>> okay, great. this was a wonderful event. john has instilled a lot of information and short amount of time but i do recommend everyone pick up the book. it's a wonderful book and it's a great book and a stellar achievement in his career. this recording will be available for some time so please check it out. with that we will end this event and we will see you next time.

>> hello everybody. however you? who's excited? that was weak you guys. it's tuesday night that we are more excited than that, right? come on. there you go. awesome. first and foremost thank you so much to dylan and cassidy and everyone else for making this event possible. i'm so excited to be connected with you guys in person again and i know you are probably feeling exactly the same way. are most of you still on line or hybrid in-school? i'm very sorry. i'm very glad that we m are hee and thank you to mckenzie and amy and her awesome team usa production team for making looks so awesome. let's give everyone on our staff around of applause for that.

[applause] as you guys all know we are here to celebrate the launch of my book which in many years in the making. writing this book and going through the publication process and going him i'd book tour which has been an incredible last couple of weeks. we'll talk a little bit bit about that tonight we'll get some cool behind-the-scenes insight into some new projects we have going on here and then i want to talk to you guys about why your voice as high-schoolers in his young people in our country honestly is the thing that we desperately need the most when it comes to american culture and saving not just america but the free world in the next few generations to come. next we'll take you in any been asked many candidates project of theyt book or anything you wanto talk about few been reading my book and telling me you might know aboutt my story but a few years ago i never ever would

have thought that today in march of 2021 i'd be sitting here talking to all of you as a turning point usa headquarters office working as a spokesperson for anything let alone a political organization for such an outspoken conservative payment to college to become a doctor in my dream was to become a trauma surgeon after college and medical school. i very specifically chose colorado state university in my home state of colorado or research institution with an amazing biopolitical science program for college. i never thought indoctrination and hatred for conservative he is for christians and honestly objective truth would be such a huge part of my college experiencetr but lo and behold that defined the four years of my experience at colorado state and now beyond doing what i do professionally for team usa. i love the truth. do you guys feel the same why? that the entire reason i've

decided to study science to begin with. ii love running after this clear dichotomy between what is right and what is wrong and what we can prove away can't prove. what i know is true and what i know some fabricated reality from someone who does understand how the universe works. i love that an alba driscoll landed high school but what you guys are learning in biology and chemistry classes in understanding the scientific methods. i wanted to continue doing that in college and graduate school and beyond professionally as a doctor but in my classes like anatomy and physiology and organic chemistry and by the way if any of you have to take those in college and praying for you now because it's the hardest class you ever taken a deadly tested my patience but it made me smarter in the end. ineven those classes i was being told that free speech should not he a part of our american society and that we should be rewriting the firstam amendment provides being taught strong border security was racist in

science classes or anyone who voted for former president was some sort of white supremacist and of course even the objective truth that was supposed to be driving all of my cricket women those classes things that i expected to my multiple choice exams are things t we talk about in essays were black and white and right and wrong and even those things were tainted by my professor'sy political ideolog. you guys can read about this in my book if you have a copy but example in my physiology class we learned there were two sets of chromosomes only the to be told a few months later in ourur psychology class that thing you learned about chromosomes forget about that atyes, that thing you about chromosomes, about that . that's outdated science. gender is actually a social construct and the state of being in your mind or in that same class we would spend months learning about every tiny thing that has to happen in the womb for a baby to be

conceived and make it through nine months of pregnancy . what beautiful little fingerprints are formed almost immediately when it's heart starts beating and how important it has a unique set of dna different from any other organic being on earth. only to be told a few months later after the exam that a baby in the womb was actually a fetus that had its own specific name and abortion or as they call it termination of a pregnancy wasn't ending a unique human life or even a unique biological life. it was just a medical procedure. i was told in my cellular biology class that i actually had to choose against a test answer option saying that god created the universe. that was the wrong answer on my test. instead i had to say that life just spontaneously corrupted from a single cell billions of years ago just because. and it was this reality over and over again that proved to me even those classes that

are supposed to be driven by an objective truth. the things we can prove and that we study over and over again in. of you and to go back and forth on, those things are even subject to the extreme indoctrination that's happening on our college campuses. i experienced all of that through my four years and now doing what i do traveling to country and visiting i school and college campuses all over america . i'm learning you guys are getting some of that to your high school experience so i want you to raise your hand if you've ever been told in your classes by your teacher gender is a socialconstruct . how about that, america was founded to be a white supremacist country. how many of you have been called by your peers or your teachers a nazi or a white supremacist or transforming or homophobic or anti-woman or any of the other crazy

names that people associate with conservativestoday ? that's not normal. it is today but didn't used to be. even when i was in high school and i graduated in 2015 we never talk about politics outside of ap us government or history and even then, my teachers never told me what their personal political beliefs were. we never debated whether or not our current president was racist or if all conservatives were all of a sudden white supremacist but this is becoming the norm asked what's been happening on college campuses for decades in the united states and it's trickling down the high schools and believe it or not middle schools and elementary school and kindergarten and preschool. have you heard about these new kids books like antiracist baby and feminist baby? your cousins and younger siblings and neighbors are being taught at age 2 and three they as a baby are a racist or that they should be confused about what their

gender identity is. that it might be different from the gender you were born with and in california next door, i should love california,it's beautiful that i can't love it . they have literally a bill in the state legislature right now it's being debated to become law would make it illegal in any store in the state of california to separate sections for little boys and littlegirls . for clothing, toys, books or anything else and all of this has started at the heart of our nation's culture war on the front lines as i like to say in this culture war that we're fighting on america's college campuses. i experienced a lot of this stuff in the classroom most of it had the craziest that happened outside the classroom that i was involved in my college community and going to a big public school gave me lots of opportunities to haveleadership development , join really fun clubs and get to know a lot of my peers

. and my admissions office job for example i was hired to become an admissions and ambassador. i gave tours to people like you and your parents and you came and visited colorado university to see if that's where you wanted to go to school. you may not know i had a formal letter written in my file for disciplinary action after i dared to address a group ofpeople as you guys . turns out that's gender exclusive and i'm not being cognizant of the fact that women in the growth where people who i don't identify as a man or a woman might feel excluded when i say you guys read in student government, over and over again we debated the most aggressive legislation possible, saying that for example the keystone pipeline and ending the project was the right thing to do and all 33,000 students on our campus leave that area we paid tens of thousands of dollars to a lobbyist on behalf of student government to go to the state

capital and lobby on behalf of every student on our campus for instituting free-speech zones or for impressing most possibly a leftist curriculum in every single department possible on campus. it was through engaging in more and more leadership development opportunities that i realizedthe goal of every university was not education at all . it's what they claimed their goal was on their website but in reality they were much more interested in operating a factory of little leftist losers that would graduate and take those crazy ideas with them the on-campus area one day in student government i had enough with the extreme leftism, enough with passing yet another bill that said all 33,000 students on the my campus were extreme leftists and i did something that would forever be what i like to call my snapping point in my college experience. it wasn't anything all that controversial and it shouldn't have had the outcome it did i raise my

hand and i said i disagree. i don't think every student on this campus believes the leftism that we talk about every week at student senate. at least one person on this campus disagrees and even if i'm the only one who thinks to thecontrary , we aren't doing our job in sitting here talking about politics. we're supposed to be creating student program that benefits the student body and create stronger students and stronger adults that can thrive in the real world and you probably would have thought the sky was falling in that student government meeting and from that moment forward i experienced what it meant to be a conservative warrior and activist surrounded by the extreme leftism of today's academic environment. instantly in front of everyone in the crowded room i was called a racist and a white supremacist and not see barbie. anti-woman, transport, homophobic, you name it.

the session went on for hours and members of my administration were sitting in the crowd and said nothing and all of this diatribe of leftist comments, these labels at the left multiple conservatives were allowed to continue for hours but the second i raise my hand to try to defend myself i was dabbled out by the person running the senate meeting saying i was too emotional and i wasn't keeping decorum. a couple weeks later i was sitting in our student government office avoiding a conversation whatsoever with all these people were convinced i was some radical crazy right-wing white supremacist on campus, i was scrolling through my social media on facebook only to find an ad popping up that was for pink and purple and sparkly and it had faces of the few people i recognized, carly fiorito whohad run for president a few years ago , ben shapiro because i saw some of his videos and tommy laren who i didn't know that much about but someone said i looked like her once so i recognized her name and it was advertising and call the

young women's leadership summit for turning point usa. i had no idea what tva usa was and i had to google who charlie kirk was which is a great story that we love to tell now but something in my me i had to attend this conference. that maybe this was the answer for how isolated and alone i was feeling in my community so i went . i dragged my younger sister with me because i didn't want to go all alone and from the moment of that first conference i fell in love with what this organization is doing every day. finally somebody got it. as a young woman in america i didn't need permission from the government or from my professors or other people in the community to do whatever i wanted to do in life. as an american i have a right to my american dream and nothing hold me back from that as long as i have my own passion and drive and determination to make that a reality.

i went back to campus fall started a chapter at colorado state university and if i thought the backlash for conservatives was bad before that i was about to find out how bad it would be. instantly i became known as the turning point girl on campus and literally was the only person setting up a table in the heart of campus and you socialism sucks buttons or advertising for our meetings.i often was yellow that and screamed every profanityunder the sun . you're the absolute worst, i can't believe you're promoting this ideology but every once in a while people would come up, look around, making sure nobody they knew was around them and they'd whisper at my table, thank you for doing this. for the first time i see another conservative in my community and i thought i was the only one that community co .. charlie kirk in

february 2018 i was informed by the police department it had been at least 10 years since a notable conservative had been invited to come speak on our campus. meanwhile bernie sanders came twice during my freshman year and we hosted known communist activist angela davis, paying for that with our student fees and former msnbc melissa harris perry who activist angela davis, and melissa harris perry. and extreme leftist. these police officers were so supportive of our event they knew we were standing for what was right on campus and excited to help us out but they had a tough job because as the turning point usa chapter president i was given countless death threats, threats of violence, threats of rape and individuals i worked with in student government and even professors and older people in the community. the day before the event the

1-bedroom apartment i was living and had it address leaked online because i gave an interview on behalf of turning point usa chapter. all of a sudden nowhere was safe. campus wasn't safe, student government office wasn't safe, even where i lived alone in my apartment wasn't a safe place to be all because i didn't do anything that conservative. i just wanted progressive dialogue and debate, truly progressive by the way, not like the left is advocating for about ideological diversity. i wanted to talk about differences of opinion and bridge those divide and come together. what college is supposed to be about, challenging your point, exposing yourself to new ways of thinking, maybe even changing your mind. despite all that insanity it was absolutely worth it. the first event had 800 people to see charlie kirk, there was a lot of discussion and debate, crazy protests outside as i am sure you can imagine, the

national guard even had to come and snipers on top of our computer science building because our campus was so afraid of debate and discussion and asking questions of a guy who had been labeled as a crazy white supremacist nazi also being conservative. over the next few years we built such momentum with our turning point usa chapter on campus, couldn't even recognize my own community anymore. we all events with candace owens, and open space in a campus where she changed people's minds, we brought dennis prager to campus, 1200 students from across the state of colorado and wyoming, came to your different perspective and a different point of view. by the time i was a senior i saw hundreds of people walking around with turning point usa stickers on their water bottle, social conservative socialism sucks pins and don't tread on me t-shirts on campus. when i was a freshman no one would become did doing any of

that and it spoke to the power of one person willing to be the first person. it was never easy when i did any of these things and like a lot of you i got failing grades on assignments and had professors not want to be my mentor and lost a lot of friendships, my reputation probably wasn't as stellar as i intended to be when i was a freshman by the time i graduated a lot more people knew me as that turning point girl or that conservative girl than isabel brown. i live that every single day but sometimes people need somebody else to be the first person to raise their hand, to say something to their teacher in class, the first person to post something on social media everybody is thinking but nobody is willing to say and that was the most arguable lesson i've learned in my time as an undergraduate institution at colorado state university.

by the time i graduated i transitioned into a different space in the conservative movement. i didn't go to medical school, it changed after graduation but i get to do the same things are doing on campus and do it with all of you and traveling the country, interacting with so many members of our amazing generation i learned so much about what it means to be generation the, born in 1997 or later in the united states, the first year of the generation, all of you guys who were currently in college or high school call yourselves jen the blue to turning point usa we like to say jen z is jen free, i talk about this a lot when i'm on the radio or speaking to older crowd that gop fundraisers or state conventions and a lot of people scratch their heads wondering what that could mean. when you hear the word millennial what comes to mind?

shout out a few words? liberal, blue haired, frail, what else? give me a few more. week, spoiled, i like that one. yes. what all these people said, crybabies, they throw temper tantrums, insane leftist, i think socialist when i think colonial because that is all true. millennials are the people who got down on the ground a few years ago and screamed at the sky thinking it was the death of our country because their candidate of choice did not win. that is what we associate with young people in the united states and especially when i speak to people who are our parents and grandparents age every time they think use in america, blue haired crybaby liberal, all the things you guys just said but that is not true about generation the, that is not true about you and me. actually the opposite is true. if you haven't heard this this is an important statistic to share with people, tell your teachers, tell your friends,

jen the has been proven to be by several national polls and surveys to be the most conservative generation our country has seen since world war ii. that deserves some exciting applause. that is a really big deal. not just because we are conservative but think of that dramatic transformation between millennials who i started going to college with, blue haired scream at the sky crybaby liberals and people like you and i who are proud of america, patriotic about the place we live, we love free speech and the opportunity to build your american dream into a reality, and we are not afraid to say it. i know how scary it can be. i have been called it relabel the left could possibly throw a human being. you should read my dm sometimes because i do this professionally and for fun

after graduation. my experience as a student at csu i got the failing grades, lost friends, walked to the difficult road of being the only outspoken conservative in my community, the group for turning point continuing to grow on campus. it is scary. remember what i said about being the first person? that is all other people need to create a massive movement in your high school community, your church community when you go to college or college community, sorority or another club you are part of or sport you might play outside of school. i'm told by older people in particular that when people are h.r. extreme leftists once they get to the real world after graduation they're going to get it, pay their taxes, and high schools won't teach you to do that. it is not a thing to look forward to. young people are going to get

beyond college, get beyond this crazy world of alternate reality that reacted to objective truth and wake up and be conservative at age 30, age 40, age 50, you have probably heard if you are not a liberal when you're 20 you have no heart but if you are not a conservative by the time your 50 then you have no brain and i think that has probably been true for several decades in the united states but we just watched the result of what happens when we embrace that apathy. in 2020 and now in 2021. an entire generation of people who were left alone by older generations because it was assumed they would be conservative when they graduated lest their college campuses, brought that insanity with them. that insanity is the real world so we can no longer take this idea of the real world for granted because look what

happened last year, those ideas have permeated the halls of congress literally right now our us senators are debating whether or not you at 16 can vote in a federal election. i remember what it was like to be 16. it is an emotional roller coaster so i don't know that i would trust myself when i was 16 to choose the next president of the united states, right? i don't know if you would trust yourselves, some of you are probably more mature than most 16-year-olds. people arguing to get rid of voter id requirement to vote. anybody can vote multiple times probably if they want to get away with that. they are talking about completely getting rid of the first amendment with some of these committees in the united states congress because hate speech as they do fine it shouldn't be free-speech. these are the ideological leaders of the political left. they are open socialist, they want ideologies like we see in cuba, venezuela and north korea to thrive in the united states, they want the government to control their entire life.

use permit corporate board rooms. it happened with coca-cola last week. someone informing how you can be less white? i have no idea what that looks like. if you really try to change your skin color what -- wouldn't that be racist? seems a little -- that is my own two sense on the issue. this is the ideology driving our corporations and there's a handful of corporations the drive all of the information you see. what side are they controlled by? the left. these ideas are even permeating our streets in america as we literally saw the most impactful influential social groups of our time, antifa and blm burn our society to the ground last year, literally, sitting church is on fire, rating businesses, destroying people's livelihoods because potentially all they had ever

been taught on their college campuses was that our society had to burn to the ground to make way for something more progressive and more equitable and the future, whatever that is supposed to look like with socialism. that is what happens when we abandon these ideas and this call to action to influence the people who are our age to have these conversations like you do a turning point usa when you have blood meetings, when you raise your hand and tell your professor know, what you just it is crazy or your teacher in high school, when you fight back against some of these crazy decisions from your administration to stand for the things that you believe in so i get told all the time, young people will just grow up and you are too young at 23 to be talking about this stuff professionally, you got to get more life experience. here is some interesting information you should share with people. when they tell you that. in 1776, what document was signed and written?

there we go. declaration of independence, you may not have taken ap us history yet. i want you to remember these numbers, the signatories who signed the declaration of independence were not old white guys was your professor is probably tell you that we have that assumption because they wear white wigs, that was the custom of the time so they look old in all our pictures and paintings and our understanding of us history but james monroe when he signed the declaration of independence was 18 years old. john marshall was 20 years old, younger than me. aaron burr, 20. alexander hamilton, 21. james madison was only 25. thomas jefferson who wrote the whole thing was only 33 years old in 1776.

america has always depended on young patriots, young conservatives, young people who are proud of this country getting involved in the process and i have some good news for you, in 2021 it is not that hard, you don't have to write the declaration of independence and take that weight off your shoulders and i can tell you it is not rocket science. i've never take a rocket science class but i have taken a lot of other classes and i would argue that organic chemistry is probably a little difficult than some rocket science classes and having been there is a science student having been a student like you guys and doing what i do professionally i can tell you that all of this that we do a turning point usa even at the highest level of what we do at hq boils down to one thing, tell the truth in whatever way you possibly can to your community. maybe it is as easy as raising

your hand into your professor know or your teacher know, that is wrong and here is the fact behind it, here's the statistics i can back that up with. sitting in your living room making a 30-second video about something crazier principal said that we could everyone is too afraid to say but everybody is honestly thinking it to give someone else the courage to do something about it. maybe starting a turning point usa chapter in your high school community and handing somebody of socialism something. you may not think these tiny things one by one actually make a huge difference but when you multiply every single one of those interactions by every single one of you and every single high school we operate in in the united states and every single college campus we have a presence on every time a person watches a turning point usa production on social media every time you have these discussions with your family around the dinner table, that is the modern american revolution, that is how you become countercultural to the left because they are controlling every aspect of culture from hollywood to congress and everything in between.

it doesn't have to look that difficult but it does rely on every single one of you doing soul-searching and deciding what your place and your call to action is within this culture war. i had no idea what that looks like even when i started a turning point usa chapter. i still thought i was going to be a doctor through my last a mister of college but i learned honestly it doesn't matter how you decide to make a difference in the conservative movement. all that matters is you decide to do something to make a difference in the conservative movement and there's a big secret i've been trying to let you in on, fake it until you make it if you have no idea what you are doing. a couple years ago i knew nothing about video production. i didn't know how these wireless microphones worked. i didn't know what it meant to be a spokesperson for an organizational go on national tv several times a week to talk about jen the being jen free. as i went, i am of the opinion now doing what i do from hq

every day, coming from there you guys are sitting, as campus activist at turning usa, it is a lot more impactful than what i do every day. ip address a lot of people at once and that is fun and exhilarating and beyond my wildest dreams that i thought i was doing with my life. the people i talk to every day are not my friends necessarily, they were friendly but i don't sit next to them in class. i don't go home to them. they are not my teachers teaching me the subjects that i learn every day in school. don't get to know me personally but all the people in your community do know you. when you take time to respectfully and patiently and excitedly and passionately explain why free-speech matters, why america is the

greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world, why capitalism is the answer to poverty instead of socialism, that is when everybody our age will wake up and get it. we are seeing a lot of that in our generation right now. that is why jen the is already jen free thanks to groups like turning point usa and the events we do in the conversations you have in your high school community every day but i want to remember and i you guys to think about what happened last year. for 2020 was the worst year ever, we can all agree on that but if we embrace the apathy that every generation before us did, 2020 looks like kindergarten recess. every generation looks like you and me have pride in our communities, want to preserve the american experience and share it with the world for generations to come. rather than making a little video, raising your hand in class, writing a book, doing a show at turning point usa, more great stuff coming and the only hint i can give about the backdrop behind me in the next couple months.

it can be big or small but the actions you and i taken this culture war, will make every generation to come generation free. awesome. thank you guys so much and i would like to take any of your questions. >> we are walking around with the microphone. if you have a question please raise your hand and we will come to you and it can be about anything. my book come my show at turning point freedom or anything else. there was one in the back. tell me your name because i want to get to know you. >> i am eric. i am a junior in high school, i am 17 and my question for you is when i think about where i want to go in the future as far

as my career i think about people like you or ben schapiro or charlie kirk and you are the kind of people i look up to. what is one piece of information you could give for somebody who is trying to go down that career path? >> great question, totally warms my heart and very humbling that you think that of me because like i said i was in your seat as a college student, a few years older than you between 2 years ago as a student having no idea what i was doing to get into this movement and how you get started building the following are having a show or approaching an organization and the best advice that i can provide to you is just get started. a lot of the stuff you figure out as you go and it is trial and error and you have to dare to fail a little bit but if you are willing to put your name out and start experimenting with what your unique brand will look like in the conservative movement i guarantee you any single one of you could be sitting here a year from now or two years from now, it takes perseverance and

willingness to succeed putting yourself out there and ask for opportunities. i actually asked for jobs with some of these organizations and fortunate to work with in college but didn't exist. i business proposals, and and and take the next step. my stories like that, so many other people i work with have similar situations to mind and we are very excited to reach our hands down and help the next generation achieve that. it doesn't have to be highly produced or a fancy studio in front of a wall like this. if you production is where your heart is going, start making videos in your car, not while driving please but like gray and allen does in his driveway or in your living room and get your voice out there and hone in on the subjects you are most passionate about and i guarantee you you will have

success in the future. >> my name is daniel, first year grad student 23 years old just like you. so how do you reach out, the stereotypes is women being more liberal, how do you do the reach out to a woman and say it for myself also to reach out to my fellow latinos, the we have to be following liberal principles and conservative principles that benefit women and latinos like myself, we are conservative without knowing it. >> i love what you just said and a lot of that is my answer to you, sorry, white guys, this answer won't applies you but i promise you are not the evil people the left loves to say you are. there is this assumption that because you fall into a certain group as a minority or as a certain identity you have to be a leftist and that is because

the left has been so good over the past few decades that dividing america in as many ways as possible and you are seeing that division continue to grow over and over and over again with every alphabet letter added to lgbt q plus. that's a new identity all the time where maybe you have several identities and as they trends woman of color who is disabled you are actually more oppressed than everybody else in society. the left is interested in identifying you as a group, as your label, not as an individual and no human being on earth wants to be identified with a group. they want to be there unique self. regardless of what group or individual identity or person you reach out to whether that was a woman or latino or black american or anybody else with a specific identity, you just explain to people that the left claims to value individuality, they claim to let you have

autonomy over your life and do whatever you want to do but in reality when you look at all the policies and how they are specifically identifying you as a group they are not interested in that all. the easiest way to reach people in grad school or college or high school, step number one, do you want autonomy over your life? do you want to make your own decisions as you want somebody else whether it is your parents or the government order boss telling you what you need to do every day? they of course are going to say no, i want to make my own decisions and that is a perfect panelist to get the conversation started. >> hello. >> i can hear you. >> my question, news stories are getting - they are getting ridiculous now where even the onion is posting real news stories because they are more ridiculous than anything they can come up with. the reason i bring it up is the coca-cola thing, had no idea that happened until you said it and so much happening now.

what news sources do you recommend? >> i get this question all the time. this is my most frequently asked question every week on my monday q and a on instagram or speak to groups like you guys, the news is crazy. the news isn't actually the news because the media today is more interested in driving your interests than reporting what is actually happening in current events. when things that are absolutely crazy and need to be reported are happening in real life - the media. all the sexual harassment allegations against governor cuomo in new york, great example that is happening right now before our eyes. we wanted to address that problem with my show turning point usa freedom -- every single day for one minute we are giving you guys facts and information and data and statistics about every subject under the sun. it is not my opinion, not what

does isabel brown think or charlie kirk thinks about xyz or turning point usa but just giving you a fact and the place you can go to learn more about that fact with the hope that you can take that information into the world and use that as your metaphorical ammo to win america's culture war. i do all the research and the writing of this gift and everything so i have a few places if you are looking for the more "in depth" information i suggest you go. avoid mainstream media always at all costs, don't even type it in regardless what side of the aisle he tends to fall on. objective media does not exist in 2021. that is very frustrating but we are trying to fill that gap for you guys. the library of congress, craziest you ever heard in your life so please bear with me because it is helpful has something called the congressional research service. there is a massive part of the federal government most people don't know exists, library of congress and we employ people from literally every country

around the world who are experts in the most minute subjects that have ever existed to write reports for our policymakers, members of congress and people who work in executive department and agencies and very easy to understand ways. bullet points that are 10 to 15 pages long, you can get the just of what the subject is "in depth" from those things. check out crs, congressional research service, looking for a more conservative leaning aspect, that is not overtly political, the heritage foundation provides great briefs that are 2 to 4 pages on any issue under the sun with other data statistics that you can jump to for there. utilize those when you write papers approve somebody wrong are subject you are not going to have any opinion or commentary or bias associated with those. be prepared, they are academic. >> i am drew, officer for the dcu chapter and my question is when you were writing the book what was the most difficult

aspect or one of the biggest obstacles you had to overcome when getting your book written or published? >> great question. raise your hand if you love writing. handful. raise your hand if you hate writing. most people who are young do not love writing. i was in the love writing category and even as somebody who loves writing and loves reading, you would always find my nose in a book when i was a kid it is really challenging to take the story of your life and what you experienced and put that on paper in a book that you think people are actually going to want to read. anybody can write a book, literally and if you could write a book tomorrow and i encourage you to go write books about the things you are passionate about and your experiences in this, i self published my book because it is difficult for first-time authors to get connected with big publishing houses and i used a company that helped me do that but my friends in the movement of use too but i own all the rights to my books, there is no publisher, and any

of that happens with that process. my best advice is don't do it chronologically or all at once. if you are passionate about something, one particular story or one particular instance that happened in the world, right about that for a few pages were 20 pages and walk away, several days and come back and you can rearrange later in the end. your best rating will come in short blocks instead of all at once. happy to provide my own experience to you guys. i think that was our last question, and we have a few copies maybe not for everybody but enough for some of you that you can sell. it is appreciative of our you guys.

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