conflict, a civil war drives rates of terrorism. >> and in 1986 there was an immigration amnesty, president reagan, is that due again in your view. well, listen, we've got more than 10 million people residing illegally in the united states. whether it was president trump viewed as anti-immigration or obama before him, they're not all being deported. it would rip this society apart to do try to do that. they're here, i can't see how we benefit by having them here illegally when they could be here legally. let's bring them above the board and get them on the books and make it official, but i also think you have to couple that with an increased path to legal migration because if you don't just like before you'll have the reset button on more people come illegally.

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