enjoyed visiting with you. thank you. >> let's be honest great leadership is a rare and elusive quality composed as it is in so many different attributes coming together at the same time intelligence, courage high standards and personal presence in the ability to communicate among others ama's cr

worked for president clinton, . . director. [applause] john edwardswa questioned. >> presidential campaign, and in some ways think nancy pelosi would say the same thing.

you kind of grow and think about and learn from losses and a tough situation more than other situationss. then the victories which come a little easy. susan and i, i first met her and very' happy they are in session, they are asking me if i would moderate that and i said susan payne talked about nancy pelosi? this is definitely my wheelhouse. i wrote a book called your madam president based on the experiences i learned working for hillary. the second book she proclaims desperation of independence in a man's world. not a declaration of war just don't see a reason we need to follow a man.

and that's what it's about. you hear this about women, there is just something about her i don't like. sometimes there's just something about her that is incredible. forus nancy pelosi there's just something about her that is incredible and incredibly effective. susan and i talked about this and thought for our discussion of madam speaker to start the question of, what makes her so effective? she is incredibly effective. even john weiner, house republican speaker such is probably the most effective speaker ever, right? that we would do that in three categories. the will to q&a with audience. one is role models and a people helped her along the way.

i don't know if you didn't watch the whole thing her entire speech except for the very end was very moving with certain thinking people. thinking people who had helped her from the time she was a child, her family, mentors, jurists, the white house team, naming everyone. it is not something you would normally see a leader, a jurist do. we will do role models, people who helped her along the way. early experience and motherhood, which seemed to be really important as a leader. and how to manage criticism. i worked for hillary and wrote about those, talk about her parents that were so important for. >> i'm so glad to be here. thank you all for coming on this show on a saturday morning. >> it is a beautiful day.

after two years of this pen dallek edge epidemic it's good to see people in person but i'm really glad to be atok the celebration of people we talk about my book today, but the paperback edition of jen's latest book it's going to be available for sale. it's women supporting womenan friends. [laughter] >> nancy pelosi, really what a person comfortable with power. i went to a couple different titles for my book which is now nancy pelosi the lessons of power. the first time i began running the book was nancy pelosi and the ark of power. people thought that was toooo mh like the art of power which is a thomas jefferson. >> "the art of the deal". then we need it nancy pelosi and

the test of power at which was all right. we ended up with nancy pelosi and the lessons of power. the thing about nancy pelosi as she learned lessonse about power from the day she was born. the date she was born, newspaper photographers showed up at her mother's bedside in the hospital to take pictures. which then appeared on the fronm page of multiple papers her dad was a member of congress, a prominent family. the family had had five boys in a row, finally had a grocer that was notable. nancy has been in the news columns, she was the person when her father then went to spieth mayor of baltimore. she heldbl the bible on the stad for his swearing in.

this is someone who grew up with a lot of role models for power. one of his that is her remarkable father. you are all too young to know him. some of you might have known his son was a one term mayor of baltimore. died about six months ago. but the other remarkable role model nancy pelosi was her mother. her mother was known as big nancy. [laughter] which was a very apt nickname. it also meant nancy, the girl he became nancy pelosi was always known as little nancy. and i think she did not shed that nickname until she went away to college but maybe that's why she went away to college to not be known to everyone as little nancy. big nancy was a remarkably smart, intubated entrepreneurial woman well ahead of that's our time. pelosi told me one of the interviews i did with her for the book, that of her mother were born today she would be

president. her mother wanted to go to law school. she tried to go to law school after having nancy. so at that point should six kids at home. that did not work out. she inventedy things. >> is an actual patent. >> she got patents for inventions including a device to used to give you a beautiful complexion. which is a metal device with a hole in the top. an electric coil inside. cord to the ads they ran at the time you pour the secret oil into the metal tube. you plug it in any up your face over it to get it steamed. it will give you a beautiful complexion. i do not know if it would in fact give you a beautiful complexion. i do known as during the book

one of my kids found one on ebay and bought it for $34 about the seller understood the historic meaning of this device, i plugged it in and it still heated up water break did not have the secret oil available. the other thing that's instructive to know about big nancy. is that she was a huge risk taker. she was not hesitant about taking bigger risks. and she loved playing the ponies. she had her own she had a special affection where she spent quite a bit of time. when her husband was mayor, it would go to the restaurant and little italy to pay the bookies in the back of the room, the debts his wife had incurred. so if you want to know something about nancy pelosi's comfortwi

with power, and her comfort with risks, her willingness to attack goals that other people cannot be reached, just look at big nancy. >> do you think she -- little nancy felt the mother's frustration? are the little nancy saw the possibility? >> and little nancy was born, big nancy made a promise to god that she may be for sure's port if only she could have a girl after all of theseun boys, she would make the girl a nun. [laughter] [laughter] nancy did her best to make a little nancy a nun. at one point little nancy said she did not want to be a nun. but she might be interested in being a priest.

[applause] i think that big nancy gave gave nancy pelosi comfort with doing things and ignoring those who said you couldn't do it, you as a whoop and could not do it. you as an italian-american could not do it. i think it just made her fearless. and she also learned, she also learned from childhood how to manage and motivate supporters. the d'alessandro family had something called the favor file for you don't need a dictionary to understand what a favor file is big nancy would sit at a table in the front room of their home and little italy and constituents would line up line

up to the sidewalk to go through and seek favors. they might need some help with housing. or maybe they had an immigration issue. maybe they had a child in the jail and they wanted help from the mayor to get him or her out of jail. and big nancy would listen to the problem, to the favor that was needed. write it down on a card and figure out what they could do to help. and if you got a favor granted that came with a certain expectation that you owe them something. maybe you've go to a rally for him. or, if there is a future person seeking a favor, that you were in a position to help with you were expected to do that. i think that's a pretty good description with the speaker of the house does. >> you think that she is

effective on many levels focused but corralling, the house democrat that thing is not easy to get your hands around. is that how she engenders that loyalty? >> the way she learned to the house democratic caucus is by having five children herself. because she says the skills you need to run thes house of representatives are exactly the same as the skills you need to manage a house with a bunch of kids. you need to be comfortable with chaos. you need to be filled with shifting coalitions. [laughter] you need to be able to persuade people to do what you want them to do and convince them it was

their idea. it's interesting, nancy pelosi sent a lot to rick group women to run forer office. oftenn this is maybe a littlet less true today but in the past has been especially true should be b recruiting women open homemakers as opposed to having a career outside the home. often they would say i could not run for congress. you should find someone else more q qualified. usually meaning some manhood be more qualified. she would tell the story what it was critical for her being an effective politician. she was 46 before she ran the first time for public office. quincy don't think people appreciate that. i was in california and i remember she was j elected. she took off like a rocket which got the house of

representatives. lectures 47 when she was first sworn in. >> no experience but homemaker? she had worked as a political fundraiser. she worked for in the senate office named steny hoyer. [laughter] >> our congressman he is our congressman. the traditional ways that funnel you into public office. she and her husband agreed maybe she would serve for five terms, ten years but that is what her father had done a been a five term congressman. i think within an hour and a half of arriving in washington,d she knew she had arrived where she ought to be. >> and i think about you are

describing to it hillary clinton saw and heard dad she never saw power, power was not around her. her mom gone through she was a banner should help raise her sister should it work in home at a young age, really, really mistreated. that was her path and her motivation. if you compare these are two of the most powerful women in the history of the country. have both had tremendous power.o how is hillary clinton's understanding and use of power different from nancy pelosi's? it was not her trading her background project motivation to get into public service.

she probably never would've gotten into politics had she not been bill clinton who brought her along on a different path. the power it sort of became secondary. i don't think it wasot not something -- not something easy for me too say. pelosi approaches a problem thinking about how she can how she can corral to certain soutcome. hillary is the one that is designed with the outcome.

it was bigger, and bigger jobs. is not hers. >> seven presence in 11 presidential campaigns. telling someone for the program started i have no other skills, thank god we keep holding elections so i've something to dona. but nancy pelosi is more comfortable with accumulating and exercising and maintaining power than any politician i have ever covered. it is natural to her i think it's because she grew up in a world, she grew up in a household the use of political power was like the existence was part of everything the family was about pers part of her mother, her father, and community.

and yet she never thought of herself as a candidate for office until a woman told her she ought to do it. she had been a very effective political fundraiser in california. she hadai in fact chaired the democratic party was seen as doing a good job running the california democraticty party. no one else thought of her as a candidate and neither did she until burton, who was a member of congress that succeeded her legendary husband, bill burton, who was a liberal lion of the house. her husband dies, she gets sick. she called the nancy pelosi who was a fundraiser and said you should run. and policies like no i'm not a candidate. she put it in her mind she should run.t she said it should do and that

never would've run for office. and that is the story of so mant women in politics. ant hill or, she never saw herself as a candidate through her husband's political career it became something. there's another way they are alike, hillary clinton and nancy pelosi is they are hugely demonized. [laughter] >> i've literally written two books about it. >> where these two women demonized? >> honestly there's just something about her. when i joined the clinton campaignee i'd been through a lt already. i'd been to the clinton presidency, the edwards campaign, brock obamama communications director, i can handle this, i can handle hillary clinton. it was if i'd been a bus driver all my life. all this and when iee got in the

bus on a train that went out with. i put on the brakes and the accelerator would go. slick all the instruments are used in new how to use went haywire. we never seen a woman as the actual nominee. we'd never seen a woman in the oval office. i had an epiphany very late in the campaign we have been doing is trying to jam her into a mail role show you she can do the job as it has always been done i thought what a disservice no wonder people think she is an authentic.

i had no idea what to do about it. and it was too late. we don't know what that looks like is not as if everyone who didn't like her, didn't vote for her is sexist. i think we are all certain were not sexist, we are not racist we are pretty blind to the biases that we all a have. and the way we reveal itself is you don't recognize her there's something about i don't like. there is just about her i don't trust. we would ask questions i don't know. she's always so sketchy she's always hiding something. i won't go into the end of being a total nothing. it was suspicion built on suspicion. and i think pelosi the remark was about pelosi, she just shuts

it down. she gives you no sign that it bothers her. boehm she keeps going, it is remarkable. she seems to appreciate, understand it is not about her. she always that when politics? >> i think she doesn't show when she is really mad. hillary was running for president, nancy pelosi is running for head of the democratic caucus. it is a smaller constituency.sh she does not need to be an effective and she's not but she does not need to connect with thousands and millions of people. it is a different kind of role. but if you think about how nancy pelosi keeps her position because if youes cross and you e a member of congress, you will

pay a price. [laughter] and she rules what the favor file. memberst of congress want favors from her print they want a committee assignment, they want legislation to get a hearing past, right? if you behave in a way that she thanks was not appropriate for that created her problems you are not going to get off scott free will tell you that. if i did ten interviews with her for the book, which i've been very appreciative of because speaker of the house as other things to do. quickset is a lot. we give you ten interviews. that gives you at? remarkable insight. i say shouldn't like for the ninth interview i did not want

to start out with the stuff she wasn't going to like. [laughter] and in the ninth interview, i was asking questions about the things w i knew she would like e least. she might see as the most negative, there is particular thing i was asking about that she thought did not deserve to be in the book it was not important, it wasn't relevant. we engaged in this conversation which i became increasingly terrified. [laughter] we are sitting there, she is shorter than i am she's not taller than i am for it she did not raise herer voice. she did not yell at me, she did not curse. she somehow got bigger. [laughter] sitting in this chair and pelosi is getting a bigger, and bigger, and alarming to me. [laughter] and she kept insisting, she asked increasingly probing

questions. she forced me too defend myself, defendant my point of view. to articulate and a very full way, why i thought this was annd episode that deserve to be in her biography. and at the end of this interview, which was not my favorite interview, she continued to think it should not be in. and i continue to say it should be in. and that is how the interview ended o. it was about 3:00 p.m. in the afternoon prayer left the speaker's office which is a fantastic office with with a magnificent view of the national mall. i went toi my car, i drove home, i poured a glass of wine. [laughter] i crawled into bed and i watched about three hours of reruns. now, remember pelosi couldn't

really -- make my career is not dependent on pelosi. can you imagine what a a memberr congress must feel like when pelosi is trying to get you to vote for the affordable care act and you don't want too. that gave me a little sense of that. >> i had during obama, the leadership would come in a lot. after it was probably 13 paul ryan was speaker, obama had mcconnell lead, ryan, pelosi, they are at an impasse. the republicans the last few times, getting their caucus to agree on anything has proven to be very ineffective. i talked to her, i said do you just look at those guys and be like these guys are a bunch of jokers. [laughter] trucks what did she say?

>> she g is so guarded. as the one time i got a good giggle out of nancy pelosi. the scene they're at me like rights, schumer. >> like wyatt? >> republican leaders also senators of either party she has a lot of contempt for. the senate has its own rules you cannot roll them quite as easily as the house. the senate has been the place where the house and pass legislation goes to die. >> it's interesting some of the people youes interviewed what weiner said, hillary said, what some of the other leaders work with her had to say. >> and weiner did say when i interviewed him for the book he thought she was the most effective speaker in american history. and actually newt gingrich who is no friend of nancy pelosi and vice versa also said when he

looks at pelosi he sees a fellow pirates. i think gingrich sees as high praise. [laughter] but weiner also said that, this is a point of criticism for some of pelosi. he says there are times he would try to moderate the rhetoric. he would try to leave a door open for moree cooperation. she was always full steam ahead. in his view taking very partisan views on things. that is also something top aides to president george w. bush told me. remember when pelosi was first eoelected the first woman in history of our country, george w. bush went up to deliver a state of the union address. he made very gracious comments at the beginning acknowledging

the history of theme moment. mentioning her father, and according to his top aide, bush felt pelosi never reciprocated. he made an offer, let's try to act in at cooler manner than the politics are heading today. and that was not something she was willing to do. >> some it's interesting i read that passage i went does she think where did that come from? if i relinquish any notion i relinquish the power i have within my carcass very it should save weiner didn't deliver. weiner did not deliver his caucus what's the point of bipartisanship if you cannot deliver your people? she thanks the most damaging she pushed through was not the affordable care act it was the bank bailout in 2008 we have the

financial meltdown. nobody liked bailing out banks. in american politics, bailing out banks at the most popular thing to do. the economist percent if you oidon't do this for going to hed into a depression print so they made a deal that they would each deliver 50% of their caucus for this legislation. and she delivered 50% of her caucus and a bit more and he did not. and it went down i don't know if you remember that after the house vote, the stock market plunged in a way that was really serious. and at that point they brought the legislation back up. pelosi delivered all the votes they need. weiner once again did not deliver 50% of his caucus because he couldn't. the carcass was not under control. i think her view would be you want to play with me, you've got to deliver.

i think about her as during the trump years, and then in the biden administration. noi had forgotten where it nancy has the votes, this isa like a mantra nancy always has the votes. nancy never goes to the she doesn't have the votes. it kind of started she rescued the rescue package regret she rescued george w. bush whom she told me the president made the worst mistake in american history which is saying a lot which is the iraqf war. she did not have a high bush of george w. bush and his presidency. even though itug cost her membes to push the legislation she did it because the alternative look too u grim. >> tell us about she took on a particularly iconic status during the trump years in the

orange coat with the big collar straightened down to the white house to the cameras there. do you think she had trump's number because she had encountered him and she had seen him inn baltimore? she had seen him in san francisco politics, she had encountered people i can before? >> donald trump is a very distinctive figure. i'mse not sure i know a lot of people are like donald trump. >> he everybody knows, he grew jersey and york you note trump, you know people like you know bullies like it got punch him in the face. >> i grew up in kansas. [laughter] but she had hisal number. but she knew how to deal, she knew how to deal with aggressive men and bullies. she had grown up with five older

brothers, how do you think she managed to handle herself there? there is probably also good training. she has a view of trump that was extremely negative from the get go. in fact, she told me that her plan had been to resign after the 2016 election. she was ready to leaveve congre. so she hadnd been reelected but somebody else was going to be elected democratic leader, it should resign have a special election in san francisco. she felt comfortable doing this because she knew thingspr woulde in good hands with hillary clinton as president. that election night 2016, she starts the night believing, as many of us did, that hillary clinton was going to win the election. and she looked at early returns from pennsylvania, and talk to bob brady he was like an

old-time pulp from pennsylvania as a member of the house, much like her dad who gave her some numbers from outside the philadelphia area that indicated there is a problem. at that pointhe she knew hillary was going to lose. she was at an event for big donors but she stopped reassuring people that things were going to be okay but she didn't tell them what she thought was going to happen paid by the end of the night she decided not to retire. because she thought trump was a threat to the t nation, not a threat to the democratic party but a threat to the nation but she felt an obligation to stick around. and she became the face of the democratic opposition to presidentno trump. i'm not sure, i think it took him a long time to understand that. i have interviewed him on air force to meet on air force one, for usa today, couple weeks before the midterms in 2016. i meet in 2018.

and i said are you concerned democrats may win control of the house? and his aide, steven bannon in particular were very concerned diabout that. they that that would lead to unending investigation of the trumpio administration. president trump said that he was not concerned for tickly concerned about that because he knew pelosi but he got along with pelosi. pelosi wanted to do business, that is true. they hadn't been able to pass an infrastructure package. and he thought there'd have a better chance of passing infrastructure bill with pelosis as speaker then republicans in control. >> that turned out to be true. [laughter] much later, different tse presi. >> i think because she was not on the impeachment train that she was going to protect them. she was very reluctant to do impeachment but she was no friend of donald trump.

and for two years in the minority, incredibly effective at playing a very weak hand against trump. and then when she got the majority she was very effective in playing a much stronger hand against donald trump ricketts will takehe questions from the audience now. we have a microphone in the middle. if folks want to come up and start doing that. she's got a question for. >> my niece brought her here. i just want to be totally transparent. >> you hear me okay? i just wondered what your next project is going to be? >> thank you for asking. work out of book for simon & schuster. it is another biography of a power in interesting woman. as af biography of barbara walters. you would buy book, right? [laughter] >> we have the same book agents. >> infects a text in this morning it's ever going to be here together.

>> we love our agent. >> yes it is weird, people don't often do that. >> but we do. >> barbara walters that is excellent. >> three characteristics of the three women i have done biographies to i've done one i'm working on, complicated. >> barbara bush. >> yes, i did a biography of barbara bush. called the matriarch. barbara bush, nancy pelosi and now barbara walters. one, they are complicated. two, they are consequential, they had an impact.so and three, no good biography of them. >> hi. >> my question, that item you are talking to speaker pelosi about in the '90s, was that item included in your book? >> it was. [applause]

and what was that? >> not going to poke the beer by telling what it was. but you know, i will tell her this makes me look smart when potentially it could make me look stupid so tell the story. [laughter] went i was starting on both books, i did not contact the subject of the books before hand to see if they would cooperate. which i think potentially could be very stupid. both of them cooperated, i did interviews with barbara bush to the last six months of her life. and then ten interviews with pelosi for this book. an 11th interviewed for the hardback, for the paperback which just came out a couple aweeks ago. but the reason i did not ask them if they would cooperate was because i thought if they said no, i might chicken out. and i thought if they said yes,

they might thinko they had some control over what i wrote. but if i came to them and said i have signed a contract to do a biography off you, i would realy appreciate you talking to me, it is clear that i'm writing a work of journalism and not an authorized biography. because in an authorized biography she would have been able to make a call about what i could include and not included. that wasas actually true at the barbara bush book as well pray there is something in the barbara bush biography the family it was very opposed. she had died by thehe tub the bk cameme out. the family was veryy opposed to. but it is in there because it seemed important to me. >> can you talk a little bit about how pelosi dealt with the challenge from the swamp and what happened? you have any kind of power? >> they do have power it yes. theyhe may have more. if democrats lose control of the

house in november, which is now, i think it's very likely but nothing is guaranteed but veryy likely. the ones who are left ours going to the most progressive members of the democratic caucus in the squad will have a better power the hubbub better percentage of the carcass.ia pelosi told me she saw some of herself in aoc. especially when she was younger, when she was standing up for liberal positions and could not understand why politicians would settle for half a loaf when they ought to get a full loaf. but the position she was in now, her view had always been pretty pragmatic at the most liberal thing you can get. don't give away the most liberal thing you can get in pursuit of the most liberal thing you cannot get would be a he attitude. really, the best interviewed these interviews to be set up wellin advance. speaker of the house has a busy schedule. so one of the interviews i had

with her was right after a meeting of the democratic caucus that turned into a brawl between her and the squad. they had defected on immigration vote she had really wanted them to vote with the democrats o on. and so she was all warmed up by the time she got to the interview with me. and i was asking her about it.nt she got annoyed and so the thought this is an interview about the book breaks it but just ask you one final thing about this then, do you think the squad understands the process of passing legislation? [laughter] which was a very good question as it turned out. and she said no. and she's quoting a famous line for a member of congress used to use. she said some people come to

washington to pose for holy pictures and say look how pure i am. and some of us come to washington to get things done. and i can tail, having nancy pelosi saying you are posing for holy pictures is not a compliment. [laughter] >> good morning, thank you for being here. this really builds on the last question. i am a wedding with the speaker thanks about her legacy in terms of the shifting ideals of the american public in terms of antiracism, able -ism, the things that were very concerned with in terms of social justice. how does she see her legacy in that piece? >> it is a great question. i am not sure i have a good answer for it.

in some ways some of the big cultural trends in our country are things she has fought for, for 50 years,, right? when she was first elected, the biggest issue she initially had to deal with was hiv-aids. most politicians would not even say the word aids. and she was coming from representing a district that was an epicenter of the epidemic of aids. and yet, look at our attitudes now are not just on aids but same marriage, and on racial justice. some of these trends just from the last couple of years. i am sure she sees those with the gratitude and pride. it's not something i've talked to her about so maybe i should not presume. if you ask her, what is your biggest legacy, i think she

would probably say the affordable care act. >> is a quick follow-up, what do you think her position is in terms of expanding the courts? the supreme court? >> she has been asked that question which she dismisses and refuses to answer because i think she sees it as not something that's going to happen so why waste time on it. >> thank you. >> good morning, thank you for coming. how would you explainxp or frame nancy pelosi's relationship with her faith? i mean clearly her family were very active roman catholics. she has said publicly, when asked if she hated trump that she said she hated nobody she was a catholic and she. for him. how does that influence what her priorities are and how she faces

every day in the choices she makes? >> she is a person of faith. she regularly attends mass. her faith is very important to her. she prays every day she says. and i believe her. and i think, one of the things she tells aspiring politicians as you need to know why you're running for office. she said for herself it is for children, for children need to take care and protect children. there's a big social justice thread through pelosi's life and through political priorities that were shaped first by the all girls catholic school she went to in baltimore. and then by trinity college. her entire schooling was that catholic institutions, taught by nuns with only girls in her

class. except as another similarity between hillary and pelosi,i, right? they went to all girls schools in college? so to all girls college. i just read valerie's owens book the president sister, it's very good. it's interesting, val a really strong woman she only had a brother she has four brothers i think, three or four of them. >> three, franky, joey, and jimmy. >> and val. and then hillary was the only girl as well. i think that when you are the only girl you are a little tougher may be. you absorb different lessons. and then show it for all women's college. my gutter winter and all women's college to and found it interestingly, i was concerned it would not give them

confidence when you're in the world with the men and women both. does seem to instill a sort of foundation of confidence. >> how many leaders went to all women's colleges of which there are not that many left. >> it does seem to instill some sort of foundation of confidence. >> for three minutes left. >> i am wondering about the men who helped her along the way. i work for leon pannetta who was my congressman at the time, grip and a navy family. we were iney monterey. i saw men in the california delegation, george miller, chuck schumer, not the california chuck schumer, there was john

men come this sounds weird, you know what i mean, i was like wow, this nancy pelosi's on the corporation boom she's sure the calvary delegation, boom she's rising and leadership are people that helped her. but i'm never clear did she have an ambition to be speaker when she got there? or was it just like i can imagine nobody else can do this job so i am doing it. >> i think she looked the democratic leadership was doing and she thought they weren't doing it very well. >> i think that to be. >> i don't think she thought showing to climb thist letter. i think she looked at it and said boy are these people inept. i don't think it was gender driven. representing womanhood i think it was like i am a democrat, we can do better than this. it was actually pretty early on there were rumors she might

challenge the speaker who lost his race, fully. when she was not considering, would've been folly to challenge him at a that point. and they came to her and she tdismissed they said we know yu women members of congress have some. no reason to run for the t a leadership of the rv take care of them. imagine how will receive that message was. talk of the lessons of nancy pelosi's number one lesson of power she learned from his father, no one will give you power, you have tot take it. and that is what i she did and t

running for the leadership, maryland congressman was in line to be the next. she ran a three-year campaign to defeat him to get on the steppingstone that led to the speakership. when people come to her, aspiring p politicians with touh races they want this, they want that, she says nobody's going to hand your power, you have to seize it. that's been the mantra of her life it served as leader pretty well. a closing comment abouttaoo pel, when i started the book the pitch i made to t my publisher s herere is the most powerful womn in american history, the first female speaker of the house. and when i finish the book i thought she is in the history books as the first femaleor speaker of the house. but she is also in the history

books as one of the most effective speakers in the history of the united states of america. and that is pretty remarkable. it hasas been my privilege to spend some time studying her. >> are right thank you. [applause] thanks everyone, great crowd. >> c-span has unfiltered coverage of the u.s. response to russia's invasion of ukraine. bring you the latest and the president and other white house officials, the pentagon and the state department as well as congress progressive international perspective from the united nations and statements from foreign leaders. all on the c-span network. c-span now free mobile app and c-span.org/ukraine. our web resource page you can watch the latest videos on demand and follow tweets from journalists on the ground. go to c-span.org/ukraine.

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