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>> on thisth phone this morninga reporter for the washington examiner reporting on the justice department. evidence does doctor redfield have of this? >> much of the evidence the circumstantial evidence, but there is some circumstantial evidence that it would have come from an accidental institute of virology. we know from 2018 that the u.s. was concerned about biosafety standards of the institute. level fouran lab dealing with highly contagious dangerous viruses and the department released a declassified fact sheet mid-january laying out

more interesting detail, research being conducted at the home lab, secret military experiments, the wuhan lab apparently collaborating with chinese military and the lab itself was studying covid-19 known genetic, relative as well so circumstantial evidence, to be sure certainly not moving in anyway but that evidence suggests it's a plausible hypothesis worth investigating further so it is interesting disappointing the who team would say it's not worth looking into for the. >> why would he say accidental

relief? >> great question. the intelligence community weighed in on this, a rare way last may and they said the intelligence community agreed this not a man-made bio weapon but they were taking seriously the possibility it was from these you are not forthcoming from animals, they were also taking seriously the possibility that there's an accidental leak. it looks like the lab was studying some dangerous viruses, known for coronavirus research. it known for having biosafety

standards and u.s. intelligence is correct on this, it's also tengaging in secret experiments with the chinese military and research, research that done that increases transmissibility of the virus but the purpose of helping to find vaccines for such a virus but there's always the chance that a virus escape and viruses have escaped from chinese labs before. sars in fact most recently has been known to have done that. >> what does the world health organization show when they say most likely the scenario that the virus came from that to humans? >> the theory they have been

saying most likely, they've been saying since they came back from their heavily stage-managed trip in february, they've been saying there most likely scenario is a jump back to another animal source to humans but they look at the wuhan seafood market, they've tested a bunch of animals and so far, there is no direct evidence of whatever be meeting harry source may have been. they may not have found the back that may have been the reservoir as well so a lot of this does just seem like a bit of despotism. keep in mind thiss study was doe

in collaboration chinese government scientists and chinese government c scientists were weighingg in on the final report. >> is there any entity doing an investigation about origins, getting access to chinese officials? but not in this way of joint collaboration with the who? >> unfortunately that is not.. that's simply not happened. china from very early on in the pandemic, the chinese government trying to silence doctors, morning about what was happening, silence whistleblowers, destroy vital samples, refused to let the cdc on the groundd and did not repot what was going on properly to the international health regulation they were hired to do

and they really have been, for the past year, a true independent investigation so this will be a joe china joint study is the closest we've had but it can't be said it was truly independent and they did not get access to this sort of data not able to talk freely to the people they would need to to truly understand what was happening in the early days of the pandemic late 2019. >> you can follow more on his reporting if you go to the washington examiner's website, justice department reporter for the washington examiner. thank you very much. >> thanks for having me on. ♪♪

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