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ceiling. senators will take up a motion to proceed to keep the government funded through december 3. that legislation extends the debt ceiling 22022. a vote to limit debate on the motion is scheduled for 5:30 p.m.py eastern. >> on your screen as kate others, policy advisor for doctors without borders to talk about global covid vaccine supply. what is the mission of doctors without borders? >> and international humanitarian organization medical care to people basically left out rewards, people in natural disasters and developing countries. >> what role are you playing in this covid pandemic? >> it's been responding to the covid pandemic, a large role we played to make sure people are
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able to access other healthcare during regular health services due to covid. kids are circuiting measles and we have played a large role making sure people are able to access other health services that are necessary for mass destruction due to covid. >> our to show our viewers with the president announced yesterday and give some details on the other side. helping the united states global vaccine supply. >> to beat the pandemic care, we need to be to everywhere. i'm keeping the promise thatry america will become the vaccine is the arsenal for democracy during world war ii. we've already shipped nearly 160 million doses to 100 countries, more than every other country is donating to buy. t donations about half a billion
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pfizer vaccines correct and finance for the g7 summit in june have begun to ship. today i'm announcing another historic commitment. eleven states is buying another half trillion doses of pfizer for low and middle income countries around the world. this is another half billion doses that will be shipped by this time next year and it brings total commitment of donated vaccines 12 or 1.1 billion faxing to be donated. for every one shot we've administered, we've now committed to do three shots to the rest of the world. >> tell the viewers whether vaccines are needed right now across the world. >> the equity we've seen in covid vaccine is dire.
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here in the united states, about 55% vaccination coverage. in africa, less than 12% of the population that needs to be vaccinated has actually been fully vaccinated so there's wide discrepancies in the wealthiest countries that have accumulated in the poor countries in the world banking for vaccines and are still in the moment. about 6 billion doses y of covid vaccine administered worldwide so far yet only 2% have doctor africa administered so there region and countries left behind in the promise of equity. it certainly is a step in the right direction when you consider how many doses are
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needed for developing countries but we need to go much further plan, muchheads of more specific targets and a lot of accountability. >> who's responsible for that in your opinion? >> leaders of the most wealthy countries of the world have made wealthy promises the president biden's announcement yesterday is a step in the right direction, we heard similar promises before. in june, the wealthiest countries of the world met and made tremendous pledges about 1 billion doses in developing countries. so far only about 16% have materialized. uk government is second behind u.s. in terms of volume doses in the developing world, high income countries are on access stock right now awaiting possible decisions so the power
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and a handful of the wealthiest countries of the world that need to make significant changes and held accountable. >> i want to invite viewers to join in on the global vaccine supply divided regionally this morning. as you , this is from bloomberg 469 doses administered across 84 million countries, 39% of the global population, current rate of 34 million doses a day in the highest income countries vaccinated at 20 times faster than the lowest in the country. what's happening where 4% of the population is vaccinated? >> in places where it works, you see the consequences of not being able to prevent covid. right now it's a largely disease because of the miracle of the
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vaccines and you don't have access to them, so we have illness and death, africa has undergone a third wave of the pandemic so in addition to the illness and death not being able to be protected from a huge impact on the medical system. we're talking many areas of the world where the ability to cope with medical needs of the population are relatively easy if you are in the u.s. they don't have as many trained physicians and other medical practitioners and enough oxygen. they're not able to cope with extra modest volume of cases they are seeing right now. in addition to the immediate public health, i think everybody has now become common adage,
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covid anywhere is covid everywhere but that really is the truth when you think about viruses. we are talking about the delta virus now and what it's doing across the world. thesees variants come and proliferate because they don't have enough immunity. new ways to become infectious. the entire reason from the beginning so for the consequences but unfortunately the wealthiest countries of the world have a different plan to prioritize their population. systemic changes needed so developing countries could be protected in places like africa and other countries.
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>> we are talking with kate elder, doctors without borders. >> good morning. i'm speaking to the nurses and icus across the united states interviewing canada and they are witnessing horrific injuries from the vaccines so why is this being up and why would i vaccinate my family especially my young children when i know people are getting this from this faxing? i know people are getting fed up of covering this up, we never see families on tv, just somebody dying of covid and a lot of times they were fully vaccinated the didn't fry from covid but the vaccine. thank you very much. >> thank you for your call and for sharing your experience. the truth is right now, people ending up inow hospitals are by
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and large the population who have not been vaccinated. people vaccinated are significantly more protected, it's well documented published in the medical journal. there are certain things the community calls immunization, there's always going to be a small negligible amount of unexpected consequences, that is just the nature of developing medical tools which have gone through expedited review. however, with six billing doses, we are accumulating a tremendous amount of safety on the vaccines. while approval to pfizer so that's based upon medical data
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and the challenge of information and disinformation stemmed from that is obviously something in the u.s. having it be 5% of the population are medical practitioners working in hospitals seeing the low immunization. i want to acknowledge people about these medical technologies and look at who was landing in hospitals right now, it's by and large people not vaccinated. >> larry in ohio. >> my question is, if we've given away 1.1 billion doses mike does the t taxpayer agree n that? all of these people making money from this is the people making the vaccines because at 1 dollar
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of the faxing at $1.1 billion and $100 of that, that's $100 billion on on the taxpayer we have no say in top of open borders so we allow everyone in with no vaccinations, no measles and mumps, none of these vaccinations, just putting them across the border across america. >> the cost of the taxpayers in one of the roles of manufacturerspo here is providig these vaccines for low income countries . >> thank you, i want to pull something out in terms of tremendous policies, larry raised some good points in the taxpayer money developing values vaccines and taxpayert monies to be donated. the u.s. government spent more
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than $10 billion financing pharmaceutical industries develop anil vaccines to purchae doses domestically, there's an important piece in the making tremendous public investment is the public at global community to get more for that public investment. right now we are still of the pharmaceutical corporations deciding these vaccines, or prices they want for them and being under that system that has governed research and development for a long time mother consequences pharmaceuticalnc appropriations for highest paying customer first and that's why here in the u.s. we are a wash in vaccines and our neighbors in new york and canada reported canada on
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the excess doses because they have so much in canada so right now what we need to be doing, president biden's plan yesterday have gone further to talk about what we are doing to basically calling the public ownership of these vaccines. if we need to be able to diversify manufacturing, that's the content of africa, other areas with these developed countries, they do not have domestic, the ability right now to make covid vaccines domestically but the u.s. industry for the technology. pfizer, turner, johnson & johnson and others areeu not willingly sharing technology into their knowsh how. they do that by the world health organization but organized something called technology
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transfer tool to develop the mrna covid vaccine hub in south africa, it's manufactured to participate willingly so many european leaders with so much public money into development, they should be insisting appropriations share with other places can make it. not only. important for this pandemic, the covid pandemic but is everybody concerned we will face similar cataclysmic health issues peasant mx in the future? to be better prepared and not repeat what was happening right now, we need to make sure we diversify manufacturing and listen to reasons left behind baking in this and that would be pushing pharmaceutical companies using coverage of the united states government and pfizer and frontera share their technology.
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>> new york times headline, pressure grows on u.s. companies to share covid vaccine technology putting the pressure on the companies. >> we do not see the pressure by government or at least it hasn't made enough of a difference, there's a tremendous loss of civil society and other political leaders as well but it needs to be done by the government so there is pressure but that's not going to deliver anything in the developing world unless you have that here insisting the company's share their technology publicly funded technology. they are not going to do it on their own. they want to continue raking in billions of dollars from covid vaccines so we need the
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administration to do that. the u.s. government owner in the maternal vaccine, or so much funding toward it, they couldlde sharing that information right up with other parts of the world, we didn't see that estimate in the announcement in a meaningful way. >> thank you. first of all, it's upsetting to me we've had so many vaccines in this country expire unused when so many people in the world are desperate for the vaccines but regarding what you are talking about, i think president biden, 500 million vaccines free to other countries with no political strings attached it is times like the right thing to do in my question to you is, what
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safeguards should be put into place to ensure the vaccines get offer to and made available to the people in those countries versus selling the vaccines to other countries and pocketing the profits? is it even possible to enforce such safeguards? >> thank you and i want to share withan you the status for lack f a better word, tens of thousands of doses expire here in the u.s. and other wealthy countries around the world when they are so desperately needed in low income countries. i sure that frustration and that rage. we are literally destroying vaccines expiring people around the world and they are begging
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for doses. thank you for noting that. in terms of how you can make government accountable and i mentioned core following the g7 in june, 15% have materialized in addition to making sure recipients and governments are using them in his role of civil society. the world health organization has been doing tremendously good job. they've been calling for faxing equity since the beginning providing the regions directly to prepare for vaccines when they are available. you need infrastructure to drill something and i know this very well since the organization,
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we've been doing that so we know how to deliver vaccines and have a tremendous amount of logistics so being all the other vaccines needed to be delivered, we have to build additional infrastructure. and i want to acknowledge president biden yesterday more than $300 million two different streams to prepare covid receipts. in terms of accountable to make sure they are not going to these places on the market so far there haven't been reports of vaccines on secondary markets which is very encouraging, who and so far the doses arriving i think for the growing.
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it's always left out of the healthcare system, the most marginalized people. there has been something in the humanitarian buffer for that. other ngos and access a portion of covid vaccines and use it for the most marginalized people left out of the government with political dynamics where they might not bee recognizing a portion of the population. it's not been able to meet an authorized lay sterilized because of issues around the pharmaceutical corporations insisting what you want to use the moment to say companies like pfizer and maternal and others wave legal ramifications with
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humanitarian communities. we have to make sure they donate these staying stringent and keep watching that. >> can you talk about world health organization former president trump about the who, any truth to beinghe cozy with chronic china? >> that hasn't followed that level of political dynamics but i want to say tremendous leadership on the world health organization. from the get go, who put out global allocation frameworks for covid, before the covid vaccines were even available. there was a framework put together by the who outlined if we arekl going to optimize publc
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health with global benefits for the future vaccine, business the way. as had every country around the world needed to achieve 20% coverage from the beginning some vaccinate at the same pace before extending to other populations. this was if it had been operationalization lysed by people of the power and corporations putting a much better place than we are right now. so that was led by who, they had all these experts around the world. they're doing a tremendous job and we knowe many people at the phl of expertise and they are doing a wonderful job in this dire pandemic.
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>> illinois. >> thank you for coming to me to educate us. do you have a benchmark for the survival rate of third world countries and second question, have used the chinese vaccine and otherth countries? >> are not being able to answer the first part of your questions in terms of the benchmark, i'm sorry but i'm sure we can follow up "afterwards" and i contract that information for you. in terms of your second question, mss medical healthcare, we have not with vaccines ourselves making that clear, what we have been doing in terms of covid vaccines is when government to deliver
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healthcare when they have vaccines, we have been helping them. whether it's helping register people for faxing, dealing with data that comes from not and running the camera or not but we haven't got the vaccine itself so if we work in a country where the government is how to use a chinese vaccine, if the vaccine received w-2 prequalification standards for certifying coffee and support the government for that. >> david in los angeles. >> i would like to start out by saying thank you to missus
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elder. she's pointed out something and it's not lost on the audience. we are co- financiers of the vaccines and from the sounds of things, we have littleit say aso how they are going to be distributed and so forth. the pharmaceutical companies have, as a result to come away with no say so and it seems to be the state of affairs for pharmaceutical companies. i'll say this and that i'll be quiet. the anti- factors, if they
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really wanted an issue, this is why we cannot trust. we cannot trust pharmaceutical companies because they run over us economically of all these products including these vaccines, . >> musetta eloquently, thank you for calling and then underscoring that. we the american taxpayers have largely paid for the development around covid vaccines. the u.s. government is the largest financer of medical research and department worldwide. when we as americans and what is the world? i think david put it directly,
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to be owning these vaccines, places around the world have been neglected and left behind in the race for covid vaccines shouldn't be, the u.s. s government european government should be assisting the technology, publicly funded technology for future pandemics don't see the devastating inequity sharing medical innovation right now. >> larry in minnesota. >> right now a large population of republicans refuse to be vaccinated. losing 1500 schools a day to covid and i call that a good start. >> michael in miami. >> with the governor here, along
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more global perspective but i think your perspective applies to us here, i've been on msnbc so you wouldn't be the first person if you get any press on this but they set a florida court a country, they prosecutors for crimes against humanity on the basis of how boss and antiscience reports, using children here in the u.s. as smallpox to spread the disease pushing with a call natural immunity, it's a eugenic biasom endemic to countries especially in the 1860s pushing this idea of evolution by tooth and claw, natural immunity and everyone would benefit, as led to this libertarian bias may have this tendency because we are suffering here with governor
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desantis, he'ss got anti- vacce protocols in place. >> okay. >> thanks, there is clearly a role for public health law in your hitting on important thing here domestically as we track from the beginning of the pandemic for countries approach. there is a role for public health law, hitting on human rights violation, i would encourage everybody to think about back and reflect on that. i wept time is this a violation for everybody's rights to be protected? we have tools that makes covid largely preventable. for us in the u.s. but people in the developing world left behind, too. i want to responsibilities so
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