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remember about this is that without an authorization inn place, federal and transportation funds cannot be utilized by statement in the department transportation it said this really is a dead line with consequences. and congress has a history of doing extensions but obviously we are here to talk about multi- with the authorization. ... t ... increase in both areas and frankly it's long overdue but. >> what is formula for dispersing that money? >> the bill includes the same

distribution of formula that has been in place for the existing highway program dollars since i think the 2005 reauthorization bill. there's a new rich formula program that is going to slightly depart from the past practices. this is additive money. it certainly does not take anything away from anyone the last three transportation bills, disagreements, there's beensp widespread consensus and sharing of federal dollars per. >> the formulas? text based on a number of factors. the amount of travel, the amount of truck travel there

are different programs that constitute the total federal each has slightly different weights of those factors are. and it looks at not only the assets that are in place but how they're being used utilize the different factors that weigh it in terms of how. >> is that it's additive money and what did you mean? >> it is new. i'm to about $9 billion a year formula that does not take anything away from existing dollars. that is what i mean by additive. it is part of the increased investment that would come from the bipartisan bill. >> word is this money come from? >> it's a variety of factors. there has been a broad

discussion over the last 15 yearsl or so the revenue not being enough to support existing programs. that is not true it's not like it stops at the gas attacks dollars going into the highway trust fund. that is over $40 billion a year there is a variety of different that have been utilized by the bipartisan infrastructure bill to support the new investment levels. $205billion repurposed from covid emergency funding. there is $56 billion from projected return tax revenue. and $53 billion from states who have not used their

previously allocated insurance. variety of things to support the package. >> 's would not add to the deficit? click the bill is paid for in terms of congressional scorekeeping practices.th >> steve chapman argued us in a recent piece. let me read it to you and have you responded. even if the united states needs more investment in particular areas not does not mean the federal government should pick up the tablet great majority are owned by state and local governments at their constituents to gain the most from resurfacing roads are bolstering bridges. they're going to reap the economic benefits should they be willing to pay for them? >> there is federal rresponsibility for developing and maintaining a natural transportation that goes back to the constitution.

when you think about interstate commerce there is nothing that moore embodies interstate commerce than the movement of goods through the states by the interstate highway system. the federal role for national transport is clear the practice is long-standing. i don't think any form of government has the ability to take on the sole responsibility of what we have right now is truly a partnership between state government, local government and the federal government. you are right states on the vast majority of roads and bridges. and then federal lands, ownership of roads is pretty minimal.

that does not mean there isn't a natural interest in the free flow of commerce and its citizens per. >> for talking to david power representing road and transportation builders in america. he is the present ceo of that association for a column with your comments and questions about roads and bridges where you live. republicans dial 2-027-488-0013 democrats (202)748-8000, independence (202)748-8002. you can also text us with their first name, city and state in your thoughts as well. mr. bauer, robert full argues each estate can set a fuel tax sufficient to fund its own highway and bridge work. the federal fuel tax should be set at a a level to fund the continued maintenance. i was needed the expansion of highways and growing areas of the country by the federal fuel tax could best be lowered

to fund these smaller federal transportation responsibility. with this work? "i think when we look at the bipartisanct infrastructure bill it's a great example of bringing together a wide variety of priorities and desires with transportation outcomes. i understand the argument you just articulated. i think there are some folks that feel that way. when we look at federal policy at an opportunity to bring together folks of different perspectives and find that common ground. that is really what the bipartisan infrastructure accomplishes. frankly the ideas about scaling back the federal

transportation have been articulated for a long time and they never bring together the necessary to allow legislation to move forward. when i look atee the needs of the nation it needs a robust commitment by all of government and not point finger and say this areas someone else's responsibility. they need for a sufficient network that requires all of us in all levels be invested. >> how would you describe the current state of roads and bridges across the country? >> one and three bridges is indeed a need ever player or replacement. approximate 22% of highway miles are eligible for federal

dollars 22% of one and 5 miles are in poor condition. one in three bridges, one in five federal highway miles the needs of the dollar standpoint are very daunting i command the house and senate to advance this bill to robust step forward through a growing need for. >> democratic color in the in a go-ahead. >> good morning thank you for your participation this morning. greta i would like to if i may use a bridge between the previous session and the session. thatan is change management. everyone should take the course and change management

at the masters level. our nation has always used major in the states as the way to sell national defense. the iq 90 fast allows one of our nation's premier military installations for bragg, north carolina produced a 295 bypass that is come up through their is doing that to sell the ability to defend ourur nation. there is also known, that is funded for this a plan now to run another interstate between interstate ten and interstate 20 that goes from fort wood texas all the trip to south carolina to say hate we can connect these major military bases. when there is a storm, when

there's any major bottleneck these can be deployed. they just redid the airstrip at e pope field and the 82nd airborne had to fly out of charleston. this program, this gentleman is an asset granted to our nation. the focus of change management we have got to understand if you drive from one state to another and the roads are so bad as you passth the state line you are paying for because your cars being torn up, there is no revenue, when others want to expand there is no interstate system. see when i'm going to have bauer's body shaking his head. >> guest: the last part is spot on. make a lot of times that's get lost when folks think about transportation in general. there is a hidden tax to

delay. there is a hidden tax articulated. i think to his point about change management, as when the really exciting opportunities presented by the bipartisan bill to the last ten -- 15 years the federal investment has marginally been about the preservation of existing levels of investment. you are focus on maintaining a status quo in the amount of resources put into an area. it is really hard to find opportunities to find new things, to be transformative, and the resources that are provided in this legislation are going to enable states to focus on resiliency, to focus on upgrading our bridges without sacrificing otherer priorities. it is really a key thing

hopefully this week. >> host: kent and pennsylvania republican color. >> caller: your time interstate system. i live in pennsylvania here, the turnpike is put itself out of business for the prices they are charging is out of this world. if people are going round trucks are coming up and down the mountains, you go on a dirt bike you see y very few cars. they are going miles out of thee way. sweetie david bauer? >> guest: i have driven on thehe pennsylvaniafr turn point. i've had very frustratingve experiences. i understand exactly what he is saying. i think the turn pike and other roads across the country

are examples of states trying to find a way to meet transportation needs with limited resources. turnpikes, toll roads, things like that are what we have. i certainly understand some folks have a difficult time accepting they should be paying for a toll to drive on a good road. but when you are in a situation with limited resources there are only so many options available. when in fact when the initial questions how this bill is paid for, transportation improvement cost money but anyone who says we can do without dollars they do not the situation i have. one way or another resources need to be transferred from

bank accounts into roads, bridges, buses, public transportation facilities and things likeon that. >> host: david bauer who doo you represent? are thesell toll roads public-private partnerships were a private company is benefiting from them? >> guest: we represent basically all entities that are involved in the development of transportation and infrastructure. that includes public sector owners, county engineers, we represent designers, equipment manufacturers, suppliers, contractors, safety suppliers into your last point, practitioners of public-private partnerships. you think about the question you pose there regarding the private sector involvement in

eight toll road and if they benefit thate is sometimes true. nthere are times when private sector involvement is not met expectations that company did not benefit and took on risk that took on a commonality amongst private sectors throughout industries the assumption of risk. when the private sector entity gets involved in a tollroad, construction projects are things like that there's risk from the public. sector. that is what happens. the thing about risk is the door swings both directions. sometimes it works out in a beneficial way. sometimes itit doesn't. >> mike and wyoming republican what are your thoughts?

>> guest: have a quick question andho a short comment good morning david. how much money is in the pending bill for pardoning the power grid? if we get a solar flare and it takes up the computer deals, the cars and trucks you don't have to bite your roads and bridges. nobody's going to be anywhere doing anything. i think the most critical thing and this pending infrastructure bill is a hardening the power grid, your thoughts please? >> look is to describe but the association and another lot of folks who know energy inside and out, i am not one of them. i do know the bill includes $73 billion for energy and

enhancements. i think that is an answer to your question but i'm probably not the best guest to get much deeper than that. >> host: and tom and pennsylvania independent. good morning tommy are on air. >> caller: good morning. when eisenhower started the interstate system is not only needed to create a ton of jobs but i've been saying for years we should be starting a truck only highway system for trucks only. it would be needed, and be efficient be less accidents and jobs, boom that's number one. number two, i get upset, your guests get upset your viewers but we think of infrastructure think about the color just said. power grid, roads and bridges, ports, airlines, airports and rail. we do not think of the social programs, universal social engineeringpr for $1.5 billion

and that's an occult universal social engineering not pre-k. poat those issues are important, have them voted on separately. they don't have them voted on separately we need roads and bridges and i agree with your guest. >> lots to unpack on that one. i am happy he mentioned the creation of the interstate system. some of you may not know was a h anniversary present eisenhower signing legislation that established the nation's interstate highway system. awfullyl would be an nice anniversary present if we could get it to president biden's desk. i think the real point of his observation was the second piece of the dialogue that is beenra going on for several

months. this is definitely the bill i am here to talk about it's the heartin infrastructure area. the democrats have also wanted to move forward a social infrastructure bill there is a no those two things are moving around in the same sphere. i can tell you they are not linked. the 19 republican senators who voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill back in august i almost certainly will tell you they're going to be opposing the democratic social infrastructure bill. that big debate is been going on in the house. some elements are using that are trying to utilize the bipartisan infrastructure built to leverage the social

infrastructureal bill. that is part of the reason we are here today looking at what will be the second or third extension of the program since expired last september. at the same time there's a lot of republicans in the house of representatives that can and should be supporting this measure because of the outcomes that will deliver for their community in terms of heart infrastructure improvements. sue and david bauer for you and others the negotiations youfo are talking about, an update for you from alina treating he writes for axis. this is from last night talking about congresswoman i was the chair of the progressive caucus. she is saying now that all 50 democratic senators have to agree to a a full bill text not

a framework before voting on the bipartisan infrastructure bill. that will be incredibly difficult to pull off a before the president gets off to europe on thursday. there's some talk the speaker would be the bipartisan infrastructure built tomorrow, when they had a framework, not a full bill text for the social spending bill, your reaction david bauer? >> that is exactly what i was just talking about. the merit of the bipartisan infrastructure bill which i would urge all members o of congress to evaluate it on. what is going to be the outcome, the benefit to their state their constituent. vote on that bill by its merits. consider its timing on its merits.

i understand this is the way things go. there are folks trying to leverage that measure which is incredibly popular to achieve a diff unit objective. the only thing we can continue to do and what we are doing is making sure all members of congress, at home and pack their constituent and that many benefits which will deliver for years to come. if you point out the timing, you are right. house democrats are going to have a lunch session today will probably get a lot more clarity about the schedule this afternoon. the most important thing however, is not some deadline or its october 31 or

december 31, this legislation gets delivered this year so that state departments can begin the time-consuming and important process of adjusting their transportation plans so these dollars can be put into the transportation and project delivery network as soon as possible. the longer it that is delayed the longer it is before their. >> this from mark stone the bill doesn' not past you have enough construction workers and supplied to start building roads and bridges? >> look, there is a workforce challenge throughout the economy right now. you cannot open up a newspaper

without reading different challenges, we have all gone to restaurant. we've gone to grocery stores that are not stocked as they used to be. but that said, last year it was a very strong year in terms of highway construction. almost a record number of road and bridges put in place. workforce challenges we are suffering from are not any different than now. our industry did an admirable job of delivering those infrastructure projects a while maintaining public health and following estate protocols for covid-19. the question is these dollars are not going to be going out the door in the next four

weeks. once it gets inactive. as i mentioned up front there is a long-term process for states have to adjust their plan, get projects approved. that gives my members, because this is a long-term bill, the time and opportunity to adjust their workforce to be able to deliver those outcomes. >> is another tweet from a viewer, how many billions to states receive yearly for infrastructure and how much more to the different bills increase that amount? will need a quick answer david by the house is about to come in. speedy right now highway investment at the federal level is $46 billion a year, transit is probably roughly 12. in in 2020 the total amount of highway and bridge construction activity from all levels of government was $90 billion. >> host: david bauer the president and ceo of americand

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