to spend time with y you and be interviewed by you purdah have the highest respect for all of the work you're doing. and i always enjoy doing things with the council. thank you for incredibly good questions. >> thank you. >> you are watching cspan2, your unfiltered view of government. cspan2 is treated by america's cablevision television company were brought to by these television companies who provide cspan2 to viewers as a public service. >> we w are back with julia kaufman was codirector and senior policy researcher for the iran american educator panel. juliee is here to discuss iran's recent study on how the pandemic is impacting both teaching and learning in america's elementary and secondary schools. julia good morning. >> think it's good to be

here. >> host: first paul tells about the study. who did you talk to maria trying to find out? >> guest: so our research on the covet impacts back in the spring when schools close their doors. we use our iran american educator panel which is national represented as a k-12 public school teachers and school leaders schools and classroom of the pandemic. so we surveyed teachers and school leaders in may, we surveyed them again in october. we asked them what kind of instructional approaches their schools are using for are they remote? are they in person? what percentage of the students have you been able to contact? what are completing their assignments? what a student achievement look like customer what your needs? we also ask teachers about how they arew feeling. their stress, how many hours they are working, concerned about burnout and leaving the

profession. >> host: one of the things that caughtt me in the report is for you and your co-author at the sentence, our findings paint an alarming picture of how the 2020 -- 2021 school year is unfolding. what you mean by that sentence? >> guest: we saw a lot of evidence that really concerned us we got our survey results back. so evidence in the spring and fall, that students are not getting all of the curriculum content and all the instruction they have would have received in a typical school year. they're not attending school as regular as they normally would. another thing that concerned us was that curriculum coverage, average daily attendance look worse and look at teachers reports with higher poverty and more students of color must look at teachers are teaching remotely. which is a large percentage of

schools right now. and then, a big final concern was at teachers reported working more hours they typically would. and really high percentages were reporting concerns about burnout. and the likelihood of leaving the profession. all of these things became a pretty grim picture for us. spoons were there any differences between the elementary school the secondary schools? over the findings pretty uniform across all this. >> guest: findings weren't uniform. there were a number of differences between elementary schools and secondary schools forolel elementary schools seemo be doing a little bit better with assignment completion. with students coming to school. on the other hand, there are some concerns that we havet about elementary schools because we know those children are smaller, they are remote they are probably greater teacher needs.

that played out in our survey results that teachers in elementary schools report a lot of needs to support the student students. probably because those students are smaller and harder to connect with when you're doing things remotely. sue went and did your study deal with both public and private schools?e forward you look at one of the other? >> guest: we are public focus on k-12 public not private for the survey. student must look at some of the key findings you found in your study. so here's some of the key findings and want you to talk about this. so most schools are entirely or partially remote education. the students were less prepared to participate in grade level work. and teachers were less able to contact students. and there's less accountability. before going talk about those three things before go further.

>> guest: when we asked school leaders and teachers whether their schools more remote or whether they were in person, or whether they were somewhere in between, so a hybrid model. about 80% reported that their schools were at least partially remote. in the third holy remote may never not getting any in-person instruction at all. ours data from the study as well as other sources indicated that schools with higher poverty of more students or color art more disproportionally remote?on why does that matter? it matters because teachers reported much greater need students are learning remotely. lower@completion. students from a high poverty school students of color are probably not getting their assignments done not to mention the compounding problems of being in high

poverty schools. and probably having lower assignment completion to begin with. you also asked me to it talk a little bit about students being less prepared for grade level work. we asked teachers how prepared i students? 66% reported that the majority of the students were less prepared during the 2021 school year relative to this time last year. 27% indicated their students were significantly less s prepared. and we sow that teachers teachers in those high poverty schools again, about twice as likely to see the students were significantly less prepared than lastd year. and as far as teachers at not being able to contact students, on average teachers reported being able to contact roughly four out of every five students. those percentages were much worse in the spring. but now in the fall there are stew still it's falling through theud crooks. we also asked teachers whether they were assigning letter

grades to students this year. back in the spring, only about roughly 30% of teachers said they were assigning letter grades. now in thehe fall, about 60% said they are assigning letter grade grades. that is a signal that instruction may not be as rigorous. there are lots of reeds to not assign letter grades right now and students are remote. but they also provide some accountability. that space of the slightly less accountability this year. >> host: looks look at more of the key findings from your report. which you also found that teacher morale was low, with increased burnout. they were continue problem accessing digital devices and the internet. and teachers who are providing virtual learning need more support. talk a little bit more about those findings. >> guest: teacher morale right now is a real concern. because teachers leave the profession and greater numbers towards the end of this clear, school districts are going to

have a lot on their play. not only learning lots but bringing more teachers back to their schools. we asked teachers in the spring weather burnout was a concern for them about 25% said it was a major concern. we asked them again in the fall, and 57% said it was a major concern. that his way up from the spring. we also see teachers dealing with stress are higher. their enthusiasm for the profession is lower and it would be in a typical school year. in the most concerning thing us as a may ask you teachers likely to leave the profession? about 7% of teachers that they're likely to leave the profession before covid and likely now. that's roughly on par with the typical teacher attrition rate. within their 17% of teachers who said i wasn't likely to lead the profession before covid-19 but i'm likely to now. thatla is a pretty large number of teachers that could be leaving schools by the end of this year.

>> you also asked about continued problems accessing digital devices and the interne internet. principles and remote schools, schools that are remote only report a higher proportion of students with access to digital devices and internet. that is a good. that principles and remote only sending sent only 86% of theirha students have an adequate internet connection at home. this 14% of students who are totally remote and don't have an adequate internet connection, we are not sure how they are connecting with their teachers. how they are learning at the same level of those have internet connection and connect from home. >> would like to remind our viewers they can take part in this conversation pretty once again were going to open up special winds because we want to hear from special people for this conversation. so first up our first line is going to be for parents. parents what you sing with their children and the teachers there working with? parents are light is going to

be (202)748-8000. most teachers, not only the teachers but administrators but we want to know it you're going through. so educators, educators your light is going to be (202)748-8001. if you don't volunteer either one of those categories, and you want to jump in inuit your line is going to be (202)748-8002. 8000 for parents, 8001 for educators. everyone else to 027-48-8002. remember you can always text at (202)748-8003. and we are always on social media t on twitter and @cspanwj and on facebook at facebook.com/c-span parts let's go to our phone lines and let's talk to kyle. who is calling from buffalo, new york. kyle is an educator. kyle good morning. >> kyler there?

i think we lost kyle put let's go to steve who is calling from muller place new york. morning.d >> caller: i teach in a middle school and i teach most of my classes live. i teach one online class remote. i wish to go back to all remote i'm worried about getting the covid. we've had about five teachers out. and about 100 students in quarantine because the teacher has covid, the kids go out. it is a big mess. i just wish this whole vaccine would come in soon and we could get back to normal. also i just wanted to mention teachers also depend on light coaching, doing things after school to earn a little extra money to make ends meet. there is no money for that this year. that might be a nether reason why teachers are thinking of leaving the profession. sue and go ahead and respond julia.

>> guest: i think steve what you are pointing out about teaching right now, it is just a tough thing to t be doing. i also worry about the fact that teachers do not have those afterschool options for getting additional money. i hope that whatpe happens now is schools and got money through the stimulus package. but they used to implement as many safety precautions as possible to make teachers feel a little more comfortable in schools. there are covid testing programs happening now or schools are piloting things like buy annex now tests to be able to test students with a walk in the door. they have us nipple entrance nipple you can give them a test or if they just have a cold and not coronavirus. so i am hoping all of those things really get implemented more and more in schools teachers feel more comfortable goingin to school. and teaching in person as well

as parents and families. >> host: juliet q we have a question from our social mediawh followers who once you know what impacted the last high-speed broadband in rural areas have on those students so affected? >> guest: could you repeat that will more time free to make sure i got that question? spew it what impacted the lack of high-speed broadband in rural areas have on students who did not have high-speed broadband? >> guest: their huge proportions of students that do not have that high axis broadband. not only rural areas but pockets in urban areas are students do not have access. as we found in our study, when you don't have access to the internet, you are not going to get assignments completed as readily as students who do. sumi asked teachers, what portion of their students had access to internet we asked about assignment completion be found those two results were correlated predestinate surprising right? if you cannot connect to the

internet you not only don't have access but then you also don't not readily access your teachers. for a lot of reasons why bet broadband connection is really important. it is to expanding broadband access. which is great news not only for schools, but for lots of other reasons. for businesses, for workers trying to find employment, a kinds ofho things. >> host: let's talk to jordan who's calling from north carolina. jordan good morning. >> good morning how are you guy guys? >> host: go-ahead jordan. >> caller: alright, so, so i note this pandemic is going on. but i want to know how julia's about kids going back to school we should be wait until after the pandemic is over.

>> guest: jordan to just say that a little bit more you are breaking up i'm not try got your whole question. >> caller: i said i know that this pandemic is still going on, but how do you feel when this is all over with, do you feel like kids should go back to school? >> guest: well, i think kids should be able to go back to school when their parents feel safe doing so. when schools feel safe doingsc so. i think one of the issues is we haven't had really clear guidance on the exact metrics that are necessary for schools to gogo back. so what we see across the united states is school and districts are adopting all kinds of metrics for determining that. as long as you have metrics and you consulted with experts that is a good thing. i think in general we could have some really clear national guidance on when it feel safe enough to go back to school. that would feel useful.

again, safety precautions are necessary but not only just covid testing, but all kinds of layered mitigation. making sure students are our masks. even havingg temperature checks at the beginning of the day. all kinds of things to make sure that everyone feel safe. not jordan if you are asked about when the covid pandemic is over, when we have a reasonable number of people vaccinated does it feel like going back to school will make sense? i think, speaking as a parent i am hoping so. not everyone is headed back to school. i think that in person connection is just vital for children, for their families, making sure that learning happens. but also to provide that social and emotional support. so hoping back to school those smoothly when we are talk but the next school year. >> host: as a parent julia, i completely agree with you there. we have another question for

one of her social media followers was a follow up on that question of when kids go back to school. so this followers says working and learning i am lucky as our product is used now more than it has ever been. that said, my question is, if teachers will implement long term changes, especially far more online learning or revert to try it intrude methods of the past but is there anything about this virtual or online learning that should t go forward when students actually returned to school? >> guest: that is a great question. i certainly hope we can retain some of the good things. they're not a lot of great things about learning remotely. but one good thing, i think for me as a parent and we've heard this from other people is that i think a lot of schools have put in place really clear information about grades. so when i go to my kids go i have a grading dashboard when i can see exactly how my child is doing. i have a much better handle on

how they are doing now than i ever did before because of all of these remote classroom sediment put in place for me to it really understand how my kids are doing. and so, i sure hope that schools would not been doing that before can retain that. i think there is lots of evidence through history that schools tend to revert to what is comfortable, to what is traditional. but more and more there are amazing and innovative platforms and online games and ways that students aren't learning, and that are being taken advantage of right now. but he hoped really continue, keep going r on. i think in person learning is so important but there are lots of innovative ways children could be learning right now and pass the pandemic through digital devices and through soup games and such. : : to our phone lines and talk to l

>> and managed to vote for hillary theyey wanted to punish her from benghazi or whatever. look who is getting punished now. so can you say. whether you didn't want to protect her kids and putting in hillary, he wanted to take a chance on donald trump. now everybody has hungry us in a work half of the people in uterica do not know this but they can make a semi automatic weapon and automatic weapon. so i think we're getting what we deserve. i know what to say about american . you guys had a chance to take care of your own and you took a chance. you roll the dice and that's what you gotta give you can sell. i think the lines in florida and texas and and even in california, people are hungry. this is what you've always wanted. next time, wake up. >> go ahead and respond that if

you want to julia . julia: i'm not sure if that was directed to me a woman or what. but i will say are lots of women the vote politically for someone other than trump. i also think the incoming biden administration in all seriousness, i think that they are talking about putting more money into schools and i am hoping that is the case. i think right now the current , imulus, $900 billion is about 56 million i think that is being set aside for the schools and maybe a little us and that's . for the k-12 schools. i think it is not really going to beal enough to fight on the budget problems the schools in the district are going to have. i don't think it's going to be enough because of the state, a lot of that money in the stimulus package. that's not going directly to the state in the state to get to the schools to fill all the state budget was that will be coming

up. so i am hoping the more money gets into the schools because right now, they really needed in the going to really needed next year as well. host: since were bringing up the topic, right now there is $82 billion for the schools and colleges and the covid-19re relf bill and he talked about here in washington. you think it's an adequate onamount of money for schools ad colleges in that covid-19 relief bill. julia: as an education researcher, i want to see education main supported as much as possible. i think it is our future. i think there are lots of children falling to the cracks right now. and i think right now especially, we also need those to be able to commit entered connect. i'm not sure the right now given $7 billion for broadband access is going to get those kids connected right now. because the schools are still promote . some really concerned about that. i'm really concerned about the coming here.

i think that tutoring has been one thing that's been addressed. i think it partners with community organizations to put in the robust tutoring support. there's really no enough money and that stimulus package to do something like that and get tutoring for that all students and needed in the coming years. so there are lots of reasons why more money would be good. host: let's go back line and let's talk to michael was calling from evans dale, iowa. michael good morning. guest: good morning. it is the first time call for me. i'm really excited about being on. and my. question is i have any experience reading buddy. if you're familiar with that program. it's great program. here locally, marie tyree from headstart program. right now there's limited things that we can do they really

prefer obviously not to have us coming in from outside. i thought i was going to be involved in a viral program that because of complications, that did not work. what i am asking is how can we help. they're obviously a lot of people with experience but myself. and i really want to help. what is the best way, what are my options for us to help out with the readingng programs. i was specializing in the first graders. but i understand after a study here, that was the area that was suffering the most. in a real concern. i have no children of my own. i want to do this is a concerned

citizen. how can i help. julia: i wish there were so any more people like you. if because right now, children need more help than ever. i think the challenge right now is that schools are just drinking through a fire hose and they do not have normally set up all the programs that are necessary to support the children. i do know right now the math is area we know there is even more flirting loss than writing. that might be because parents are not as able to help their children with math. i know my children are 14 years old and 11 years old. i want to help them with napa sometimes i need a little primer to help my kids with their homework. i was trying to be an english teacher and lots of people accountable reading . think children need help in both of those areas . think what's really important is to do a

google search in the area and see what community organizations might be offering to drink . that would first thing that i would do. and i would connect with the schools. connect withk themm and asked them, are there tutoring programs are now. can i help. i do think there are lots of community organizations are also partnering with the schools . so i think there's lots of options out there. if you cannot find an option in your area, and if you have it in you. i would say try to find a group of people that you can work with and maybe setup up a tutoring program. i know that my not be within a lot ofe' people's reach but that is something that we are sing in a lot of communities, amazing work happening in some real grassroots work to help the children. i'm so glad that you are willing to help. host: julia, we have a comment, read the comment and follow-up with a question. this person texted in, open all k-12 schools immediately. teachers should be no different

than other essential workers . the health of our children is suffering. my question to you julia, do we know our teachers fall on the vaccination schedule . and a lot of people want to see the k-12 schools open at least by the fall. but i'm not heard any teachers be put on that private tours nation list for the vaccine. speech of there's d definitely talk the teachers getting the vaccine. at the same time is essential workers. i think in any states, let's estate choice. i do think it is an important group of people after the healthcare workers and after people in nursing homes. i think the teachers are one of the groups being targeted in any states and i agree, it is really important to get this teachers vaccinated.o if they can get back to school. and also, i think the audit next, things like testing,

covid-19 testing could be distributed to the staff so the staff feel more comfortable. but also the students. lots of reasons why we cannot force the teachers back to school until they have a safe place to go for it is so looking at all of the things about the contacts like the covid-19 infection rate. if the safety precautions the schools are putting into place. and down the road, looking at vaccinations, those are all things that can help the teachers get back to school and the students back to school. host: let's collect your phone lines and let's talk to god was calling from denver, colorado. cliff, is an educator. good morning. guest: i just have a couple of comments. it and i would like to have response from your educational researcher regarding technology and itss acceleration in the classroom. teachers may be having and being replaced by technology. at leaste there being a great

reduction in the need for teachers regarding and being replaced by technology. in one other comment i have is about teachers and their resistance towards taking the vaccine. i am wondering if any of the researchers regards hesitance on receiving the vaccine. i'll take her comments and responses there. thank you very much. julia: right and thank you. the first about technology taking over. i actually think that the pandemic has drivens home a a opposite. then in person instruction is really important. research suggests that when kids are totally remote, it is not enough. they need that inn person connection. and of course once they are totally remote, they still have a teacher. they're connecting with them at a distance for the most part.

so do think the technology can support teaching in a lot of ways. we justal talked about some of e innovations that technology can bring but i thinknk there is no substitute for a great teacher. and as far as your second question which i believe was about the vaccine and maybe could repeat that question will more time to make sure that i got it. host: i think about it. go ahead julia. julia: i do think that there is a lot of hesitancy for people to take a vaccine. i am hoping that as more and more people get a vaccine, it bolsters theci confidence. and that teachers feel more confident getting the vaccine because i think the more people that have that vaccine and can feel safe going back into the classroom, the better it is for

everybody. sue and the student stephanie who was calling from new york new york. and she is an educator as well. stephanie, good morning . guest: good morning and happy new year to you both. i am currently in full disclosure, i fully remote teacher because of health combinations. i am working fully remote teaching and live streaming daily. at least 8:00 o'clock in the morning until carpet. and then of course, there is the general teacher preparation time for the next answer for. but my is that when this began, there was all of this conversation about teachers, your amazing and wonderful. cannot believe you guys did this. i'm sorry i'll never argue with again. now it is mask up and do what you need to do for the economy and for the children. problem is that we give 150 percent to our children. at our own expense and out of

our own pockets and the expense of our families we do it because we love what we do. i love the children that i serve. sue and putes ahead julia. julia: every time i talk to teachers not been talking to them more and morelk lately. i am just blown over by the children. to the thank teachers are doing all they can. i agree with you that in cases where there is a high covid-19 infection rate in the schools, there is no way to feel safe going into the school unless there are lots of safety measures in place and unless you feel comfortable doing that . i would just say to this teacher tand all teachers with pain promote that there are a lot of people and i do appreciate all the hard work that you're doing and i think there's a lot going on remotely that is right for

kids. my kids are getting a great instruction from the teachers online. i think there's a limit to what the teachers can do remotely. there's only so much they can do. we have evidence that the working and working more hours than ever. there's only so much that they can do to do the hands-on activities in the activities that allow you to talk to other kids in newal project. there's lots to those those are the activities that the kids really can learn a lot from. so they're missing that piece and they're not necessarily is motivated. so in this teachers are teaching remote, i think there is a lot to can do to support the kids now. but hoping that we can all go back to schoolk soon. host: plus talk to roy who was callingom from park rapids minnesota and also an educator per unit. guest: good morning. i have taught three states. i taught with a bachelors for a while. but i went back into my masters

and cannot even get a job. the run into a lot of local politics in which,ch there is jt a fear off influence as well. anyway, my point is that the learning systems have been so good and a bunch school systems all over in three different states to throw away dvd learning. and then when they have done is also thrown away their libraries and then put in microwave in the classroom spring so i don't have a lot of something for the schools. i'm saying an administrative foolishness about all of this. there's really good ways to do things are needed in just my observations. i would like to hear from julie on this .e thank you for hearing me out. julia: i am not sure what dvd learning means but i do think there are a lot of choices that are delegated to the schools that the schools have to make on their own. in some states are doing a lot

more to support the schools in other states . i think states in particular really need to be sporty school right now because there is only so much that schools can be doing to support the kids. there's only so far that they can go. right now we know that lots of kids are at home, not showing up for school. then when we are in the middle of the pandemic is really hard to search all those children's down find them and bring them back to school. there's lots of other school supports that schools themselves needs right n now. and i think that in some states there's a a lot of direction and support from the schools. and a lot of the direction is a has been delegated to the districts themselves . there in the really tough place right now. try to make decisions for their children. withoutt very much funding to do so. i think it's going to change with the stimulus coming through. i'm hoping that changes so that

the schools can do more, can figure out better to support the kids remotely and the safety precautions put in place. host: before we run out of time, ask john come up with any recommendations for the school systems and for the rest of this school year. and for the beginning of the new school year. julia: yes. we really focused on this before the stimulus came out. the infusion of funding to address multiple needs but particularly to target remote instruction. we know that those kids there engaged are often in high poverty schools. often students of color. ofis putting more money into the tschools to support remote instruction in getting this kids digital devices and getting those kids broadband. that is really important right now and also just getting safety precautions in place. in including covid-19 testing to make sure that the teachers and

students feel safe. the other piece that we recommend is trying to get more data so we really know what is going on especially for data those academic interventions that might curb the learning plots . might support the students right now . we have some evidence about things that have worked in the past. but right now things that could work remotely, like to drink we do have some evidence that support students but we need more evidence. we need to see tutoring programs that in the place and see that helping the students catch up and we also need to know more about teachers leave for any her temp teacher today, they have a lot of critical needs. we need to support them. so can they collect data on with the teachers needed right now. and what they're feeling is inadequate. in research and found the teachers reporting that they weren't getting adequate support to support theen students with disabilities. students who are homeless. and all of those pieces need to.

be put into place for teachers to feel comfortable teaching. so asksk your teachers what they needed. what are they lacking . think that could be an important step for the district . host: let's to begin get a couple more calls and . will start with john was calling from florida. and he is a parent. guest: hello. good morning and happy new year. i feel like a lot of these teachers unions are using the covid-19 virus, tell the government hostage for more money. mike and so any other people work, the bus drivers, people who work in the restaurants. supermarkets and young kids, the covid-19 is proven not to spread as much or be as dangerous. so don't understand when they cannot go backge to work.

if they're going too work remotely, why do they want more money. julia: i agree with you that for parents in particular, parents of young children, this is incredibly hard. my kids are older. i do not have to support them as much. i don't know sometimes how parents of young children are doing it sometimes. i do think that some schools, the district to put into place, measures that i think are important now to bring elementary school students at least back and spreadout across so that those elementary students are getting what they needed and also in a safe place. so think the safety is huge right now. so the way to serve the younger children also make everyone feel safe, i think f that is the best combination and factor that can support everybody right now. they agree that elementary kids

in particular, they really need to be back in person. so anything that the school systems continue to do that would help everybody. host: let's talk to martin from dayton, ohio. and he's an educator as well. guest: yes. it i read for the sixth and seventh and eighth grade forso e last few years. also do social s studies. it's been a very difficult year. we all know that . the teachers i think most will tell you that is sort of like being your first year teacher. is that kindss of level of stres and anxiety. mostly it is because we don't have them with us all the time. i'm teaching remotely and very hard to engage kids that way. so to keep them motivated, they will be phone unconfined. but the ones that you can engage when you have them with you in the classroom, you just don't know i how much they are getting

from it. some writing lots of books with them,e great books from great authors because that's what engages them. the outsiders and great books like that. but it's better when you're in the classroom, you can really have the activities on the books and get them interested even if there are not treaters. workingg a really low part of te district bargaining that makes itev even tougher because the learning starts at home. and sometimes the only learning place they have is the schools . julia: i think you're right, there's only so much that you can do remotely. it is wonderful that your reading to them . i think the reading is one window into other places and other worlds. and can of the students and families think beyond the pandemic can get the students engaged in the books and even

engage their parents a little bit. think for the elementary kids right now, teachers are trying to engage the parents as well so that they can be working with their children right now. and there's another thing that i help kind of beyond that the pandemic that it continues is all of the teachers work to connect with the parents because we are saying that a lot right now. and hoping that the teachers continue to connect with her parents and informed them about how the students are doing so that families can work on the students especially during periods of learning. i now can the teachers help the children get back up to speed again. host: let's talk to diane who was calling from arkansas. good morning diane . guest: good morning to you. i'm a substitute. i've been substituting for the last six years in the local icschool districts. some kind of a professional

substitute. there is no way i'm going to substitute in the middle ofmi te pandemic. my question is and i have worked in the schools in texas as well. this is now 2020. the pandemic going across the country. why our schools which i am of our understood. architectural farming. i'm trying to pronounce this. the farming communities anymore. were not . the hesitancy to stick to the old calendar just does not make any sense to me. since the pandemic is so bad, why not delay the school gonings until march and then into the summer.

and parents have to find sisters in the summer. so tell me, i would like to know the expert's opinion as to why we cannot shift the school calendar to the warmer months this year. julia: that is a great question. and i think that some school systems are considering that right now . considering changing the calendars. i think it is really hard to change the calendars because of all of the logistics and pieces that need to be put into place and all of that sanitation's about when they need to support their kids. and i think right now, for example where i live in pittsburgh, during the summer there are all kinds of things in place to get childcare during the summer because that's how the system works for unit but i do agree that we could be taking advantage of the summer months . certainly in some states, the

schools closed earlier, they open earlier and there are different calendars in different places. and thinking about moving into the summer with the school. i think it is a good idea. i think there could be obstacles that i'm not thinking of that makes it complicated. i agree that we can be taking uvantage of those months. and using some of these months to gear up for something like that. it. host: let's go to brad calling from pennsylvania. guest: good morning. as a parent and an educator, i think the one thing that this is exposed, very clearly, is the online education does not work. the one parent called in and suggested why are teachers not in school the kids. these great point . out think what we should be a protected

class. these kids are safe . the science behind it says so. if by chance, there was a student who did not feel safe, they could stay home. and they can go to different cyber rows but the reality is very clearly, online learning does not work. and the teacher should be in the classroom with the kids. as far as the last part pushing the calendar and changing and reforming the calendar and having summertime in time for schools, maybe just being a traditionalist but wearing ten month employee. so a lot of time the blood teachers use the summer months for their second job. and to carry out some of those ways of making ends meet. julia: that is a great point . and i think that kind of goes to my point right now, we have built up expectations and jobs

and everything around that nine month school year. so teachers are expected to be able to work in the summer their jobs in the summer and maybe if bit by bit the calendar was shifted. it would be easier for the teachers to have that ten month calendar but then with other kinds of things . really agree with you, those are the kinds of things that make it very difficult to shift in the school calendar. it's really nice to hear from somebody from their . i grew up in somerset county pennsylvania. i think there are a a lot of schools that are safe and school districts feel safe enough to go back with a rates have been lower. the now getting a little higher. so you are right, the right now a lot of schools are remote and is not working as well. and that's really been driven home by our research in particular. it. host: we would like to thank

julia, and from rand corporation for coming on this morning. at this is julia kaufman. and is now the pandemic is impacting teaching and learning at american school. julia, thank you so much for being with us this morning. speech of thank you would have was such a pleasure to be here. you're watching "c-span2", your unfiltered view of government for unit "c-span2" was created by americans cable television coming today were brought to you by the television coming to provide sees vento to the viewers is a public service. >> use your mobile device to go to cspan.org for video live and on-demand . to follow the transition of power. resident trump, president-elect biden, news conferences and events coverage at cspan.org.

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