be joined by national security adviser jake sullivan. they are expected to talk about the situation in ukraine and eastern europe. we will take you there live with it starts heree on c-span2. >> a morning for front-page headlines and page pictures as well. this is "wall street journal" this morning. the headline, russia progresses it's grinding a attack to the front page of the "washington post" ukraine refuses to surrender mariupol. more pictures are of discretion of ukraine and this the front page of the "washington times" today with no surrender, mariupol faces more horror from russia. and the seizure of mariupol very much also on the minds of members of congress yesterday. here's a couplend tweets from lindsey graham saying the distraction of mariupol by russian forces is one of the greatest war crimes in modern history and the must be accountability from top to bottom.

this from marco rubio republican of florida saying in a war with plenty of heroism, the single most inspiring stance so far may be the what happening right now in mariupol. defenders were cut off from resupply and refuse to offer to surrender. in mariupol also the focus of reporting from "the associated press" in the past couple of days. this tweet from ap getting a lot of attention yesterday. .. arrived in mariupol before dawn. before they left, the seaport lay in ruins and this is their story, from those two journalists. they are being called to the last foreign journalists in the city, now left in the wake of the siege. ukraine's mariupol descends into despair. this is worth the read.

here is the lead from the story on 20 days in mariupol. the russians were hunting us down is how the story begins. they had a list of names, and they were closing in. we were the only international journalists left in the craney and city of mariupol -- ukrainian city of mariupol. surgeons gave us white scrubs to wear as camouflage. a dozen soldiers burst in. where are the journalists? i looked at their armbands, blue for ukraine, and i tried to cockily the odds that they were russians in disguise. i stepped forward to identify myself. they said, we are here to get you out. the walls shook from machine gun fire outside. it seemed safer to stay inside, but the ukrainian soldiers were under orders to take us with them. that story goes on to say, we reached an

soldiers attract us from the hospital if they catch you though get you on camera and ymake you say everything that you assumed is alive. all your efforts and everything you've done in mariupol will be in thing. the officer who had begged us to show the world the dying city now pleaded with us to go. suggested towards the thousands of shattered cars. that story, a new associated press journalist, the last independent journalist to leave . this morning we are talking about the latest on the russianinvasion of ukraine and getting your thoughts in this first hour and our second ohour today . we will move forward with the continued confirmation hearings of judge jackson but for now yourthoughts on the latest out of ukraine .

four democrats 202-748-8000 one and from republicans independent, 202-248-8000 two. as you're calling in this from yesterday, pentagon press briefing, the press officer there with his assessment of why russian forces have not yet been able to overcome ukrainian forces in mariupol and throughout the country >> when you look at what they managed to do in 2016it's not that impressive . we believe they're in control of khersan but even then the ukrainians lost to go after them and we know they moved up that post towards mariupol so we assess that they're in control of a town called bermansk and the ukrainians are fighting, you see how bravely their fighting for that port city so i think

what we're seeing here is the russians have been flummoxed. they've been frustrated. they have failed to achieve a lot of their objectives on the ground. and because they are essentially stalled outside kyiv, outside kharkiv and so many other places that they are stepping up there what we in the pentagon called long-range fire, bombardment from afar whether that's cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, artillery fire . they're longing an awful lot of hardware into the citiesto try to force their surrender . >> don herbert yesterday from the pentagon in his press briefing . becoming a staple of thedaily press briefings along with those from the white house . showing you from yesterday but also the phone lines to you about the latest out of ukraine, the russian invasion of ukraine.

up first out of buffalo this morning, that line from democrats, go ahead. >> i'm just calling about the war. we got nato, right. russia can't fight the united states and nato. what you're seeing, the devastation. the most damage is the air. the air. we've got to do something about that air issue . why would russia go into the ukraine and tear up the country? i don't understand that. >> ronald, you would be one of those who supports shutting down the airspace over ukraine. if you think nato forces perhaps engaging russia to create a shutdown of that airspace? >> yes because you have no choice. who didn't isn't backing down .

and we've got to do something g about the air because the ground thing is stall. so they're doing more damage inthe air . >> president biden heading to europe later this week to meet with european leaders including nato allies. there have been proposals from nato peacekeeping forces and a no-fly zone which you're talking about and yesterday more of a preview of the presidents trip to europe including talks about ukrainian and russian peace negotiations and whether the us is involved with those, this from the white house briefing. >> the potential discussion with ukrainian leaders and russia. has white house or the president been in communication with ukrainians

and given any sort of counseling on how to go about these talks with russian leaders. >> we are in touch with the ukrainian seniorgovernment officials every day . the president speaks with, has spoken with president zelensky a number of times and we convey over all these discussions we support any diplomatic effort that they choose to take part in. the role that we feel we can play most effectively is by continuing to provide a broad range of security assistance, military assistance to them as well as economic and humanitarian assistance to strengthen their hand in these negotiations and what we always convey publicly and privately as we are watching their actions, not just what words they say but we just continue to support their efforts and whatever decisions they make choosing to engage diplomatically.

>> go ahead. >> the president set up. if they don't work out is world war iii. the president degrees? >> without knowing more of what he means by that i would say our view and the president's view is the way we need to avoid world war iii is preventing the united states iand having direct military involvement on the ground and the same on nato's direct involvement on the ground and the most effective role we can play is by providing that extensive military assistance that we have been providing. economic and humanitarian assistance. i can't assess. obviously many people speak or hear more from the president zelensky soon he can speak more to what he meant by that. >> jen yesterday, phones are open for you to talk. ukraine is the conflict there intensifies a lot of focus in the past couple of days on the siege of mariupol, that port city there that now is surrounded. richard in atsan francisco democrats, good morning.

>> good morning. you know, you can't of these a dictator. he's a megalomaniac so just trying to reconstruct the soviet union. he's taken belarus and we really should have done more about crimea. nato, all of us but i don't know. right now i think they need more anti-ballistic missile defense systems and i'm sure a lot of supplies are coming in but really, they done a job in stalling them on the ground because you know, most of russians, their hearts are not even into ukraine. they probably have relatives. they could be blowing up the building. so but ultimately, he's going to have to back down. i don't think he's going to

get too far intoukraine with all these systems coming in one misstep , he could accidentally do something to anyone of the nato countries around there and then we will be forced into a situation where he'sgoing to face nato . i don't think this guy is crazy enough to want to destroy his own country. when probably a revolution is starting to bubble up inside his country already. so if they had any sense, the russian people at all with the oligarchs, they should just remove them but that's going to take time. the american people have got to realize we've never suffered dysfunction like europe and other areas of the world by having our own country invaded and bombed. we have to be thinking, we have to what it means to throw molotov cocktails on the tank in broadway on new

york. you cannot appease a t dictator. that's where hitler got started and look what happened. >> you're talking weapons systems being sent to ukraine , an interesting story from the wall street journal. i don't know if you seen that the us is sending soviet air defenses to ukraine and this is the story from wall street journal. the us sending some of the soviet-made air equipment that secretly acquired decades ago to bolster the ukrainian military and seek to fend off russian air and missile attacks. the system with one us official said includes the faa are decades old and obtained by the us so we could examine the technology used by the russian military which moscow had afforded around the world. the weapons are uifamiliar to ukrainian military which inherited that type of equipment following the breakup of the soviet union.

the pentagon declined to comment to reach into its little-known arsenal of soviet weapons which comes as the biden administration is mounting a push to expand ukraine's air defense capabilities. us over decades has acquired a small number of soviet missile defense systems so they can be examined by us intelligence experts. the secretive efforts received public attention in 1994 when the soviet-made transport plane was observed in huntsville alabama at an airport in sight of the major highway . it was later influenced the plane was becarrying an air defense system the us have acquired in belarus as part of a clandestine program involving a pentagon contractor that caused $100 million . that according to a former official. if you want to read more from the wall street journal today. pamela and putnam valley new york, you are next. are you with us pamela? >> caller: yes i am. i just was feeling like why

isn't the ukraine bombing russia? why don't they go on the attack instead of being b defensive . maybe putin would change his strategy if they ukraine's started attacking russia. that's one thing. the other thing is why don't they take their best warriors like y they did david and goliath and fight it out instead of letting them kill these other people. >> we talked to ben jensen yesterday of the center for strategic international studies talk about that question stand he pointed out there actually has been some limited ukrainian strikes just across the ukrainian border into russia of some of their missile systems, not too many of those but there actually has been attacks on russian positions, russian gathering points across the border if you want to go back and watch that segment, it was yesterday in our se9:00 hour on the program, all that

available on our website. phone lines again this morning as were talking about the latest out of ukraine democrats 202-748-8000 . and independents it's 202748 8002. back to the white house briefing room yesterday. it was deputy national security adviser and newberger on potential cyber attacks against the west and against the united states that the white house now worried about as the russian invasion ofukraine continues . >> this afternoon the president released a statement and fact sheet regarding cyber threats to the homeland. urging private sector partners to take immediate action to shore uptheir defenses against potential cyber attacks . we previously warned about the potential for russia to conduct cyber attacks against the united states including as a response to the unprecedented economic costs

that the us and allies and partners imposed in response to russia's further invasion of ukraine. today we are reiterating those warnings. and we're doing so based on evolving threats intelligence that the russian government is exploring options for potential cyber attacks on critical infrastructure inthe united states . to be clear, there is no certainty there will be a cyber incident on critical infrastructure. so why am i here? because this is a call to action and a call to responsibility for all of us. at the presidents direction the administration has worked extensively over the last year to prepare to meet this sort of threat. providing unprecedented warning and advice to the private sector and mandating cyber security measures where we have the authority to do so . >> that's from the white

house briefing room, more on the phone lines as usual for democrats, as we take you through the latest amid taday 27 at this point of the russian invasion of ukraine this is bobby house of maine, democrat, good morning . >> good morning sir. i just think it's a shame what's going on over in ukraine. i wasn't asked marine back in the 70s and i've trained with the turkish army in the european theater and turned them into the turkish marine corps. i don't see why these other people in europe don't go in there and stop 10. the world war iii to be as already started. it's just hasn't got out of europe yet. i can't believe we're just sitting back and letting russia bully america and it has nothing to do with our president which is a great man, joe biden.

if it wasn't for the trader donald trump that was president that made an. [bleep] out of this country to everybody in the world, we would not be where weare today with russia . >> body in maine, this is joe out of arkansas. magnolia arkansas, independent, good morning. >> caller: what i have to say is the man that just called is so wrong on president donald trump. he worked his heart out and he did tremendous things for our country but here's the thing aboutukraine . why can't the president of the ukraine send some pilots to poland, get ready in their

mates that they want to give them. and when the russian planes come over, take off over there and take them out? >> that's joe in arkansas, this is dylan out ofrockville maryland, republican . >> i definitely do believe the us is doing a lot to help out ukraine but similar to the american revolution i don't think ukraine should accept russian ultimatums and stand down.e now is the time to show that ukrainians power and really not surrendering but actually fight back owwhen they're doing. utilizing these counteroffensive strikes that ai they're doing across the russian border and i do think they should pick it up. they should strike the russians at their core in moscow. >> dylan in maryland this morning. the siege of mariupol getting a lot of attention today and members of congress focusing on that in there to yesterday

. there's some of the destruction. that from a mall in kyiv that was hit yesterday. those pictures and videos getting a lot of circulation after that attack but amid that description this column by rex kupke. putin shows he has no strategy beyond cruelty. rex writing there's nothing strategic about bombing a city to dust but that's what russian president a lot of your putin is doing in the coastal ukrainian city of mariupol. there's nothing strategic about killing civilians and schoolchildren 400 people. this is not the work of a master military strategist. it's far simpler. it's the hideous untouchable actions of a bully angry that he's not getting his way. putin wanted ukraine, we

tried to take it and now he's losing thousands ofsoldiers. the world is united against him and ukrainians have shown ferocity that will be remembered long after putin is gone and forgotten . rex with his column, if you want to read more this is chuck out of california, an independent, good morning . >> i'd like to say that i can't ... it is intensifying. i'm glad they are resisting. i'm a little surprised we're giving them that old of equipment but i guess that's what we have and i think we should give them as much as we can and apparently this is all we can at this time. >> host: there's been discussion about the difference between offense and defense of weapons. is there a distinction in your mind, does it matter to you ? >> yes because it means something to them and it unifies all of them and us. i think it might be a little bit on the psychological side

but yet itdoes do the effect physically . and they commented this morning about how they shot one or two missiles offensively into russia and ve how that affects their psyche . of the war. it gives them some winning. >> jumped up in california, this is alex back invirginia. ashford virginia independent, go ahead . >> i just have comments. you know, when the ukrainian army fired shells on don box 40 years, nobody paid too much attention to that. i think the worst would be prevented if biden gave russia the information that ukraine would not join nato. just one piece of paper and that could be prevented and i

also unconcerned they don't want to help nato on the border. nato proved that is not a disparate organization but by destroying countries like yugoslavia and syria, i think that the nato purposely put that in situation to go to russia into war withukraine . douglas how many people will be killed . >> you point out assurances and assigned piece of paper. colors the past couple of weeks brought up the treaty signed by russia, by the united states, by the united kingdom after the fall of the soviet union ensuring the territorial integrity of ukraine if they gave up the nuclear weapons s that were there that had been there from the soviet time.

that was agreed to by russia, by the united states, by the uk and here we aretoday . >> writes, but we shouldn't forget it was a coup in 2013 and the people of eastern ukraine, they did not take this. they didn't want this to happen. that's why all this warfare years ago and the tradition is only ukraine and russia should sign an agreement as soon as possible. including unification and recognizing don boss and crania as soon as possible. >> this is rebecca in baton rouge louisiana,democrat . >> i think that trying diplomacy with a psychopath

from russia is a waste of time. hedoesn't want to negotiate . he wants ukraine so he will do anything sonecessary to gain the rest of ukraine after getting the crimean peninsula . what president zelensky needs is as many offenses and defenses weapons he could use against russia because this psychopath from russia and i will not respect him by giving him a name will not stop ukraine and we are already involved. he deserves to have the jets to bomb back at the trucks and tanks that are coming into his country.

no, we don't need to bomb russia because that wouldn't be fair. it's the russian people that we are not against , just putin and the people that are doing his bidding like the speaker at the un counsel that is telling lie after lie only what putin tells him to do . >> rebecca out of louisiana. more from the white house briefing room. president biden heading to europe later this week, set for a series of meetings on thursday, set to meet with the heads of nato and later expected to stop in poland but jen psaki asked why the president was specifically not making astop in ukraine when he's ineurope . this is what she had to say . >> on twitter, the president did not plan to go to ukraine on his trip.

given the prime ministers of poland and czech republic did last week and president zelensky was for others to do the same can you talk about whether president biden had explored going to ukraine all and what considerations went into the factors either way . >> we have not explore that option. i tweeted, i guess i should say because there was some confusion about this question and we did not want to leave that out there as an unanswered question . but certainly any president of the united states traveling into a war zone requires not only security considerations but also an enormous amount of resources on the ground which is always a factor for us as we make consideration but also the president and our security team he could have the most effective and impactful trip by convening these meetings with nato leaders, the g-7, the you and brussels to determine both continued

military coordination, humanitarian and economic coordination as well as by going to visit poland right next door to talk about everything from refugees, refugee assistance and continued assistance we can all provide together so it was a decision about what would be most effective on the trip. >> a lot more about that trip coming up in an hour. jamie mcintyre with the washington examiner, senior writer on defense and national security there just seeking to preview that trip. we will take one more call on the latest out of ukraine and the russian invasion and then we're going to switch topics to judge jackson's supreme court confirmation hearing. that's a two of that beginning in about 90 minutes . and want to leave plenty of time for you to call in to talkabout that . so jerry's been waiting in dayton ohio. we will take that call and switch topics. go ahead on ukraine. >> it's gary. >> sorry about that gary.

>> i just wanted to get a suggestion for you guys. a while back when this pain started out, i heard a story that the, and came out against russia and or put in anyway and i wanted to find out about who, what other countries out there that came out against putin in this war of aggression, i would like to know all of our former enemies like vietnam and all those places, what they had to say about it. and then to i would like to see one thing that might make putin sit up and take notice and it's really being wrong about this is malaysia. they were the first ones to attack attacked by russia when that plane flew over

crimea i guess and they shot down the plane.you would think malaysia would have come out against putin on this. and i love to see malaysia come out and say we're now declaring war against russia. malaysia isa small country, they're not going to , but they could restrict russians from coming to their country and all that kind of thing so i think malaysia should absolutely declare war on russia. >> i don't know where malaysia stands but where do you stand on the recommendations, taking her phone calls now.it's now 7:30 on the east coast and we're switching topics talking about judge brown jackson's supreme court confirmation. day one yesterday, day to today. there's going to be a day three and a day four of hearings. these hearings today, tomorrow and thursday begin

at 9 am eastern and are showing them here on c-span so that's why this program for the next couple of days will end at 9 am as opposed to 10 am and time want to hear your thoughts. did you watch the first day of the hearings, what did you think and what are your expectations for date 2. democrats 202-748-8000 is the number. republicans 20274 8001, independence 2002 748-8000 two. phone lines now yourson that topic . there hearing, 90 minutes until now that they too is going to begin. you can see the earliest members of the press and congressional staff there at the senate judiciary committee hearing room. it will be the tape room where she was testifying yesterday and we're going to take you there live at theend of this program . here's one of the headlines from yesterday's hearing . the kavanaugh tensions

simmer. republicans clearly not over their previous judicial wounds as the sub headline. democrats downplay the influence of dark money and judicial groups in the ketanji brown jackson's confirmation. i want to hear your thoughts. what did you hear when you watched, what was her take away? line for democrats speak for i watched the repeat of the hearing yesterday and i was very impressed by both the pro and the con statements by senators. first of all i thought sheldon whitehouse was very instructive in reminding people about the role of dark money inpoliticizing the republican nominees for the court . most of the last four years and it was the height of hypocrisy for republicans to try to claim that they're

looking for someone who was going to go straight down the middle, nonpolitical nominee from the democrats when they have been doing nothing but politicizing the process on their side for so long . and i found it really hard to listen seriously to people like lindsey graham saying that well, we have always had a much more cordial attitude toward democratic nominees than democratic senators have had towards republican nominees. it may have something to do with the facts that the democrats have been picking people that deserve90 out of 100 senators getting their votes because they are nonpartisan , qualified and generally noncontroversial candidates who haven't been involved in a history of abuse in their past. and for them to ignore that fact as the reason why the democrats have sometimes been less cordial is absurd. and i just hope that are you

there? >> finisher, and adam. >> i just hope that the nominee can maintain that amazing composure because the level of hypocrisy i'm hearing if i were the nominee would prompt me to have an outburst and probably they would have throw me off and disqualify me. most people can't take that level of hypocrisy and keep a straight face. >> that's allen in new york, that is buried on the republican line, good morning . >>. >> first off, i somewhat agree with the last color. i think the politicization of the process is way out of hand but leaving that aside i think as a republican, i want herto get a fair shake . i think the court needs to better represent the united states.

i didn't like the idea that you set out parameters say i'm going to eliminate everything from a to white and only takes z but having done that, you came up with the parameters you want, she seems qualified. i hope they give her a fair shake and i expect when were done she will be voted in as a justice. >> that's very out of north carolina. republicans and independents as usual, there's a hearing room. it's going to be getting 90 minutes and this is judge brown jackson from yesterday. the first day of her hearings for her opening statements. >> members of this committee, if i am confirmed i commit to you that i will work productively to support and defend the constitution and in this grand experience of american democracy that has endured over these past 246

years. i have been a judge for nearly a decade now and i take that responsibility and my duty to be independent very seriously. i decide cases from neutral posture. i evaluate the facts and i interpret and apply the law to the facts of the case before me without fear or favor, consistent with my judicial oath. i know that my role as a judge is a limited one. that the constitution empowers me only to decide cases and controversies that areproperly presented . and i know that my judicial role is further constrained by careful adherence to precedent. >> judge brown jackson,

she'll be doing a lot more today taking questions from the senate judiciarycommittee . getting your thoughts on day one, your expectations of day to this is anita of 14 alabama, republican. your next. >> i don't have anything per se against the lady but i would need to hear a little bit more from her about the issues that marsha blackburn raised. about the child porn and the other issues that she had. i think that needs to be addressed. marsha blackburn really raised some issues that need to be answered . i hope and i think and i really do believe that the republicans will not attack her the way bore such and cavanagh were attacked. we need to have an open mind here and me being one of

those, i think those issues really really need to be addressed. and on top of that, the democrats have a majority so i think because she will probably get in regardlessbut anyway, you have a blessed day and thank you . >> the new york times fact checker taking up this line that was first brought up by senator josh hawley of missouri. senator marsha blackburn talking about their concerns about some of these issues, her record on instancing of child sex users and judge ketanji brown jackson's views on those sentences. the new york times fact checker saying in a series of posts mister hawley judge jackson's legal recommendation and remarks and sentencing sessions out of context on this issue and miss blackburn's statements

are a further distortion noting in to mister holly said judge jackson advocated for drastic changes on how the law treats sex offenders by eliminating the mandatory minimum sentences on child porn as a member of the sentencing commission which advises congress on sentencing guidelines. this was an overly broad characterization of sentencing recommendations made by the commission and it also omits that the commission is bipartisan and issued its recommendation as a full body, not as individuals. the commission noted in the report existing sentencing guidelines are crimes involving images of child sexual abuse failed to differentiate between offenders in terms of their probabilities and the results in a penalty range are too severe for some offenders and too lenient for other offenders. if you want toread more of the fact check that in today's new york times . this is cary, reno nevada, independent. >> caller: good morning. i'd like to make a comment to the audience about how judges

get to become eligible to be even nominated to the supreme court. i've been a lawyer for almost 40 years and the way it works , generally speaking is that based upon an administration when a republican or democrat those that become eligible for appointment to the federal district court system , pursuant to a recommendation from the governor of aparticular state . the same with the united states attorneys, it's no different. hence what occurs is a person that becomes nominated to becoming a united states district court judge comes from a political background. the truth of the matter is that the vast majority of district court judges come from the legal system that represent corporations.

now, that's not necessarily bad the truth is when one represents corporations in practice for they become nominated to the district court system whether district court for district court of appeals, their experience is representing these corporations. we all know that corporations exist only in the form of making money. they have no heart, they have no soul. and it exists forever. it's not a human being. and when you represent those types of entities and you become in the district court system, you take that experience with you which is not all bad. >> what would be a better way here and what are your thoughts on judge jackson's background, yes coming up

through the court system but also havingthat experience as a public defender ? >> i kind of missed your question and that's my point. in this particular instance we have a woman jurist whose experience is in the field of representing people. human beings. true, she was a public defender and everyone is entitled to representation and when one represents yes, the vast majority come to be found guilty. that does not put her in a situation where she would be last less able to interpret the constitution. in fact it broadens the scope . all of us who are listening to this program will know someone that probably was involved in the law in a bad way but to have that experience judge jackson to take the defense when if you look at the background of the

supreme court , all of them basically were came from the judicial system representing entities that were quote in standing. many of them never represented a person their entire life. hence if judge jackson is accepted as a nominee, she will have to experience that all of us can benefit from. even if she was representing people that we find that are not particularly the type of people we want to be. >> and in jamaica new york is next, democrat, good morning. >> good morning. it's as an african-american woman of 80 something years

old, i am just so proud to list to have seen this time, when a court is so many years have never chosen a black woman to be on the court. so this is a proud moment for a woman of 80 somethingyears old . i also think that those supreme court should never be a life term job. i think it should be maybe 10 years and then change. it's too much power for them to be there for a lifetime job. i don'tbelieve in a lifetime job like this . thank you. >> and jamaica new york, just reading through your tweets as you're having this conversation on our social media pages. from twitter, tony says the court doesn't need tolook like america or represent our desires . it needs to faithfully interpret the constitution as it was written, not how we would like it to be. the constitution has to stand as a limiting document and mlb agreeing with that color, the one from nevada, reno

sing the majority don't work with criminal clients and not people who need public defenders. her experience is unique in that regard. jack is in wisconsin, a republican, good morning . >> morning. the way that the justice was chosen, joe biden wanted to have a black female on their that takes away a lot of candidates. a lot of possibly qualified candidates. the other thing is that reading through her couple articles on her appellate decisions, she has been overturned many many times. so i don't know why we want to have somebody on the supreme court that has been overturned as many times as she has. the other people are talking about the constitution. it's the leading documents and that's what they have to

represent is the constitution. not that they came from this type of neighborhood for this type of schooling they represent companies or represent individuals. it has to do with how the constitution applies to the specific case and not the specific person. >> that's jack in wisconsin. this is lindsey graham yesterday giving their opening statements to the supremecourt confirmation hearings on the senate judiciary committee . this is what republican lindsey graham had to say. >> if you're hispanic or african-american conservative it's about your philosophy . now it's going to be about the historic nature of the pit. and it's going to be about your philosophy. the bottom line here is when it is about philosophy whether it's somebody of color on our side, it's about where all races if it's the

question and that don't fly with us. we'reused to it by now, or at least i am . it's where going to ask you what we think you need to be asked and senator holly, you need to ask about her record as a district court judge. you should and i hope you do and hopefully look at what she says. very fair game. now, president biden had a choice here. and he has every right to make it. elections have consequences. we had many qualified applicants to choose from. he chose you. michelle childs, district court judge from south carolina supported by jim clyburn. that was in the next. i think it came down to about two, three or four people. don't know for sure but that's what the president's reporting and when it came to judge child's , this cerebellar group, senator whitehouse you talk about dark money, you may be onto something . this group funded by soros

and some other liberal billionaire, they got so many groups i can't name them all now but they basically said if you think child's, you may have a primary coming. they afl-cio said judge child's was a union buster. the attacks from the left against judge child's was really pretty vicious to be honest with you. so you say judge jackson, you don't have any judicial philosophy per se. well, somebody on the left thinks you do. or they wouldn't have spent the money they spent to get