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help women raise money and run successful competitive campaigns. in our history with elected 159 women to nine women to the u.s. house and 20 6a state senators, 16 governors and more than 1400 state and local officials and we're not slowing down anytime soon especially this november. >> host: are you lookingng at,ou for members mainly in the democratic races or have you run republicans as well? >> guest: emily's list has always only elected and supported democratic pro-choice women. so we are very competitive in primaries and had been from them beginning since we first help elect barbara mikulski is the first democratic woman elected in her own right to the united states senator gardner history with only ever exclusively elected and supported democratic pro-choice women. >> host: we we're having youn to talk about some of the candidates and issues raised but in particular also talk about the kansas constitutional amendment, the measure which

failed in the kansas vote on tuesday by nearly 20 votes, a measure that would allow a change in the kansas constitution. what was your reaction to that vote? and a little bit of joy int has been a tough year for women's were productive rights. the reproductive rights in our country. we are in a position right now where republicans are talking about a national abortion ban, and if -- and the supreme court has overturned roe v. wade. the vote this week in kansas was an indicator and what we believe we have been seeing across the country. which is, a majority of americans are on the side of people being able to make their own health care decisions. that coalition of people in kansas, democrats, independents and even some republicans that came together for that resounding vote this week since the signal that, not only are americans on our side when it

comes to access to abortion, but the driver of turnout is going to be key in the november elections. host: what do you think that vote in particular will mean for turnout in key races across the country? guest: it was a record turnout for a midterm, for primary off day election. we think when we head to the general election, emily's list and our partners are working to center choice in the election, combined with our candidates who unapologetically makes the case for people being able to make their own health care decisions. when you compare that to a republican party where mitch mcconnell has said clearly if the republicans take the house and senate, they will push and pass national abortion bands in the face of republican governors and state legislators across the country, rolling back access to health care across our nation. this is a clear choice. it will be a driver of turnout, not just for democrats but

independents and republicans. we believe this will be a winning issue this fall. host: emily cain is our guest, she heads emily's list. we welcome your calls, (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. for independents and others, (202) 748-8002. the role abortion rights may play in your vote this year. emily, i want to play the comments after that kansas vote by the vice president, kamala harris. [video clip] >> the people of kansas spoke yesterday, loud and clear. they said this is not a partisan issue. the women of america should not be the subject of partisan debate, or perspective. the people of kansas spoke and said this is a matter of defense of basic principles of liberty

and freedom in america. they spoke loudly in saying that they trust women into make decisions about their own lives and their bodies. and they said government should not be mandating those decisions for the women of america. host: emily cain, your thoughts on what you heard from the vice president. guest: honestly, it is another example on how the vice president has been so clear on her support, and the biden irs -- harris administration has been clear on that support to attack the right to choose across the country. this is a demonstration that has pushed a budget without restrictions to protect reproductive health care. they have been clear that they trust americans to make their own health care decisions. i am not surprised by her genuine and clear, strong

comments. i appreciate the leadership that the biden harris administration has shown, and the partnership they have shown with elected officials across the country that trust americans to make their own health care decisions. host: for you surprised by the decision of the kansas vote on the referendum? guest: i was not surprised by the outcome. where i was surprised was by the margin, the fact that it looks like it could be nearly 20 points. this was not a close call, this was not a close race. this is what happens when people organize, when they come together, when they speak truth from their heart about why it is important to protect our freedoms. it shows, as you heard the vice president say, that this is not a partisan issue. the fact we have a situation where republicans across the country are staking their claim over people's bodies and their

ability to make their own decisions about them is quite disturbing. i think it is a motivator for turnout. that is the biggest take away from tuesday, this will drive people to the polls and they are on our side. host: i want to review the commons from alexander dissent, his writing in the national review of writing how this may not be a bellwether on abortion. in her article, she writes that while i am certain democrats may be over reading the results, i would offer pro-lifers two general words of caution in reacting to this news. first, do not allow republican politicians to consider the outcome in kansas evidence that being pro-life is the electorally toxic. one bad result on a confusing eminent in a state that is relatively moderate on abortion is indicative about how americans feel about abortion policy. second, remember the democratic party is deeply out of step with americans and its own voters on abortion. it is true that most americans oppose enacting total

protections for unborn children, but most americans also oppose abortions until birth. this debate is a messaging battle and we will be more successful in the long run if we continue to highlight the test extremism of the other side, if we allow them to put us on the defense. your thoughts. guest: let's start with kansas. kansas is a state that overwhelmingly went for donald trump, not once, but twice. and yet, overwhelmingly confirmed the ability to make their own health care decisions this week. confirmed that kansas is a pro-choice state. when you think about the ball, people love to talk about messaging. in this case, it is about telling the truth. which is, the democrats support the ability for americans to make their own health care decisions. we believe that those decisions, no matter what they are, should be between a person and their doctor. we trust women to make those decisions. this is about fundamental

freedom, power and control. that is telling the truth. as our candidates across the country, whether they are running for state house, governor, the united states senate or house, they are going to be telling the truth to voters and the voters will be saying, i agree with you. democrats can use that to their advantage this fall. host: we are three months away from the fall elections. how many candidates is emily's list endorsing this year? guest: hundreds of hundreds. we have endorsed many incumbents for reelection, like abigail spanberger running for house in virginia. we have endorsed new candidates for the house, dr. kerr barrow running in colorado. janet mills in maine, michelle long gresham in new mexico. upcoming teacher governors, nelly gore bay at in rhode island. we are blessed to have candidates from all backgrounds,

diverse candidates running up and down the ballot. we are excited to throw our full support them -- full support behind him this fall. host: part of that is money for these candidates. guest: absolutely. our name is early money is like yeast. we get involved with candidates early. we typically work them for three to six months before we make a decision on endorsement. when we put our stamp of approval on a campaign, it sends a message to funders, voters, this candidate is running a competitive campaign. we find that path to victory. we find their path to victory. we are proud of our impact over changing the face of power in this country over the last early eight years. we are not planning to start anytime soon. host: how far down ballot do you

think it is important that the organization get involved and support candidates? guest: i have a personal take. i was a state legislator for 10 years. if you think about access to abortion right now, that power absent action in washington lies in state legislatures and governors office across the country we have indoors hundreds, more than 600 candidates for state house offices across the country last year. on top of that, we go down to city councils, mayors, sometimes county offices because it is important to have that perspective of democratic, pro-choice women who trust people to make their own decisions, to empower them every step of the way and have diverse voices at the table. that is how we are changing the face of power in this country. host: let's go to calls.

we hear from evelyn in west virginia, democrats line. though ahead. caller: i would like to know, there is 12 or more ways of keeping you pregnant. why do people need abortion? unless it is for incest or rape. do not understand why there is a need for it. host: ok. care to weigh in? guest: i think what the caller's perspective is reinforcing is, how personal the decision to have an abortion is and how that is a decision she would be less -- it should be between a doctor and family to make the decisions best for them. i do not pretend to know or understand every single situation a person gets themselves in. i would never pretend i could put myself in another person's shoes. i know when it comes to access to health care, access to abortion care, people should be able to have that option for

themselves every step along the way. host: let's go to rick, gainesville, georgia on the democrats line. go ahead. caller: good morning. let's take politics out of this. my personal experience, back when i was younger, my first wife and i found ourselves pregnant and we had a business which was not conducive to raising a child. we interviewed we interviewed was catholic services and put the young lady up for adoption. 24 years later, this year, she found me. i am ecstatic. i was able to hug her for the first time. she thanked me right off the bat for not having an abortion and going the adoption route. i have not heard very much about the adoption route. i believe a woman should be able to have an abortion up to let's say four to six weeks. but after that, my gosh almighty.

let's go ahead and promote adoption. thank you. host: ok. emily, do you have any comments? guest: it is a powerful story. the whole point is that everybody has a story. everybody has the story about the situation they are facing and the decision they need to make for themselves and their families in their lives. i think the caller's example is one of people being able to make their own decision on privacy. i think that is what this debate is about and why the right to choose abortion needs to be something we talk about and is so important in the elections this fall. host: emily's list is part of a coalition of groups. this says 50 groups including yours engage black voting groups. what are you doing with that? guest: emily's list is

partnering with his aces because we believe turnout is key this fall. we want committees of color to know that we value their perspectives and they have real power when it comes to the vote this fall. we are proud to be part of the coalition and other coalitions as we seek to increase turnout for our candidates across the country and up and down the ballot. host: delano is calling in from missouri on the democrats' line. caller: i am almost 90 years old my. only hope -- my only hope is nothing less than elizabeth warren for president. host: why is that? caller: she is the smartest woman out there. she has got some bills that protect everybody. not just one group of people. the guest, i will let the guest tell about the bills she has wrote.

my best friend said but she said she was part indian. winston churchill's mother was half indian. if it had not been for winston churchill, we would be speaking german by now. host: emily cain, your thoughts on senator elizabeth warren? guest: i want to say first thank you for your service to the caller. thank you for reaching up to talk about your support for elizabeth wherein -- elizabeth warren. she is a clariion voice. i have seen her in person. emily's list supports her later in the primary in 2020. senator warren is an inspiration to many. she has been a game changing voice in the senate is great to hear that she has a big fan in missouri.

host: were you an early supporter of her candidacy? guest: when she ran for the u.s. senate, yes. there is a great story about the former president of alumina lease -- implementing slip -- emily's list sitting down with elizabeth warren. it was a tough battle. now she is being a game changer for so many and so many important issues in the senate. she is one of many important women we have serving their. the number of emily's list endorsed and previously supported women in the senate is strong but needs to grow even more. that is why we are so focused on working to elect women like in

north carolina and florida because we know that we need more voices at the table like elizabeth warren, amy klobuchar, and tammy duckworth, so we can have the biggest impact for good in our country. host: what is the biggest donation and what is the typical donation you make to a candidate's campaign? guest: emily's list has millions of members across the country. the last time we took accounting, we call that 5 million members across the country. we have a robust online contribution program. i think $37 was our average donation last month. when you think about the strengths of our candidates and campaigns, it takes the whole emily's list backing them.

a lot of times, those are checks that come in the mail with a note that says thank you for what you do. when it comes to how we support campaigns, under federal law, we are only allowed to support within federal pac limits. there are similar state rules across the country. emily's list also has powerful super pac called women vote where we have invested millions to make a difference for candidates. you will see the strong and clear residence in the elections this fall. host: minnesota, sharon on the democrats' line, go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. emily, thank you for all you do for women in this country. abortion is a top issue for many of us going through in this

election. i disagree with republicans who think this is not going to cause some issues for them because it has proved to be in kansas. you say only democrats that you endorse. i am wondering because i am pushing for unity ticket. i am wondering if at all possible, you just mentioned amy klobuchar, love her, is it possible we can have amy klobuchar and liz cheney on the ticket together? we work with liz cheney on the abortion issue. she is more moderate. is there anyway that we could bring her to the middle and go forward together? thank you. host: ok, sharon. guest: thank you for the support. there is so much going on in michigan with governor whitmer and her reelection campaign.

emily's list elects democratic women. they run the spectrum for democrats for sure. when we think about where we are in our country, there is no question liz cheney's leadership , clearly democrats are working with her on the january 6 commission, a very powerful presentation of facts that reinforces all of the disturbing, corrupt elements of the trump administration. when we think about where we are headed as a country, i think we need more women at the table to start. i wish there was an equivalent organization on the republican side that help support pro-choice republican women to run for office because the republican party right now, even if there was a way liz cheney wanted to work with us on abortion, republican party is not there. the republican party has its position. it is banning abortion with no exception in states across the country. democrats are very focused on

making sure we empower people to make their own health care decisions every single day of the week. republicans are hell-bent every day of the week on taking those rights away. until we have a better sense of common ground or understanding how we trust people to make their own decisions, i don't see that kind of ticket coming together anytime soon. i never say never in politics. politics can certainly bring together interesting alliances. i know if i have more emily's list supported from democratic women in office, we will have better outcomes no matter who is in charge. host: following the supreme court decision, there has been a strong effort on capitol hill to codify other issues including gay marriage. i want to read from a "new york times" article this morning. baldwin leaves nothing to chance. senator tammy baldwin was on a plane home from washington last month when she got word senator

ron johnson, her home state colleague and strident republican, said publicly he would not oppose a bill protecting same-sex marriage rights. a rare moment in which she and mr. johnson might agree on something. she tapped out a text to him saying she was thrilled. tammy baldwin said i would do nothing to jeopardize its chances of passing, but we may differ on what she constitutes obnoxious. mr. johnson replied with a thumbs up emojis and wished her a pleasant weekend. ms. baldwin in 1999 became the first openly gay woman elected to congress. the respect for marriage act would provide federal protections for same-sex marriage rights at a time of rising fears they are at risk. emily cain.

guest: this is a great example. we don't have a pro-choice, functioning pro-choice majority, in the senate. tammy baldwin is amazing. let's be clear about that. tammy baldwin is making it happen hopefully for marriage equality in the united states senate. i want that to happen so badly. she is exactly the kind of leader that can move that through. but we do not have the same potential right now. as we see bills that come forward, even ones that have bipartisan sponsorship and support, there is right now no way that clears a filibuster. right now, that is not a pragmatic way to get this done. the most important thing we can do right now is change to his empower and put the functioning pro-choice majority in the senate. that is why we are focused on winning in the elections in november. there's a sharp contrast between mitch mcconnell and house

republicans saying they want a national abortion ban. you have democrats fighting tooth and nail every single day to protect people's freedoms and ability to make their own health care decisions. the contrast is so stark. it is not the same conversation happening on marriage. i hope so much tammy is able to deliver. i believe if anybody can, she can. right now, we have to focus on building a pro-choice majority in the senate so there are more strong voices to protect rights of americans. host: let's go to doug calling from las vegas. go ahead. caller: hello. my problem with the abortion debate is the way it is argued. it is all argued in terms of it is a woman's choice. we are forgetting 50% of the people involved here, no woman can get pregnant without meals firm -- male sperm.

how does the mail get cut out of the conversation? i have no choice. i have experienced this with my ex-wife. she got pregnant and came home and told me she had an abortion and that is the way it is. you're out on the street, goodbye. you took my kid away would not her kid, my kid. and our kids. it is not just a woman's choice. host: ok, doug. emily cain? guest: it really reinforces how personal this is. i don't know the specifics of the caller's life, but ultimately what we are talking about is whether the government can make health care decisions for us. i want government to trust me to make my own decisions in the context of my life and my family. the caller was calling from

nevada. there's a big election in about a right now when that is a key issue on the ballot. a pro-choice democrat supported by emily's list trusts people to make their own health care decisions. you have extreme anti-choice adam lacks all, no exception when it comes to banning abortion. the contrast is stark. it is a huge divide. democrats have a chance to send her back to fight for them this fall. emily's list will be there to make sure she wins. host: democrats have not yet selected their candidate. charlie crist maintains dominating lead over nikki freed in florida in the democratic primary. does emily's list have a candidate you are supporting? guest: emily's list has not made an endorsement in that race.

we take every endorsement on a case-by-case basis. we are watching that primary. nikki freed is a long -- has a long history of leadership in florida. our focus is on someone running a strong campaign against senator marco rubio. not just issues of choice are on the ballot at about who is fighting for floridians. host: let's hear from mike in gettysburg, pennsylvania, republican line. caller: i was a former democrat turned republican. let me say the young lady you have on television today is well spoken and she speaks well. i wish i had her ability to talk the way she does. let's make something clear.

rubio years ago stood on the capitol steps and said we have the power. we don't care what the people of the united states want. we have the power to ban the abortion bill. that is what she have been saying from the get go. she wants her group to have the power to make decisions. the american people overall have stated for years that they want the ability to be able to say whether they should have the power to have an abortion or not. if you put it to the people of the united states, it will overwhelmingly be defeated that abortion be allowed. what it comes down to is that if you give the power to a few

people, they can vote the way they want. that is basically all i want to express. thank you. host: emily cain, any thoughts on mike's comments? guest: thanks for the kind words. we are talking about been able to make our own decisions. that is what i want. i do not want government making those decisions for me or anyone else when it comes to whether or not to have an abortion. i trust people to make those decisions on their own and i want to make sure they do not have to drive 20 hours to find access to health care, to basic health care. that not the america i see for us. that is not the america our candidates c. i think when it comes to the elections in november, we have a stark choice. there is the saying that all politics are local. that is why at emily's list our candidates are focused on issues on the ground and what they are hearing from their voters.

is that access to abortion matters this fall. they want people that will fight for them and stand up for their rights. that is why candidates endorsed by emily's list are such a force to be reckoned with. host: do you think the kansas results, defeating the referendum, were more in line with what polls have shown in support of women's rights to have an abortion? guest: absolutely. kansas went for donald trump twice. they have an incredible government, democrat laura kelly, who is focused every day on growing economic opportunity. you see kansas saying leave us alone, let us make our own decisions. that is what we want. i think that is a message that resonates in many states and i think it will resonate in november. host: i want to play a quick ad from kansas for constitutional

freedom, an abortion-rights group, and the messaging they use in the ad ahead of the vote. [video clip] >> this confusing constitutional amendment is a slippery slope for kansas. it gives government more power over your privacy and personal medical decisions. don't let politicians take away your freedom. send a message. vote no. host: a lot of messaging on privacy, on taking away your freedom. do you think this sort of approach may work in other states where abortion referendums may be on the ballot, like in kentucky and montana? guest: i am no messaging expert. but for me, it comes down to the truth and the facts. what that ad outlines clearly is the fact that referendum was about privacy. it was about the ability to make your own decisions. i think that kind of plain talk is exactly what we need. what you are hearing from

republicans is a lot of hyperbole. what you are hearing from democrats is the facts. we are telling you the truth. we believe you should be able to make your own health care decisions. we don't think the government should be able to make those. we certainly do not think mitch mcconnell and the republican majority should make them. we are focused on protecting those rights. that is what played out in kansas. whether you're talking about montana or kentucky or big senate races in places like north carolina or pennsylvania, i think those same messages of who is with you and who is against you will be bringing true and clear for voters as they turn out this fall. host: let's hear from joseph in virginia, republican line. caller: good morning. i have a couple of points. first off, it is big money. that is why planned parenthood, etc., want to keep abortion going. number two, it is totally

unnecessary over 62 million innocent lives have been taken when birth-control is writing billy -- readily available. there are many different types now. you look it over 63 million murdered. that is worse than hitler or anybody else. american socialists have more blood on their hands than any bad guy in history. host: on the availability of contraception, are you concerned the supreme court could address that issue in upcoming cases? guest: i am concerned. i think we are looking at an environment where you are seeing republicans walk away from birth-control. we saw a vote a few weeks ago on the floor of the house around protection and access to birth control, contraception. i believe the income -- into count was only five republicans

in the house voted for it. that is embarrassing and scary. it is further truth america -- republicans are so out of step with americans when it comes to reproductive health care. they are so extreme. they want to control bodies across the country. not only by banning access to abortion but now rolling back and taking away access to birth control. that is scary. that is not who we are as americans. we have an obligation to talk about it cleanly and talk about the real-life implications of it. that is what you will have an opportunity to see our candidates do this fall. host: what has been your success rate against pro-choice -- with pro-choice candidates across the country? guest: laura kelly is a great example in kansas. she is a teacher who ran for governor and won four years ago on a message of bringing kansans together and creating economic

opportunity together with support for education. she is continuing to do that as she runs for reelection. emily's list takes on the tough fights. we don't always win them. we take on republicans running for the house. we sometimes win. we sometimes don't. it comes back to changing the faces in government. you cannot get elected in november if you are not on the ballot. we work hard. since 2016, we have more than 65,000 women sign up with us who want to make a plan to run for office. a lot of those women are from rural, underserved communities. we are working with them through our online training center, our online communities, to provide the tools they need to think about running for office, whether that is schoolboard, county council, or the u.s. senate. we are not afraid of the big fights in red states or blue states. that is why you see such an increase in women taking on those races and often winning. host: you mentioned you served

in the main senate from 2004 -- 2012-2014. you served in the house of representatives in maine before that and ran for congress against first polk but you lost in 2016, correct? guest: i did. i lost in 2014. i ran again in 20 and donald trump won my district overwhelmingly and i did not. two years later, congressman jared golden defeated him as he will again. main politics is something i am very close to having been in the majority and minority in the legislature having fought for access to abortion. abortion is on the ballot here. not just the second congressional district but especially in the governor's race. the governor has been such a strong voice for protecting

access to abortion. the former governor has done the opposite. abortion is on the ballot in my home state of maine as it is across the country. we are seeing it play out in big races in big ways. host: howard guest is a graduate of the university of maine and harvard university. let's go to linda on the independent line in missouri. go ahead. caller: i want everyone to remember unborn babies has a heart and soul which makes abortion killing. thank you. host: we will go to tina in leesburg, virginia. good morning. go ahead. caller: yes. i just wanted to say in addition to what a man said earlier about you need a man and woman to make a baby.

without the grace of god, there's not going to be a baby. the baby did not have any choice when it is put to death by abortion. i have heard thereover one million couples waiting for babies. the woman made a choice when she chose to have reckless sex. wait nine to 10 months and give a life to someone who cannot have one. host: let's go to the republican line. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. if a man chooses a woman on the way to abortion because he does not want her to have it, he is charged with double homicide. the life of the child also. how is pro-choice not advocating murder? host: emily cain, as you

mentioned, a lot of emotional response to this issue. how do you approach this politically when recruiting candidates to be pro-choice and hear stories like that? guest: it is interesting. we don't have to commence our candidates to be pro-choice. they are pro-choice. they come from different backgrounds, different religious, different types of community straight that value of trusting people to make their own health care decisions is what shines through and brings them to us. we can help people know how to talk about it, be an empathetic listener, be a clear voice for those values, and focus on what is at stake here. in november, it is about power and control and who gets to make those decisions. our candidates are focused on making sure people can make their own health care decisions no matter their circumstance, and without judgment. i think that is important when we think about the contrast with republicans.

some of the biggest work we do is training women to tell their stories. our women have incredible stories about lynn cancer, raising children on their own, starting a business, being successful ceo's or running nonprofits, being community leaders, making real change in making a difference. most women don't wake up in the morning thinking they want to be a politician. we try to help them see themselves in government by electing and supporting a diverse group of women. we are proud that 40% of the women we have elected to the united states congress have been women of color. that is a game changer. right now, there are no black women in the senate. we are seeking to change that. this is the kind of difference emily's list makes. we don't think all women think the same. we don't think all women are the same. but we know our government is better when there are more democratic pro-choice women at the table. that is the changing the face of power difference that we can

make. host: emily cain is executive director of emily's list. thanks so much for being with us on thanks so much for being with us here on "washington journal." >> guest: a real pleasure. thanks for having me. >> host: when he waited for the kim's yesterday the attorney general spoke for just under four minutes. he took no questions on unred president. here's that statement in its entirety. >> since i became attorney general i've made clear that the department of justice will speak for its court filings and its work. just now the justice department has filed a a motion in the southern district of florida to unseal a a search warrant and property receipt relating to a court-approved search the fbi conducted earlier this week. that search was a premises located in florida belonging to the former president. the department did not makee any public statements on the day of the search. the former president publicly confirmed the surgeon that evening, as is his right.

copies of both the war and the fbi property receipt were provided on the day of the search to the former presidents council who is on-site during the search. the search warrant was authorized by a federal court upon the required finding of probable cause. the property receipt is a document that federal law requires law enforcement agents to leave you with the property owner. the department filed the motion to make public the war and receipt in light of the former presidents public confirmation of the search, the surrounding circumstances and the substantial public interest in this matter. faith filled adheres to the rule of law is the bedrock principle of a justice department and of our democracy.

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