: only one or two more phone calls for the congressman fraser park republican good morning. >>caller. good morning. i lives in the middle of one ofat the largest national forest in california. due to the local forest office year one - - here along with the current county fire

departmen department, they do a huge amount of controlled burns, they call it mastication where they do clearing of overgrown brush and fallen trees. and in my immediate area, we have been one of the safest areas from fires thankfully because of good management. but in other parts of the los padres forest, the brush and that deadfall is so thick it is a cause of higher fires. and as far as climate change

, i am 60 years old. my family has been in california over 150 years my husband's family has been in california for over 150 years. this is a cycle. we have had so many years of drought and el niño and heavy snows that were unanticipated by science. you cannot control what is going on up in the north or the jet stream as well as the united states in general we are one of the cleanest countries as the world. >> you have obviously put a lot of thought into these things to live in a very beautiful, part of california love loshe padres.

there are some theories out there of the cycles in this will turn around those theories are not validated by the leading climate scientist in the world look at some independent sources don't take it from me but go to the folks that are the smartest people in the world who has studied this and look at the data. so that drought was different than prior droughts going back hundreds and hundreds of years and we may still be in then middle of what is a mega drought and california and much of the west this is what we are told to expect more of in the future not a rebounding

cycle for everything will be just fine and it is dangerous as part of the existential roulette wheel if we believe the cycle will be better sometime t soon i choose to listen to those scientists i hope you'll take a closer look in terms of the contribution to global warming, you are right we cannot control what happens in thehe arctic what there is far less see i.c.e. and there is reporting this week what is doing to the i.c.e. shelf in the arctic or antarctic and what that is doing two things like the jet stream and the dynamics that drive the weather all over the itplanet. it is spinning out of control climate scientist say we could be entering into it. we don't even know whatt the

weather will look like. because it begins in the arctic and is changing dramatically with the most extreme changes from the most global warming and this is a consequence to say is a cleanest country in the world ignores the fact my huge portion of the accumulateded carbon dioxide and those in the atmosphere right now came from our country. we produced way more of that than anyone else. if you look at the high point of our admissions therefore we pat ourselves on the back but we have a long way to go and then towards clean energy because we have a disproportionate responsibility to create this

problem. and that is good for the climate crisis we can be there world leaders on clean technology on climate solution and you will see an end to get bold on action and then to have good paying jobs so i am happy to leave you with that with what is a grim crisis. we appreciate your time this morning.

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