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and more. since the march 2020 closure of many businesses across our great country, we're ensuring that we are still delivering worldclass constant even if you can't get to our hill top to watch in person. in this week's virtual event we bring you chris wallace, anchor of fox news sunday. 2014 marked his 50th year in the broadcast industry. he's participated in coverage of nearly every major political event and secured high profile interviews with u.s. dignitaries and leaders. chris wallace broadcast, and he's here to speak about his new book, count doub 1945, the historic story of the atomic bomb and the days that changed the world. an accounts of lives of war

times americans and japanese and the soldiers, waiting to launch on japan. harry truman goes to the vice-president completely cut out of the white house and to become president. it's not only a story, but it's for the flight crew. we invite you to join us, from the academy oval office with chris wallace and the reagan foundation director. >> chris wallace, congratulations. what a terrific book. as you may know, we have a lot of guests come to the reagan library with some good books and i'm not able to read them all. i could not put this one down. this is a terrific book, chris, a thriller, really, a historical thriller that i just loved it and so congratulations

on not just the first effort, but a great first effort. >> thank you. that's awfully nice. i will say this idea of the historical thriller it seems to be out there because my favorite review was one in "the washington post" that said i know what happened in 1945, but this book is a thriller and a lot of people have said that, it's a page turner. they couldn't put it down and i'm thrilled because frankly, that's exactly what i want to do. i think that so much history is written, this is in the distant past and we know what happened and why it happened. that's not what i wanted to do. i wanted to take you into the moment and this time countdown 1945, 116 days that changed the world. the key moments in those 116 days when truman is summoned to the white house he thinks that talk to president roosevelt and

he find out that roosevelt is dead and he's sworn in and stinson tells him i need to tell you about an immense project to create the most devastating weapon in first the first inkling that vice-president, now president truman has of the existence of the manhattan project and not just truman struggling and making the decisions and the scientists at lows al-- los alamos, and from tinian island, they don't know if the bomb, it's never been dropped from the plane, whether the aftershocks will knock them out of the sky. that's what i was trying to do when you and other people have said it's a page turner and a

thriller, i'm thrilled. >> chris, my father was a b-29 bomber in the army air force, and your father doesn't need to be in the air corps to like this book. real well done. you put us in the room where it happened on many occasions and that's just a masterful job. so well done there, chris. >> well, thank you. i mean, that's exactly what i was trying to do and there are so many dramatic moments. truman, he has a meeting with his war cabinet on june 18th, and henry stimpson, the secretary of war, george marshall, the general of the army, all of the top brass and they're discussing now that the nazis have surrendered on may 8th and how they're going to finish and win the war against the japanese. for about 45 minutes there's a long discussion of the invasion

of japan, how many troops it will take, how long it will prolong the war and hundreds of thousands of casualties on both sides. at the end, quite a junior man in the room assistant secretary of war named john mccloy ended up becoming a major figure in this century america, high commissioner of germany, a member of the commission and the world bank. he was a jo are bank and truman says nobody gets out of the room mccloy without telling what they think. and he asked henry stimpson his boss, he said i think we ought to have our heads examined if we don't at least discuss the bomb. that was literally in the war cabinet, they had been talking about the length of invasion and casualties and bloody it was going to be and nobody said, yeah, we have the bomb until he said it.

and it was dismissed it wasn't tested until july 18th just 21 days before the bomb was used in hiroshima. at that point back in june, truman viewed it as a science project. if it worked, right, if it didn't, we had to go ahead. >> so many historical moments you wrote about, chris. i wonder, i know you're a student of history, what is it that made you choose this particular moment? >> well, it's a funny story. i had the idea of doing exactly what i talked about, to take a key moment in history and try to put you in it. at the time they didn't know all of these things and they're faced with momentous challenges and like talking about reagan and what happened with arms control and gorbachev. i was fortunate enough to cover

summits. but having covered it in real life, the drama of they might ban all nuclear weapons and it all falls apart. and just as it failed was one thing, they went with the hopes and had this meeting and you know, it creates a tremendous suspense. so i wanted to do that, but i didn't have a subject. in february of 2019, it was the day that president trump was going to deliver his state of the union address and nancy pelosi, the speaker of the house invited several of the tv anchors over to her hideaway in the capitol, a hide away a lot of speakers have and tradition in washington that if the speaker and the president are opposing parties, true for a republican president, democratic speaker and vice versa, that the speaker will deliver a pre-buttal before the

president delivers the speech to tell you the reasons that it's bad. we're sitting in this room and nancy pelosi says this is the board of education. i don't think the other folks in the room knew, but i knew that the board of education had been sam rayburn's hideaway and this is where he would have people come after hours to plot strategy or to have a bourbon and vice-president truman was a regular there. april 12th after he finished providing solver the senate pan pelosi is telling this story. in this room truman was called by the white house and they wanted to talk to them and speaks to a white house official and says you need to get to the white house as quickly and quietly as possible. truman puts down the phone and case to the woman, about jesus christ and general jackson. which i had never heard before. [laughter] >> and i thought to myself, that's it. that's my story.

and that's the one i'm going to delve into and try to create a historical thrill eer and as it turned out 116 days from when he was alerted that roosevelt died and he's president, until the bomb is dropped on hiroshima. >> yeah, you know, your first book, chris, some writers report after their first book they just had a fabulous time and loved the experience and some found it miserable. how did you find writing your first book? >> yes. [laughter] >> you know, it is a very odd experience. it's a rollercoaster. there are times when you get a delicious fact. that's what really is so exciting is, you know, i didn't know that when truman, you know, i knew this story about jesus christ and general jackson so i thought that's a good start, but i didn't know when i started the project--

when truman gets there and he didn't know about the manhattan project. and juicy details like that. one of the details is the fact they had only tested the bomb once on july 21st-- or i'm sorry, july 16th and 21 days before they ended up using it. so, now they're at tinian island, which was the launchpad for the flight to hiroshima for 115 miles and somebody says, look, if we put this 10,000 pound bomb, which was very inappropriately called little boy, in the front of the plane and then we have to put a bunch of extra gas in the plane so he won't fall down, it will be more weight than we've ever carried and the plane might crash on takeoff. if there's an atom bo many that we could have an atomic

explosion at the u.s. base on tinian island and will destroy us and not the japanese. this is only two days before the mission. we can't take off with a live bomb. we're going to have to arm the bomb on the plane during the mission and they turned to the chief ordnance officer and said can you do that? he said i never have so i guess i'll learn. he sit in the plane on the ground in tinian island in sweltering heat, working on it and trying to do it and when they finally take off with an unarmed bomb safely on the way to hiroshima. he gets down cradles in the bomb way in little boy and has to take off some of the casing and rewiring, and they have to take off the safety plugs and put in the arming plugs, and it's only then, midway through the flight that they say, the bomb is actually armed and ready to go.

the details that, you know, is just-- and to go back to your question, so moments like that, it's a joy. and then there are times, and you're just trying to how do i tell the story and how do i put all of these disparate elements together? you think, man, this is hard work. my daughter is in publisher, and she's in publicing for ten years, not at my publisher, and no nepotism here. and i said, boy, writing is hard work. she rolled her eyes, gee, dad, i'm glad you discovered that. >> make a living. chris, did it surprise you? it did me, that truman didn't know the first thing about the building of this bomb. and then i've read, you've written that he and roosevelt had only spoke and couple of times during this fourth term of the presidency, but it just

seems almost unconceivable as a vice-president that you would not have been let into something as important as this, but i guess that was the case? >> yeah, a lot of people have asked me about that and it does seem incredible. he had been vice-president for 82 days and he had met privately, been in some big meeting and met privately with roosevelt twice this those 82 days. you've got to remember this is with a roosevelt's fourth term. it wasn't his first or second vice-president. he had gotten pretty good at ignoring vice-presidents. and he probably thought vice-presidents come and go, i've got my work cabinet and to make the decisions and he had sort of shouldn'ted off tr-- shunted truman off sot sidement and i told you about stimpson takes him aside and i'm going

to tell you about this project. i'm going to give you time to settle in and come back. april 25th, 13 days later he comes into the oval office to brief president trumatruman, no settled in not quite two weeks. and meanwhile, the commander of the manhattan project is snuck in through underground tunnels and one of the reasons was, ned' given this a lot of thought at the pentagon, if the two come in through the front door together. people are going to wonder, what are groves, who had built the pentagon, he was the big mission man, what's groves and stimpson were doing together. he snuck in and they gave truman a detailed document to read to explain the and mant project in historical and technical detail and truman complained. he said i don't like reading long documents like this and

groves said, mr. president, it's-- we can't say it any more briefly if or suscinctly, it's a complicated project. that's how out of touch it was, in the ebbed the time when it counted, he knew he had mastered all of it. >> another remarkable fact i found from reading your book, chris, is 125,000 people, americans, working on this manhattan project and not a word gets out. that's amazing. >> well, you're exactly right. it's one of the things that astonished me, too. you know, people say to me, what was it you covered trump and the ups and downs and ins and outs in washington today. you know, what was it like writing about this book? >> i said one of the things i enjoyed the most, it has absolutely nothing to do with

donald trump. it it's not a knock on the president, it took me away from the stuff we're in and it goes precisely to your point. you're right, they had been working on this project for almost two plus years and 125,000 people at oak ridge, tennessee, uranium enrichment, los alamos. flight krewson a -- crews and know the a work leaks out. if you had 125,000 people working on a secret project working on apple pie, there would be somebody with a tweet. the country was a time everybody was more unified to win the war against the nazis and the japanese. boy could we use that now.

>> you're not kidding. another thing, a fascinating thing about the way you wrote the book and of course, you covered major, major-- you're involved in the project from truman to groves, and oppenheimer and then you also chose to focus in on a loose system and-- tamara. you know, and tell us, tell the listeners about those two, because i thought it was a great juxtaposition throughout the book. >> well, one of the things that we wanted to do with this book is-- i very much wanted, you know, it's not just to be on the top level because of course, the war wasn't just on the top level of the scientists. it was engaged with all of america and one of the stories i wanted to tell was the home front and we found -- you know,

there are websites and where, you know, there is commentary about various people and mae amazingly we found two people who are still alive and all of the other players are gone. ruth was a 19-year-old girl and volunteered to work at oak ridge, at the uranium enrichment facility. she didn't know what it was. she now was a big factory and giant machines that the women, it was a dinner time. they were called the girls and they basically had a bunch of knobs they had to keep the meter in the right place and not go into the red. they had no idea. they said keep the meter in the red and you'll help the war. >> and they didn't know. it was plutonium to fuel the atom bomb. what made the story interesting, not just that he was in the home front, but she

had a boyfriend, later her husband, lawrence huddleston in europe had been a medic and survived the fighting. may 8th the war ends, nazis surrender and a lot of people, she's delighted because her boyfriend had gotten through this and she's terrified he's not going to come home the expectation he's going to be shipped to a bloodier conflict in japan. what she didn't realize and what was kind of a dramatic irony of this, she is creating or helping create the weapon that if it is used could save her boyfriend's life. and that's exactly what happened. high ddeki timora-- as you would know, there in history,there are plot lines you would never dream of inventing.

she was a 10-year-old girl and came from a wealthy family in hiroshima and like a lot of families all throughout the country, they didn't have any expectation of an atom bomb, but they expected to be bombed. they hadn't been bombed at all. so, the parents would send their children out to the countryside so that if there were a bombing, they'd be safe. they went hideko, her parents did, what they thought was a school and ended up being a work camp, and she was a willful 10-year-old hated it. she couldn't send a letter home because the school sensored it, because a lot of students were telling their parents get me out of here. so she snuck into the town mailed a letter to the local post office get me out of here. her mother shows up august 4th to rescue her and she was thrilled and thank you, mom. and the mother says, hideko,

look, there's a lot of fear in the cities, let's stay out here in the countryside for a few days and she said, absolutely not. i want to go home. so she spend the night and go home on august 5th of course, that means that they are in hiroshima when the bomb is dropped on august 6th. >> amazing and in fact, chris, i had a great chance to see a clip of you and hideko going into the smithsonian to see the presence of that massive enola gay right there in front of her. and what a moment that must have been. >> it's a thing you would never have imagined. we did a documentary for fox news for anybody out there, i assume a lot of you subscribe to fox nation. countdown 1945 like the book. and i said to her, we have just talked on the phone up to that point, i said would you

consider coming to washington for an interview. and she said i will under one condition. what's that? i want to go see the enola gay. i would never have dreamt or asked her to do something like that. she wanted to do it. we drove out one day and got permission to go there before the museum opened and we went to see the enola gay and i didn't know what her reaction would be and she was kind of stunned. as you well know from your dad and b-29's, they're enormous, really big planes, super fortress, it was called, and big bright silver, all shiny and we walked up to it and she was just taking it in and i said, do you feel anger? and she said no, i just feel grief, i feel deeply grief-stricken and she thought for a while and she said i want to say a prayer for peace with

i she did and i think that he's an old man, that the plane is an old man and i think he needs to leave this museum and go to sleep which i thought was interesting and she went sianara and that was that. and i think on some level it provided some closure. >> yeah, that was such a great moment, chris. let's go back to truman for a second. and i know it's not easy, but summarize for me the dilemma that truman faced with the dropping of the bomb, his rationale because as you described so well in your book. it was going a save a lot of lives, but take a lot of lives as well. >> i sense there were a couple of points i was going to make and obviously, this was been one of the great moral questions for the last 75 years, this of course, is the summer, the 75th anniversary of all of the events and dropping

of the bombs on hiroshima. should we have dropped the bomb or not? i guess i hadn't really studied at it and thought about it, it wasn't a choice between dropping the bomb, or doing nothing. it was a choice between dropping the bomb and invading-- or invading, and if we invaded, as i said, if the top experts, general marshall, secretary of war simpson, the people at the pentagon said in 45. you can expect the war to go on at least a year and a half to the end of 1946, and you can expect japanese casualties and half a million of american casualties. as they got closer and closer to the japanese homeland, instead of the ders losing spirit, they got more.

they went okinawa. they ended up killing 100,000 japanese. none of them surrendered of the 20,000, many committed suicide and many were taken prison, they didn't surrender. they knew they were going to have a terrible battle on their hands if they did invade. some people say, okay, but they would have surrendered anyway to which my response is, we dropped the bomb on hiroshima august 6th and the japanese military government does not surrender for three days so the u.s. drops a second bomb on nagasaki and the japanese military government still does not surrender, only then that emperor hirohito decides to go over the japanese government and directly to the people and he gets on the radio and literally the first time the vast majority of japanese have ever heard the voice of their

emperor and he basically says, we have to surrender. and that was it. but it took two bombs and an emperor going over the heads of the government to get the japanese to surrender. you know, i think one issue for truman and i don't know that any other president would have made any other decision. if you had invaded and if you had sent thousands or hundreds of thousands of americans to their death or to grievous injury and later it were to come out that you had the as the president you had access it a weapon that conceivably could have ended the war in a flash and you had said i'm not going to use it. i don't know that any president could have faced that or would have wanted to face that. ...

one of the ways it feels like you take the reader right into the movement, the material you got was just excellent, and i wonder what was your core source, particularly as a relates to trump? >> i wonder if you're doing this as a commercial. [laughing] after i read all of the history, and there's a lot of history out there that are very, very good, you want more. where did i go? i went to the truman library and independence, missouri, and i spent a few days there with an archivist, going to these. the treasure trove was the diaries.

because i often think to myself as i covered reagan in the '80s as i covered, covered not as good as i spent six years and white house score but as i cover trump now, what are they thinking at that moment? what's going on in the mind? that the press release but what's going on? now we have access to reagan's diaries and with a much better sense of that. truman's diaries were terrific. he was first of all a very good diary keeper as was president reagan and also a very good writer as was reagan. he said a lot of things in those diaries that give you the inner conversation. one of the segments i found interesting is, and it's different than most people's perception of truman because he is famously thought of as this very decisive man, the buck stops here. he made a decision and he never look back on it. he never looked back on this. it always defended and said i

would do it again. but as is making the decision in germany at a summit conference with churchill and stalin in july of the 45, he was really struggling with this decision turkey was having trouble sleeping at night. he complained of fierce headaches which he had whenever he was under stress in his career. in his diary he keeps talking about this terrible weapon and he describes it in apocalyptic terms. he describes it as the fire destruction prophecy in the bible. he made the decision and as i said he never looked back but this was an enormous decision and he gave it all of the weight and all of the inner turmoil and struggling how to think he should have. he wrestled with it. >> at job to be a president. robert oppenheimer. talk to us about him.

i'm not sure there's been extensive books written about him. what a man. i think as you describe him, a renaissance figure at a genius really. >> absolutely. i think spoke a half a dozen languages, learned sanskrit so we can read buddhist writings. by the leslie brilliant as a physicist, but also, and people at question about whether he would have any executive skills at all, became a very skilled administrator. he was the scientific director at los alamos, and one of the things he had to juggle was he had general groves who i mentioned before, this bulldozer of a man and a military man and then he had all of these frankly prima donna scientists who rebelled at the idea of deadlines and military order. he kind of had to keep both of those things going. we talked about second books. another one of these great

nuggets in the book is after the bombing and after the war ends, truman never looks back on it. he's asked about it for the rest of his life and he keeps saying i had to make the decision. it ended the war and if i had to make that call i would do it again. all of the people on the flight crew said the same thing. paul tibbetts, all of them. it ended the war. we are military men and this was the way to defeat the enemy. the people who did have second thoughts with the scientists. albert einstein really started the whole manhattan project in 1939 when he writes a letter to roosevelt, and what his concern is in the concern of a lot of the german refugees left nazi germany and are now in the west either in england or in the u.s., they were concerned, the nazis were going to get the atomic weapon for the u.s. did, and god forbid that adolf hitler had a monopoly on the most, the

first true weapon of mass destruction. in any case, so about a month after the explosion, oppenheimer comes to the white house and he sits down with treatment, and by this time he is just wracked with second thoughts. he says, mr. president, i have these terrible regrets. i feel i have blood on my hand. truman says don't worry about it, i gave the order, i have got the on my hands. they finished the conversation. oppenheimer leaves and truman says to his staff, i never want to see that son of a bitch in this office ever again. >> that such a moment. you also tell a story in the book that i have not heard before. i want you to tell the whole story, in part about the trilogy. and it's with respect to this level william with the "new york times." the opportunity as he had in

this project and how all that turned out. >> well again, this is the joy here to talk about how good days and bad days writing. this was a very good day. william leonard lawrence was a science reporter and a very distinguished science reporter for the "new york times." he had won a pulitzer prize with the book of other people, i think and 37 for writing an article on the scientific project. groves, this military man, , but he also thinks to himself, this is going to be if it all works out an immense story and want the story told right. this is another example of the difference between the unity of that time and what we have today. so this military general walks into the "new york times" and goes to see the editor andy says, i would like, because he knows about lawrence, i would

like to get william lawrence and i would like you to detaching and i would like him to basically disappear off the face of the earth, and i wanted to go inside, he's going to get the greatest story of all -- can't remember, i don't you told the editor what the story was, i'm almost sure he didn't, nor lawrence but he basically, and the editor said okay. can you imagine that did todayt the general went to the editor of the times? lawrence, he is told, he's basically told you have the greatest root of all time but you're not come to be able to tell it entail we tell you you can. of course a news man worth of sin would rebel at that but the idea of this great story, he was intrigued so we did it. he then was brought inside and hung out at the los alamos any part of it all, and he wasn't there at alamogordo when with t

of the bomb on july 16. he had a genius, and with quote to great lengths from some of the dispatches he wrote, none of which appeared until after the bomb exploded and truman announced the whole project to the world, but his writing was fantastic and he came up with the phrase maybe you've heard of it before, the atomic age. that was written by william lawrence. so he is there for all of the testing, and i wish my writing were as good as williams is but you get to read some of his in the book. then he is brought to the ibis was there with the crew. he's not allowed on the first flight because it's obviously the first flight and they just had 12 men and they were not going to spare an extra seat but he does in that going on the second play, the nagasaki flight so he is there and describes as a first-person witness the detonation of the second atomic

bomb in warfare, and he's a great character and it's a delight to read -- think about,, how do you describe the first atomic bomb blast? how would you describe the tasks? having to describe scene and atomic bomb take out the city? he doesn't masterfully. >> sure does. the surprising thing, it's almost like a postscript that you wrote about, chris, was that i guess there was a movement several years later to pull the pulitzer prize from him and the "new york times" because of the arrangement that had been made at the time. i thought, well, i would propose that but it's an interesting story. >> yeah, because what it happened was during that time that he was behind the scenes he was on the government payroll and so, at again, it was just a different sort of relationship in terms of people, , the media,

the country. it was much more of the since we're all in this together. that obviously has ended. at a certain point i think in the '50s, maybe it was the '60s they went to the times and said look, he was basically writing government press releases. he should get back the pulitzer prize at times and william lawrence did not. >> and rightly so i think. there's a bit player that you mention i think maybe only once but just leapt off the pages at me because i did know this as a piece of history with his fellow, a german that was a scientist on the manhattan project, actually turned out to be a russian spy. can you tell that story? >> yeah. just real quickly. one of the big issues for churchill and truman, because the british and u.s. have been involved in this all along together, roosevelt and

churchill and no treatment. so when the bomb explodes, truman gets work and churchill gets worked almost at the same time of the things they are discussing is when do we tell stalin? stalin doesn't know anything about this project, or so they think. just before the conference ends, and the decision is look, we don't want to tell him to early and we don't want to count too much but if we don't own anything in where supposedly allies come he's going to reset it and is going to create even more problems. let me tell you, when they are in potsdam there are already major problems between russia on the one side and the u.s. and britain on other because of course russian has swept in from the east and taken over most of eastern europe and they will not give it up. late in the conference after one of the sessions, truman goes over to stalin to tell them about it. he basically, he doesn't even

brings transmitter. he uses the russian translator, the translators stolid and trip by themselves and truman says, i just want to let you know that we have an enormous, indescribably powerful weapon that we have developed. stalin says something basically like i hope you put to good use with the enemy, and that's it. and then he turns away. truman is dumbfounded. he doesn't ask a question? churchill comes up to him and says, because he wasn't there but he could see it's a very short conversation. what happened? he said i don't know, i told him and he didn't seem that interested. even true men's russian translator, not the russian but the american who served as a translator, is wondering whether the translator had translated properly. well, the story, the truth is that stalin was interested, he just wasn't surprised because exactly as you say, there was this german scientist who had

become a refugee, had come to britain, ended up in the united states but he'd been a member of the german communist party because he saw the communist party as the only force inside germany that was resistant to hitler. now, he leads and is in the united states, and because he was a brilliant scientist he's working on the manhattan project but his loyalty is still the comment isn't so he gets a courier named raymond all kinds of information which goes back to the russians, and the postscript to the entire story is, so later that night stalin and molotov, the foreign minister, in-depth back in the russian compound together and somebody overhears and having a conversation. they are discussing the fact that treatment has now told him they got the bomb and the bomb works, and stalin says can i guess we need to get going. a historian would later say that

at 7:25 p.m. on that night is when the nuclear arms race between russia and the u.s. officially began. >> what a moment, what a moment. well, chris, do you have another book in you? it seems like you must because it seems like you would enjoy do this and it's turned out to be a best-selling book. what's your next one? have you already got one in my? >> one of the thoughts i had was to not only do all the things i said, create a historical thriller, but to be able to replicate it. when i came up with the compound idea come instead of telling it as just history but we will count down the days, i thought if you do "countdown 1945" you could do countdown whatever. i have a couple ideas. i haven't settled on one yet but i think, as a set writing a history book, there are ups and

downs, highs and lows. but i think there are enough ops. one of them and i'm not just -- getting a chance to talk to about the book, that there would be another countdown. >> well, i can't wait to read it, chris. you haven't whole nother career ahead of you. just wonderful to see the work you have done and thanks so much for joining us today. absolutely best of luck as you do this book tour virtually around the world. >> yes. you know, the virus is going to end and and i will be out of of my favorite places of the world, the reagan library as you know i've been there many times, colluding with mrs. reagan when she was still alive, and i look forward to coming in talking to all you folks in person. >> thanks, chris. you are welcome anytime. >> thank you for joining us in today's virtual programming event. we hope this conversation has inspired you to show which along with your family and friends and that you join us again for the

upcoming event. >> let me offer listenable and about america. all great change in america begins at the dinner table. so tomorrow night in the kitchen, i hope the talking begins, and children, if your parents have been teaching you what it means to be an american, let them know and nail them on it. that would be a very american thing to do. >> the senate returns today at noon eastern to continue debate on overriding the president's veto of the defense programs and policy do. at 1 p.m. people vote to limit debate. if it passes it will be up to 30 more hours of debate. they didn't have time agreement setting up a potential final vote on saturday. veto override requires two-thirds majority of those present and voting. none of president trump's nine peters has been successfully overwritten. the last successful override was in september 2016 on legislation vetoed by president obama allowing 9/11