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1000 community centers to create wi-fi enabled with students from low income families can get the tools they need to be ready for anything. comcast supports c-span as the public service along with these other television providers giving you a front procedure to democracy . >> representative mikey cheryl is from the 11th district in new jersey. she, is a member of the house armed services can committee . 10 year navy veteran, welcome . >> welcomed. >> we start off by asking about the us andnato in the ukraine war. are we doing enough ? >> as you may know i had the opportunity to go to ukraine a couple weeks ago with the foreign affairs committee. i said on the house armed services committee and i've also previously been on russian policy after when i was in the navy and then chief of the us navy european headquarters so i wanted to i go over there and assess what
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nato was doing if we were doing enough so we stopped first in brussels. and spoke to our nato allies. something that struck me is under the previous administration our relationship with our nato sh allies and become a bit frayed. i have never seen our partnership prospect. i've been working with our nato allies for many years now and i've never seen the partnership stronger. we acted in concert with our european allies. when i went to ukraine and spoke to president zelensky i got that message of unity and i was incredibly impressed at the will of these ukrainian people. i was a member of the on how mi services committee and i said if you have what you need to fight the russians and he said, he talked about what we had provided, what he could use and then he said i don't need troops on the ground because we will fight the russians.
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certainly the bravery we've seen from the ukrainians. the will to protect their homeland has truly been inspirational to me. >> sherrill says nato gave us every opportunity to change course. what course youthink vladimir putin is now on ? >> it seems pretty apparent he's decided that he is going to work to hold and take over ukraine. the invasion has not gone as as he had hoped it would go, as his military hoped it would go. we've seen the convoy they're not making headway that they had wanted to . they certainly have a tough road ahead. we have seen some successes especially in the south from the russian forces but i think this is a longer proposition, one that i think
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putin has been surprised to see the will of the ukrainian people. i think he had thought that there were a lot of people that would be supportive of russia. there are a lot of russian speakers there but this is in 2014 . in 2014 russia invaded and quickly took over areas of ukraine. but i think what that did was to consolidate the will and sovereignty of the ukrainian people. part of that national identity is against russia, against russian occupation and one woman said she knows what goes on in the areas russia controls. she posts about houston, you get thrown in jail and she couldn't live like that. the ukrainian people know what's at stake and are willing to fight for. >> congresswoman sherrillwith us until 8:30 eastern, we welcome your call .
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republicans, 202-748-8000 one. independents and others 202-748-8000 two. representative sherrill, some of your colleagues have said about the president in terms of delivery of lethal and nonlethal agent hasn't been enough and it's been too slow . what is your view? >> we were working very hard, ourintelligence community has been incredible . the work that they have done, the professionalism. it really has been sort of jaw-dropping. how they been able to provide that so what that intelligence has done is to consolidate our allies. you've heard again and again from our allies that they so appreciate the information we're providing them. the sharing we're doing with them. if you recall putin wants to divide the world into the us, russia and chinese fears of influence. to totally cut out our european allies. i think that the ability of
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the us to provide that democratic leadership has been soimportant . and so we have been working to get the ukrainians the assets they need to fight t this battle. we startedcertainly once we began to understand russia was massing troops at the border and going to invade . it appears we've worked with our european allies. they provided a bit of material. we've also put forth those nato allies around the region. because nai know places like poland and romania they're very concerned that this is just going to keep going as he invades and moves through the ukraine. we have provided a great deal of support and we're providing more. thepresident asked for more >> should we be surprised by that number, 1 million refugees ?
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>> it's just, the pictures are so sad to see what putin has done with this unprovoked war. the united states, no one had fired a shot and he decided to invade and this, to see the refugees, it really is heartbreaking.and i think that's one area that we're also going to need to provide a great deal of support. >> host: we talked about this with our viewers and the headline here from axios, zelensky urges president biden to offer a no-fly zone. what are your thoughts about the nato no-fly zone? >> president biden announced the no-fly zone for russia over the united states . any of our european allies have different ones that instituted different no-fly zones. i certainly am in favor of
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putting as many constraints on putin and the russians as possible. >> host: do you think that should be a military, with american jets and forcing military no-fly zone over ukraine? >> i don't see going to that extent right now but remember we have, what we want to do is protect our nato allies. give the ukrainian people all the support they can to fight russia. but at the same time, russia is a nuclear power and we do not want to get into ahot war with russia . >> host: let me ask you before we get to colors one more thing about the money the president has asked forin terms of traditional aid .a total of $6.4 billion, 3 and a half billion from the defense department, 2.9
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million for state department and usaid. where does that stand in terms ofit getting past the house ? >> guest: we're pressing our omnibus package right now,the president would like to see that in the omnibus .. i'm not sure if that timetable is going to work but we're certainly working hard now to come to an agreement on how we're going to provide support for the ukrainians. >> representative mikie sherrill, we go first to shalimar florida and hear from the republican light. >> caller: good morning. i've been with you people talking about crania in 2014 and trying to blame it all on president obama and joe biden . but wasn't paul manafort in ukraine handling the election
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in 2014 just before the invaded crimea? and wasn't that kind of an initiative when paul manafort came here and was in the trump's campaign, started with the mueller reports. i can't say i've read the entire mueller report. but i've read the indictment of the 25 russians that came out before the reportactually did . and it'samazing . i wonder if we listened to what was in that mueller report if we would be here today. and in the end, as soon as trump got in office he fired me on may 9, 2017 and on the 10th he had left his office and we didn't find that from our sources in the united states u. we found that out from russian tv. i ended up in the first impeachment andthen we had an
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insurrection .and tucker carlson is on fox news and i'm wondering is vladimir putin listening to tucker carlson and getting his own? >> host: we will let you go there, congressman sherrill. >> certainly pieces of the mueller report were lincredibly disturbing . and the russian misinformation campaign that we saw in our election system , trying to sow discord. not in 2016, trying to really weigh in on one side or the other, just trying to sow discord and break this country apart which to me was kind of jaw-dropping and some of the ways they did that. and then the holding up some
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of the weaponry to ukraine was really, really upsetting to me. this is one of the things that led to the first impeachment of president trump. as many of your viewers know, ukraine its nuclear weapons with the understanding it bewould be protected. we did that by giving them certain pieces of equipment like javelins. so congress had given them the javelins in the trump ministration, with elbows in an attempt to strong arm ukrainian government to do as well . also certainly as we're thinking about enforcing , getting the support ukrainians need, how important it is and we've seen that over time but yes, i agree. the mueller report and some of the revolutions regarding russian interference here, it's very very concerning. >> how concerned are you on
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the recent decision by belarus to rearm nuclear weapons? >> i think like a 1.8 any discussion of nuclear weapons very seriously. i amvery close to belarus rearming . i also concerned hard to understand. the previous caller discussed putin's mindset a t bit and i think we're having a difficult time understanding where he thinks this is going to end because it seems from the outside things up on very poorly for him. he didn't want nato troops on his border, he now has brought nato troops to his border. he didn't want, he kind of wanted to decide the united states. we are very united. if you watched the state of the union hall house, republicans and democrats an alike are united in support
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of defending ukraine against russianaggression . he doesn't like the transatlantic relationship, united states relationship with europe. our nato sopartnership and that is on more solid footing and i'veever seen it so it's hard to understand his mindset . what he's thinking and where he plans to go from your. >> let's hear from sam innew jersey on the democrat line . >> tanks for taking my call just a few things . i would beseech your listeners and all americans just to get a little more educated. i think another color earlier in new york talked about the lack of information but it's out there. the major media outlets are not publishing it. i don't want to take up a lot of time because this goes back but when the woman said
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that in 2014, crimea was attacked, what they're not telling you but no one knows that's a fact, victoria newland made a mistake of not planning to correctly by noticing that the government
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250 people dead in the last week already. we are talking women and we are talking women and let's have balance here. >> okay, sam, we'll hear from the congresswoman. >> i think the bombing we are seeing in certain areas even targeting areas like schools and government buildings is horrific. again, why putin decided to in voan unprovoked way attack ukrae is really upsetting. i can't disagree with the ukrainians want to fight this.me liberty and freedom are those
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sthings to me. as humans we have a right to derm our government and derm how we will live. we have. a right to derm how our future looks like. up and down russian rule people do notot have basic rights we te for granted. they can't complain about their government. they go to jail. they are monitors. they can't live as individual humans that we as americans would recognize. thesee. values, while there is o one that hats war more than a veteran, we have seen it firsthand and it's horrible. to remind you, you know, this was an unprovoked attack by russia. ibu can't disagree with the decision to fight that. >> let's hear from shannon on the republican line.ir
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good morning. >> good morning, my son is stationed in poland and helping anwith the humanitarian crisis. what's going on is horrific. my position we should not get involved nato should not get involved. we shouldn't do a no-fly zone because that makes us involved. you mentioned president biden and aid to ukraine. president trump made no demands. you failed to mention when bidet withheld aid to ukraine and demanded that a prosecutor be fired that was investigating corruption where his son and the big guy was also referenced.
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they were profitting from ukraine and receiving money as we all know you don't mention that because he's a member of the republican party. for previous callers it's not an blm issue. a lot has been about blm. this is not an blm issue. we should allue be afraid. fearful as one country how far putin is whetherring to take this. >> congresswoman cheryl. >> so, the prosecutor that was fired was seen as corrupt not just by the united states butit allies. we worked on democracy programs in ukraine to end some of the corruption.o it's known as a very corruption
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country. several oligarch. the thing that struck me when speaking to u.s. a and groups there we have seen roll backs in democracy and the measures that weha take to see how democracies are functioning. we have seen roll backs in the region with some of our nato allyur countries. the movement has helped in the wake of other countries move backwards or move forward in the democracy program. so, you know, this is a country that wants very much to form a better democracy as we would say in the united states.
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a more perfect union. they are not without deep, deep flaws. it's like they have not been let into nato yet. one of the measures how do you end corruption and create better democratic programs. so, they are working towards that. to see that assort of contrary to other areas.r the movement towards democracy is just more heartbreaking to see this democracy that putin is attacking. >> reporting on the weapons coming into ukraine from the united states. they pour them in risking conflict with russia. brussels is proud to provide aid. theyus might see this as an dangerous intervention. do you think they will try to
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stop those weapons from coming into ukraine. we are working to make suree that doesn't happen we are working in concert with our allies. looking veryt carefully if in y way we would somehow, you know, create a situation where we would be in conflict withic russia. i agree with the previous caller. you know, we do not want to get into a war with russia. making sure we follow the recalls of war abdomen not entering into the conflict and a value held by not justt the united states but nato allies as well. >> onn the independent line this isnt jim in michigan. go ahead. >> hi, good morning. >> good morning. >> i am appalled we have not done anything to stop russia.
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they will keep marching east. that's the problem. what would be his reasons to stop and say play nice because nobody is standing up to him. if you don't t stand up to him u will keep rolling east. >> right, that'sg a great point from g your caller and something the united states and nato are concerned about it. we put added troops. inad facts the previous caller's son was sent to poland. we put troops in nato, lithuania, all of our neighboring partners so make sure putin cannot continue to march east. he will be met with nato and the united states troops at the border.
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io you know, we have been clear in messaging to the russians that that's the red line. we have article 5. we have article 5 treaty obligations to defend them. an attack on one is an attack on all. that straight, messaging, and understanding that that would cross a red line is powerful. it's the hope with that combined with the troops there will stop russia from any movement farther east. >> let's getia onecall here. cay in new york city. the democrats line. >> good morning, representative cheryl. i'm interested in understanding the negotiations we had with putin. from what i understand biden's position was that we had to keep the door alwayson open for ukrae to be nato member and putin position was the
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opposite. i'd like to know did we offer putin, you said we gave him everyav chance. did we offer him the concept of ukraine being a neutrality zone with no nato, u.s., eu, or russiann involvement in ukraine? >> we didid not. that's contrary to really our values and the idea of a sovereignei nation deciding it's own treaties and fate. we were very clear that ukraine would not, they had work to go to become a nato partner. that wouldn't happen in the near future. it really is ukraine as a sovereign nation, the leadership of ukraine's decision if they would like to join certain alliancesin oratory to join certain alliances. therehe are countries that haven their constitution they won't
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join nato and remain neutral. this is a decision they could have made on it's own. not something the united states can make for it. >> our guest is in her second terms. representing northern new jersey. congresswoman, thank you for beforing on washington journal this morning. >> thank you for having me. jerome powell testified on the economy. you can watch it tonight on 8:00 eastern on cspan 2 or on our free video app c-span now. american history tv saturday's on c-span two. at 2:00 p.m. eastern on the presidency part one of our eight
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