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march on washington taking place d.c.saturday here in revenue remind viewers what poor people campaign is and what you are marching for. >> we have tens of thousands of people already over 500 buses alone coming to the mass of poor people's low-wage workers assembly mall march on washington and to the polls. but the poor people's campaign is saying, whether it's people from appalachia, alabama, massachusetts or mississippi, that we cannot have a country where we have 140 million people living in poverty. i worked 60.9% of black people, 30% of white people. that is 66 million white people i could go out the numbers 52% of our children 43% of adults. when we are the wealthiest nation in the country if we just raged the minimum wage to living wage it into my people rise up out of poverty front-line people we've got 87 million people

either uninsured or underinsured. all this creates a level of depth seven her people are dying a day from property before the pandemic a quarter million people year. the pandemic exposed fissures of poverty. we put essential workers on the front line but we treated them like they were expendable. our campaign is saying let's get a real count of what poverty really is in this country and let's stop the lies about scarcity. let's have the wealthy pay their feige fair share. billions made of $2 trillion in the pandemic 8 million more people fell into poverty. most of t the things that make sense they are not radical per universal healthcare, living wages for people who are working. let's do what is right by all of the people and change those precooked confounders the viewers are joined in this conversation. republicans 202-748-8001.

(202)748-8000. independence (202)748-8002. we got the house coming in, and about 20 minutes. of course will take you there apple's a gavel coverage. until then request to end this conversation. i want to focus on that last part of the name of this march and to the polls. what do we know about americans living in poverty in their voting habits in their ability to get to the polls? >> two things.t we did a study i want your listeners to pull it up as cole waking the sleeping giant per there's three things most americans don't know. number one the last election voters who make less than $50000 a year voted higher than normal and they were critical in at least four -- five key states. their votes alone. secondly poor and low wealth voters make up 32% of the electorate now and 45%. number three, and 15 states poor

people vote between one and 25% higher than they did in the last election, they could close the margin of victory for any candidate. they could decide who sits in the senate, who sits in the house, sits in the presidency. we can no longer ignore 32% of the electric. so saturday is not a day it is a declaration. people comment regardless of parlay we've got people from appalachia, to alabama, like folk, black folk from alabama saying here's what our demands f are. aland our voters support these demands them are going and mobilize the summer because poor people can shift the electorate. >> for people campaign.org is refined that report waking the sleeping giant pair poor voters of the 2020 election per note leading up to this march, there had been some efforts on your part the campaign part to have . sit down with president biden.

is that going to happen? : : : guest: i believe it's goino happen and i think it is more the president's handler than the president. he said ending poverty was a good >> because of the level of poverty is so extreme that portable will going to do is put a face on attend one of the things that happened on saturdays america's - the people are coming together with people who are they've not seen whether it's from california are the carolinas or messages orom all y down to mississippi and i believe it is going to have an effect it must happenn because the truth of the matter is that if we do not change, the limited public policy in this country, from republicans versus theic democrats or mansion versus mcconnell recall a versus president and so how does this piece of publicow policy establh justice and how does it list all of the people in the society and part of the way that you do that if you have to put a face on it

so the debate is not just about the numbers but about real people and then lastly, we've got a house a different question now, the question, no will piece price, not how much does it cost to fix the property and about much is the cost not to fix it, you causes a trillion dollars year to let the poverty stay, we must 300 and some odd billion dollars fund into the economy because two democratic senators blockedre raising a living wagep to $15 an hour. many people may not know that in 1963, they fought for $2 an hour minimum wage which today would be 15, so at some point, america has to say, we cannot accept 140 million people living in poverty andnd the wealth and one quarter million of people are dying from poverty.

>> mitch democrat you're on with the reverend. >> good morning, i want to know if you have a phone number that i could reach c out i am from old-school and i need to communicate sometimes my phone and so we want to talk with you and praise god to give you in good health and you be a long life so i need that phone number play. >> will first of all thank you so much a let me just say the folks like you, i know the website - but if you dial the information, they will give you numbers to reachou me and what i would like to say there are thousands upon thousands and all of this country, we've been in upstate new york and we been the rocks we been in california we've been doubting arizona and on saturday your weight is eight black-and-white and young and

old and gay and straight had latino and asians all coming together one fourth saying that we are the 140 million people and we won't be silent anymore with her votes we are calling for a big reconstruction together with have a full agenda that is laid out has been vetted by some of the best economists in the world, and what it says is this willl make america better, and we are sing to america, you cannot sustain this democracy this fundamental foundation when you have 140 million people40 in poverty and want people to hear that number and say what possesses and sadly come i want you to sed children and folks and you're going to see you know what, it is past time for.

[inaudible]. about what we are really going to do. >> what i actually, and assembly come together all of the way back to 14th street hand, on friday nights, we are going to the national mall at 7:00 o'clock, well i say 5:00 o'clock, communal feeding at 5:00 o'clock anybody who is hungry, can come but the reason is to show how much hunger exists, two blocks from the capitol being on in the evening 7:00 o'clock on saturday, were having a service in morning because the million people died covid-19 we have not stopped one week and just cried as a nation, 'these people died two - five times higher the pandemic it didn'tti demonstrate but we did the essential workers were sent out on the front line it, they were not given healthcare they're not given a living wage,

and some was like they were expendable and so we are going to have a service a morning on friday night, for those who have died from violence and those who have died from the pandemic and those of died and 9:30 a.m. on saturday, on the third in pennsylvania, everybody should, and hear this and i say real quickly, about this, all of the upstart union members like dollar general members and the maximus workers and beauty workers in south carolina, the going to have the voices, every union is going to bring forth his speaker this is a different rally, i am not going to do like a big keynote, we are putting the voices of the people, thisut is the people gathering at and you are going to hear from real people and people who normally might not havepe seen together because folks are realizing whether it's kentucky or east of south carolina, weut better come together and address the issues of race and stemming an

ecological devastation it and denial of healthcare in the world economy andhe the false narrative of the religious mass movement. >> this is rebecca i'm going from good morning. >> good morning and i would just say that i would like to make a couple of points and p what is, that i would like to know where the investigation that will include the democrats hand and this writer nancy pelosi is in charge of the capitol police and why was only five guards posted there at the entrance of the capitol and then you at least a few weeks earlier there was going to be problems and yes, they made it happened. >> thank you you on the reverend and you have y a question for h. >> it you know what date, just pray for everybody, we need to get rid of these guns guns guns, this is a smokescreen to cover up the real issues that affect everyday people with food,

inflation, gas and this is the smokescreen and they need to take responsibility for their part in this. >> well you know, thank you rebecca for your call, that is my daughter's name as well and she raises a powerful question you know when the riots were saponin the insurrection, people percent it was a r bunch of - ad we found out from some say that it wasn't, it was more middle-class and up, and for folks have not riots, the poor folks are trying to make it in one of the things were sing to this country, is if you keep allowing 140 million people living in poverty, and is help, is a breeding ground for all kinds of discontent the breeding ground for desperate sand autocratic leaders we don't need that in this country, we need to live out our constitution which says, that we ought to promote theal general walther er viewed person in the general welfare to me would mean,

everybody is universal healthcare everybody has living wages and universal healthcare and five of the wealthiest countries, we are the only ones it does not offer some form of neuniversal healthcare. >> for folks who have lost hope, in the colon, would you say to them. >> will you know, it is interesting with the packages that inflation just a smokescreen, i want to agree with her and say look, the lie of scarcity is a life and that's what were going to show you cannot say any country we have a 20 some trillion dollar gross domestic product, that they can to deal with this problem and the fact of the matter is, we have a scarcity and a lot of what we don't know what to do with the problem is that we always start the wrong end of the debate. how much is it going to cost and how much as a going to raise taxes and we scare people rather than how much is it all rest already costing us for this party and ever enter an

devastation and what would it benefit us if we changed those realities itself opens when you come together, you recognize these people rather than 45 percent of electric and battleground states and hope isp when you come together and say we refused toun accept this bute don't have to use violence, want to be non- violent and i'm going to register our voices and votes and we are going to stay at this as long as it takes and it took ten years to win the battles of the civil rights movements, this movement is commanded and as long as it takes to change the unnecessarily realities of low wealth and poverty in this country. >> democratic, good morning. >> good morning and one of my most favorite is programs in the world, reverend williams, yes sir, you are absolutely correct you love watching you watching you on msnbc in the poor people's campaign is awesome.

and i could sit to our show asking and asking you questions and you are absolutely awesome. i'm going to tell you that i think better policies, were supposed to be trying to form a more perfect union here in this country and were just going backwards unfortunately, the republicans are really telling us that way and the policies, big corporations, they just take way too big of a talk and you know, wonder why we have such a huge deficit besides are spending and why middle-class is being choked on the taxes. the rich people pay very little because of loopholes and everything in the poores peopley definition cannot pay it soo tht leaves pretty much all the taxes are a darn good portion are on the middle class and you know, the policies are just crazy,

they are not meant for poor people here in the meantime i think should be skewed little more support people as opposed to corporations but it is the other way around it always has been and probably always will be partially. >> ron let me stop you there about the reverend. >> people will stand up and were going to fight back and were going to change and i also want to say ron, that foreign low wealth people because sometimes, we want to isolate problems but sometimes the republicans want to say that for people are their own worst enemies and personal morality is sometimes moderate democrats want a safe they don't even want to talk about poverty and reality is that we have to reality has when you look at the policies, so 12, has been policies over years and talk about liberalism and trickle-down economics and he said it had forms of policies that actually take us backward us and we need to do in this country is sent to the

140 million people in the within her public policy had it from the bottom up and declare everybody has a right to live and do policies from that direction and if we did that, everybody benefits. recently some years ago, all of us clamoring that if you raise the living raise isng going to n the prices up and then from economist only one nobel peace prize guess with her studies and that's not true, absolutely not true some part of what we have to do the society is doing the lie, are gathering on saturday mask lower and truth telling and we are going to put out an agenda and say what were going to do with the real faces in front of the american people and we are going to challenge the lives of security for truth and facts and footnotes because until we can have truthful debates and moralun debates, and what we end up having is like we

had this year, to democrats and four republicans say no questions to 32 million people and even though 100 and some cities said since 1994, have raised minimum wages to living wages and 49 republican sent to democrat said no and they said no to 43 percent of the black community alone thatmm would've covered our property with one belt and they said no to millions of white peoplef millions of latinos and this is the kind of the conversation we need to have an think the turn and when you have these debates, bring the people this way want to be c the presidents, bring people, religious leaders and impacted people in economist and put a face on the politics of the record have a real moral debates not just about in washington dc. >> let's not be for house comes in here, when did we let's have merrill debate in washington.

[laughter] would never have the without of course, in the first reconstruction between 1865 - 1898 and we have them in the civil rights and the second reconstruction, enforced by the people making it happen and help with that i have a three reconstruction is only going to happen if the people making avenue movement is saying that we are declaring that we want to be silent anymore and not an seen anymore, so it is the beginning and slowly commitment, but they give us a date it's a declaration we invited everybody to join us. >> reverend william barbara, the poor people campaign culture and is this weekend, saturday beginning at 930 mental folks again were to meet if they want to join. >> you want to join f us, pennsylvania and third from the third in full for this we declare that we won't be silent

anymore and he's realities do not have to exist and we can change them. >> the poor people's campaign can be found among the poor people campaign .org what is on twitter. >> go to the .org, i'm not as good as i should be with the twitter but it's go to org you get the text number had unite the poor, at unite the poor. >> always appreciate the time and thank you. >> she spends washington journal, every day we to your calls live on the air on the news of the day, and discuss the issues that impact you and camille on wednesday morning, democratic congresswoman kathleen rice, the economy and inflation and energy crisis in the january 6th committee hearings look of the vitamin even if it administration economic policies with stephen moore, senior economist for freedom works and former trump senior economic advisor, and

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