business people are notthe villains of the story, there are the heroes of the story . >> wants the rest of this program visit our website booktv.org and use the search box to look for john mackey or the title of his book conscious leadership. >> how are you, who's excited ? that was weak. i know it's like, i don't know what day it is you it's tuesday night we are really excited forthat . there you go area awesome. first and foremost iq so much to dylan and cassidy and everyone else for making this event possible. i'm so excited to be connecting with you in person and i know you are probably all feeling the exact same way you are most of you know hybrid in school? i'm very sorry. i'm glad we're here turning point making this happen. thank you to mackenzie, amy and also production team for

making this face look so awesome. let's get everyone aroundthe loss for that . [applause] >> as you guys know we are here to celebrate the launch of my book which has been such an incredible few weeks and many years in the making, writing this book going through the publication process now going on my book tour which has been an incredible last couple of weeks so we will talk a little bit about that. you're going to get some behind-the-scenes insight into new programs we have and i really want to talk to you guys about why your voice as high schoolers and as young people in our country honestly is the thing that we desperately need most when it comes to american culture and saving not just america the free world in the next few generations to come after that we will do q&a and you guys can ask me under the sun and that's about my book on the projects i do or anything else you want to talk about. if you've read my book or you've been following me you

might know about my story but a few years ago i never ever would have thought that today in march 2021 i be sitting here to talking to all of you there turning point usa headquarters working as a spokesperson for anything alone a political organization and being such an outspoken conservative. i went to college to become a doctor and my dream was to become a trauma surgeon after college and medical school so i very specifically chose colorado university in my home state of colorado,a research institution with an amazing biomedical science program . i never thought indoctrination or hatred for conservative ideas and christian roots would be such a huge part of my college experience but low and behold that defined the four years of my experience colorado state now beyond, doing what i get to do rationally.

i love the truth, do you guys feel the same way? at the entire reason i decided to study science. i love running after this clear dichotomy between what is right and what is wrong. what we can prove and what we can't prove. what i know is objectively true and what i know is some abrogated reality from someone who clearly doesn't understand how the universe works. i love that in elementary school and in high school with what you guys are learning in your biology and chemistry classes and understanding the scientific method and i want to continue doing that in graduate school and beyond doctor even in my classes like anatomy and physiology and organic chemistry by the way, if any of you have to take o can, i'm praying for you is that is the hardest class will ever take but maybe a stronger student in the end even in those classes, i was being told free speech should

not be a part of our american society, we should be rewriting the first amendment i was being taught that strong border security was racist in science classes or that anyone who voted for our former president was sort of white supremacist nazi. and of course even the objective truth that was supposed to be driving all of my curriculum in those classes, that i expected to be in my multiple-choice exam for things we talked about in essays like black and white or right and wrong, even those things were tainted by my professors little ideology . you will read about this in my book if you have a copy in my physiology class we learned that yes, there's two sets of chromosomes, ask ask and ask why only to be told in our psychology class that yes, that thing you learned about chromosomes, about that . that's outdated science. gender is actually a social construct and the state of being in your mind or in that same class we would spend months learning about every

tiny thing that has to happen in the womb for a baby to be conceived and make it through nine months of pregnancy . what beautiful little fingerprints are formed almost immediately when it's heart starts beating and how important it has a unique set of dna different from any other organic being on earth. only to be told a few months later after the exam that a baby in the womb was actually a fetus that had its own specific name and abortion or as they call it termination of a pregnancy wasn't ending a unique human life or even a unique biological life. it was just a medical procedure. i was told in my cellular biology class that i actually had to choose against a test answer option saying that god created the universe. that was the wrong answer on my test. instead i had to say that life just spontaneously corrupted from a single cell billions of years ago just because.

and it was this reality over and over again that proved to me even those classes that are supposed to be driven by an objective truth. the things we can prove and that we study over and over again in. of you and to go back and forth on, those things are even subject to the extreme indoctrination that's happening on our college campuses. i experienced all of that through my four years and now doing what i do traveling to country and visiting i school and college campuses all over america . i'm learning you guys are getting some of that to your high school experience so i want you to raise your hand if you've ever been told in your classes by your teacher gender is a socialconstruct . how about that, america was founded to be a white supremacist country. how many of you have been called by your peers or your teachers a nazi or a white

supremacist or transforming or homophobic or anti-woman or any of the other crazy names that people associate with conservativestoday ? that's not normal. it is today but didn't used to be. even when i was in high school and i graduated in 2015 we never talk about politics outside of ap us government or history and even then, my teachers never told me what their personal political beliefs were. we never debated whether or not our current president was racist or if all conservatives were all of a sudden white supremacist but this is becoming the norm asked what's been happening on college campuses for decades in the united states and it's trickling down the high schools and believe it or not middle schools and elementary school and kindergarten and preschool. have you heard about these new kids books like antiracist baby and feminist baby? your cousins and younger siblings and neighbors are

being taught at age 2 and three they as a baby are a racist or that they should be confused about what their gender identity is. that it might be different from the gender you were born with and in california next door, i should love california,it's beautiful that i can't love it . they have literally a bill in the state legislature right now it's being debated to become law would make it illegal in any store in the state of california to separate sections for little boys and littlegirls . for clothing, toys, books or anything else and all of this has started at the heart of our nation's culture war on the front lines as i like to say in this culture war that we're fighting on america's college campuses. i experienced a lot of this stuff in the classroom most of it had the craziest that happened outside the classroom that i was involved in my college community and going to a big public school gave me lots of opportunities

to haveleadership development , join really fun clubs and get to know a lot of my peers . and my admissions office job for example i was hired to become an admissions and ambassador. i gave tours to people like you and your parents and you came and visited colorado university to see if that's where you wanted to go to school. you may not know i had a formal letter written in my file for disciplinary action after i dared to address a group ofpeople as you guys . turns out that's gender exclusive and i'm not being cognizant of the fact that women in the growth where people who i don't identify as a man or a woman might feel excluded when i say you guys read in student government, over and over again we debated the most aggressive legislation possible, saying that for example the keystone pipeline and ending the project was the right thing to do and all 33,000 students on our campus leave that area we paid tens

of thousands of dollars to a lobbyist on behalf of student government to go to the state capital and lobby on behalf of every student on our campus for instituting free-speech zones or for impressing most possibly a leftist curriculum in every single department possible on campus. it was through engaging in more and more leadership development opportunities that i realizedthe goal of every university was not education at all . it's what they claimed their goal was on their website but in reality they were much more interested in operating a factory of little leftist losers that would graduate and take those crazy ideas with them the on-campus area one day in student government i had enough with the extreme leftism, enough with passing yet another bill that said all 33,000 students on the my campus were extreme leftists and i did something that would forever be what i like to call my snapping point in my college experience.

it wasn't anything all that controversial and it shouldn't have had the outcome it did i raise my hand and i said i disagree. i don't think every student on this campus believes the leftism that we talk about every week at student senate. at least one person on this campus disagrees and even if i'm the only one who thinks to thecontrary , we aren't doing our job in sitting here talking about politics. we're supposed to be creating student program that benefits the student body and create stronger students and stronger adults that can thrive in the real world and you probably would have thought the sky was falling in that student government meeting and from that moment forward i experienced what it meant to be a conservative warrior and activist surrounded by the extreme leftism of today's academic environment. instantly in front of everyone in the crowded room i was called a racist and a white supremacist and not see barbie. anti-woman, transport,

homophobic, you name it. the session went on for hours and members of my administration were sitting in the crowd and said nothing and all of this diatribe of leftist comments, these labels at the left multiple conservatives were allowed to continue for hours but the second i raise my hand to try to defend myself i was dabbled out by the person running the senate meeting saying i was too emotional and i wasn't keeping decorum. a couple weeks later i was sitting in our student government office avoiding a conversation whatsoever with all these people were convinced i was some radical crazy right-wing white supremacist on campus, i was scrolling through my social media on facebook only to find an ad popping up that was for pink and purple and sparkly and it had faces of the few people i recognized, carly fiorito whohad run for president a few years ago , ben shapiro because i saw some of his videos and tommy laren who i didn't know that

much about but someone said i looked like her once so i recognized her name and it was advertising and call the young women's leadership summit for turning point usa. i had no idea what tva usa was and i had to google who charlie kirk was which is a great story that we love to tell now but something in my me i had to attend this conference. that maybe this was the answer for how isolated and alone i was feeling in my community so i went . i dragged my younger sister with me because i didn't want to go all alone and from the moment of that first conference i fell in love with what this organization is doing every day. finally somebody got it. as a young woman in america i didn't need permission from the government or from my professors or other people in the community to do whatever i wanted to do in life. as an american i have a right to my american dream and nothing hold me back from

that as long as i have my own passion and drive and determination to make that a reality. i went back to campus fall started a chapter at colorado state university and if i thought the backlash for conservatives was bad before that i was about to find out how bad it would be. instantly i became known as the turning point girl on campus and literally was the only person setting up a table in the heart of campus and you socialism sucks buttons or advertising for our meetings.i often was yellow that and screamed every profanityunder the sun . you're the absolute worst, i can't believe you're promoting this ideology but every once in a while people would come up, look around, making sure nobody they knew was around them and they'd whisper at my table, thank you for doing this. for the first time i see another conservative in my community and i thought i was the only one that community

continue to grow as the backlash continued to grow. with our first speaker coming to campus charlie kirk in february 2018 i was informed by the police department it had been at least 10 years since a notable conservative had been invited to come speak on our campus. meanwhile bernie sanders came twice during my freshman year and we hosted known communist activist angela davis, paying for that with our student fees and former msnbc melissa harris perry who if you know anythingabout is an extreme leftist .these officers were quietly so supportive and they knew we were standing from what was right and excited to help us out they had a tough job to do for the next few weeks because of the turning point usa chapter president, i was given countless death threats, threats of violence, threats of rick from individuals i worked with in student government and i sat next to in class and even professors on campus and even older people in mycommunity .

the day before the event the one-bedroom apartment i was living in haddad's address leads as i gave an interview to our paper on behalf of the turning point chapter so all of a sudden nowhere was safe . campus wasn't safe, student government wasn't safe and where i live alone in my apartment was not a safe place to be all because i didn't do anything all that conservative . i just wanted progressive dialogue and debate, truly progressive, not what the left is advocating for ideological diversity. i wanted to talk about our differences of opinion and come together. you know, what college is supposed to be all about the red exposing yourself to new ways of thinking and maybe even changing your mind and despite all that insanity was worth it. at first event at 800 people come to see charlie kirk speak. there was lots of discussion and debate, crazy protest outside and the national guard even had to come.

the state of colorado was national guard and we had snipers on top of our computer science building is our campus was so afraid of debate and discussion and asking questions of a guy who had been labeled as a crazy white supremacist nazi but also being conservative. over the next few years we built such momentum with our chapter on campus that i didn't even recognize my own community. we help events with candace owens on an open space in the middle of campus where she change people's mind at a tabling event and we brought dennis prager to campus where 1200 students from across the state of colorado and wyoming came to hear a different perspective and a different point of view and by the time i was a senior i saw hundreds of people walking around with turning point usa stickers on their one a lot of water bottles and even maga hats on

campus. when i was a freshman no one would be caught dead doing any of that and it spoke to thepower of one person willing to be the first person . it was never easy when i did any of these things and like a lot of you i got failing grades on assignments and i had professors not want to be my mentor anymore and i lost a lot of friendships along the way. my reputation probably wasn't as stellar as how i intended it to be when i was a freshman at csu but a lot more people knew me as that turning point girl for that conservative girl then isabel brown, biomedical scientist. so i live that everysingle day but sometimes people need somebody else to be the first person . the first person to raise their hand and say something back to their teacher in class. the first person to post something on social media that everybody's thinking but nobody is willing to say and that was the most valuable lesson i learned during my undergraduate institution i colorado state university.

by the time i graduated i transitioned into a very different space in the conservative movement. obviously i didn't go to medical school my plans changed a bit after graduation today i get to do the same things i was doing on campus for turning point and i get to do it with all of you and traveling the country interacting with so manymembers of our amazing generation , i've learned so much about what it means to be generation z. su and i. born in 1997 or later in the united states so i'm 23, first year of our generation and all of you guys are in college or high school can call yourself jen z. turning point we like to say jen z is jen free and i talk about this a lot and i go on the news or when i'm on the radio or speaking to older crowd gop fundraisers and a lot of people scratch their heads wondering what that could possibly mean. when you hear the word millennial comes to mind? shout out a few words.

liberal. blue hair. give me a few more. spoiled, i like that one. what all these people said. crybabies, they throw for tantrums, their insane leftists, i think millennial's because that's all true. millennial's are the people that got down on the ground a few years ago andscreamed at the sky thinking it was literally the death of our country because their candidate of choice did not win . that's what we associate with young people in the united states and especially when i people who are our parents and grandparents age, everything every time they say youth in america they think blue haired crybaby liberal, all the things you guys just said but that's not true about generation z. that'snot true about you and me . actually, the opposite is true so if you guys haven't heard this this is an important statistic to share with people. tell your teachers, tell your

friends. jen z has actually been proven to be by several national polls and surveys to be the most conservative generation our country has seen since world war ii . that's deserves an exciting round of applause. that's a really, really big deal. not just because we are conservative but think of that dramatic transformation between millennial's istarted going to college with . the blue hair, screaming at the sky cover tantrum liberals and people like you and i area we are proud of america. they are patriotic about the place we live. we love speech and the opportunity to build your american dream into a reality and most importantly where not afraid to say. i know how scary it can be. i've lived that. i've been called everylabel the left can possibly throw at a person . you should read my dm's sometime because i do this professionally and for fun

after graduation. i got the failing grades, i lost the friends, i want very difficult road of being the only outspoken conservative in my community as that group was continuing to grow on my campus so i did it. it is scary but remember what i said about being the first person? sometimes as all other people need to create a massive movement in your high school community and your church community. when you go to your sorority or another club or another sport that you might play outside of school. and i'm often told from older people in particular that when people are age are extreme leftist, once they get to the real world after graduation they're just going to get. they will get a job, half a boss where they have toanswer to someone and paid her taxes which is not fun . your high schools are not going to teach you how to do that so ask your parents how to pay taxes . people assume that young people are going to get

beyond college, get beyond this crazy world of alternate reality that has rejected objective truth and they will wake up and be conservative at age 30, age 40, age 50. you guys have heard the saying if you're not a liberal within 20 when you have no heart but if you're not conservative by the time your 50 you have no brain and i think it's probably been true. for several decades in the united states but we just watched the results of what happens when we embrace that apathy. in 2020 and now in 2021. an entire generation of people who were left alone by the older generation because it was assumed they would be conservative when they graduated, left their college campuses and brought that insanitywith them . insanity is now the real world. we can no longer take this idea of the real world for granted because look what happened last year. those ideas have permeated the halls of congress.

literally right now our senators are debating whether or not you 16 " in a federal election area i remember what it was like to be 16 and it's an emotional roller coaster so i don't know if i would trust myself when i was 16 to choose the next president of the unitedstates . i don't know if you would trust your cells. you guysare a lot more mature than most 16-year-olds, i give you that . you are arguing to completely get rid of the voter id requirements . anybody can vote multiple times if they wantedto . they're talking about getting rid of the first amendment with some of these committees in our united states congress cousin kate speech as they defined shouldn't be free speech. these are the ideological leaders of the left. their open socialiststhey

want ideologies like what we see in cuba and venezuela to thrive in the united states . they want the government to control your entire life. these ideas have permeated corporate board rooms. look what happened with coca-cola.can someone inform me how youcan be less white because i have no idea what that looks like . if you tried to change your skin color would that be racist? seems a little sus to me. this is the ideology driving our corporations and there's a handful of corporations that drive all the information you see. what side are theycontrolled by ? the left. these ideas are even permeating ourstreets . as we literally saw the most impactful influential social group of our time, antifa and

blm inc. burn our society to the ground, rated rating businesses, destroying people's livelihood because potentially all they had ever been taught on their college campuses was that our society had to burn to the ground to make way or something that's more progressive and more equitable and the future, whateverthat's supposed to look like . socialism. that's what happens when we abandon these ideas and abandon this call to action to influence the people that are our age right now. to have these conversations like you do with turning point usa and when you raise your hand and tell your professor whatyou just said is crazy or even your teacher in high school . when you fight back against these crazy decisions from your administration to stand for the things you believe in so i told all-time young people will just grow up, they'll get differently you're too young to be talking about this stuff professionally. you've got to get more life experience. your interesting information you guys shouldshare with people when they tell you that . in 1776, there we go.

it's okay, you may not have taken ap us history yet. i want you to remember these numbers. the signatories, the people who signed the declaration of independence were not old white guys. your professor is probably telling you that we have that assumption because they were wakes, that was kind of a custom of the time but there were told and all of our pictures and our paintings and our understanding of us history james monroe when he signedthe declaration of independence was 18 years old . john marshall is 20 years old. younger than me and erin were , 20 three it alexander hamilton, 21. james madison was a 25. thomas jefferson thing is only 33 years old. in 1736. america has always depended

on young patriots, young conservatives, young people who are proud of this country getting involved in the process. and i have some good news, now and 2021is not all that hard . you don't have to write a declaration is not. either class classes organic chemistry is probably a is science classes. as the site, student like you guys doing what i do professionally you all this you turning point usa i will leave you here at hq, will the one thing. tell the truth. and what everywhere you possibly can your community. maybe it's easy raising her hand and tell your professors know you know is wrong. here the, the city backup.

maybe it's a you are the greater your present say that he. he is to do something about it. maybe it was turning the same chapter school community socialism sucks. you think these things actually but when you multiply every single one of thoseinteractions , you resemble high school that we operate in the united states every college campus presents on, what is a production on social media, pieces grounded in, a modern american revolution. tommy become countercultural to the left controlling aspects of culture from hollywood congress everything. it doesn't have to look all

that difficult but it doesn't rely on every single one of you doing a little bit of soul-searching deciding what your place and your call to action is within this culture . i had no idea what looked for me even when i started a turning point usa chapter . i still want to be a doctor through last honestly, it doesn't matter how you decide to be in the conservative movement. all that matters is you do decide to do something to the difference class. >> ..

i kid to address a lot of people all at once and that's exciting and fun and exhilarating and honestly beyond my wildest dreams of water ever thought i would be doing with my life but the people i talk to every day are not my friends necessarily. we are friendly but it don't sit next to them in class i don't go home to them. they are not my teachers teach me the subjects i learn every day in school. they don't get to know me personally but all of the people in your community do know you hear when you take the time to respectfully impatiently and excitedly and passionately explain why free speech matters, why america is the greatest country to ever exist in history of the world, like capitalism is

an answer to poverty instead of socialism that's in everybody out h will wake up and get it. we are starting to see a lot of that in our generation right now. that's why gen z is free thanks to groups like turning point usa and these events and conversations you have in your high school community every day. i want you guys to think about what happened last year. i don't know but you but 2020 was the worst year ever. we can all agree on that. if we embrace the apathy that every generation before us did 2020 2020 is going to look like kindergarten recess. i would rather have every single generation look like you and me, have pride in our community is, want to preserve this american experience and share with the world for generations to come. why this making a little video, raising her hand in class, during a show, by the writers more great stuff coming at that's the only hand i'm glad to

give you about the backdrop behind me now in the next couple of months. it can be big or small but the actions you and and i get tn this culture war will make every generation to come generation free. also, thank you, guys so much and and i would love to take any of your questions. i think were walking around with a microphone so if you have a question please just raise your hand and will come to you. it can be about anything, my book, or anything else. >> and tell me your names because i want to get to know you. >> i'm eric. i am a junior in high school and i'm 17 and my question for you is, you know, when i think about my want to go like in the future as far as like my career you

know i think about people like you or ben shapiro or charlie cook and you guys are the kind of people i look up to. what is one piece of information you could give her somebody who is trying to kind of go down that career path? >> great question and just like totally warms my heart and is very humbling that you guys think that at me because like i said honestly i was in your seat as a college student for a few years older than you but two years ago as a student having no idea what i was doing to get into this movement and how you get started, building a following for having a show or approaching these organizations and the best advice i can provide to you is just get started. obviously a lot of the stuff you figure as you go and its trial and error and you have to dare to fail a little bit but if you're willing to put your name out there and start experimenting with what your unique brand will look like in the conservative movement i guarantee you any single and you could be sitting here a year from now or two years from now. all it takes is perseverance intelligence and wanting to keep putting yourself out there and

most importantly ask for opportunities. i asked for jobs with some of these organizations i've been fortunate to work with what i was in college that didn't exist. i voted business proposals which they did not teach me inorganic chemistry for how to learn that my own and is it used the connections i built through turning point usa chapter summary of of the groups i was a part of to take that next step and move beyond what it meant to be a a student activist to dos professionally. so my store is like that. so many of the people i work with a similar situations to mike and we are very excited to reach her hand out and help the next generation achieve that. it doesn't have to be highly produced, in a really cool fancy studio but it's video production is where your heart is going start making videos in your car, not while driving, but in your driveway or in your living room and just get your voice out there and start to hone in on the subjects you are most passionate about and i guarantee you you have success in the future.

>> my name is daniel, first-year grad student. 23 years old just like you. so how did you reach out to like how the left show stereotypes of the more liberal come how would you do the reach out to women and is it myself also for me to reach out to my fellow latinos as we are also seen by the left that we have to be following within the principles and we are conservative principles, those who benefit women and affect many latinos like myself as latinos we actually are conservative without even knowing it. >> i love what you just said that a lot of that is good to be my answer to you. sorry white guys this answer probably would not apply to you but i promise you are not the evil people the left wants to say you are. there's this assumption that because you fall into a certain group as a minority presence or identity you have to be a a leftist. that's because the left has been

so good over the last few decades at dividing america in as many ways as possible and you start to see that division continued to grow over and over and over again with every alphabet letter added to lgbtq+, right? that's a new identity or maybe you like several identities and so as a trans woman of color who is disabled you are more oppressed and everyone else in society. the left is interested in identifying you as a group as your label not as an individual and no human being on earth once they identified with the group. they want to be there unique self even if they don't realize it at the time. regardless of what group for individual identity of person you're trying to reach out to whether that's a women or latino or a black american or anybody else who has a specific identity white guys included by the way you just explain to people that the left claims value individually. they claim to let you have autonomy over your own life and

what if you want to do but in reality when you look at all of these policies and when you look at how their specific identifying you as a group they are not interested in that at all. the easiest way to reach people foreign grad school or college or high school as step number one is do you want to have autonomy over your own life? you want to make your decisions for somebody else with your parents or the company or your boss telling you what you need to do everyday? they will say no, i want to make my own decisions and that is a perfect catalyst to get that conversation started. >> hello. i am -- [inaudible] i am j and the question is like new stories are getting -- [inaudible] >> i can hear you. i'll repeat your question. >> even the tiny is posting real new stories because her more ridiculous than anything they come up with. the reason i bring it up as you said that coca-cola thing.

i had no idea until you said it. so much happening. where to get your news from and what new sources do you recommend? >> i get this question all the time. this is my most frequently asked question of your week on my monday q&a on instagram or what i can speak to groups like you guys. the news is crazy and acacia have noticed the news isn't actually it is because the media today is a lot more interested in driving your interests and reporting what's happening in current events. when things that are absolutely crazy and need to be reported happening in real life, you hear nothing, , crickets from the media. for example, all of the sexual harassment allegations against governor cuomo in new york a great example that's happening right now before our eyes. we wanted to address a problem with my show so every single day for one minute we are giving you guys facts and information and data in statistics about every subject under the sun. it's not my opinion. it's not what i think about xyz

of what is charlie kirk think. it's literally just giving you a fact and place you go to learn more about that fact with hope you can take that information out into the world and use that as your metaphor and both to win america's culture war. i do all the research and writing and everything for that so i've a few places that if you're looking for that more in-depth information i would suggest you go. first and foremost avoid mainstream media always at all costs. don't even type it in regardless of what side of the aisle they can default on objective media does not exist in 2021 and that's very frustrating but we trying to fill a gap in the market for you guys. the library of congress, i know, lamest thing you've ever heard in your life but please bear with me because it actually is really helpful. has something called the congressional research service. so there's this massive part of the federal government than most people don't even know exist called the library of congress and we employ people from literally every country around the world who are experts in the

most minute subjects that have ever existed to write reports for our policymakers come for our members of carcass, people who work in executive departments and agencies in very easy to understand ways. so bullet points or maybe only ten to 15 pages long you can really get the gist of what a subject is completely in-depth from those things so check out the congressional research service and if you looking for more of the conservative leaning aspects of maybe that is not overly political the heritage foundation provides really great briefs that are two to four pages on any issue under the sun with other data statistics and sources you can jump to from there. utilize those when you have direct papers or trying to to prove somebody wrote on the subject, you'll not if any of that opinion or cometary or buys associate with those but they are hard to read such as preprepared the academic and a little stuffy. >> i am drew, an officer for the gc you capture and my question is for like when you're writing

your book what was like the most difficult aspect or like one of the biggest obstacles you had overcome when you're getting your book written are getting your book published? >> great question. racially and if you love writing. and so. raise your hand if you hate writing. most people who are young do not love writing. i was in the love writing category and a son who love writing and loves reading you'd always find my nose in in a k when i was a kid. it's challenging to take the story of your life and what you experienced and put that on paper in the book you think people are going to want to read. first and foremost anybody can buy the book literally in if you could write a book tomorrow and i encourage you go write books about the things you're passionate about and what your experiences been in this movie. i self published my book because it's very difficult for first-time authors to get connected with big publishing houses and the use company that helps me do that that many my friends have used but i on all the rights to my book. there's no big publisher or

anything and have it on amazon and barnes & noble and all that so in a you can make that happen and if i would be happy to help you. when it comes to the actual writing my best advice is don't do it chronologically and don't do it all at once. if you are passionate about something that day when particular store or how you felt about one particular incident that happened to you or happen in the world right about that for a few pages or ten pages or 20 pages and walk away. several days and think a back and you can always rearrange things and piece things together later in the end but your best writing is going to come in short blocks instead of all at once. happy to provide any of my own experience to you guys and some guidance in the process. >> we're done. >> i think that was a last question but i'll stick around for any of the once if you want. if you haven't purchased a copy of my book and you want to we have a few copies made enough or everybody but enough for some of you guys that we can sail and an happy to sign in and your books and take some pictures after the event so thank you so, so much for coming.

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