word, thank you for recognizing not only this moment of urgency but the sustainable ways, start thinking new about how we can we imagine the future and not go back to the 19th century that truly dominate the future and your infrastructure program is a big part about these things are connected and i want to say we respect and appreciate your leadership and we are grateful and humble you took the time today to be with all of us. >> we want to take some time however to tell you about our survey that's come up 2000, there has been a change in administration we've asked historians and professional observers of the presidency to participate in a survey of presidential leadership. this morning we are releasing results of our fourth survey of presidential leadership in here to tell us more about it coordinator, rachel, good morning, thank you for joining us. let's start with what exactly is etthis survey of presidential

leadership? >> is started from a series we did in 1999di out the american presidents where we did an in-depth program for a year on each of the president and their wives and administration and a lot of great reviews so we want to to go about program from there's a lot of high interest so we decided to come up with this historian survey marie reached out to historians and professionals in the presidency from around the country and askedsi them to rate presidents ten different characteristics so those ten leadership characteristics are public persuasion, crisis leadership, economic management, moral authority, internationaler relations, administrative skills, relations with congress among vision and setting agenda, pursued equal justice for all and performance within the context of the time.

then we have a ranking of all the presidents within each of the ten leadership characteristics and overall ranking. i think it is important to note that this is not a scientific survey or ten leadership characteristics have remained the same over the years, participants have changed. >> tell us how often c-span conducts the survey. >> we conduct the survey each time there's a change in the administration. first wasn't 2000 soon after president clinton office and then again in 2009, 2017 and this is our fourth survey in 2021. eachy. time we have had increasd participation from the historians both in terms of the sheer number and diverse views. we've had 142 different historians and observers of the presidency participate. >> ultimately, what is the goal of the survey? why do you conduct it? >> a few things, one is that we understand it takes time once a present left office to get and full assessment of the presidency but we do conduct the

survey soon after and administration but we have a benchmark, we have a window int what tooth the historians are thinking soon after and administration and as we continue to conduct surveys, we can see what change happened and we understand there is high interest in presidential history and this is a way to start a conversation and get peopleo talking about it, get them thinking about what makes for a good president thinking about those individual leadership characteristics and think about the president you like and thin did a good job and see how you rank them in specific characteristics so it is to start a conversation. >> and outgoing administration, credit former president trump mike in this survey? marquis was his first time in his range mike temp this year end his debut at number 41 overall. you can see where he ranks in all the tenth different leadership characteristics here, his highest one coming in public persuasion and economic managementst. >> if that is the case, what

about other recent presidents, where do they fall? >> the president that made their debut soon after their administrations, president clinton in his first year he came in at number 21 he has moved up to number 19 here in the fourthfo survey george bushn 2009, he came in at number 36 and he has moved up 7.2 number 29 this year in 2221 president obama has come into the top ten for the first time meeting at number ten, that's up to extracts from his debut year four years ago and thank you see donald trump again coming in at number 41 in his debut here.co >> is has content and people are interested in finding more than what we have been able to share, where can they go? >> we have a new website dedicated just to this survey, c-span.org/president survey

2021. they can select anyc- presidento see how they did in each category and you can look at each individual leadership characteristic and see how the rankings came out with those. he was the other step 142 historians who participated all results are anonymous but we are sharing their names and who participated in we have a gallery of insight somewhere affects similar to what we just showed you, you can find us share that on your own social media find on the site serving affect project coordinator, thank you for your time thiss morning. >> i like to say, we have fourth survey advisors coming on to the journal sunday morning, richard norton smith, lived for two hours sunday morning on the fourth of july 8:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. and they will call more in-depth into the survey

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