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now you heard the house management impeachment managers withdraw that for now, they may relitigate it tomorrow when they reconvene at noon eastern time for the second day of the house impeachment managers case against the former president for inciting an insurrection at the capital. there's a phone numbers on your screen, we want to get to your thoughts and just a minute on what you heard today on the case made by house democrats. you might've noticed right before the slate when up, that is the signage this is a senate stands adjourned you might've noticed the presiding officer patrick leahy democrat of vermont who is presiding over this callout mike to mike lee and then mike lee approaches the podium as those to discuss, look like they were discussing what just happened, reporting for the
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huffington post with this tweet, pandemonium on the floor he describes, lee wants something about managers said struck from the record, lay he is having trouble reading the ruling and cannot turn his microphone on, we can't hear you with the mask on grandpa shouts. the senate is in quorum to figure it out. it sounds like there's more to come on this tomorrow when they adjourn, reconvene at noon eastern time tomorrow. i want to show you the moment mike lee is referring to when david cicilline the democrat of rhode island one of the impeachment managers that helped write the articles of impeachment for these proceedings, he's talking about a phone call that the president made as the violence is happening on capitol hill. >> shortly after 2:00 p.m. as the seed was fully underway then president trump made a call,
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this is the first call that we are where he made to anyone inside the capital during the attack. he did not call the vice president to ask how he could help defend the capital, did not call the next two in-line to succession of the presidency to check on their safety or well-being. instead he attempts to call senator, he dialed senator lee by accident, the senator lee described it he ended up with his colleagues in the senate chamber and the phone rang, it was donald trump. how senator lee explained that that the phone call goes something like this, hey tommy trump ask and senator lee says this is not tommy and he hands the phone to senator, senator lee confirmed that he stood by as the senator spoke on the phone with president trump. on that call donald trump reportedly asked senator tovar
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row to make additional objections to the certification process. that is what he called. let's be clear roughly 2:00 p.m. when donald trump was walking around the white house watching the tv delighted and spent 5 - 10 minutes talking to senator alberhill urging him to delayed the election results this is what was happening in the capital. [shouting] [shouting] >> you saw senator langford stop speaking and leave the floor quickly and that clip because
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they had broken through the barricade and entered the building. as these armed insurrection hanged on the door of members of congress were told to put on their gas masks, put bags over their heads for safety and prepared to evacuate. and donald trump was calling to ask the senator to delay the certification process. let that sink in. donald trump did not get to finish that call with cut off because the senators had to move to another location for your security and thank god they did, as the call was occurring the writers got closer to the senate chamber and as we all know now for the heroism of capital police officer eugene goodman and other law enforcement officers who took them in a different direction they very likely would've gotten you. think about that.
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armed insurrectionist guns, weapons, zip ties, brass knuckles, they were coming for us. they were inside the united states capital. trying to stop the certification process. the police were outnumbered. but for the grace of god they would have gotten us. all of us. and our commander-in-chief makes a call about an hour after the siege began, not to preserve, protect and defend you and our country and the capital but to join forces with the mob and pressure a senator to stop certification. we just can't get known to this kind of behavior. there can be no doubt this is the purpose of donald trump's call that he was not calling to assess the security threat or to check on the well-being of you or anyone else.
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indeed, later on that evening while all of the destruction and damage still continued, dozens of officers were being treated for serious injuries, deaths were confirmed about 7:00 p.m. the president's personal lawyer rudy giuliani made a call and just in case you don't think there was some coordination he also called senator lee trying to reach senator tommy, not because we have a recorder, let's listen to what the president's personal lawyer said on the night of this attack. >> senator tuberville, this is rudy giuliani the president's lawyer i am calling you because i want to discuss with you how they are trying to rush this hearing and how we need you, our republican friends to try to slow it down.
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this was the singular focus of donald trump during this bloodied violent attack on the capital. stopping the certification. >> house impeachment manager david cicilline democrat of rhode island from earlier today. you are looking at a live shot of the senate side of the capital, the senate basement of the senators take those escalators down from the chamber over to their senate offices into the adjacent building of the u.s. capital. as you can see a stakeout position has been set up for senators to deliver their comments, there is senator mike lee republican of utah who objected to the presentation of the house impeachment managers at the very end of today's proceedings saying he wanted the comments attribute it to him
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struck from the record, we will see if they continue if that is brought up again tomorrow when they reconvene at noon eastern time. for tonight we want to get your reaction to what you heard today. republicans (202)748-8921 democrats (202)748-8920, all others to a 27488922, you can post your comments on twitter@c-span or go to work facebook page, facebook.com/c-span. jim and forth worth texas a republican, let's go to you first. >> hello, how are you doing today. >> hi jim have you been watching all day? >> yes me and my wife sitting here watching with our six dogs. >> what are you and the dogs thinking. >> i look at it like this, this is all been building up for the
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last four years, anytime that you talk as negative as a politics, me and my wife have watched politics for a long time. you will have something built up like this. i don't think trump is a superman, i think there's videos that they showed that he shouldn't win an emmy but they put the blame on him on anything. i think everyone of the managers should look at themselves and look what they've said over the last six months and everyone should be impeached right along with him. >> does he in your mind have any responsibility for what happened after you sell the house impeachment managers show his tweets and show the videos that he put out, his own words, do you think he bears any responsibility? >> everybody bears responsibility, anybody that has dealt with what they're dealing with over the last four years,
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yet he's guilty in some ways i don't think he actually told anybody to go in and tear up the buildings like they did. with these places in oregon and things like that they were told to go do something and if you do, will bill you out. you have 75 million people that are saying hey, as far as the democratic belief there is two words that represent our presentation, simple, shut up. that is what people look at, you are going to have people speak out and if they can't they will find other ways to shut up, that's was happening now. >> in california, and my cnet quickly? >> yes you are saying that correctly it is your turn. >> not everybody get that right
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this first time, thinking forgetting that right. i'm an independent california and honestly i've been watching this all day i think through this whole move trump is going to get voted to acquitted is very apparent that a lot of the republican senators have already made up their mind mainly because it's going to be a public vote so 60 - 70% of the republican party is still with trump. so if they vote to convict them, they are voting against their own political career i think they are hearing this evidence and i think it's compelling i'm not on the democratic side or the republican side i am purely independent and i tried to take everything from a neutral standpoint and i am hearing all this evidence is very compelling but i feel like because of the
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partisanship and this not being an impartial jury that we will end up getting trump being acquitted from this. i don't think this is going to go anywhere to be entirely honest. >> it would take 17 republicans joining all 50 democrats to convict because you need 67 senators two thirds of the senate to convict an impeachment trial. david collins of cnn tweeting out asked if he's worried if today's video will have an emotional impact on the jury, the senators, mr. castro the president lawyer said it would have an emotional impact on any jury but there's two sides of the coin and we have not played ours. the former presidents lawyers will get the chance to defend the president after tomorrow eight hour session. so on friday and saturday they get a total of 16 hours over
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those two days to defend the president's actions and respond to what they heard today and what they will hear tomorrow from the house impeachment managers and following the defense lawyers you have four hours for senators to ask questions of the lawyers in the house impeachment managers. and possibly debate on calling witnesses that could take up to ours. the final proceeding will include closing arguments and then a deliberation and vote on whether or not to convict and i said two thirds of the senate would vote to convict. if the former president were convicted and this seems like a tall hurdle at this point given the votes we have seen. if he were to be convicted then the senate could vote on barring the president from future federal office, that would take a simple majority vote only 51
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needed. more reporting from cnn covering capitol hill with this, tweeting a quote from senator lindsey graham a republican from south carolina, the legal series they have is absurd that somehow trump is a secret member of the probably come i cannot believe that we could lose the capital like that, i got mad watching the video, these police officers had every right to use deadly force and they should have used it. he also said senator thune said dems did ineffective job in connecting the dots from trump's words to the insurrection, ted cruz republican of texas the language from the president doesn't come close to meeting the legal standard for incitement. peter let's go to you in indiana, democratic caller, what do you think after today's presentation by the house impeachment managers? >> i thought it was a really
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moving, honestly there was footage that nobody seen up until this point. it was a feeling sort of sense of violation of little bit and anger and sadness that i think most of us who saw what happened on january 6 felt on that day. >> peter, what do you say to house and senate democrats if they cannot get the boat to convict the former president. >> i think the most important thing right now for our country we have to try, what's the other alternative to me would be roll over and allow any future president to see the lame-duck and a chance to try to cling onto power and get away with inciting violence, it's not really an option, i agree
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they're going to get enough republicans to passover but i think they're going to try that's the number one thing. >> you say you have to be on the record. >> what's that. >> you say you have to hold these proceedings and be on the record? >> exactly i don't see any other way around it for our country. if nothing else we have to get the senators on the record and see who is willing to stand up against this insurrection or who is going to side with the former president who nearly got away with it and as we saw there were multiple senators and the vice president who were nearly feet away from potential violence. it is maddening that they might still vote to acquit but that's where were at, i think we have to try. >> ashley parker reports on capitol hill sent this tweet out
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the moment you're talking about a terrifying impeachment video footage shows the angry mob incredibly close to presidents family who part of the new timestamps were hiding within feet of the mob for 12 - 14 minutes. this from the associated press rioters got within 100 feet of vice president mike pence during the capital right, prosecutors say president trump's impeachment trial, any of the video that you saw today can be found on our website c-span.org/impeachment, you can watch on-demand any time any of what the proceeding that you have seen today or in the coming days. ed and peach bottom pennsylvania, republican. hi ed. >> hi good evening how are you. >> i am doing well. as you watch today, what stuck out in your mind? >> i'm in the opinion that they
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lay the blame of the riots of the former presidents feet is misguided and highly to the blame at the feet of the supreme court. let me explain why. i think if your under the belief that several states went around state legislatures and changed voting laws at the last minute the supreme court should've heard those cases and put some of this to rest. i believe that donald trump asked mike pence to create a constitutional crisis in the proceedings and that what compelled the supreme court to rule on the states and because they didn't and there was no finalization to it i think that is what compelled the right, i don't see convicting a man of exercising his free-speech rights. i think the blame lays at the feet of the supreme court.
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>> however, ed, how do you respond to the argument that you have free-speech rights but you cannot yell fire in the crowd of a theater, that president that you heard the house impeachment managers argue today. >> i agree with that, however, i have not seen any evidence that he has done that, in fact i have seen constitutional scholars, mr. turley and several other lawyers claiming that it would be thrown out of a civil court because he did not commit incitement and it would be thrown out of a civilian court or a civil court, why should it pass through a partisan process. >> okay, heather in north carolina. hi heather. >> hey, how are you.
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>> good evening, as you watch today what were you thinking? >> oh my goodness i was thinking several things and obviously were all home i have kids at home and my husband's working from home because of covid so were all watching this, i was talking to my 13-year-old about it and he was trying to understand what is going on and why were still glued to the tv. i said what if you go to school one day in your principal announces over the intercom that he wants the people that support him, the kids in your class to harass or bully the kids that don't agree with him and how would you feel if these people just took what he said and ran with it and there was disruption at school. his response to me was, mom my principal would never do that. and i said exactly. that is what were dealing with in america. >> debbie in middletown
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california, democratic caller, we will go to you next debbie. >> hi, how are you doing this evening? >> i'm fine. debbie have you been watching today? >> all day, yes i have i can't tear myself away. i do have a comment about the woman who called earlier she said she was a trumper and she was saying that she did not think that trump incited everything with his speech on the morning of the sixth but that is not even the point. i don't know if she has been watching or not but he shrewd his followers for months and elevated his attempt to overthrow the election from one level to the next to the next as he lost and lost and finally he kept telling them go take your country back which is just insane, i was so upset i've never seen anything like this in my life, well it's never
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happened in america in my life. but yes, he completely incited and he is 100% responsible for what happened and for not stopping it and i find it unbelievable that people cannot see that. >> debbie as you were watching today, what piece of evidence, video or otherwise resonated with you? >> gosh, i don't think there is any one piece. i wouldn't want to take any one thing out of context, it was the whole story that they told. how he elevated and went from this to that, there have been people with these kind of beliefs forever but for the last four years trump has told them it is okay, come out of your
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cave in the darkness and were going to take over. so there wasn't any one thing, it was the entire situation that he groomed his people to do his dirty work. >> who impressed you of the house managers if anyone? >> they were all good but i was very impressed by jamie raskin in the very beginning, i think he's a wonderful speaker, he makes his point also, i hate to say i'm now forgetting her name the lady from the virgin islands. >> they were all good, i think they all very clearly made their points. unemotionally and showed the facts of what happened in trump did not stop it, he incited it and sat back to watch what
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happened. >> jamie raskin the lead house manager 58 years old first elected in 2016 constitutional professor and writing this article of impeachment the day after january 7, the day after the attack on the capital. michael in staten island new york, a republican what do you think? >> i felt a lot of the testimony that was given by the democrats was all cookie cut to sit a lot of fluff and narrative that does not exist. i felt, i watched the first impeachment, i watched the hearings throughout the country in regards to voter fraud, a lot of the judges did not accept testimony via facebook and social media for the voter fraud cases that were by mayor giuliani in the trump legal team but yet the senate trial i feel
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that a trial where senator lay he is in charge of it also had a vote on whether or not to impeach trump instead of him. >> it's unfair, is that what you said? >> yes. >> senator patrick leahy 80 years old the longest-serving member of the senate he served as the president of the senate, he is presiding because the chief justice john roberts is not presiding, the constitution does not say if you impeach a former president that the chief justice has to preside. so mr. lahey's duties will include, this is according to the washington post tasks such as a asking questions by senators and reading them aloud to the prosecution or the defense of the rules given the fluid authority why he may rule
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on these admissibility of evidence for example the full senate can override his rulings prior presiding officers simply referred the biggest question to the senate. nathaniel in georgia. good evening to you, what are your thoughts? >> hello, i just want to mention i think were putting the cart before the horse, today was great theater. however, i want the viewers to go back to yesterday when the senator democrat from colorado open and said that the president to have his trial was based on william beaumont the late 1800 case, they went ahead and had the trial were bill knapp but he was acquitted, they said to have a trial based on this case but what he failed to mention is why he was acquitted, he was
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acquitted because the 23 senators that voted not to convict all agreed they had no jurisdiction. this was after they all agreed that bill knapp was guilty. so the whole thing is greek theatre but it's a cart before the horse, there is no jurisdiction and that's how this is going to turn out. people need to realize that when john roberts is not on he is not serving as presiding over, that is killing everyone it is unconstitutional. >> what do you think is going to happen because the senate -- >> there going to throw out listen to what they're doing in georgia where i'm from there is a case against trump in the court, there is no january exception because you can try the man as a private citizen. forget the january exception if he's guilty, take it to the judicial, the court. he is a private citizen, try to
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have him convicted as inciting in that. because this is just the political theater. i don't have to go to amc to see a movie. this is great theater but no jurisdiction. it's a waste of time and that's with the bill knapp case, that was the true president said. >> nathaniel, they voted yesterday on the constitution question and they had six republican say yes we have the jurisdiction to proceed which pave the way for today in the coming days of this trial. >> you are right about that but what's going to happen, they will not get to two thirds in the 44 republicans are going to vote that the reason why we are not convicting if we don't have jurisdiction that's what happened at the end of the bill knapp case and what will happen now john roberts is not sitting up there and if we keep doing
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this to the constitution we are on shaky grounds. >> nathaniel, anyone who missed the moment that nathaniel is talking about it is when congressman joe negus from colorado a member of the house of representatives he is the one of the youngest members of congress one of the youngest members of the house impeachment team and the youngest member in history to serve on an impeachment team and he is 36 years old. you can find that argument if you go to our website c-span.org/impeachment, watch on-demand anything from the past couple of days and the coming days as well. let's go to fran march billed wisconsin, democratic caller. hi fran, fran and wisconsin you are up. one more try for fran, democratic caller. let me go to chris who is in
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port charlotte florida, republican. hi, chris. >> hi, how are you? - i am fine. have you been watching today? >> yes i have. >> what do you think. >> i think the united states of america to put the stuff on the air, that was a total set up from day one, trump did absolutely nothing wrong i want him to go home in peace. and people to walk around and destroy our cities with no government ever responsible but get impeached for watching him destroy small businesses and companies and people that want to work at and people can't get any money. if you guys want to blame this on trump in some kind of thing you need to put antifa and blm, biden should be impeached for letting a happen.
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>> we will leave it there, tomorrow morning 7:00 a.m. eastern time we will pick back up with your reaction to the second day of the impeachment trial against president trump, 7:00 a.m. eastern time and here in c-span2 r coverage begins at noon eastern time the third day of the impeachment trial you can watch on c-span2 on our website c-span.org or you can download the free c-span radio app. >> you are watching c-span2 your unfiltered view of government. c-span2 was created by america's television companies and brought to you by these television companies who provide cspan2 to viewers as a public service. ♪ >> we now take you back to the beginning of today's impeachment trial proceedings which got underway at noon eastern time, here it

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