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which are both impressive and far too numerous to mention. so instead, i would like to point out just a few things that might have escaped your notice. if you're anything like me, when you saw this video, you realized there's probably a side to james o'keefe you never knew. [laughter] so having seen it, you may not now be surprised to learn that in 2002, he was the lead in a stage production of "crazy for you". in 2011, he starred in another music video. as recently as last year, he was cast in the lead role for an outdoor production of "oklahoma". [cheers and applause] who knew? what we do know is that he's an outstanding incredibly effective

investigative journalist like no other. when he founded project veritas, he didn't just revive investigative journalism, he reinvented it. we are pleased to have him here with us today and are truly grateful for his existence. ladies and gentlemen, please give the warmest east valley welcome to james o'keefe. [cheers and applause] >> thank you so much. what an honor to be here and in southern california. i'm -- go brandon.

wow. well, i have never seen so much musical talent in this room. [laughter] i know i'm in california, but i was telling randy, singing? i mean, yes, i'm a very musical person. i am the founder of project veritas, project truth. [cheers and applause] >> most of you are familiar with project veritas. we expose powerful people, and we do it with such flair. i don't think i would have started project veritas if i wasn't a musical person, artistic person. i think it is kind of an artistic mission to expose them. we're not really a political organization. we don't really advocate for solutions or, you know, public policy. we just expose them. there's only one truth. there's only one set of facts. you are not entitled to multiple real realities. our mantra, our motto is be

brave, do something. and in the -- you got to be courageous. but before i get into all the stories and tell you some stories, i promised as you all know i was the lead in "oklahoma" this past year. i was curly the cowboy. i think i actually have a picture of -- oh, there we are. that was me. this is an outdoor production of "oklahoma", which is great because i didn't really have to act that much. i just looked around. this is me this past summer. you may say how do you have time to do a musical? well, you know, i just took 19 days of rehearsals, and then we did this performance. so in the interest of being that i'm in a crowd with -- someone in here was in ben hur; right? there's some really theatrical people. i'm going to sing for you "oh what a beautiful morning". here we go. i don't remember the pitch.

i'm just going for it. ready? [laughter] this is me -- i sang this on a horse, on a horse. i'm a little allergic to horses. i pulled it off. ♪ there's a bright golden haze on the meadow ♪ ♪ there's a bright golden haze on the meadow ♪ ♪ the corn is as high as an elephant's eye ♪ ♪ and it looks like it's climbing clear up to the sky ♪ ♪ oh what a beautiful morning ♪ ♪ oh what a beautiful day ♪ ♪ i got a beautiful feeling ♪ ♪ everything's going my way ♪ >> second verse, here we go.

♪ ♪ oh the cattle are standing like statues ♪ ♪ oh the cattle are standing like statues ♪ ♪ they don't turn their head as they see me ride by ♪ ♪ but a little brown maverick is winking her eye ♪ ♪ oh what a beautiful morning ♪ ♪ oh what a beautiful day ♪ ♪ i got a beautiful feeling ♪ ♪ everything's going my way ♪ ♪ oh what a beautiful day ♪ [cheers and applause] >> all right, one more. one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four. ♪ ♪ oklahoma where the wind comes

sweeping down the plains ♪ ♪ when the wind comes right behind the rain ♪ ♪ oklahoma every night ♪ ♪ sit alone and talk and watch the hawk make lazy circles in the sky ♪ ♪ we know we belong to the land ♪ ♪ and the land we belong to is grand ♪ ♪ when we say ♪ ♪ we're only saying you're doing fine oklahoma ♪ ♪ oklahoma okay ♪ [cheers and applause] >> i sang that on a horse. [laughter] >> all right. now, i'm a very optimistic person. i'm a very hopeful person. i travel around the country, and

i encounter a lot of cynicism and a lot of hopelessness. i hope over the next 30 minutes, i can inspire you, just a little bit, and i did sing oh what a beautiful morning, and i think it is kind of a metaphor for where we are right now in this country, in that we are in some dark times. people are very divided, and they shouldn't be on most things. so we're on this book tour. i have written this book -- all proceeds go to project veritas, our nonprofit organization. it is called muckraker. what does that word mean? it means a journalist who exposes information that powerful people don't want exposed, releasing unauthorized information. this country is founded on very unique principles, one of which is the 1st amendment. we talk about the 1st amendment. but what does it mean? it means informed consent.

it means you can't elect your people unless you know what's going on. so i've written this book, and it took me five years to write this book. i really thought a lot about principles and values that we cherish and trying to define how to be a truth teller, how to speak the truth in clown world. we're living in clown world. so i'm going to get to our mission. by the way, our mission at project veritas is to expose, to expose waste, fraud, abuse, corruption. you remember the time i went in as a pimp with my female companion, dressed like that. that's how we were dressed. we go undercover into these institutions. we use pretense. we use disguise, because if we just go up to people and identify ourselves as reporters, they will never tell us the truth, so we have to do these things where, you know, the last 12 years i have been exposing these institutions, and they have hit back at me hard. but this week something extraordinary happened.

president jeff zucker at cnn resigned. [cheers and applause] she's waving the flag back there, the american flag. and he did resign. he did some bad things. more of these things are going to come out. and because the news organization cnn apparently doesn't really have any core values or behave ethically all these people chris cuomo and jake tapper are attacking each other. i don't know if you saw that. maybe cnn will actually get back to its mission, reporting the news, stranger things have happened, but we went undercover into cnn recently, i like to believe that but not for what we did, zucker would not be leaving. this man is a control room director at cnn. i want to show you some videotape of him. this video was one of the biggest things veritas ever did. charlie chester at cnn talking

about cnn's mission. and by the way, he doesn't say they are the most trusted name in news. charlie chester at cnn says they are a propaganda network designed to hurt donald trump. listen to this. >> i think we got him. ike you pa young geriatric. we were creating story. so that's that's i think that's right. i believe it that if it wasn't for cnn. i don't know that trump would have got voted out or focus was to get trump out of office right wi ore -- the focus was to get trump out of the office. >> our focus was to get trump to help biden to put aviator shades

on biden to make him look cool, he said quote without saying that's what our focus is. right there you see what our mission is. we need more of these things, cnn, james earl jones, the most trusted name in the news. why isn't it cnn quote our focus is to get trump out. if you want to be a propaganda network, that's your right. just call yourself that. but they don't. so we have to use hidden cameras. this guy didn't know he was being recorded. in this clip, he talks about the covid pandemic being gangbusters for cnn's ratings because it is all about fear; right? it is all about money. it is not about science. don't take my word for it. let me quote cnn's control room director. >> gangbusters for our ratings. >> they put the numbers on the screen, the death toll. you can't turn on -- i don't think anybody here watches -- i don't think anybody watches cnn.

they have like 17 viewers. most of them in airports. but their content, this stuff is shared on instagram and facebook and twitter and google news feeds that tech companies share it. but here you have the death numbers with wolf blitzer, and chester says we do this intentionally. we put the death toll on the screen to make it higher. we need more people to die so that our ratings can go up at organizations like cnn, and many people in this room, people come up to me, james, what's behind this? i'm showing you what's behind it. this is the media machine trying to scare you so they can make money, get ratings, and do what they do. but don't take my word for it. let me quote the guy behind the curtain.

>> [inaudible] >> the guy is literally wanting the deaths to be higher. why isn't it higher? we need more people to die. this is our media. it is a disgrace. it is a disgrace. you already know this. but the more we can expose this, the better. see, information is accountability. we need more information. you can elect all the people you want to elect in office, but unless you can change people's hearts and minds, including in your state of california, where you failed to recall your governor, that means that people in your state voted -- disagree with you. unless you can change their hearts and minds, you're not going to be aebl -- able to fix the issues that you are having because many of those people believe what they see on cnn. okay? it is really an information war. that's not an easy thing to hear. we want easy solutions. throw money at politicians. fix it right away. but as long as you have people that believe what they read and what they see, you're going to

have the same problems. at veritas, we have a lot of fun. one of the best things we ever did was this. i don't know if you saw this. we have whistle-blowers everywhere. we have informants everywhere. that may be why the fbi came to my house. i don't know. [applause] another frequently asked question, james, what's next? my response, what is not next? we have people everywhere, and you will see a story come out tomorrow by the way, a big story tomorrow, a whistle-blower coming out. in this video, one of the most amazing moments ever at project veritas, one such insider gave me access to president jeff zucker's 9:00 a.m. conference calls. and i proceeded to record those 9:00 a.m. conference calls for two months, non-stop.

[applause] it is all about transparency. we want to know how they make the sausage. we want to know how they manufacture the consent to quote. on the 61st day, i decided to dial into the conference call and say hello to jeff zucker and tell him that i have been recording him for the last two months. and my colleague live streamed this. you're about to watch it. this a live stream moment, unplanned, unmuted, dialling into the conference call. here we go. >> you're unmuted. >> hey, jeff zucker, are you there? >> yes. >> this is james o'keefe. we've been listening to your cnn calls for basically two months, recording everything, just wanted to ask you some questions, if you have a minute. do you still feel you're the most trusted name in news because i have to say from what i've been hearing on these phone calls, i don't know about that. i mean, we have a lot of recordings that indicate you're

not really that independent as a journalist. >> thank you for your comments. in light of, that i think what we'll do is we'll set up a new system. [laughter] >> i was kind of shocked that he actually talked to me for a minute. thank you for your comments. we'll set up a new system. i always say to my staff. we're just get on the new system, jeff zucker. we are already on your new system. maybe instead of setting up a new system, don't be fraudulent. don't lie. don't deceive. veritas will find you. we are watching. we're waiting. we're [laughter] [applause] >> in fact, the person, the persons or person who got us access to this is still there, so -- and the person or persons inside abc news that got us

access to the amy robach jeff epstein moment that we recorded, that person is still there. you are not going to intimidate project veritas. i'm in california here, and we did a big story -- people always say what's your favorite story over the last year or so? i would have to say the story we did on the teacher in california, in sacramento. i don't know if you remember this one. you have a lot of very interesting people in california. particularly your public schoolteachers. our motto has changed. in the beginning, we would have to infiltrate. now the people on the inside come to us. someone had sent us a picture of a classroom in sacramento with the teacher was hanging a picture of chairman mao and antifa flag in the classroom. i found that interesting. so we sent one of our brave undercover journalists to meet

with this guy. this is in august of 2021 and met with him and recorded him talking about how he wants to turn his students into revolutionaries. this is at a coffee shop in sacramento. >> [inaudible] and send them to events where they will get extra credit for protesting with antifa. i wonder if the parents know about this. >> [inaudible]. ::

>> this guy is a high school teacher. a communist.he was even standing homework assignments withstalin's face . and this was actually happening and it happened and they saw it. they knew that it was happening and they did nothing. it wasn't until veritas showed up with recordings of demand that everyone outraged and that's the real scandal. why are the people at the schools still there? we released this video but

something amazing happened. they were school board meetings the next day at sacramento, california. hundreds of parents flooded the school board meetings . . there was a moment in the trajectory of project veritas that really defined what we're all about, it's causing that with ida tarbell and what breitbart terms righteous indignation. you have to get people in who don't agree with you to agree with you. you have to get people who don't agree with you to agree with you if you want to affect change so what you're about to see is that. these people are not like you. not necessarily. they're not necessarily republicans, they're not democrats, they're not

necessarily activated at all in politics, they're just angry and their angry mama bears and their seeing their kids being affected by this dangerous , whether it's communism or fascism or whatever you want to call it, abuse. it's a form of child abuse and i'm going to play this clip . i really like this woman and what she says and a couple of other parents. again, organic, righteous, passionate people that are just pissed off. >> in 13 days he was allowed to change my daughter's mind about some fascist crap that saw him run into school. [applause] this is ridiculous . i'm from texas. so this doesn't go on in texas. this does not go on in texas. they are to graze higher than california so to think that my very sound minded daughter would go against me and my wishes and our values and our home, to be able to go and support this man and is putting us in harm's way,

what are you doing? >> these parents were so outraged and it got to such, it was really one of the most amazing, the live stream this board meeting and they flooded in. the parents continue to flood, this is around the time in virginia. >> it's exactly what i was concerned about having . >> i'm not shocked. not because there's another teacher right down the road who did the same thing to my son. >> there's a lot of teachers in california doing this, they just need to be exposed. what was interesting about this was in california which is a very difficult state to fire a tenuredteacher they actually fire this teacher after we exposed it . [applause] and local news covered it. this is local cvs 13. >> the past month he's been

put on paid administrative leave, the school board making an official decision to fire him. >> a lot of people say james, how do you get the information out there? another question i was asked in the hallways. where do you distribute your video and i say cbs news distributes my video. you're not thinking big enough. do i see it on breitbart, do i see it onfox, hopefully but i want them to talk about it . okay? and you say well, that's impossible. no it's not possible, i'm showing you it is possible but it requires getting information. that's so powerful that they can't ignore it. that's really our mission, isn't it? it's to get information that's visual and it's not just text or speeches or white papers or articles but usual information.

there's a chapter in this book american muckraker called image where i say obviously image is transfixed and they are more powerful than the spoken word so there are some things as a country i still think we are are united on, very few but you don'tabuse children. you don't brag about it . there's certain things i think we could focus on that we can get things like this to happen. you might say that's one teacher and i say you're not going to change the world all in a new york minute . it's going to take a little while. you have to expose all of them and we need an army of these exposures, these grassroots people. veritas there's a lot of incredible people coming to us and one recent one in full documents from the defense department. i don't know if you saw the story. now we have whistleblowers everywhere, people give us documents inside the department of defense. literally, the pentagon papers and it's interesting i

said yesterday i don't even know the so-called pentagon papers on the 1970s. with the new york times even published those these days it made the administration look bad? i don't know. but a lot of these sources have nowhere else to go. they really don't have anywhere to go so they come to us and in these documents you had revelations about gain of function research that was approached to darpa to be done research on backboard coronavirus because it wastoo dangerous according to the department of defense . documents also say anthony fauci was approached and proved it under his leadership. these documents are accurate. that would mean anthony fauci lied under oath. and this was authored by a marine corps major named joseph murphy at the department of defense.he

was not the source of the documents to us but he did offer them and he actually issued a statement to me when i, we approached him for comment and listen to what this marine corps major who wrote these documents again, not the source of the information . listen to what he said to us . >> james o'keefe asked this person would you like me to commentand this is what this marine said . >> i offer no comments on the investigation or internal marine corps deliberations . for a brief comment to those that withhold them. those seeking answers i offer encouragement. there are good people striving for the truth working together in and out of government and theysucceed . to those that withhold i pray for you. find the moral courage to come forward. don't let alive be a legacy to austerity. people willforgive. a commitment totruth is in the heart of this nation . semper fi . >> really powerful and what's interesting about his statement i found was that there are good people, this

is his word. good people striving for the truth working in government. so in other words, and i've seen this that there are good people at these places. not necessarily all good institutions but i would even say the vast majority of them are good people that are just following orders . and what we must do is appeal to their consciences so that they can do the right thing. if we don't do that there's no hope for the country. it's the only option. so i think you're going to see hint hint, more people in the government coming forward with this information. and we have to have those peopleback. we have to defend them when they come forward . okay. so now, i know that mister rogan is having some issues these days. i believe this advice yesterday, i say rogan,

double down. stop apologizing. don'tapologize, there's nothing to apologize for . i saw this morning's rumble offered him $100 million to go to rumble, or spotify. i think mister rogan should have me on his podcast. it would be a great podcast but here's what he had to say about this anthony fauci darpa stuff. they ask you to reject the evidence of your own eyes and ears, don't they? they ask you to trust them by virtue of the decree that they are credible. by virtue of their own decree so it's really a self-anointed racket. i'm not going to trust that video because of that veritas guy. it's not me, are you saying the documents are fake?

but this is what they do. that's the propaganda. they ask you to trust the new york times and washington post by virtue of the degree they are credible because they say so and they never show you any evidence. that tax return story which was a new york times bombshell that was coincided with our minnesota story, they didn't show you any on the record sources, they didn't show you any video. they didn't even show you any documents but theyask you to trust them. and we have no reason to trust them . we have no reason to trust the media says joe rogan. >> we had joe o'keefe from project veritas. he's a bogeyman to the last, he's exposing threats to democracy, real life corruption. he's exposing real life conspiracies and their like no, but it's veritas. even if what he's saying is a threat, somehow or another decided an individual can be like, it's almost like a cure to the reality of whatever he's exposing. you could say it doesn't

matter because it's james o'keefe and you put that on top of the thing and it all goesaway . >> i think they're going to continue to attack us until they stop attacking us but the court will continue to question our read of credibility but the results speak for themselves. even doctor fauci, even this man. [inaudible] this guy was in the senate after those documents came out and confirmed the authenticity of the documents and even mentioned us by name. project veritas. >> what came out last night on a project veritas was, that was submitted to darpa. >> we've got to keep exposing what's going on inside and

you're going to ask how do we do that? it's about getting people inside to come public. this is a really hard thing to do. it requires sacrifice. it requires pain. it requiresperseverance . and also the first chapter of the book is called suffering. you might say why didn't you write a chapter about that ? i'm glad you asked. three months ago the fbi came to my house. this is the second time in my life the fbi has put me in handcuffs. and i'm ajournalist . i may be the only man you'll ever know who's not a gangster or a monster or a terrorist who has had this happen to him on multiple occasions, it happened in 2010 in new orleans, i wrote a whole other book about that and i was innocent but i was falsely accused. incarcerated, put on

probation, eventually i got a misdemeanor for that incident in new orleans and then last year, the year before, about a year and a half ago or so we were approached by a source with joe biden's daughter's diary. a named ashley biden, many people don't realize joe biden has a daughter named ashley biting and we looked in it into it, we decided not to publish them by diary. we couldn't verify with certainty that it was hers and i didn't want to publish dumping and how to blow up project veritas by publishing something that wasn't real. there's other reasons for not publishing it. we did approach joe biden for comment. we even tried to give the diary to ashley biden, her lawyer and they wouldn't receive it so we gave it to ron jaworski of florida.

a year later to agents show up with two of my colleagues onnovember 3 . i make a statement about this is ridiculous, were not going to be intimidated bythis. we're going to keep doing our jobs. the southern district of new york , the federal court in the southern new york state where i live was behind this and i said i'm not going to be intimidated by this. maybe their goal is to intimidate us, scare us, maybe their goal is to get access to our phones and then on saturday, november 5, november 6 i hear a knocking on my door at 6 am by the fbi. and you know, they're banging on my door. open up, fbi and i run to the door, open the door and there's 10 to 12 agents with flashlights in my face and when that happens i was immediately taken back to my last encounter with the feds 10 years ago and i said here we go again. they put me in handcuffs.

this is three, four months ago. november 6 and they threw me against the hallway wall in my apartment building, my two bedroom apartment about an hour north of new york city and they put me in handcuffs and put me on my couch and proceeded to show me a search warrant signed by a magistrate judge, lower federal judge in new york city and i could not understand why this was happening . as a reporter i have a right to receive documents from anybody so long as i didn't participate in the obtaining of them. that's as american as apple pie. the supreme court has protected the right of journalists to receive such documents. some have claimed this diary was stolen, i didn't know if it was but even if it was i had nothing to do with that and i didn't publish it so

this is running through my head as i'm sitting therewith these fbi agents rummaging through my home with this warrant signed by the judge. why did the judge signed that warrants, i don't know . they left the home and this is i'll be honest with you, it was certainly scary. maybe even this is why people don't know do what i do because you all fear this happening to you if you do what i do and isn't that the point ? isn't that their goal? so really this is about fear, isn't it? the problems that you want to solve unless you eliminate the underlying problems with your fear, not my fear. i've been born again. i'm afraid of very little. but i see my countrymen are so afraid. we're all going to die one day. i was asked today to go, i get asked these questions that are so hard, arching and going to and up like julian assange. am i going to end up in

solitaryconfinement, i don't know what we're all going to die .it's the only certainty, death and taxes so i'm going to follow my conscience and do the right thing. that's what i'm going to do. and people say how do you get any rest, that's how i sleep at night. because i do follow my conscience so on that day in my apartment building, yes. i was in danger . you could say i was in danger . whenever you're like incarcerated or in handcuffs or you have federal agents pounding on your door with a battering ram, it's safe to say you're in danger . so it's happens and it was a gross violation of my constitutional rights. your constitutional rights because the first amendment is the right in the bill of rights to make all the other rights possible . if you don't have an informed population you have nothing. if they're doing this to journalists you are screwed . so you're next and i want

to play play a few clicks of commentators talking about why that is two properties linked to project veritas have beenrated by federal agents. they are a news organization, are they not ? >> theyshould be treated as such . >> project veritas didn't publish this because they couldn't verify the authenticity of the documents. what is sobewildering about this is why in the world on the feds even involved in this ? let's assume it's a theft or a burglary. it's not a federal crime also talk or have some comments about it but in the points o'keefe makes is the ones that stand. since when doesthe fbi respond to domestic burglary ? do you call that the oa next time your card is broken into? this is totally third world and it's an attack on press freedom. >> this happened of course and i'm sitting there in my apartment with holding a search warrant and minutes later yes who i get a text

message from? the new york times which somehow knows all the details . let me say the neighbors, the neighbors would know the subject of a grand jury subpoena. the neighbors wouldn't know the things listed on the search warrant but somehow mike schmidt, national security reporter at the new york times knows about some of these things and i'm still sitting there in a state of shock. and that's the problem. our media is working in concert with our fbi? how is that left-wing? what is liberal, it's still liberal. there's nothing liberal about that. people say you're right wing. in a world where pharmaceutical companies, the fbi and new york times are working in harmony i don't even know what that is . it's certainly not liberal . but i'm sitting there dealing with this going through my head but something extraordinary happens. on november 9, just three days after the raid. a brave reporter at the new

york times of all places, same institution trying i guess to destroy us, project veritas. i don't know what they they're doing, the written front-page pieces about me. they should be investigating the government. but one of their reporters, a different reporter ben schmidt who works in the media columnist brave reporter actually, i give him credit. he tweeted i don't think journalistsshould be cheerleading the raid on james o'keefe, he defended us and he got attacked for it but after that happened , we had other people defend us, edward snowden, freedom of the press perspective, i'm sorry, read the tweets but this is worrying from a press freedom perspective. until the department of justice releases evidence veritas was involved in the theft because if there's none then these fbi rates are a violation of the constitution act and he followed up.

i know i'm going to get two dozen replies ratio in my tweets but o'keefe is not a journalist and he said read the statute, it doesn't matter. i don't like o'keefe or veritas imagine ifthis were a liberal organization under donald trump . trump never rated a journalists home before. like biden's department of justice did. also we had other organizations come to our defense. we had politico, fbi raid on project veritas sparks question about press freedom. we had the washington post with the ironic that and slogandemocracy dies in darkness . democracy dies in darkness. jeff bezos's click they arrived the washington post but even they defended justice department overreach in rating our home and we had the committee to protect journalists and the reporters committee in court writing

letters to the judge that sideboards why did you do this ? so there was a little hope because it seems to me at least for the briefest of moments of time the left and the right had come together and there was some agreement, some consensus you just don't do this in the united states of america. the politics offear will not prevail in the united states of america . there's an overlap here and there's principles that are so fundamental, the public's right to know which is what we do. i don't know what they're doing at the new york times accept stalking project veritas. they were trying to document our sources, we had security reporters, i'm going to name them adam goldman you know you are sitting outside of peoples homes trying to dox my sources. these are your cnn, your new york times but here are some of the other employees, andrea mitchell at nbc news is on this committee were writing to this judge saying

you shouldn't do this. to project veritas. pretty extraordinary and we had people on the floor of the house railing on against these rates. >> the halls of this republic have become darkened with the smut and feel of corrupted justice. imagine a predawn raid awakened from a dead sleep two men with guns screaming, searching for damning evidence againstauthoritarian master . this horrifying vision is not toldfrom the pages of some graphic novel . this was last week's headline . >> you but it's scary. but another thing that happened after this is we had senators write letters to the department of justice asking about this. talking about these cases that protect the rights of journalists and i'm proud to say in a few days from now that myself and our attorneys will be meeting with 50 chiefs of staff for united states senators on how to hold the department of justice accountable. that's this week.

so we're going to meeting in washington with a number of these senators and they are trying to figure out who authorized this raid? was it the attorney general? was it the president? it was an unconstitutional violation of the law and furthermore theattorney general expressly forbids the execution of search warrants against journalists for obvious reasons . so also, i'm getting towards my conclusion of the speech. speaking ofthe new york times , we have sued them for defamation and we scored a huge victory, defamation lawsuit againstthe new york times . [applause] so again, your question is how do we hold them accountable? nothing ever happens to these people. you're lookingat an organization that does hold

them accountable . we do things but then they hit hard. it's a championship prize fight, they knocked me down what's important is we get back up . and we don't stop so this new york times lawsuit involves an article written about us, this article was in september 2020 and the headline was project veritas releases misleading video, part of what experts call a coordinateddisinformation campaign . i don't know who these experts are. this is what they do. rather than address the evidence they just call up some professor at stanford or wherever and then professor says , what it does disinformation even mean? does that mean the evidence is not true? it'shard to know . >> it's certainly looks like evidence of voter fraud to me .

there's even one tape where people say where's the voter fraud, you're looking at voter fraud. it's an anecdotal piece of voter fraud but it is in fact a criminal act you're looking at in many minneapolis where this was recorded. and in this recording you see it in the act. you see a voter or a valid harvester rather give money to a voter in exchange for a ballot. that's a federal felony. okay. so there is indeed fraud, obviously there's going to be fraud in various places and we released this and the new york times attacks me as a distantdisinformation expert ? so it's definitely hard to digest and one of the things they wrote in this article was project veritas making claims without evidence. i haven't made any claims. i'm making no claims. i'm showing you a video

recording of an interaction between twopeople . but this is what they do. they write these and you say why is this, this is what they do. and as a result of this, new york times article, as a result of this article facebook band the video i just showed you. because facebook uses the new york times as theirfact checkers . and the circle of propaganda is complete. so what do you do about it? you sue the new yorktimes and we scored a victory against them . [applause] and this is a recording, these are the words from the judge and the supreme court state of new york saying that it was the new york times that engaged in disinformation and deception.

listen to this. >> the articles that are the subject of this action called the video quote, deceptive . but the dictionary definitions of disinformation and deceptive provided by defendant's counsel certainly apply to the failure to note that they injected their opinions in news articles as they now claim. >> they injected their opinion in a news article and that opinion was used, they claim it's an opinion.we sued them for defamation but facebook is banning the video based on an opinion? think about that. that's precisely the very disinformation and misinformation there projecting onto me. so wehave to do something and here's another clip, this is on christmas eve . the judge ruled against the new york times, somehow they got access to my attorney clientprivilege documents after the fbi raid they published those documents .

these are the documents written by the attorney representing me in the lawsuit against the new york times. this is dystopian, this is orwellian. it's real life and the judge saying that the new york times, they should not be publishing these attorney clientprivilege documents . >> project veritas versus the new york times company. i'm cognizantof the fact that there are basically two bedrock principles of our republic at issue . certainly freedom of speech and freedom of the press and the attorney-client privilege are two significant bedrock that nobody in this country would want to live without . >> your offer correctly pointed out that we acknowledge up front there are two fundamental bedrock principles of our republic i believe was the language your underused that are clashing here. >> that would be the first timeyou quoted me right , thank you.

>> it's pretty cool to see the judge go after the new york times. the new york times has never pulled a column in their lives. they think they're god. i think it was dean of the new york times that saidwe don't get religion . they're even more powerful than governments, nothing holds them accountable but we are. this and to the judge in the case. >> both sides are media organizations. the times is claiming that it has a different status as a newsorganization . >> the law applies equally to all people involved so project veritas will be deposing new york times reporters on video asking them questions and releasing thosedeposition videos though the world can see . speaking of deposition videos, i've been deposed many times. by the way, i like being deposed, you know why? because i got nothing to hide .

i don't release names of our sources, that's a first amendment right but everything else is pretty much fair game in a lawsuit and by the way,project veritas has never lost a lawsuit, not one . that's because we're ethical. but they are not ethical and by the way, they don't like being deposed. they hate being deposed. i think when they started suing me and they sued me a lot 10 years ago, they were betting on the fact that i would settle the lawsuit and give up, but they quickly realized in the discovery and the discovery part of a lawsuit you can depose them. that's an under oath deposition for 10, 12 hours sometimes. where your cross-examined and when they're cross-examining, this woman worked within the 2016 election on behalf of hillary clinton and we did a

story about what they were doing. they sued us thinking that i would back down. but we eventually won that lawsuit but in the discovery part, it was fascinating to see how they conduct themselves and now you will see in a way that words cannot explain just how devastating a videotaped deposition can be against our adversaries. >>. [inaudible] did you hear the statement having been to the bar? who said that. >> that was me. >> did you eventually published a video? >> i published a video of the events that occurredearlier that evening . >> so you edited out these parts where these first two parts where you and ryan

clayton were confronting this model. >> you're not a lawyer so your lawyer is here and he will object for you so what i'm asking you. >> i disagree with your characterization of my actions. >> which part. >> that i edited anything out . >> so what did you do that didn't make the video? >> it's called editing. >> yeah. now do you understand the importance of videotaped deposition? you start to see the sociology, you start to see the doublethink, george orwell described it as odublethink to change your mind and the moment. this is your new york times, your hillary clinton

operatives, it's all the same. it's literally, i'm not a psychologist so i'm not qualified to say this but some have described as psychopaths and i'm just showing you. we intend to depose more people and really our mission is about illumination. it's about, i love this picture because it describes our vision for the future. everyone wants to know what's next and this is what's next, you're looking at what's next . brief people regular honest people working in societies and institutions that expose what's going onand it's going to require sacrifice. that's the problem you're all going to happen with this . dennis rager says it better than i can. there are three things you can do. number one, you cando something . number two, you can donate to people who do something. where a registered 501 c3

tax-exempt nonprofit charitable organization or number three, you can do nothing. now, that's not a condemnation if you do nothing. if you want to raise your kids and pay your mortgage and live your life, that's fine but you know what to do . the question is do youhave the will to do it ? are you willing to face the sacrifice, the comfortability . are you willing to be uncomfortable? are you willing to have federal agents harass you? that's probably going to happen again. but if you keep going, if you get back up, if you do what my mentor andrew breitbart described as run towards the fire you'll send a message to other people watching you , rooting for you that they can do it to. and that's how we can solve the problems in oursociety. that's how we can bring

consensus. that's how we can do it . it comes through information and it comes through revelation. it comes through veritas. iq. [applause] >> i think they wanted to do a couple of questions, isthat correct ? you pick who you want to ask the question. so many questions. i hope i answered all the questions. they can pray.

faith without works is dead. thank you, we do need and we appreciate very much your prayers. >> have they released the documents yet in connection with the ashley biden diary? >> someone else published it. some other organization.access to this document and did publish it online and it didn't really cause and impact . do i have bodyguards, i'm not going to disclose my security protocol because that would defeat the purpose . >> when did you realize these people were just democrats with the media when you realize they're evil, like they would killyou when you said you would never attempt suicide ? it took me a while to realize this is not political. >> when did i realize it was about bad people? i was very young.

it's an evolution obviously. your raised to pledge allegiance to the flag and you believe in these principles and we all do believe in these principles. everyone except for two percent which is really extreme but everyone grows up and e pluribus unum and equality before the law. these are great and radical and very american things. i was probably a teenager and i was a big consumer of newspapers as a teenager. especially when i entered college, i would read the newspaper every day and read the new york times every day and the star-ledger and the usa today. some of these papers most no longer exists, by the way. maybe, i shall of themselves but i read all that and i wanted to do something. i wanted to expose what was going on because i could see just by consuming the news as a young person that things were not as they seemed and

rarely as they should be. i didn't know what to do about it but in the beginning i started a newspaper in my college and i tried to confront professors. first video i ever did was ban lucky charms because their racist against irish people. it was like a form of satire but that was the first hidden camera thing i did i was trying to expose the mentality. that was the first video. another question. yes. >> something popped up on my email that you have exposed the wrong vaccination being given to children. is that something you're going to cover down the road? >> with all the stories it's just constant. the price of liberty is

eternal vigilance.you just keep going. we booked that story in staten island new york a nurse had recordings of her colleagues saying they were injectingchildren in new york city . homeless and impoverished children. they were injecting the children with the wrong vaccine . they're mixing the covid vaccine with bacteriostatic water but itwas incompetent , it was, new york city has been given billions of dollars to administer the vaccine to all these kids and it was just, these people are not qualified to give the vaccine so these recordings showed statements they were doing this and she went public and she's a brave person i speak about and she will inspire other people to go public as well,yes . >> great speech. your speaking about people coming forward and being

brave and so my son is a political commentary, he's 22. gen z. gavin mcinnis wants to give him a program and all that so last week he's been exposed and according to the fbi , he was defamed as russian operative and we're waiting upon ourimmigration . 4000 people have attacked him. he's on every social platform. so i'm a single mom so we're doing everything we can to protect them . and elijah schaefer, they're all coming to his side. but this is the thing is as soon as they see these up-and-coming kind of young conservative speakers, there out for them. and they, with everything now. so as far as we can see they reported him to the fbi,

hotline for something and so there on his radar. so i want to launch a defamation suit so i'm in the process. he's a ghost so we get it but it's like john doyle, look what they did to him. no-fly list, rated his bank account so how do we get these young people to continue on? this is his life. his son is going into law. >> how do we deal with the intimidation and the attacks? i think you just keep going. you're asking me a psychological question. how do you keep going? you're talking to a person who's speaking personally. i don't know some of the names you mentioned but i was incarcerated. and i had every reason to give up. i wrote three books.

the latest one which i encourage you to read, read the first chapter of the book and then we'll talk because a colleague of mine was rated by kamala harris's office, the guy for exposed 80 parts videos, remember those? the state government took his hard drives. did not stop him. you just keep going. i know that sounds like a simple answer but it's true. the only one that can actually stop you is you stopping. >> he's 22 less gullible than the boomers as far as i'm concerned. i was 24. 25, when what happened in new orleans. and i think good parenting, good motivation but it's not easy but tell him to get back

up and keep going. keep reporting if he has the truth to tell and if someone's willing to listen. litigation is not easy, it's expensive. that's another issue. i've been saying this on my talks. they do have a lot of power. and we are nothing. but we are not alone. so keep going. [applause] one more? one more question and then we will call it. >>. [inaudible]. i'm not familiar withthat, i'll have to look into that .

not familiar but will look into it. it will take a look at what that is. alright. thank you all, iappreciate it . [applause] >> american history tv saturday on c-span2 exploring the people and events that tell the american story. at 8:50 p.m. eastern mark clay, professor of musicology and american culture at the university of michigan recounts the history of the star-spangled banner and how its meaning has evolved at 10 pm eastern author and professor with trees donaldson reports on how black soldiers between the civil war and world war i use their military service to further civil rights. exploring the american story.

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