and authors. it's television for serious readers. learn, discover, explore. weekends on c-span2. >> during a recent virtual event hosted by haymarket books yet university history professor elizabeth hinton, the history please violence and social unrest. >> the idea that somehow the riots were these moments of criminality and that they were examples of criminal behavior,, again, that sense be very much like johnson because after harlan erupts in 64 after 15-year-old high school student is killed by the newark police department, johnson takes, makes the same steps in those obama did. he said this is not about some rights protest. this is criminal, tied to the crime problem, tied to juvenile delinquency. it's meaningless. it's carnivalesque and it's a

riot, right? as as a right the best way to respond to it is with police force. and what johnson meant and what obama meant is that this political violence is rooted in the same socioeconomic demands of the civil rights movement. that is an in to police brutality, an to white supremacist, jobs, people and talking, what did he say? people are not saying we want welfare. they're saying we want jobs and we want decent housing without roaches and rats running througr beds at night. people are calling for better and more expansive educational systems, educational opportunities, college scholarships and really to be treated like full citizens by the city and by their country. that's what the rebellions were about. and in making this and ignoring those with causes and ignoring the demands that people participate in the rebellions

were making, we get into this policy cycle where the on the response to this violence is more please. et cetera actually get people jobs. such of his resource in the convergys. it's to invest resources in the form of police and surveillance and inflator incarceration. what you did you say that was? 2013? >> way back then. >> very alive and well and that's been the dominant view ever since, that there's some forms of respectable protests and other problems are criminals. ignoring the fact this is in response to police violence. >> you can watch the rest of this program on our website booktv.org. search for elizabeth hinton or the title of your book "america on fire" using the box at the top of the page.

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