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tv   David Michaelis Eleanor  CSPAN  November 24, 2020 6:30am-7:31am EST

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yr book is a portrait of new york. it goes down to washington. she's a new york girl and she
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ves among new york and as much as she ies to get away from that gilded age, edith wharton's land and the vanderbilt, her mother in law said the vanderbilt might divorce him. the delanos do not. fdr got a library at he shipped home from europe so that these names and histories come back into their lives. >> they were the ones in charge at that point, there slightly older version of great wealth, wh struck me about new york. i'm glad you saw the portrait, what was left on the cutting room floor, anthank you, you helped me cut oua lot of
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that. the city she was born into was much -- the city absolutely polarized between imaginable wealth and unimaginable poverty and each new wave of immigrants arrived and came into the city. the owner was going to tranend or in some ways very committed reshaping and savings. and our smith and eleanor herself. d saved people. you get off the boat. d and the favor when you don't tell you to vo.
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eleanor and franklin, that replaced the crupt machine city of boston. and and the prosperity to call that, with the roosevelt. it was strange and sad, the statue of fellow roosevelt.
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and the late 90s, and the courtesies were the courtesies of a civil or -- similar wom in the classic time, she didn't worry about being identified or labeled accorngly, that kind of freedom, is a triumph for her. and never became uncomfortle with becoming a woman of her time. >> one more beat for the realm
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of others questions, it is an amalgam of the section that covers the first years after fdr's election for presidency i was struck by something you mentioned how many conditions on the financial crisis, presidential elections, climate disaster, many more things, similar to what we are going through right w, how can we use what you learn from eleanor and how sh reacted to one of these things -- >> there are two good answers. she's listening to the job
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description of first lady and her listening was very dpnd sincere and profound listening to how that might affect, a doctor listens with her back, used to ke diagrams of the rest of the family, what kind of inesses you inherited, she was a diagnostician when she listened and was wide open to what you had to say and without questi the ability to listen is the most important thing she would say, hatred is upon us for a while, in a way that was unleashed or takes people by
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surprise, shocked me to find the kind of hatred in public li. and she was absoluly reviled. and ku klux klan, and her during the obama years out in the street as part of the diourse. her ability to let that go, never react directly to find a way around or over or under, was never committed to winni
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or making her point, she was alwaysoving past that and movement itself and lettingo, moving forward and letng go where the things, didn't see much of now, people get stuck. >> some questions that came in from our view words. >> they were sent in early, and asking myself was eleanor a college grad with early education and who influenced eleanor the most? i would love you to talk about
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a remarkable experience of education and fdr's approach to education, was clearly hunte and in a good way, both greatly formed by their education, tell us mor >> eleanor was told by her andmother that if she were to go to college she would ner attract a man, theoint of college with the mr s degre the fine tunings of a debutante, they were not encoaged, in eleanor's neration, you see from her generation, women did go to
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college but not, and the sister of theodore roosevelt had gone anbecome the it girl, a charismatic french womanho was progressive in her politics but emphasized one thing that a woman needed to pay for hersel the idea of education, was thought to be harmful to women's health, a younwoman might get ideas, influenced by things you might need to send her away someplace if she got too carrd away. this was almost radicalhe way she was taking the aristocracy both internaonal and international girls, were not being told at home to think for
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themselves or say much of anything, len to speak their minds and to carry an argument through to defend their part of the argument, skills that today are natural to a sixth grader were denied for a young man 15 and over. she stayed and wse favorite she became, more a sense of a physician, graduate student or assistant professor role where she had things tteach younger girls, she had responsibilities, she was what she became all her lifehich was an intermediary she
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defend various classmates, to her classmates, she took education as a gift and what she learned she brought back, became temple for her whole life. she amed herself later, when standards,nd they knew nothing about, they pick up details and cameack with that latein the conversation as if she knew more than she did. it is not exactly what we would call it todayr projecting
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things, pjecting herself to curtail, i will learn fromhe ground uand not simply take this more diplomat version. >> he went back to 1901 and was subjected by her grandmoth to the whole range of debuntes coming out with rituals and rights, and her parents had died, her mother had died in the ascendancy amonnew york society, she had lost her ther in a sndalous way, and the less attractive daughr
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they say, and hands and aunt edith wharton ag of innocence kind of ritual to -- trib rituals. and wn -- i found another outsider and on ball, a quite magnificent chdhood, it is an isolated - sento gretna
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school late, to have bondi at that school, it was a world where he was considered an outsider. when they met i thought it was part of aeeting of the oddballs because they were cousins but they were both odd among their peers, thewere charismatic, each in a different way, quite dynic d magnetic but at that time they were both the outsider, part of the attraction. >> the influence, it needshat kind of cast of chacters but the answer and uncles in this -- iyou have ever seen the magnificent amberson's which is
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a story about the halls, was magnificent, falng down the industrialism and e new world overtakes it, she ved in this use as an orphan on the hudson river with an empire, looks as iit is out of the maificent ambersons. these ands and uncles falling down, the uncles were quite astonishingly the tens champions a day, ty were the earliest champions in the aunts were dazzling beauties of the moment in all the mazines -- >> the valentine. and valentine junior. >> ule valley was an amateur actor, when uncle valley and
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uncle eddie won on the east coast in 1880 they moved on to the naonal championship sevel years later by 1888, it was part of this bold contacti glory. and out of control, it was not a gothic or horrifying, and almost proxy trustee. she was e one who showed up atolice stations when they had gone on a bender in new york, the tenderlo district and show up at the station house.
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and saying something has to come together. he was theane of eleanor's life later on. was still carryg on and uncle eddie's life also went to seed, she was very loyal to those aunt and uncles, they did so much bettethan the uncles. it was the beginning of -- sn't displaced people. it was eleanor's job, she buried them. take care of their children, the numbers of pple and things eleanor would be writing checks f in her adult life,
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the numbers of inviduals whose fate she had a sense of responsibility f was extraordinary. let alone all the people who plied in her political world. >> getting close to the end do you want to ask the main queson and do the final one? >> so many questions, you go ahead with one more and i will do the final or actually we have people line who were named eleanor after eleanor. you went across that are any comments on eleanor. >> keep talking, got to lo for this quickly. >> how many people made that
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comment when theregistered. >> because of eleanor. >> is another thing. >> i keep on the next -- am i still on? i keep almanacs on certain things. i gan keeping an almanac of the things that were named for heor after her, a mid season ld its petals as if in a cup, amber tipped tower lily, cake, strawberry, wild west rodeo playing to segregated audience in the south, 0 to anyone who can write eleanor roosevelt fo two seconds in south carolina the 50s. a shade of blue, phantom
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consracy eleanor club, spaghetti strapped wedding gown, a bar, a chicken, milwaukee restaurant, innumerable public and vocational schools, college and university of california, san diego, honorar chapter of kappa delta 5 r distinguished educators, elegant red brick colonial dormitory at rhode island state college, and roosevelt, and massachusetts, eleanor louise greenwich born october 20 thi 1940, eleanor bergstein, 1948, writer of the new thing, myriad tests including female basset hound and rhodesn ridge back, political science, 200cre tract of land, population 20,000, homestead town i pennsylvania containing the la syllable of her first and
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last name. and in wt virginia, a lake in yosemite national park she helped with rabowrout, telling us embassies, golf course hazardsncluding t-shaped bunkers and especially the 368ard park or sixteenth hole, and the fourth pole the required eleanor's teeth. a white dahlia. it is alwa on the go. that is my name. that is my naming almanac of eanor. >> this will probably grow. >> the last question as many of them have been is a combination of questions from people and
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that is was eleanor appreciated by the plic during her lifetime or was it the impact only realizeafter her death? the second half of that question, is heregacy relevant in today's world. there is so much pain in the world. eleanor is a figure now because she was a person who did try to heal and could. the legacy in the world today, to see her, at connection which we are not able to do that in real time.
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the spirit is global and became global because it is universal about human begs, finding and seeing the humanity of somebody else and taking it into yourself. it is the strangeness she was nominated for the nobel peace prize but never given it. the chairman, the universal declaration of humarights, attempts to bring basic rights to peoplin all nations across the globe and serves an instrument for those rights going forward, should have bn awarded the honor but her life was so full of honor, i don't thk it mattered to her
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all. if it never took place, e would be the first to say she didn't, itas for her husband's policies or carrying out her husband's policies. even her lifetime, she fel beloved by people. she communicated their lovand admiration in public. peop stopped her frequently on the street where she was and she connected frequently with peop. she always gave it t franklin, her husband, as president of the united states, a great war leader who did not see the end the war, gave her endless decades of widhood in which she could start step what tensions werbrought to her that she was simply carrying out her husband's legacy.
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that wasn't true. she wod deflect when she needed to deflect. what she wanted always was connecti andhat she wanted was belonging and what she wanted was love. she fod that in part and yet never held it. her struggles with that and se herself whole manifested at the end of her life. what she had done was enough. the struggles with tuberculosis she said to herself it is not who i am to languish and stayed away in invalid world, i would rather go now. in recognizing tt, which she had been put on earth too. she had not expressed the kind
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of -- my forite monument, the full of grace monument, thinking about that, arthur socitor's gravestone appears in btie and engraved on the stone. his stone says something like be to love and her stone says she tried. i think eleanor tried. i thinshe tried, she was loved. finding that from herselfas a great struggle but i do think that tay even the digital world of eleanor roosevelt, the inspiration she brings to
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people even saying no one can make you inferior without your consent, the future belongs to those who believe the beauty of her dreams. they are brought forward lik the times we are living in, the authority confus as to its role as to how to bring people into the process they are alienated om. eleanor's main goal and great legacy is to say your government does belong to you. you have aole to play, not just given to you, somethin you need to give and step up and vote. >> i le delano roosevelt my entire life and after reing your book my love is even more. thank you for that. we are going to come back on. >> that was really a question.
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>> thanks to all 3 of you, beth anmargaret for coming up with big questions, and the ones we lk about, weill talk about eleanor roosevelt, for giving us theremendous work of scholarship and archival work and anyf us around o age, even older than us are younger than us, she remains the quintessential first lady, when you think of what a president's spouse should be like, the when yo measure against his eleanor roosevelt, the book makes clear, i appreciate insights, what it might tell us for the mes we are in now going on
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