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at the american revolution. so thank you. and the historical society and hopefully we will see you in person seven printed. john: okay i look forward to that as well and i think it was again for having me. >> tonight i'm on tv, on "c-span2", look at policing starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern conversation with former new york city police commissioner, bill broughton, then the author of the book, america on fire, mental history of police violence and rebellion since the 1960s. in a conversation it with brooks, a law professor who became a police officer in her 40s read a book tv, on "c-span2". tonight starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern. wednesday night, on book tv, on "c-span2", space travel, we start with the book, virgin galactic's in the making of a modern astronaut.
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in the author of liftoff, elon musk in the desperate early days launched space x and the conversation on the book, shuttle houston, my life in the center seat a mission control. tv starts wednesday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on "c-span2". ... ... it doesn't get any newer than this, it's an exciting book, the indispensable's. i do want to mention one upcoming programs, richard stbernstein in his new book, the education of john adams. it's an exciting event,, please consider joining us wednesday
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night. live from the reading room here in mount vernon, the official launch of patrick o'donnell's new book the indispensable's subtitle diverse marine to shape the country and maybe in broke washington across the delaware. we have a number of autographed copies going out to people who submitted questions, who got exciting questions wind up. let us know what you want to know from patrick and we can ask those questions tonight. this is a great book, i couldn't put it back down this past week. they called it a novel like account which you are about to hear from patrick. it moves very quickly, you learn more about gunpowder than you
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think you might. it's an exciting story and a lot to hear. to tell you a little bit more about patrick, he won't tell you this himself, he's a bus going military historian, expert on the unit, this is his second book in the revolutionary war period. the first one, washington's immortal, the untoward story changing the course ofal the revolution brought him down this path and then came to the research to work on this book you are about to hear about. he's received awards for his book, the second world war broke, the 12th book, exciting work across the generation. he's an important work with soldiers in combat in iraq, providing assaulting consulting work for dozens of documents and most important, he worked on his
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book here at mount vernon as a fellow here at thear washington library. i am so excited to welcome you to this talk and introduce you to patrick o'donnell. >> thank you so much for that introduction and it's good to come home. so much ofuc my research for the indispensable's was here at this library where i rebuilt the marble regiment from the ground up using pension files diary, z etc. to re-create this regiment story which is extraordinary. every book i've ever written has been a journey, each one has found me in one way or another and this is no exception, but before i embark upon a book i always ask a basic question, who
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cares? what does it matter? littering library, our country wouldn't be her had it not been for these individuals i wrote about, men and women in the indispensable's. they staged our country multiple rytimes, the found the navy and saved washington's army on numerous occasions which i'm going to talk about tonight. the book is also a window into current events about a virus that divides americans politically, this information from there's a lot of things in this book that resonatee with people but let me take you back right now into one of the most crucial periods in the american revolution, the american gun, the battle of brooklyn just waged in america had lost graphic. washington's army was defeated. the managers wrote called
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washington's immortal and it's more precious in our history than a hundred other. washington's army was able to retreat into fortification in brooklyn heights. the produce army which surrounded the american army there was about to come up the east river and the lines were peeping forward, it was a perilous time, a time in history for all could be lost. washington had a decision to make. was he going to retreat or fight? washington wisely decided to retreat and this is a time when all could be lost. the entire army could be surrounded and destroyed and everything rested upon the shoulders of the men in the book written about. washington decided to retreat, he had to cross a mile-long river, east river and let me
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take you back in time to august 29, 30th, a massive eastern cap health of both armies two days straight after the portal battle of brooklyn. they had been creeping forward into the american position at brooklyn heights and house army was closer and closer to annihilating the american army. washington decides to escape, john carver and marble heckman gather all the folks in manhattan and they manned the boats. the army across the east river this is not in east easy task. the wind is not cooperating and on top of that, a loyalist sees what's happening sent and enslaved individual in her household trying to inform how the americans are escaping.
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this individual waters upon soldiers to speak german and they are notnd able to understad what he's trying to say but the americans are evacuating. they don't even know until a couple of hours before that he had to pull off the greatest retreat in american history and they manned the boat and as they did, the wind doesn't cooperate the ties are and think but there's something special about these men. they worked together for years, fishing the grant bank, the most treacherous in the world which makes them unique, there arguably the first diverse regiment in the u.s.. army. here it's african-americans, native americans, hispanic americans all working together and they work together in grand
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bay, a situation where race didn't matter life and death situations where literally the weather kill people and they had to relock high rely upon one another is a relied each other that night to pull off the greatest retreat in history as they rode across the river. the wind wasn't working, th entire evacuation was about to be hauled off but the person delivering the message to washington couldn't find washington that night. they still went and they were pushed across and against all odds, theyga conducted their retreat. at that time from the wind changed in favor of america and his men were able to transport the army across the east river and in one case, almost a dozen
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times against all odds and as don was coming, a miraculous fog appeared in continued to screen the movement of the army as it was crossing. john carver, marble heckman from massachusettss delivered the ary safely. nearly 10000 men delivered to safety. this is one reason which makes them indispensable, they save the army that time but it's one of many situations and literally two weeks later, the british went again the bank, it is the marble headers that make a stand while the rest of the army retreats, it appears washington is catatonic as the british are attacking, he and his horse are
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frozen practically in time, somebody has to literally come bring him out of the bottle as the british advance toward him hundreds of yards away. marble headers make the stand as the army melts away. army melts away, marble headers make the desperate stand and they are able to reform at the battle and ferris a small victory and it's the marble headers involved in interesting operations during this time where they conduct raids against the british line, marble headers are a precursor to special operations unit we know today. they are doingni things that are special and extraordinary and launch biochips against the british prior to the battle of brooklyn where they nearly take out was the equivalent of british battleship, they launch raids and perform what's known as the guard. commander-in-chief guard where
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the lifeguard and the lifeguard is an extraordinary unit, a precursor to the secret service in many ways, washington's handpickedn men who guard him d it's not a small group of men. it mushrooms up to 200 men these men are involved in operations, battles but they also guard papers, they act as his aide to camp in many ways, it is a marble header that leaves the unit and shapes it. it is an extraordinary story in itself but not only do they protect the unit but there is a bit of mystery involved. prior to the battle of brooklyn there several members of the guard that have leaning toward the british, loyalties if you will. they are lured into a plot to assassinat washington and fat
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relatively unknown story is told in the indispensable's as well. they uncover the plot the guard protects washington and they take out their own. the first american executed is a member of the guard but that is a fascinating story as the book moves forward, the indispensable's that are washington's elite force and many of the battles in new york and the britishbr once again lad up in the northern part of manhattan, bronx points and it appears the marble headers and an assortment of other unit
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basically repel and amphibious invasion from the greatest navy of the world at the time, the royal navy which is an extraordinary feat in and of itself, they went aam little further up the coast and it is your army or the brigade which includes the marblehead regiment once again saves the army and they fight close to the landing butt they fall back and it's a collapsible defense, and emerging part of the american way of war which is unique and ever-changing and still ever-changing to this day but we were not using conventional tactics of european armies, we are rolling back from a fixed vision, in this case they were falling back behind stone wall
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and allowing the british to advance but still taking down many of their number standards here at the indispensable's help save the washington's army again and from this on, you enter port washington where many americans are captured, nearly 3000 americans including marble headersin captured early on that are basically wounded but recovery in fort washington and the captured by the british and so much of this book consists of application files that are in many ways unknown oral histories of the american revolution if you were lucky enough toe surve the american revolution, phuket
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apply for pension application in 1820 and you'd go to a local courthouse and swear under oath what you saw and did and here are some of the great oral history account of what happened during the war and it's in their own words and the indispensable's are filled with these unknown stories from unknown americans. it's a boots on the ground band of brothers, very much a cinematic telling of the war. it has over 1000 in notes from all of the words in the book from the americans are true statements from their account not something that i made up but within these accounts, within
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the story is what happened and what they saw and did it it's compelling in many cases and as we enter november and december, this is the darkest days, some of the darkest days of america. things a are politically collapsing, the military victories the british army has obtained from brooklyn, fort washington and otheror victories caused a swing within the u.s. where people are abandoning the cause. new jersey people are signing oath of allegiance to the crown, congressman, people who signed the declaration of independence are nowdi jumping sides, things are changing. the investments within the regiments are set to expire and they are expiring. washington's army is melting away within his eyes and decides
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he must do something, it is a desperateme situation and he decides to attack the post in trenton and it here that the marble headers perhaps have their finest hour. it's a situation where everything changes. everything is on the line. everything is about to collapse and it's on the shoulders of the marble headers once again. washington has an elaborate plan, he always has an elaborate plan. they're going to attack trenton, marble headers are basically taking the army across the delaware river on the main bronco the other threeee prongs are also going forward. all of f them fail except the
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marble headers. only marble headers across the river which is filled with ice, there is nothing's going according to plan. all of the other bronx to washington defense fail but the marvel headers are able to get the army across, at least one portion of it. the other three fail. that night, they are behind schedule, they are about 12 miles above trenton and they have to march through sleet and snow into trenton. much of the army at this time barefoot from they are literally, their tracks are filled with blood in the snow but they push forward. the marvel headers are leading part of the element, they push
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down toward the southern portion of trenton this is a very important part, without orders, they attack a key bridge, they capture the bridge along with the guard and then they set up cannons on high ground. meanwhile the rest of washington's army is attacking. during most 18th century engagement, the army's both sides battle it out and went one side is it being, not doing well, they retreat. he had no avenue of retreat thanks to john carter and the indispensable's. they capture the bridge, they steal third retreat and the fate of the entire regimen which changed the course of history.
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from there, the army goes back across the delaware thanks to the marblehead men and it's unfortunately a little worse than the trip over because captureded the rum supply and it was a drunken cruise back over and several men fell over but capture most of the regimen in a large stand ofrg arms and then it sets up roughly a week later, the second battle of the creek where washington doesn't necessarily want to fight but his hand is sort of forced by a militia group, but off you associate or switch go a little early without order and washington decides to reinforce them and they hold a key bridge against all odds.
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the marvel head regiment was hard to tell, he stays with washington. the other group is exhausted and go back but that group is saved, they fight at the battle of princeton they change the course of history. the ten crucial aids that change the crew course of history in battle and as marvel headers, they are in the fourth that make a difference but the story doesn't end there and what i mean by that is the marble header that once again saves the army and i'll get to that story in a minute but first, i want to go through the characters of the book so you get a feel for what the book is about. the first character or individual i like to highlight
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is john glover, he is the central character of the indispensable's and john glover is a self-made man. the french and indian war, a cobbler and also a bartender and with the money he makes from bartending and probably shoes, he is able to buy a ship and then more ships and he built a fleet and becomes a wealthy man through trading and marvel head, fortunes are made on fish. caught is commodity and marvel head and its a third of the economy in massachusetts in 1774. they fish the grant by the grant by some of the most treacherous waters in the world, it's icy, thousands of miles away from
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boston for the sale up and fish, they gatherut fish and it's a le and death situation against these giant waves and storms but they are working together and marvel head, it's a diverse community, it has native americans, three african-americans, hispanic americans, these individuals are ahead of their time in many ways, progressive for its time. many of the men in the indispensable's are abolitionist, they are at the forefront of american civil rights before there were civil rights and they were pushing for the abolitionist slavery including john glover ended the use crews that are diverse working together but it's also a situation where the crown is
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interfering with their lives and they are impressing, they are impressed by the british navy, they literally come alongside the ship and then say you are going to be ays member of the royal navy, you are effectively a slave for life and the individual is taken aboard the ship and made a member of the royal navy for life and there is no free musty escape which sounded. this is a factor that causes the great from great britain, one of the factors. excessive regulation, robbers enterprises were regulated 3000 miles away and in 1775, something called a fisheries act would be established where the crown would literally not allow
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marvel headers, putting out a fork the entire town which caused a great deal of resentment. their judges were taken from them and their government was changed. all of these issues bring a political change within the colonies, marvel head will become the spearhead along with the revolution and ann idea of the revolution and it was the marvel headers that would play a critical role in this but in 1773 and four, ships from marble also brought home with it a virus that changed america and the town would be divided politically. people within the town working infected but th patriots came
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up with a novel plan to create an inoculation hospital to try to publicly deal with this virus himself causing photo pressures causing massive death. the people would kill you in many cases. they set up houses to contain the virus cutting edge for the time, set up by robert and many of the other main characters in the book. as a hospital started to produce results, it also produced arising infection which loyalists used to their advantage tonc incite the mob ad
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dozens of men wrote to cap island where the inoculation hospital was in place and burned it to the ground with people inside, remarkably nobody was killed but the hospital cost john robert and the other pages in the town of 2000 pounds damages. they put a risk to the men to cease the individuals and they were brought to jail for trial. the loyalists in the town with the situation of a virus to incite a mob they attacked the jail with hundreds of individuals, they broke into the doors of the jail with axes and crowbars and freed the two men and at that time, the main characters of the book, their houses are surrounded by the
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angry mob which are hell-bent on potentially killing him all and john glover came up with a novel solution to deal with the problem. ithis version of self-defense ws to wield a canon inside the foyer of his house and i recall finding the original papers from the family, i'll fix them with this quote as a mob circled from he ordered the doors thrust open and the canner was there in the foyer facing the mob and he had a torch in his hand he told them to disperse and they did. he made us stand and it was emblematic of how john glover would conduct himself the rest of it and it is here, john glover and aldrich bring in the
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main supplies of gunpowder through their contacts prior to the revolutionary war and as the war moves forward, john glover is involved in concorde, he is involved in many of the other battles and has the job of guarding general washington prior to the house interact here that john robert forges a special relationship with the commander-in-chief and he forms a level of trust and his trust to solve a problem for him. gunpowder is crucial as john adams has they had plenty of guns, no gunpowder the british knew it and tried to disarm us
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through gunpowder but it would be the context the marvel headers at that brought in the crucial gunpowder but it was also a novel way that washington would try to capture gunpowder by attacking the british source when he needed ships to do the operation so he turned to john probert to create a navy and the navy, which is preposterous to take basically a fishing boat that john carter had and somehow take on the greatest navy of the time but that's exactly what they did and they attacked british ships and the story of the navy is extraordinary. some of the most colorful and american history, cap and from the red dragon that has a giant cloak with an incredible sense
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of humor. martindale decides to outfit guns from a lavish amount of money but is ship gets out of port and immediately is captured by the british martindale sells the british at trial. martindale is an amazing story, they put his crew and iron, they are pressed in thehe vessels and he is freed with his officers to make his way to where he is in prison as well by the british navy but somehow he makes his way down the east coast down to washington, sending tales of his heroics in the process and he goes on to fight again but is lost at sea in ferrer so many amazing stories within the navy,
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they attacked without authorization, one of the first in united states history but they also capture critical at the right time at the right place. another individual i'd like to talk about doctor nathaniel, the train resurrection most, a body snatcher. doctor bond, thursday critical shortage of cadavers at the time and people would literally, doctors were great graveyards to snatch bodies to work on them to find out their anatomy but this doctor is an extraordinary hero, he's on cap island working on the inoculation and it here he saves many marvel headers.
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he is at the forefront of smallpox, his expertise. doctor bond is a member of the marvel head regiment trains and drills with them. he participates in the battle of lexington and concord but according to hippocratic oath which he follows very r serious, he treats the british soldiers that are reported. then he is canceled. the patriots in the town believe he's surrounded. an extra nice letter i have here in myal hand where he begs for s life saying there are thousands of people that will kill him at any moment. please send detailed men to
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bring me to court-martial so i can reveal what happened. he can find his true friend, joseph and they have the court-martial facts are revealed and doctor bond is exonerated from fake crimes, he didn't do anything wrong, he just hopes people which is what he supposed to do but instead of melting away and not being happy with the situation, he decided too fight joined the regiment as the surgeon. doctor goes on the company manner and fights through all the major battles of the american revolution which is extraordinary in and of itself and at the battle of trenton about half the regiment was back to marveld head, they have a reason for going back.
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marvel head at that time is economicallyde devastated they e starving. they go back to protect the families. the doctor stays on along with many other men. they continue to stay on in washington himself said ask doctor bond to inoculate the army. at the time, papyrus was killing nearly 20% of the army, devastated by. doctor bond sets up all the inoculation facilities, he supervises and manages the entire process and inoculate the army. one historian claims that washington's greatest strategic decision to inoculate the army, then they were able to fight and continue the battle before it, the man initially canceled and
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inoculating the army. those are some of the characters in the book along with aldrich, forgotten founder, my favorite word is gravel terrien, an ornery guy. he was the intellectual mainspring in many ways of the early revolution. aldridge very believes in republicanism from service to country over self and he takes abstract concepts and makes them reality but he also takes one of the largest training fleet in the colonies which he and his family owned and converts them
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into supply lines. as i mentioned earlier, the necessary and was gunpowder, all the majorti operations the brith were conducted in the early part of the war were to take and disarm americans take vital supply of gunpowder. without gunpowder, no revolution could be thought but coming up with the concept, he's one of the first in writing to talk about foreign alliances, he and other doubleheaders forged alliance spain and looked through his contacts the last 3r 30 years with this relationship and they bring in the parish to the colony and future vice presidentt,, future congressman gerrymandering is named after him, bill of rights, electoral college, all of these things are
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part of him. the last thing i'm going to talk about quicklye, is the diverse members of this unit. in many cases, we only know them by their first name. these are extraordinary individuals, their unsung and forgotten. the importance of this regiment is not necessarily, strengthens diversity but there greatest strength was their unity and these men working together as a team and there are incredible members of this regiment, manwell soto i looked up their pension files and these men died
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but they fought through the entire war in the most epic and great operations of the war bringing the marvel head regiment, bringing the army to safety multiple times. these are thehe forgotten membes of the revolution, they are all extraordinary and what they did and a diversity model that we would see tragically for over 170 years but these are the men, men and women, covering incredible women in this book extraordinary things, they were in the right place at the right time and in many cases, the sacrifice they made is epic. marvel head alone had over 600
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widows revolution and it is that sacrifice, the reason i wrote the indispensable's, i think most americans don't appreciate, our story is our greatest story and its marvel headers, the change of course. thank you very much, i am happy to take questions. >> this has been a great introduction to the book, i'm so excited to have a chance to read it which they have a chance now. caps off questions coming in, there is a question i would like to show about the cohesiveness, how does a diverse group, a cohesive group? we tend to think of modern soldiers acting as one, because i have been here and how did they make that happen?
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>> i think a lot of it has to do with what happened prior to the revolution. in many cases, many of these men were on fishing boats where life and death decisions had to be made within seconds the color of your skin or race was irrelevant, it was about trust and face teamwork was forged over years of time many of them forced them, they forged bonds of friendship, bonds of family, to where they literally, many were interconnected through ties and they were best friends. i researched this unit extensively, i i found a couplef examples which is unheard of for the 18th century where
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desertion was often right but it was those connections with family and communities that tied them together. on the question, i like this as well, what happens next? after the campaign, the marvel headers turned home, what we know about the next story? can you tell us more about after life? >> it is a complicated story. after unit -- well, maybe less than half the unit stays with washington and fizzes an extraordinary moment. after her right before the battle, washington uses his ability to beg and plead the army to stay and then we serves
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and many are marvel headers and many of them die as a result including doctor bond. john glover along with other members of the marvel head retirement return home and they form a new, he's made general, they form a new brigade, they formed a new regiment but any government take them and in many cases, the great captains become part of the continental navy and they are some of the greatest of the revolutionary war and the book has an incredible scene of shit to ship fighting can also in some cases they literally
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have to make repairs on the flight or make their way to a small cove, hardly anybody there and then they have to drag logs out, it is quite extraordinary story of american ingenuity, many of them become private peers, unlike washington's navy where they were members of the navy, these are individuals that are also earning a commission from a slightly different but they are working in the massachusetts government, many of them die including glover's son and many are never seen again. >> of the questions that come in, justin, another fellow here at thehe washington library askd about average age of the members, what can you tell us about that? of a young, old?
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is there a wide range? >> was able to take the roles that existed and the average age was around 244 many of the men but it varies, obviously there were some older and younger men, the book captures a story of boy soldiers and many cases, they were drummer boys, music was an important part of being able to communicate on the battle, drums and fight and relay orders and funding of the younger members were musicians and they went to work with their fathers and we have some extraordinary stories of father and son teams.
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>> on the question, the recognition of obviously your book is a great example of how we discover and recognize the service, what recognition two people received during their lifetime? >> most of these men and women receive zero recognition. most of them were bankrupt after the war and what you see in the application, if they were lucky enough to even make it that long, this is especially true for the mariners color, extremely impoverished and he himself does wracked with ptsd, we can divide that through his letters of washington where he's n not able sleep most nights and
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marvel head was a source of great wealth in massachusetts, the second largest city and it is reduced to a child after the war and individual families are greatly impoverished. in the book itself in 1777, weight 76 i bring out the women of the town, beverly is an important part of the book as well, one of the companies led by captain brown, they have their base there, they literally right and the women of the town take up buckets and rate the food stores of the town because they are starving but it is a ready war, americans are pitted against americans, they are impoverished, but different more than most people have read in their history books.
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>> another question from the audience, how did glover managed to bring together so many different people? can you talk about the efforts, either thoughtful and deliberate things someone needs to do to make this happen or did it come out of the community from which hehe came? >> i think it comes out of the community, there was no overt effort to cory's people to serve and i think that's an important element of this book. they willingly served and the poorest members of the community as well as elite members all serving together side-by-side and you've got literally rubber and aldridge and jeremiah lee,
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these are -- jeremiah was one of the wealthiest in the colony, he is initiallyes there colonel serving with other members of the community which are not well off at all and they are not doing it under coercion, they are doing it because they feel it is their duty and what i find extraordinary is the amount of sacrifice as the workr progress and the community itself is bankrupt, there is a tremendous amount of pressure to return homeiv to give up the work but most of these men or many of them continue their service against all odds which i find extraordinary. >> obviously we are here at mount vernon is a great opportunity to ask is, what was the connection like between
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glover and washington? did t they share an intimacy? did they have a cancer frank relationship with one another? >> they did. >> someone insiders know well. >> that relationship is an important one and why the marvel headers are the indispensable's. that relationship is forged in early 1775 cambridge, it's a giant mansion that washington takes over the headquarters and it's the marvel headers that are some ways the first to guard the headquarters and he requested them as time goes on because he formed a very intimate relationship of trust with john glover and the adjutants of that unit at the time, he later
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becomes in charge of the lifeguard or commander in chief guard and this relationship is incredibly important. washington can trust these men at the most crucial time in the work of the american guns he places his entire trust on the shoulders of the marvel. head men. john glover where washington asked him can you bring us across thehe river? my boys have got it and they had it. he had the confidence in his men in washington have confidence in the marvel headers.
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as i said earlier, if washington was the indispensable man of the revolution, the marvel headers which were indispensable men of the revolution. >> margo has a great question about the training, shaping the ability of this wonderful regiment. was it fishing, the expenses they have coming in long before the war broke out, how are they taught if there was more to it to effectively be the regiment they became? >> the men had undergone training as a militia unit prior to the work where they would train in the ground, in and around marvel head and it was not necessarily taken very seriously because they would go to the tavernn "afterwards" and drink punch and rock after the training but it forged these men
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as arguably the greatest fighting unit driver take arms for the united states, it's their experience prior to the war fishing in the grand bay where they had to battle not only the royal navy but also mother nature and the greatest at the time, the grand banks were unforgiving, every year hundreds of men will die from see so this brad hartman there were very, very tough americans and also pretty hard drinkers but that's another story. they were very tough individuals. >> is another question comingryn from frank who asked about the marvel headers involved
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elsewhere. we talked about water crossing, we see one on the cover of your book, were any marvel headers involved in the campaign including thehe south in the wo? >> not directly. after the trend campaign, glover would operate in the north primarily. there's a handful of individuals that has served himself because they traveled that way in one way or another but for the most part they have not operated in the south but the story of the marvel head men is unique in terms of special operations that they had conducted where they conducted raids against the british and they launched a fire ship against the british a
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couple weeks before the battle of brooklyn for several men died or perished as they drove their ships directly into british battleships. one of the marvel headers perished in the process but it is an extraordinary story. >> another question and curious, this might be my last opportunity because we are running out of time t but a question early on that i'm excited to hear your thoughts on about leadership, he asked about a leadership quality washington had, i want you to expand a bit not just washington but also other key figures including water, is there a leadership trait you see as key for success? >> absolutely, this book is still with leadership example, divisionalswe really to sacrifie
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theirr lives for their cause, their country. it is mind-boggling to try to describe this where at the end of the war many of these individuals were penniless and they were broken men physically as well, as emotionally, but oe of leadership trait they had, they weres willing to, they wod never ask somebody else to do something they wouldn't be willing to do. in many cases they led from the very front and willing to sacrifice their lives and that leadership is essential, something that is a lesson we can understand and learn from today.
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>> this is a remarkable opportunity, my camera is gone but let me talk to you from here, thank you so much. do you have any closing words more to say about your research project, what comes next? >> i do want to say thank you to everybody this evening to everyone who has sacrificed their time for my presentation. i want to thankhaha the lady of mount vernon for sponsoring me and allowing me to conduct research in one of the finest facilities in america and one of the greatest, i've never founda better place to write a book in here. it is a special place and i am extremely grateful for the opportunity to be here and conduct this research and to write this book.
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>> tonight on book tv on c-span2 we look at policing, starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern, a conversation, york city police commissioner, bill and the author of the book, america on fire, the untold history of police, violence and black rebellion since the 1960s and a conversation with rosa brooks, law professor who became a police officer in her 40s. book tv on c-span2 tonight 8:00 p.m. eastern. ♪♪ >> secret service was founded in the aftermath of abraham we can, it wasn't until the death of john f. kennedy the presidential protect service began to get closer attention from the american people. carol began reporting on the secret service for the washington post in 2012. in the prologue of her new book, zero fail, she writes that she started her coverage on over
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kate, but scandal in which agents brought prostitutes to their hotel rooms while making arrangements for president obama to visit in columbia. we talked about her in-depth look in her new book subtitle the rise and fall of secret service. >> carol on this episode of note live is an act c-span.org/podcast or wherever you get your podcast. ♪♪ ... name is andrew, i'm the director of the international of the jefferson. it is my pleasure to introduce kevin who will be discussing his new book, the complete victory saratoga and the american revolution published by oxford university. i'm splendid, splendid addition with
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