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support c-span2 as a public service. >> you know who our guest speaker is so i'm not going to opine about his qualification, credentials and achievements which are both impressive and far too numerous to mention. instead i would like to point out a few things that might have your notice. if you're anything like me when you saweo this video you realize there is probably a site to james o'keefe you never knew. so having seen it you may not now be surprised to learn in 2002 he was the lead in the stage production of george gershwin, crazy for you. in 2011 he started another music video titled lander dan. as recently as last year he was cast in the lead role for an outdoor production of oklahoma.

who knew. what we do know he is an outstanding incredibly effective investigative journalist like no other. when he founded project veritas just revive investigative journalism. he reinvented it. we are pleased to have him here with us today and are truly grateful for his existence. ladies and gentlemen, please give the warmest east valley welcome to james o'keefe. [applause] >> thank you so much.

what an honor to be here in southern california. go brandon, am i seeing that. well i've never seen so much musical talent in this room. i know i'm in california but i've never seen singing, i'm a very musical person i am the founder of project veritas,mo project truth, most of you familiar we exposed powerful people and we do it with such flair. i don't think i would've started project. toss if i was a musical person i have an artistic motion to expose them but not really a political organization and we don't advocate for solutions or

public policy we just expose them. there is only one truth and one set of facts you not entitled to multiple realities. our mantra and model is be brave, do something and you gotta be courageous. before i get into all the stories. i promised as you all know i was the lead in oklahoma this past year. the musical i was currently the cowboy, i think i have a picture, there we are, that was me. this is an outdoor production of oklahoma which is great i didn't have to act that much i just looked around. this is me this past summer you might say how do you have time to do a musical, i took 19 days of rehearsals and that we did this performance. in the interest that i'm in a crowd, someone in here jim her.

i'm going to sing for you oh what a beautiful morning. here we go and i don't remember the pitch so i'm just going for it. reducing this on a horse and i'm a little allergic to horses so i pulled it off, there is a bright golden haze on the meadow. a bright golden haze on the meadow. the quorum is as high as an elephant's life. and it looks like it's common clear up to the sky. what a beautiful morning, what a beautiful day.

i got a beautiful feeling every things going my way. second verse, here we go. all the cattle are standing like statutes, all the cattle are standing like statutes they don't turn their head as they see me ride by but a little brown maverick is winking her i. oh what a beautiful morning. ♪ what a beautiful day ♪ ♪ i got a beautiful feeling ♪ ♪ everything's going my way ♪ ♪ oh what a beautiful day ♪♪

[applause] one more. one, two, 34, one, two, 34. ♪ where the wind comes sleeping on the place ♪ ♪ where the wave and wheat can smell sweet ♪ ♪ when the wind comes behind the rain. my honey lemon i ♪ ♪ sits alone and talk and watch the hock make lazy circles in the sky ♪ ♪ we know we belong to the land and the land we belong to is grin. were only saying you're doing fine oklahoma, oklahoma okay. >> icing on a horse.

i'm a very optimistic person i'm a veryra hopeful person and i travel around the country and i encounter a lot of cynicism and a lot of hopelessness. i hope over the next 30 minutes i inspire you just a little bit and i did saying what a beautiful morning it's a metaphor for where we are in this country and that we are in dark times people are very w divided and they shouldn't be on most things. we are on the book tour i written this book called american. >> maker all proceeds go to our nonprofit organization.ndca it's called muck breaker what does that word mean? it means a journalist who exposes information that powerful people don't want to expose releasing unauthorized

information. this country is founded on very unique principles. one is the firstst amendment. we talk about the first amendment but what does the first amendment mean it means informed consent you could not lecture people unless you know what is going on. i've written this book and it took me five years and i thought a lot about principles and values that we cherish and trying to define how to be a truth teller, how to speak the truth in cloud world trade war living in cloud world. i'm going to get permission the mission is to expose them and expose waste, fraud, abuse, corruption he remember a with my senioror companion dressed like that, that is how we were dressed. and we go undercover into the institutions we use pretense, disguise. if we just go up to people and identify as reporters will never

tell us the truth we have to do these things the last 12 years i've been exposing these institutions and they've hit back hard. this week something extraordinary happened president jeff zucker at cnn resigned. [applause] she is waving the flag, the emergent flag. he did reside. he did bad things more of these things are going to come out.ly and because the news organization cnn doesn't have core values or behave ethically, all these people chris cuomo and jake tapper are attacking each other. i don't know if you saw that. i don't know what's going to happen maybe cnn will get back to its mission of reporting the news, stranger things have happened but we went undercover into cnn recently, i like to

believe but not for what weom dd zucker would not be leaving. this man charlie chester is the control room director at cnn i want to show you videotape ofio him this is one of the biggestan things veritas ever did, charlie chester at cnn talking about cnn's mission. by the way he is not the most trusted name in news. he says is a propagated network designed to hurt donald trump elicited this. '[inaudible] >> we were creating stories we didn't know anything about. i think that's propaganda. >> if it wasn't for cnn trump

would've one. >> our focus was to get trump out of office. we had a saying that's what what is on biden to make him look cool is this. right there you see what our mission is we need more of these things cnn the most trusted names in news. >> my focus is to get trump outh if you will be propaganda network,

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isn't higher we need more people to die, this is our media it is a disgrace. you already know this but the more we can expose this, the better. information is accountability. we need more information you collect all the people you want to elect c an office but unless you can change people's hearts and minds including in california where you failed to recall your governor, that means people in your state disagree with you. unless you can change their hearts and minds you will not be able to fix the issues that youe are having because many of those people believe what they see on

cnn. it's really an information war, that is not easy to hear we want easy solutions, the politicians, sit right away but as long as you have people believe what they read and what they see you can have the same problems. at veritas we have a lot of fun. what are the best things ever did was this. i don't know if you saw this, we have whistleblowers everywhere we have informants everywhere that may be why the fbi came to my house, i don't know. another frequently asked question, james what is next, my response what is not next we have people everywhere and you'll see a story come out tomorrow, big story coming tomorrow whistleblowers coming out. in this video one of the most amazing moments ever at project veritas one such insider gave me access to president jeff suckers

9:00 a.m. conference calls. i proceeded to record the 9:00 a.m. conference calls for two months nonstop. one day it's all about transparency we want to know how they make this sausage, how they manufacture the consent. on the 61st day i decided to dial into the conference call. and say hello to jeff zucker and tell him i have been recording them for the last two months. my colleague live stream this. you're about to watch it it's a live stream moment unplanned, un-muted, dialing of the conference call, here we go. >> you are and muted. >> jeff becker, you know, this is james o'keefe, i've been listening to your cnn calls for basically two months recording y

everything, i just wanted to ask you some questions if you have a minutete do you still feel you e most trusted name in news, from what i've been hearing on the phone calls i don't know about that, we have a lot of recordings that indicate you're not really that independent of the journalist. >> thank you for your comments. i think what will do will set up a new system. >> i was kind of shocked that he actually talked to me for a minute. thank you for your comments will set up a new system. i just said will just get on the new system early on the new system. instead of read we will find you we are watching we are waiting for everywhere.

in fact the persons or person who got us access to this is still there. if the person or person inside of abc news gave us access to the jeff epstein moment which was a big deal that person is still there. you're not going to intimidate project veritas. so fast-forward i'm in california and we did a big story people say what your favorite story. i'd have to say the story on the teacher in california and sacramento, i don't know if you know this one. you guys have a lot of very interesting people in california particularly public school teachers. our model has changed. din the beginning we would have to infiltrate, now the people on the inside come to us someone had sent us a picture of a classroom and sacramento where

the teacher was hanging a picture of chairman now and antifa flag in the classroom. i found that interesting we sent our brave undercover journalist to meet with this guy, this is august of 2021 and met with him and recorded him talking about how he wants to turn his students into revolutionary this is that a coffee shop in sacramento he sent them to events and extra credit the parents know about this. >> i haven't antifa flag in a my room uncomfortable i don't

really know. >> he wants to make your students feel uncomfortable. we confronted this man in the street in his neighborhood and he told us that we were makingoj him feel uncomfortable. >> gabriel, how areve you. >> recto lionmac colleague recording we are recording but i think you're going to be more interested in what i have to say here. >> i don't feel comfortable. >> that he is saying he doesn't feel comfortable, he is a hammer and sickle sure don. these guys are high school teachers, communist. he was even stamping homework assignments with stalin's face. this is actually happening new it was happening and they did o nothing but up with recordings

of the man that everyone got outraged that the real scandal why are the people at the school still there. we release this video but something amazing happened there was school board meetings thehe next day at sacramento, california, hundreds of parents flooded the school board meetings. there was a moment in the trajectory of project veritas that defined what we are all about. it is causing that termed andrew the name of book righteous indignation yet to get people who don't agree with you. everyone agrees i'm preaching to the choir, that's okay but you have to get people who don't agree with you to agree with you if you want to affect change. what you're about to see is that these people are not like you not necessarily they're not republicans or democrats they're not activated at all in politics

they are just angry and angry mama bears and they see theiral kids being affected by this dangerous weather, a form of child abuse. i'm going to play this clip i really like this woman and what she says in a couple of other parents, organic righteous passionate people that are just for stuff. >> he was about to change my daughter's mind about a fascist crap. this is ridiculous. i'm protesting.

this does not go on in texas they are two grades higher than california. , to think that my very sound minded daughter would go against me and my wishes and my values to be able to go and support this man and he's putting her in harms way, what the hell are you all doing. >> he goes on and on these parents were outraged it was really -- we live streamed this board meeting on instagram they flooded in appearance continue to flooded this is around the time with other board meetings happened in virginia. >> project veritas is exactly what was happening at the elementary. >> let me tell you i'm not shocked, why there is another teacher right down the road who did the same thing to my son. >> about it teachers in california doing this they just need to be exposed, what was interesting about this in california which is a very difficult state to fire a

tenured teacher the actually fire this teacher after we exposed it and local news covered it mrs. local cbs 13. >> the past month on administrative leave, the school board vacated official decision to fire him. >> about a people say james how do you get the information out there, that's another question i was asked in the hallway. where do you distribute your videos.ay i say pbs news

>> you may say that's one feature. you're not going to change the world in a new york minute. it's going to take an a while. you have to expose all of them and we needed an army of these exposures and these grass roots people. veritas is a lot of incredible people coming to us and one recent one involved documents from the defense department.

you saw the story and we have whistle blowers everywhere and people give us documents inside the department of defense. literally, the pentagon papers and as i said yesterday, i don't know the pentagon papers from the 1970's, would the new york times publish those these days if it made the administration look bad? i don't know. but a lot of these sources have nowhere else to go. they really don't have anywhere to go so they come to us and in these documents you have revelations about gain of function research that was approached to darpa, was approached by equal health alliance to do research on bat-born coronaviruses and it was rejected because it was too dangerous according to the department of defense and documents at that say that anthony fauci approved it under niaa, if these documents were

accurate, that would mean that dr. fauci lied underoath. james murphy at the department of defense, he was not the source of the documents to us, but he did author them and he issued a statement to me when i-- we approached him for comment and listen to this what this marine corps major who wrote the documents, not the source of the information. >> james o'keefe would you like to make a comment and here is what the marine said. >> i offered no comments on the investigation or the internal marine corps deliberations, i offered those that desire answers and withhold them. there are good people striving for the truth working in and out of government and they succeed. to those that withhold, i pray for you. find the moral courage to come forward. don't let a lie be your legacy

to prosperity, people forgive in the heart of this nation, semper fi. >> very powerful. and what's interesting about the statement, there are good people strive-- this is his words, there are good people striving for the truth working in government. so in other words, and i've seen this that there are good people at these places and they're not necessarily all good institutions, but i would say the vast majority are good people just following orders and what we must do is appeal to their consciences so they can do the right thing. if we don't do that there's no hope for the country. it's the only option which is the mission. so i think you're going to see-- hint, hint, more people in the government coming forward with this information and we have to have those people's backs. we have to defend them when they come forward.

[applause]. >> okay, now i know at that mr. rogin is having issues these days. and i gave this, double down, double down, stop apologizing. don't apologize, there's nothing to apologize for. i saw this morning rumble offered rogin $100 million to go to rumble for spotify. i think that mr. rogin should have me on his podcast, i think that would be a great podcast and here what he had to say about the anthony fauci darpa stuff. they ask you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears and ask you to for the virtue of their own decree that they're credible. it's a self-anointed decree.

it's the veritas guy, it's not me. they're saying that the documents are fake? they're asking you to trust the new york times and "the washington post" by virtue that they are credible, but there's never any evidence. the bombshell coincided with our minnesota story a year ago, they didn't show you any on the record sources, they didn't show you video. they didn't show you documents, but they asked you to trust them and we have no reason to trust them. we have no reason to trust the media, says joe rogan. >> o'keefe from project veritas on the other day and that guy is the bogeyman to the left and exposing threats to democracy. he's exposing real live corruption. he's exposing real live conspiracy and they're like, no, but it's veritas. even if what he's saying is a--

threat somehow or another and decide that an individual, it's almost like a cure to the reality of whatever he's exposing. like you could say it doesn't matter because it's james o'keefe ap put that on top of the things and it goes away. >> exactly. >> it's wild. >> i think they're going to continue to attack us until they stop attacking us. but-- or continue to question our credibility, but the results speak for themselves. the results speak for themselves. and even dr. fauci, even this man, was in-- [inaudible conversations] >> this guy was in the senate and confirmed the authenticity of the documents and mentioned us by name. project veritas. >> what came out last night on project veritas was a grant

that was submitted to darpa. >> so we've got to keep posing what's going on inside and you're going to ask me, how do we do that? i'm giving you a road map. the book talks about it, it's about getting people inside to come public, which is a really hard thing to do, requires sacrifice, requires pain, requires perseverance and you know, and also the first chapter in the book is called suffering. you might say why did you write a chapter about that? well, i'm glad you asked. three months ago the fbi came to my house. this is the second time in my life that the fbi has put me in handcuffs. and i'm a journalist. i may be the only man you'll ever know who is not a gangster or a mobster or a terrorist who has had this happen to him on multiple occasions, it happened

in 2010 in new orleans and i wrote other book about that, and i was innocent, but i was falsely accused, incarcerated put on probation and eventually i got a misdemeanor in new orleans i was showing up asking questions and then last year, or the year before-- about a year and a half ago or so, we were approached by a source with joe biden's daughter's diary. a woman named ashley biden. a lot of people don't realize that joe biden has had a daughter named ashley. and somebody had a diary and we didn't publish, we can't verify with certainty that was hers and i didn't want to publish something and blow up project veritas publishing something that wasn't real. there are other reasons. we did approach joe biden for comment, we even tried to give the diary to ashley biden, her

lawyer, they wouldn't receive it so we gave it to law enforcement in florida where it was found. a year later, two-- or fbi agents show up to the house two of my colleagues on november 3rd and i make a statement about this, this is ridiculous, we're not going to be intimidated by this, we're going to keep doing our jobs, the southern district of new york, this is the federal court in southern new york state where i live, was behind this, and i said i'm not going to be intimidated by this. maybe their goal is to intimidate us. maybe to scare us, maybe their goal is to get access to our phones, and then on saturday, november 5th, november 6th, i hear a knocking on my door at 6 a.m. by the fbi. and you know, they're banging on my door, you know, open up, fbi, right? and i run to the door, open the door and there's 10 to 12 agents with flashlights in my faces and when that happened, i

was immediately taken back to my last encounter with the feds 10 years ago, and i said, oh, here we go again. and they put me in handcuffs. this was three, four months ago, november 6th and they threw me against the hallway wall in my apartment building, an hour north of new york city, and they put me in handcuffs and put me on my couch, and proceeded to show me a search warrant signed by a magistrate judge. lower federal judge in new york city. and i could not understand why this was happening. you know, as a reporter, i have a right to receive documents from anybody, so long as i didn't participate in the obtaining of them. and that's as american as apple pie. the supreme court has protected the right of journalists to receive such documents, some have claimed this diary was stolen. i didn't know if it was, even if it was, i had nothing to do with that and i didn't publish

it. so this is running through my head as i'm sitting there, with the fbi agents running through my home with a warrant signed by a judge. why did the judge sign at that warrant? i don't know. and they left the home and this is a pretty-- i'll be honest with you, et cetera certainly scary. maybe even this is why people don't do what i do, because you all fear this happening to you if you do what i do and isn't that the point? isn't that their goal? so really, this is about fear, isn't it? that you can't solve the problems that you want to solve unless you eliminate the underlying problem which is your fear, not my fear, i've been born again. i'm very-- i'm afraid of very little, but i see my countrymen are so afraid. we're all going to die one day. i got asked asked questions two

days ago, aren't you going to end up like julian asange? we're all going to die, debt and death and taxes, i am he going to follow any conscience. people say how do you get any rest? that's how i sleep at night i follow my conscience, on that day in my apartment building, yes, i with a was in danger. you can say whur -- i was in danger. and whenever they're in your apartment, a battering ram, you're in danger and that was a gross violation of my constitutional rights, your constitutional rights because the first amendment is the right in the bill of rights that makes all of our rights possible. if you don't have an informed

population, you have nothing. if they're doing that to journalist ins this country, you are screwed and you're next and i just want to play a few clips of some commentators talking about that why that is. two properties linked to project veritas have been raided by federal agents, project veritas they're a news organization, are they not? >> yeah, they are a news organization and should be treated as such. project veritas didn't publish this because they couldn't authenticate the document. why are the feds involved in this? let's assume it's a theft or a burglary, it's not a federal crime. >> and tucker had some comments about it. >> but most amazingly the point that o'keefe makes stands. since when does the fbi respond to domestic burglary, can you call the doj the next time your car is broken into? oh, you're not the president's

kid, this is a third world. >> i'm in my apartment holding a search warrants and minutes later, guess who i get a text message from? the new york times which somehow knows all the details. and we say the neighbors, the neighbors wouldn't know the subjects of a grand jury subpoena, the neighbors wouldn't know the things listed on the search winter, but somehow mike chmidt from the new york times knows about this and i'm still sitting there in a state of shock. that's the problem, our media is working in concert with our fbi? how is that left wing? what is liberal about it. it's illiberal. people say you're right wing. pharmaceutical companies, the fbi and the new york times is working in harmony, i don't know what that is, it's certainly not liberal.

but i'm sitting there, you know, dealing with this, going through my head and something extraordinary happens on november 9th, just three days after the raid. a brave reporter at the new york times, of all places, the same institution trying i guess to destroy us at project veritas. by the way the new york times i don't know what they're doing, they've written 12 front page hit pieces about me. he should be investigating the government. but one of their reporters, a different reporter, ben smith who works in the media columnist, a brave reporter, actually i give him credit, he tweeted out, i don't think that journalists should be cheering the raid on james o'keefe. he defended us and got attacked for it. but after that happened we had other people defend us, edward snowden freedom of the press, i'm sorry, but this is worrying from a freedom expression. unless they release evidence

that veritas was involved in the thet, we weren't, if there's none then the fbi raids are violation of the privacy protection act. he followed up, i know i'm going to get two dozen supplies reshowing my tweets, but o'keefe is not a journalist, read the statute, doesn't matter. imagine if there is a liberal organization under donald trump. by the way, trump never raided a journalist's home before like the biden's department of justice did. also, we had other organizations come to our defense. we had politico, fbi raid on veritas home sparks questions about press freedom. we had "the washington post," with the unintentionally ironic batman slogan, democracy dies in darkness. jeff bezos, click bait "the washington post" and even they defended the--

the justice department overreach invading our home and they were in court writing letters to the judge that signed the warrant, why did you do this? so there was a little hope because it seemed to me at least for the briefest moments of time, the left and right had come together and there was some agreement. some consensus, you just don't do this in the united states of america. but the politics of fear will not prevail in the united states of america, that there's an overlap here and principles that are so fundamental, the public's right to know. what is what we do at project veritas. i don't know what they're doing at the new york times, except stalking project veritas. we had national security reporters adam golden, i'm going to name them. adam golden, you know who you are, sitting outside of people's homes trying to docks my sources. these are your media, your cnn,

your new york times beau here some of the other employees, andeda mitchell at nbc news is on the reporters committee writing to this judge you shouldn't do this to project veritas. pretty extraordinary. and we had people on the floor of the house, railing on against these raids. >> madam speaker, the halls of this hallow republic have become darken with the fifth of injustice, a pre-dawn raid waking up in sheer terror, to guns, and searching for their authoritarian master. it is not pulled from the pages of a graphic novel. this is last week's headline. >> so is it scary? yeah, it's scary, you bet it's scary. another thing after this, senators write letters to the department of justice asking about this, talking about these cases that protect the rights of journalists and i'm proud to say a few days from now, that veritas, myself and our attorneys will be meeting with

50 chiefs of staff for united states senators on how to hold the department of justice accountable, that's just this week. [applause]. so we're going to be meeting in washington with a number of these senators and they're trying to figure out who authorized this raid. was it the attorney general? was it the president? it was an unconstitutional violation of the law and furthermore, the attorney general of the united states expressly forbid the excuse of search warrants against journalists for obvious reasons. so, so also, kind of i'm going to kind of getting towards my conclusion here of the speech, speaking of the new york times, we have sued them for defamation and we scored a huge victory. defamation lawsuit against the new york times. [applause] so again, your

question is how do we hold them accountable? nothing ever happens to these people. you're looking at an organization that does hold them accountable. we do things, but then they fight, they hit hard, a championship prize fight, right? they knock me down. what's important is that we get back up and we don't stop. so, this new york times lawsuit involves an article written about us, an article was in september of 2020, and the headline was project veritas releases misleading video, part of what experts call a coordinated disinformation campaign. i don't know who these experts are. so this is what they do. rather than address the evidence, they just call up some professor at stanford or wherever, and the professor says, yeah, he's a-- what does disinformation mean? does it mean that the information is not true.

it's hard to tell. in this tape. (inaudible) >> it certainly looks like evidence of vote are fraud to me. i mean, there's even one tape where people say where is the voter fraud? you're looking at voter fraud. i mean, it's an anecdotal piece of voter fraud, but it is in fact a criminal act you're looking at in minneapolis where this is recorded. and in this recording, you see it in the act, a voter or ballot harvester, rather, give money to a voter in exchange for a ballot. that's a federal felony. okay. so, there is indeed fraud, obviously, there's going to be fraud in various places, and we released this. and the new york times attacks me as a disinformation expert? so it is-- it's definitely hard to digest and one of the things they wrote in this article was

quote, project veritas making claims without evidence. hasn't made any claims. i am making no claims. i'm showing you a video recording of an interaction between two people. so, but this is what they do. they write these-- and you say why is this the way it is? this is what they do and as a result of this, new york times article, as a result of this new york times article, facebook banned the video i just showed you because facebook uses the new york times as their fact checkers. okay? and that-- and the circle of propaganda is complete. so what do you do about it? we sued the new york times and we've scored a victory against them. [applause] and this is a recording-- these are the words from the

judge and the supreme court of the state of new york saying that it was the new york times that engaged in disinformation and deception. listen to this. >> the articles that are subject of this action called the video deception, but the dictionary says disinformation and deceptive applies to the failure to note they injected their opinions in these articles as they now claim. >> they injected their opinion in a news article and that opinion was used by the claimant's opinion. and we sued them for defamation, but facebook is banning the video based on an opinion? well, think about that, that's precisely the very disinformation and misinformation they're projecting onto me. we have to do something, here is another clip, this is on christmas eve. the judge ruled against the new york times, sometimes the new york times got access to my

attorney/client privilege documents after the fbi raid, they published those documents. i mean, these are the documents written by the attorney representing me in the lawsuit against the new york times. this is dystopian. this is orwellion, it's not science fiction, but real life and the judge saying that the new york times, that they are sanctioned. they should not be publishing the attorney-client documents. >> 63921 of 2020 project veritas versus new york times company. i'm cognizant that there are basically two bedrock principles at issue here, certainly freedom of speech, freedom of the press and attorney-client privilege are bedrocks would not want to live without. >> and your honor pointed out there were two bed dment --

bedrock principles that-- >> that would be the first time you've quoted me right. thank you. >> the new york times has never been held accountable in their lives. thing they're above the law, think they're god. and i think from the new york times, nothing holds them accountable, but we are. this is the judge in the case. >> both sides here are media organizations. the times is claiming that it has a different status as a news organization. >> but it doesn't. the law applies equally to all people involved. so, project veritas will be deposing new york times reporters under oath on video, asking them questions and releasing those deposition videos for the world to see. [applause] speakings of

deposition videos, i've been deposed many times. by the way, i like being deposed, you know why? i don't release the names of our sources or donors, everything else is. and by the way, project veritas has never lost lawsuit, that's because we're ethical, but they're not ethical and by the way, they don't like being deposed. they hate being deposed. i think when they started suing me, and they've sued me a lot, 10 years ago, they were betting on the fact that i would settle the lawsuits and give up, but they quickly realized in discovery, in the discovery part of a lawsuit you get to depose them. that's an under oath deposition for 10, 12 hours sometimes. where you're cross examined,

and when they're cross examined, this woman was a-- worked in the 2016 election on behalf of hillary clinton and we did a story about what they were doing. they sued us, thinking that i would back down. well, we eventually won that lawsuit, but in the discovery part, it was fascinating to see how they conduct themselves and now you will see in a way that words cannot explain just how devastating a videotape deposition can be against our adversaries. >> did you hear the statement have you been to-- >>dy. >> who said that? >> that was me. >> did you eventually publish a video of these events? >> i published the video of events that occurred earlier

this evening. >> so you vetted out these parts the first two parts where you and ryan clayton were confronting-- >> (inaudible). >> you're not a lawyer and your lawyer is here and he'll object for you so what i'm asking you-- >> i disagree with your characterization of my actions. >> which part. >> that i edited anything out. >> oh, okay. so what did you do that these parts didn't make the video. >> well, so, it's called editing. [laughter] >> yeah, now do you understand the importance of a videotaped deposition. you start to see the double-think, the george orwell

described as double think, to change your mind in a moment. these are your journalists. this is your new york times, this is your hillary clinton operatives, it's all the same. it's literally. i'm not a psychologist so i'm not qualified to say this, but some have described it as psychopaths, and i don't-- i'm just showing you the way. so we intend to depose more people and really, our mission is about illumination. it's about, you know, i love this picture because it describes our vision for the future. people always-- american wants to know what's next. this is what's next. you're looking at what's next. brave people, regular, honest people working in societies, institutions that expose what's going on and it's going to require sacrifice and that's the problem that you're all going to have with this. dennis says it bet her than i

can. there are three things you can do, number one, you can do something. number two, you can donate to people who do something, we're a registered 501 c-3 tax exempt knob profit charitable organization or number three, you can do nothing. now, that's not a condemnation of you if you do nothing, maybe you just want to raise your kids, pay your mortgage and live your life. that's fine, but you know what to do. the question is, do you have the will to do it? are you willing to face the sacrifice, the uncomfortableability >> are you willing to be uncomfortable? are you willing to have federal agents harass you? that's probably going to happen again. but if you keep going, if you don't-- if you get back up, if you do what my mentor andrew breitbart described as run towards the fire, you'll send a message to other people watching for you,

rooting for you that they can do it, too, and that's how we can solve the problems in our society. that's how we can bring consensus. that's how we can do it, it comes through information. it comes through revelation. it comes through veritas. thank you. [applause] >> thing they wanted do a couple of questions, is that correct? okay, you pick on who you wanted to ask the questions.

so many questions. i hope i answered all the questions. they can pray. they can pray. states without works is dead. yes, but thank you, we do need-- and we appreciate your prayers. >> james, have they released the documents in connection with the ashley biden diary? >> someone else published it. some other organization got access to this document and did publish it online and it didn't really cause an impact. >> do i have body guards? i'm not going to disclose my security protocol because that would defeat the purpose. >> james, when did you realize these people weren't just democrats with the media when you realized they're evil like they would kill you when you said you'd never commit

suicide? how many years has it been? it took me a while to realize it's not political, they're bad. >> when did i realize it's bad people. very young. it's an evolution, obviously, you're raised to pledge allegiance to the flag and these principles, and everyone-- except 2%, 2% is really extreme, but everyone grows up and you e pluribus unum, and the laws and great and american things. i was probably a teenager, a big consumer of newspapers as a teenager, especially when i entered college, i would read the newspaper every day and read the new york times every day and the star ledger, i'm from new jersey, and i read usa today. some of these paper almost no longer exist by the way, they've become a shell of themselves. i read that and i wanted to do

something, i wanted to expose what was going on because i could see just by consuming the news as a young person, that things were not as they seemed and rarely as they should be. i didn't know what to do about it, but in the beginning i started a newspaper at my college and tried to confront professors, the first thing i did, ban lucky charms because it's against irish people. that was satire and first hidden camera and i was trying to expose their mentality, that was the first video. another question. yes. (inaudible) >> you had a-- something popped up on my e-mail that you had exposed vaccination, the wrong vaccination given to children. is that something that you're going to cover down the road

or-- >> yeah, it's-- with all of these stories, it's just -- the price of liberty is eternal vigilance, you keep going. we broke that story in staten island, new york, a nurse had recordings of her colleagues saying that they were injecting children, this is in new york city, homeless and, you know, impoverished children they were injecting the children were the wrong vaccine, mixing the covid vaccines with anti-bacteriaal water-- and they're not qualified. and statements that they were doing this and she went public and she's the brave person i speak about and she'll inspire others to go public as well, yes.

so a great, great speech. you're speaking about people coming forward and being brave and so my son is a political commentary, he's 22, gen z and he's been on late tv, gavin mcinnis wants to give him a program all that. he's been exposed and reported to the fbi, he was defamed as a russian operative and we're waiting upon our immigration. so 54,000 people have attacked him. he's on every political-- every social platform and so, where-- i'm a single mom we're doing everything we can to protect him and elijah schaeffer and sidney watson are coming to his side, right. this is a thing as soon as they see the up and coming, kind of

young conservative speakers, they're out for them, and they come with everything now. and so, as far as we can see they reported him to the fbi hotline or something so they're on his radar. and so, i mean, he want to launch a definition suit so i'm in the process. we can't find this guy, he's a ghost. so we get it, but this is like john doyle, and nick, look what they did to no ply list, raided his bank account. how do we approach this and get the young people to continue on. this is his life. a degree in political science and going into law. >> how do we deal with the intim digs and attacks. >> and-- >> i think you just keep going. >> how do we-- >> you're asking me a psychological question. how do you keep going? i mean, you're talking to a person who is speaking

personally, i don't know some of the names you mentioned. but i mean, i was incarcerated. i mean, and i had every reason to give up. i have been-- i wrote three books, the latest, read the first chapter of the book and then we'll talk. david, a colleague of mine was raided by kamala harris' office in california, the guy who exposed the planned parenthood baby parts, remember those? the state of california took his hard drive. that did not stop david-- he just keeps going. i mean, i know it's -- i know that sounds like a simple answer, but it's true. the only one that can actually stop you is you stopping. >> he's 22, i mean i've got-- >> well, probably less cynical than the boomers, as far as i'm concerned. >> so sometimes-- i was 24, 25, when what

happened in new orleans. and i think it's, you know, good parenting, good motivation, but it's not easy, but tell him to get back up and keep going. keep reporting. if he has a truth to tell, and if someone's willing to listen. litigation is not easy, it's expensive. that's another issue, but you know, i've been saying this on my talks, that they do have a lot of power and we are nothing, but we are not alone. so, keep going. [applause] one more or good? one more question and then we'll call it.

(inaudible). >> i'm not familiar with that, i'll need to look into it, sorry. not familiar, but we'll look into that. see what that is. all right. well, thank you all. i appreciate it. thank you. [applause] >> american history tv saturdays on c-span2 exploring the people and events that tell the american story. at 8:50 people eastern, professor at university of michigan, the star spangled banner and its meaning and how it's evolved. and latrice donaldson reports

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