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ambassador to the u.s. she talks about how the biden administration may approach the u.s./mexico relationship and lessons learned in the trump administration. this is by the center for strategic and international studies it is about an hour. spectra still got a lot of contributing to do were going tory use the word retirement and a very loose sense. thank you. the last thing i want to say is i want to congratulate you early on, you have the birth of your second grandchild this week. so want to offer on behalf of all the sif the warmest congratulations to you and your family on this wonderful life moment. direct yes thank you very much. i mean i am approaching these quote unquote retirement, with an attitude that it is just cothe next stage in which i could continue to contribute to mexico, to the

relationship from others. and i also take the opportunity to give more time to my family. being a grandmother is great. it is always been great for everyone. but i think the pandemic is also made us.what is really important in life and how we should prioritize. certain moments in your life. now i think it's time to spend -- it's time to spend more time with my family. so i am happy with this. but i am sure that we will keep in touch. not only with you, my dear friend, but with all the friends of mexico. sue and let's start ambassador you join the foreign services in 1979, you must've been ten years old when you started.

[laughter] twenty-one. >> of sense served in various capacities. several ambassadorships, could you tell us a little bit about what major, what prompted you to join the bourne service. when there a lot of women in foreign service in 1979? speck in my generation we are 50% women 50% men. was one of the first generations that was equal numbered. when we join the foreign services, i always had great interest in international affairs in history. it's also classical pal ballet dancers. i wanted to become a dancer a professional dancer. i was a professional dancer in the mexican national company. butph then i started to have a lot of physical problems. so i thought it was better to

rely on my head and not my head on my body. [laughter] so i finished diversity. and since i was a child my me, hether to take would show me where you study political science. he was a great foreign minister of mexico, and he told me, here you study become a diplomat. i said what is a diplomat? i was like eight years old. he said he represent your country. and you do it well within intelligence. so that remained in my t mind. when i joined the university, there had been moments in which aspects of the calendar

of the high schools were not compatible. you have to wait for a year to go into the university. so i went to a private university in mexico. they did not have the career of international affairs of international relations. but they had communication which i thought it was a very attractive career to study. who hundred very broad number of issues that were addressed. in that time it was more based on humanities and philosophy than technical issues. and then i talked to some setting international, freedom of expression at international level. you may remember the young people will not remember, there was discussion of the

new world economic order. in the underlying movement, or sparking about the new world information order and the famous conference. i got into study all of these matters. and in time when the foreign ministry made a call to join the mexican foreign service i decided to join and i passed exams. and i was there for more than 40 years, sometimes taking absence to follow my husband who is also a career diplomat retired. it has been a great experience. more than an experience, the passion of my life to represent my country. to be able to establish communication bridges, my communications studies never abandoned me and i never abandoned them.

so keep a lot of attention and empathy on feedback, on understanding, explaining your position well. that is been the passion of my life. , that is the story why i joined the foreign>> service. >> you are ambassador to denmark, turkey, georgia, other countries and also mexico's basilar to rome. you have a very storied career. yes. >> along the path of your time these other countries but i want to stop your time of representative to mexico the fao. because you learn when you're representing mexico the fao you realize you're going to become mexico's ambassador to the united states.

could you please tell us the story told her that made me laugh question. >> yes i was based in rome it's a fantastic organization. so i asked my friend a representative of fao, she please help me to have a farewell appointment with pope francis. and he organized that. so i met pope francis twice in fao, in big groups. and so, i had these private audience four minutes on a wednesday. and i say your holiness, i am coming to say goodbye and to seek your benediction because i will be posted soon to a

very challenging post for he asked me gross thinking and i said i'm going to be the mexican ambassador to the u.s., and he just started laughing. [laughter] that is a challenge. [laughter] >> host: he said that's a challenge? he started laughing and said you will have a huge task. we were talking for a while about immigration, migrants, you know poverty, equality, and at the end of the conversation he said but you also have to pray forha me. we all need prayers. >> wow, wow. make it was a very moving conversations that i have photographs. i think it shows that pope francis understoode quite well the challenge and the

relevance of being the mexican ambassador to the u.s. i'm not reflective mode in the weeks and talking with colleagues who have asked me, how did you manage? you know, mexico has become for the u.s., not a foreign policy issue but more and more a domestic policy. we are so integrated, as i said sometimes my was not the secretary of the state where the state department but always dhs. >> let's talk about that. i don't think people, unless you follow mexico closely, they won't recognize how incredibly important mexico is to the american economy. could you share a few facts you and i both know but many people in this audience will know but just for the record it's important to share. i don't think we can say this

enough, just some of the things you and i know about the economic relationship between mexico and the united states. it is quite critical to both our countries, we have a shared future. >> it is absently critical to truly have anish shared future. i think it mexico is always acknowledge the u.s. his key for our governments. but sometimes in the u.s., there isn't that knowledge and of the importance ofth mexico. we are now either the first or second trading partner of the u.s. >> host: could you hold in that for just a second i apologize for interrupting you, you have been foror the first time in 400 years, sometime in the last two years the number one trading partner of the united states is mexico. not canada, not china, mexico. >> so in thousand 19, trade

reach $600 billion. and norma saw much more than the gdp of many countries. and just to have an idea, we trade one point to million dollars per minute. we trade one point to million dollars per minute through the 57 ports of entry by land, we trade 80% all the trade takes place through land ports of entry. other through seaports orot air. and mexico is the first or second market for 26 estates for exports. and our main partner in this data is texas. we trade with texas $216 billion a year. which is really amazing. it's almost $800 million a day.

and then our second partner is california. but the trade of almost 80 billion. 79billion. the third partners michigan. almost $70 million. >> michigan? >> guest: michigan. speck texas and california be put a gun to my head and say what's a third i would've said arizona? michigan. >> your more important for arizona's economy them michigan. in the global, is michigan. the trade of mexico with michigan is similar to the trade of the u.s. so mexico trade with the u.s.

and norma's amount. but it isou not only the trade it is an investment. it is integration. companies are going to have more done, 56 -- 56 -- 60 prayers with mexico. the other day was saying a company identified, i don't member which company it was, identified that they had 200 suppliers in mexico. >> host: wow. >> guest: if mexico collapses the u.s. a cast claps. if the u.s. collapses that mexico economy will almost disappear. this is also with canada. i don't think many americans realize the importance of mexico. speck north america, not just the united states with our

economy. >> guest: because i don't think you can speak now about mexico's economy or the u.s. economy, or canada's economy without realizing they cannot be independent. they are totally integrated. so it's eight north american economy. back i want to hammer home to other important points for .this number of mexican companies have invested in united states. could you tell one or two stories about that?st ios don't think we think of those terms either. >> host: i think the mexican companies have invested recently in the u.s. more than 30 billion u.s. dollars. making a lot of employment. i will mention several of them are well-known. and some are not so well-known maybe. among the most well-known, most of americans will note or

identify by the name of mission foot. it's the largest producer of corn flour in the world. it is a global company. they produce of course tortillas, not shows,ce everything. it is the largest corn flour producer in the world. it is key for the food industry. they are based in dallas. they have, if my memory does not fail me, or than 25 factories around the u.s. >> it's a mexican company and they have u.s. operations. >> the is operations in dallas. they are based in monterey, and mexico. they are in egypt, they are all around the world. see what they are the saudi arabia cornflower. >> you could say that. >> give me another example of

the mexican company investing in the unitede states, i think we never hear about this. there are tons of these there are lots of examples like this. the fourth largest confectionery in the world. >> largest breadmaker. they bought about four years ago, sara lee. >> host: really? >> guest: they own sarae lee. it is a huge mexican company. i think it's the most effective one in mexico in bread making is also a global company. they have o the best logistics you can imagine. and of course they have also more than 30 factories in the u.s. stuart are they the ones it on the twinkies?

>> guest: i don't think so but i can check. sue and their also famous for the white bread. >> guest: yes yes.e basically they are great. they are other companies that are smaller, for example ambassador, i'm sure you have never heard of them. they have like nine plants in the u.s. what do they do? they manufacture most of the aluminum cans of fortuna, for fear, and they are also a successful mexican company, family-owned. not stock listed. so we canan talk a lot about these. or should have some investments of the great tv networks and mexico. but another thing, we are having more and more medium

businessmen, mexican business man or women course that are establishing themselves here. one of the opportunities we have for the future is this interaction of the mexican business men and businesswomen, business persons the mexican-american and has power positions to tackle specifically the very special markets which has several different tastes may be. you know and food, but also in clothing, and music, and cultural industries, put together series and spanish. this is something i want to announce that just yesterday we signed an agreement a mexican company that is led by

a great producer to start, first we will make a call for young mexican americans to write foror a series to be produced about the mexican-american community. about migration and be produced with mexican articles on this. i think this is something we're just seeing the beginning of a new era of interactions.. because what we are seeing in the last years in the u.s. isit a total transformation and empowerment of the hispanic community.om and in that hispanic community the mexican-american community, mexican communities. [inaudible] >> host: going to come back to the changing demography think it's really important. they push on one c other thing. i understand mexico makes more thattoday than japan, is

true? select yes. is it true mexico's a very large auto manufacturer? the two yes they are one of the largest auto manufacturers in mexico. >> host: it's like the largest in the world of cars, right? speech of my memory does not fail neatly must be likee the sixth, it's been the fourth and the sixth largest manufacturer and exporter of cars. this is something i want to underline, i would not say that mexico manufactures car. i think their most american cars. >> host: think he was the north american supply chain. a critical component of this north american supply chain and auto manufacturing isn't mexico. similar to aviation your talk about earlier.

>> a one peace of a car, sometimes crosses the border seven times. >> on i my word. >> for the cars finally assembled either in mexico, canada or the u.s. you go into an in-depth analysis of toyota strategies are general motor strategies, they have the final assembly line of certain models in mexico. but of other surgeon models and canada and in the u.s. so to speak about the u.s. auto industry, the mexican industry, does not reflect reality. you have to speak about the north american auto industry. we speak about the north american auto industry, we not only speak about the big three americans, general motors, and

ford and chrysler now with all of the names, we also are a global -- platform for global production of cars, toyota, kia, volvo, mercedes-benz, bmw, the audi. they are all present in the north american regent. and so we have to speak about the north american auto industry and how integrated we are. and how we are a platform exports, not only for the north american market but for the latin america, for asia, for africa. if we really want to underline what is the future of the north american region we have to study the integration of the auto industry. we have to work for the goodness of north america.

>> i think is a very important one. so related to that we just had, maybe you can argue an update to enough. one of the reasons i said earlier you had a very successful mission here in the united states, ambassador comments usmca got that on your watch. and people like her friend kim briar who played a key role in this, and love mexico, one of mexico's greatest friends. their focus on the house i like tony lane is a former u.s. ambassador to had a formal role. so ambassador could you talk a minute about usmca, it has gotten done there still some loose ends to work out in terms of implicate implementation for could you talk a little more about your hopes in this trade what you think the opportunities are within north america? i would welcome that given the context of usmca. >> guest: i think u.s. mc

issue well underlined is done a lot it took a lot of effort. usmca is not only a free trade agreement, it's an investment agreement. because in certain areas, it tightens the origins. the tightening of the rules of origin was designed to attract more foreign investment to the american.te that means if you want to sell in the north american region you have to produce cars or vehicles that comply with these new rules of origin that ask you to have a higher regional content. it is technically speaking, it's long to explain. but it implies to have these very high level of contents on

also having certain kinds of steel and aluminum et cetera. also, usmca is a new template, as speaker plus he said in a way, it is a new template for the trade agreements will see in the future. that means that includes labor, specifications, labor rights, bless you, salute. it includes. [inaudible] it includes a branch of new chapters that were not included enough. like digital trade, like mechanisms to in incorporate small and medium enterprises, like how to take the opinion of an genders committees cultural industries. the three countries, we are learning and we will enter a new stage now which by the way

was verye much involved in the process of you mca. she knows you mca by heart. we will enter this new stage of implementation of finishing with the establishment of the that are contemplated in usmca. and to show to the world these kind of new templates for trade can be the model. and we can progress. it is a responsibility of the u.s. canada that this is a way of going forward. different estimates from different companies or people who concentrate on trade analysis with think that trade can grow quite a lot.

both in canada/u.s. border and we can go on talking on that. how are we going to bring in odd. mix the north american region respect to be continue ambassador spent let me impress on this though, there is a common perception or a perception among some in the business committee that residents not seen as pro-business. and there is a hope that the biden/harris administration, along with the business community both in mexico and the united states, maybe in all of north america, will convince president and low's government but your reaction to that? spain. >> i think it's not very

accurate perception. i think the perception that is not open to -- is not favorable to the private sector. doesn't exactly portray what he thanks. because most of the criticism has been concentrated on the decisions on energy issues. you have to remember that our energy systems and mexico and in the u.s. have been different for many, many years. so the u.s. energy sector was alwaysxi private. in 1938 was a national energy sectorct. and then the electricity in 1954 were a little bit later. then we slowly started to open

up to more private business participation in the energy sector. which was totally closed. and not opening up to the private sector, i think we did many things right. and some other maybe not so right. and i say this because i was the mexican ambassador to norway when the last energy reform was up in mexico. there was basically based on the regional model for i say basically because we did not follow the region modeling key issues that would have made it more efficient. so, we open up slowly to the private sector. i mean that is opening up for some are taken very fast.

what the president wants is to bring back some order to the energy sector so that both, are viable companies for the future. sorry cfc. i think the main question here in cfc is that it seems we haven't in balance of how much electricity will produce, sometimes mexico as a whole with public and private can produce a lot ofof electricity from different sources. but we don't have sometimes the distribution agreed that we need to properly distribute that energy throughout the country. so, and in that process the

perception in mass mexico is the hydroelectric plants that are basically concentrated in the southern part of mexico were not used at full capacity. because if they were used at full capacity, then there would be an excess of electricity coming from the hydropower plus the wind power in the region which is the largest wind power area of mexico. so what they are trying to do is to give priority to the hydropower plants. i think this low initiative, it will be broadly discussed. and i hope in that discussion

wen will find some, maybe points of conduct in the agreement for the future. having said that in the energy sector, we have differences and we need to explain better of the government. i would say that in other areas, mexico is totally open for private investment. : : other private sector investments are hiding in mexico so we should not confuse the differences in discussions that were having from the energy

sector with general position of the mexican government against the private sector because that's not true we are open for private sector and that we have different perceptions or approaches. >> something i noticed there is a turn in the american leader metrumped arrangement syndrome maybe it is true maybe it is not there is a form of the arrangement syndrome among many of my elite friends in mexico, they have this irrational reaction to the president, my view the president of mexico for the next four years, i don't want to ask you to psychologically explain that but it is striking to me the

negative animus, would you be willing to react to that? >> it is striking to me because when i arrived here a lot of people told me the communication with the trump administration would be impossible and very difficult, we had differences pretty much impossible it was not difficult and we had people the state department who helped out a lot, jared kushner of the white house, the national security council the white hous in general and we disagree many times a dhs, i could tell in adults about my monthly meetings and they would make fun of me because one of my friends and dhs was saying they knew, let me explain to you and they said

here they come to tell us we are wrong and many issues but the communication was possible and i think it's a same with the president i have known him for years and i know that he listens and i know that you can talk to him, you can explain to him, it's just maybe there have been a lot of proper tunnels of communication of different levels of the government of interaction. one of these challenges is because in certain areas there is a misunderstanding of how important to talk to the private sector into engaged to the private sector, some of the officials of mexico have never been officials before and they are afraid if they engage in a

conversation with the private sector they would be accused of the interest of the private sector and not acting for the public benefit point of view. i think it has to be understood by both sides that when you engage in a conversation in the dialogue regarding certain issues, neither the private sector can expect that the officials would change their mentality or do mine because the private sector asked. on the public sector officials would have to understand that engaging with the private sector doesn't mean that they're being corrupt or yielding to their interest but they have to find in common and may be a diplomacy inside of mexico for that. >> i think it's available to

track 1.5 ambassador for something along those lines we would love to help the mexican government and the north american private sector engage that is something that is in the back of my mind and someone needs to play that role and were available for that. >> we have to think on that because i would assume it's very important to these misconceptions about the mexican government and the president which is open. >> were 40 minutes and we have not talked about migration is a sensitive topic ande gr i worryt emigration crosses at our border between mexico and the united states is going to swamp out other issues we just had a very fruitful discussion about this and so many other important issues we pattern our relationship of the north americanno economy but this is

going to swamp our relations and of course i do not have to tell you this but most of the folks crossing the border are not from mexico they're from central america and a lot of instances or other places, mexico has that migration you know this and i know this since 2005 there been more mexicans going back to mexico then mexicans coming to the united states and one of the reasons is when a country gets $8000 per capita which mexico did in 2005 because it reformed its economy over decades and opened its economy and now industrial player as you describe, people don't want to migrate when you have $8000 people want to stay where you are in mexico as well beyond $8000 remember the club of wealthy market democracies, having said all that, what the heck are we going to do if there

is a border crisis and how do we challenge the issue of migration together. >> i don't think there would be a border crisis i think it could be if we don't take the measures, why could the border crosses we see a situation in central america that needs to be an urgency there are two tracks or two different aspects in central america now the traditional problem that we share with some of our central americans brothers and with young people and pray of organized crimes and we have to

enhance the level of opportunity and this is a long-term view of addressing the root causes of migration true investment private sector but also public-sector and logistics in this, is it long-term? if we have a more urgent and short-term crisis would change the result of last year? and in central america you already had a crisis of lack of opportunity and you remember central america, 60% of the migrants from honduras came from s the rural area -- plantations and then hurricanes, we have to act with a short and medium-term attitude for urgent aid for example do you know the most successful cash transfer system

run by the ws p is in honduras they run the transfer system, it is as simple as the u.s. saying part of the money i allocate to the wf p or extra money to wf p has to be channeled to the cash base transfer system in honduras so people say in honduras and they review their communities. this is the urgent assistance that we have to work together and then of course we have to find the way of dealing hugh manley with the communists that are migrating and they think the idea of giving a great importance to family unification would be key because what you have to open his legal paths for

people to come to the u.s. and one path that has been very successful is h2o visa the h2 b visa is low almost like 70000 year and you see industries like the crab industry almost going bankrupt because they cannot use and they do not have workers. so there are certain tweaks that can be done in the short and medium-term that will diminish the pressure very much, you know family unification, h2 abc, elevating, increasing the cap for the visa and emergency aid

and programs that are already there that you are not going to create programs but use what yor have there, that would help you to control the short and medium-term pressure and long-term attitude of addressing the root causesde of migration which is an area of coincident between president lopez obrador in the biden harrison administration they are totally convergent on that priority. >> let me put something on the table i put out an article a couple years ago saying we ought to repurpose the north american development which was set upp after nafta to broaden to include the mexican southern border and perhaps the three countries of the northern triangle i'm not asking you for an official policy but what your reaction toti that. >> we studied it and we thought

that it was necessary to repurpose, it's easier said than done because you have to change the origin to that bank. >> this is something we can work on together when you retire. >> this is not easy. >> the border community when they listen to this they were worried and they are right we have so many needs to comply, logistics, we would need to increase the resources by three or four times to be able to cover the needs of the border of mexico the southern border of the u.s. into go out of areas, i

would have done more obeisance than you are, i think more than a net bank forre the border, we would need to think of a bank, that takes care of the poorest regions in the three countries of north america in a way similar of the european union and there is in need of huge investment of canada and the u.s. and areas of mexico and maybe if you analyze not nationally but regionally and locally you will find similarities in certain areas but this is agreed for the next ten or 15 years, it will level the playing field for everyone.

>> ambassador i want to make sure i get this, there is interesting questions one is about a woman, how did you apply a gender perspective as your time as ambassador, my understanding mexico is a feminist foreign policy, can you just talk about that in your female and in ambassador so can you talk about the foreign policy and what's it like with the first mexican ambassador having beenam a woman. >> i think i applied the gender perspective in a very practical way one practical way i look at the section ofok the embassy and see we have more men than women let's see if we can remove some of the women so were more

balanced x-ray of the embassy. second i will ask my congress section two particularly concentrate on getting the interviews with women senators and with congresswomen so i can engage with them. because of covid we cannot do something that i was talking with debbie dingell particularly which was to get together to the icwomen ambassadors in washingtn with the congresswoman and to see if we could find points of coincidence and also the congresswomen with mexico specifically and see which area we could advance so i establish a very good relationship with

several congresswomen that are close to my heart, i like her so much and debbie dingell and i don't know that was a practical way of doing it in senator kristen cinema and martha mcsally and joni ernst, i really enjoy my conversations with the women politicians because they were always veryy constructive and that was another area that i worked very hard and then we were also working the issue basically with the network in the u.s. and by consummating

washington of domestic violence and i made a specific point of engaging in this issue with the women leaders of the mexican community in virginia because we call the domestic violence went up and this is something that really worries us and we were working with the foreign ministry and the network of consulates to focus on these matters and when i went to visit some of my consulates of mexico that unfortunately i could not visit them all, one of my priorities was to meet with the leaders of the mexican community and particularly with young female leaders, i always met with them, and listen to them and domestic violence was an issue ind the second was

something very psychological, how do we educate our children to make them proud of the mexican origin and to make them proud to be immigrants and not be despised for being immigrants. and for not mastering english at the beginning, we work a lot on encouraging to be bilingual on success stories for children, this is success migrate in the successful mexican, that issue which is very psychological hurts the mothers very much, how do i make sure that my son or my daughter are not ashamed of the migrantau or mexican that they e proud of being migrants and

mexican and that's what i've been saying during my whole tenure that mexicans in the past, the present in the future of the a u.s. >> it is true, that is amazing, i have another question from the chat, i'm going to use my words, this is about a perception that president and low was close to president trump, is this a challenge for president having a good relationship with president biden? >> i would not think it's a challenge and they managed to build a good relationship with president trump he respected president was a strong leader and i think president understood

the psychology of president trump wereol very well in the interacted well, my personal opinion and they have been talking about this with my president a couple of times he and president biden shared many combinations, both reach the presidency after several attempts in a long political career and they are both committed to issues that are dear to them like aggressive inequality, addressing discrimination the given opportunity of taking care of the most honorable, i think president biden knows mexico better than many other presidents of the u.s. before and i am certain in time the

pandemic and everything allows it, if president biden goes to mexico either to the border and common challenges and to see how we can push on the development of mexico and pull central america with us, he will understand much moree about mexico and he will engage with president lopez obrador. i am optimistic and i don't think the good relationship that president lopez obrador had with president trump would be an obstacle to a good relationship and with president biden on the contrary it shows that the president lopez obrador on a

person-to-person basis can be very engaging and it's a pleasure to talk with him one-on-one. chris: another question that's come up very interesting there has been a recent trade agreement a specific trade agreement and to follow one to tpp for the united states the trump administration pulled out ofof the ttp a china led asian-pacific called rcp was put , what does that mean for mexico. >> i wouldn't think of the latestem agreement of ctp we are following very closely all the statements of the biden administration have been saying

about ctp p and rejoining some changes we don't know what changes so maybe in the future but we don't necessarily something a race by itself ctp pp, i think they can be complementary and i think the u.s. government will send us more clear signals in the near future and how they will approach economic relationship with asia in general and particularly meanwhile mexico continues to be part of the ctp pp and we worked very hard with them and with the pacific alliance when there was colleagues and countries from peru, colombia, chile and we are progressing on that. but on the arena, we have a huge

agenda in the future, you discussed how do we manage cannot integrate the harmonize with a new usmca how do we harmonize our work with the alliance of usmca, how do we deal with ctppp, how is this other agreement going to work, we are also in the process of going through the ratification process of a new agreementoc of mexico with the european union that will also have a huge impact on the sector. >> my last question for you ambassador, we have an incoming mexican ambassador to the united states and some point the united states will name a new ambassador to mexico, could you

just give a little bit of advice to both of those new people i believe we knowth who the next mexican ambassador incoming but we don't knowba who the next ambassador to mexico, in generic terms some parting thoughts you have for both ofe those two people. >> i'm in touch with the incoming ambassador on a daily basis and i've known him since i was very young like 15 and 17 we know each other well, he's very professional and talented politician so i been providing him with all the information that he requestedma and more iny main advice would be engage, engage, engage, don't sit at the desk and read and don't engage with people. engage with the community, that is key to understand and to learn better and particularly

wonder the new congress i know and covid-19 times is not as difficult but you have to do engage with all the different departments of the u.s. government engage with governors and mayors and you have a network that can help you, my main advice would be engage, engage engaged but to engage you have to be well prepared, you cannot arise to a meeting because it will not get you there, you have to master in which you are going to each one because that shows respect and that shows you can advance an agenda to a former future, not

performer but to a future u.s. ambassador to mexico, engaging is very important, always important, mastering the issues but i would say be very attentive to mexicans and sensitivity particularly on what we think are the limits for nonintervention, try not to speak publicly about internal politics of mexico, try to be very careful, try to be constructive, nonconfrontational and that will help, maybe i'm too naïve but i think that will help into both ambassadors i would say as soon as covid allows you, travel to the country not be in a mexico ambassador, a washington ambassador but the ambassador of mexico to the u.s. in the ambassador of the u.s. to

mexico. >> ambassador thank you so much, congratulations on your service and as i said it's not goodbye it see you next week i look forward to affluent and ongoing dialogue, csis is so grateful for your partnership and i want to thank you for your public service and were grateful for your friendship that you have shown us, think you ambassador. >> thank you the one that is thankful is me three or four issues that we can work on in the future and i want to take the opportunity of this dialogue in this platform to think from the bottom of my heart to all the friendsan of mexico, all the people that is engaged in the us-mexico relationship and north american relationship, at the end we ambassadors come and go but it's you that i've been

working for years in the bilateral relationship it's the mexicans that live here that are the real ambassadors of both countries, thank you and continue that good work. >> thank you ambassador i'll be in touch and thanks and stay healthy and congratulations on the birth of your second grandchild. >> i'm delighted. >> thank you. >> c-span washington journal every day we take your calls live on the air on the news of the day and we discussed policy issues that impact you, coming up wednesday morning we talk about the possible returns of air marks with taxpayers for common sense presidents and congressional institute president mark strahan, then arthur clyde on his book about u.s. china trade and economic relations. watch c-span washington journal live in seven eastern wednesday morning and be sure to join your

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