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lower income students access to affordable internet so homework can just be homework. cox connect to compete. >> cocked one of these television companies support cspan2 as a public service. >> representative it's great to see if it. >> great to see you please call me at will. comforting but your book american rebate and idealist guide to getting big things done. why did you write this book? >> i wrote this book, i did the guardsmen write the book. as someone approached me an agent and asked if he ever thought about writing a book and i said no. [laughter] he said if you were going to write about what would it be about? and i thought when i was in congress the things i tried to talk about were the things i thought were important in order for the country to move forward and evolve. that is not always the things that were reflected in social media or in cable news. so when i thought concept is

what i consider to be five generational defining challenges that are going to prevent america from being the leader of the rest the century. that was the framework of how i came up with the idea. and ultimately asserted putting pen to paper because 72% of the country thanks the country is on the wrong track. this is a number that has been growing over the years. we cannot sustain the path we are on. and we have to do something different. i start the book out the chapters called get off the edge. that the second lesson you learn after super secret yet a training facility, the farm, where i was eight-member. i so called super secret notes on google maps.an i wish that was a joke it really truly is on google maps. thank you to get off the x for

the x is a location or something is going down for the last place you want to be when something is going down is where it is going down. so move. we are at a moment that's within our control to change. and we have to change if youal want to make sure we continue to exist. >> let's talk a little bit about you and converts. a republican rep is in the 23rd congressional district of texas. massive district stretching from san antonio down to the border. >> a black republican in the latino district it's okay, it's okay. [laughter] >> the massive space along the texas mexico border. they talk about vegas what happens in vegas stays in vegas. what happens on the border doesn't stay on the board it impacts the rest of the country. you are the representative for

the biggest part of that border. so what do we make of that? >> what is happening right now is indeed a crisis for the crisis on the border is the worst it has ever been. it is going to have teutonic impacts on our elections. when you are on the border, border security actually means a public safety. eswhen you think about that mays in the county judges in that city council members that had to deal with the last two years i am not just talking about the illegal immigration crisis. i'm talking dealing with covid and those along the border 50% of their income, comes from taxes of legal immigration coming across the board that shut down for your and a half. those cities basically had to cut half their budgets. they're doing with covid like everyone else's dealing with and on top of that they were dealing

with the growing illegal immigration crisis. all those things for this is the powder keg we are w s seeing. what should we do about it? eight and 25 miles of the border is well represented. that's 2000 miles between the united states and mexico. i spent non- years and the undercover officer and cia my day job may or may not of been stamping pieces in somee locations. i may or may not have had to travel in alias and violate other country's borders. and so i may or may not have a unique perspective. [laughter] on these issues. and so step one, stop treating everyone that comes across the border as an asylum secret.

gum up the system. now this is been continued under president biden but why do i say that? asylumr is a very specific thin. you have to be a member of a protected class. usuallyl gender, sexual preference, your following a specific religion pretty have to be part of a protected class and your government has to be persecuted you because you are part of that protected class. or your government is not protecting you from someone who is persecuting you as part of that protected class. coming here just because yous want a better paying job is not a reason for asylum puts a stop treating everyone as if they were in asylum-seekers, .1. point to, we have to dismantle the human smuggling networkser throughout central and south

america that are moving people here to the united states. omit is hard there is a lot of infrastructure. there are payment system, buses get you from point a to point b. there's halfway houses you get to stay. weos have a lot of that information we should be working with our partners to dismantle it. that is point to. .3, how about we streamline legal immigration. every industry requires people so it let's streamline legal immigration and then address the root causes in those areas. those of the four steps we can do concurrently to address this. something i've been advocating forgr long time and it's actualy the longest chapter in the book because of the importance of this to our country. >> only talk about a border

crisis, and i've spent a lot of time on the border. many years working on the border, living on the border in mexico living in mexico and covering these issues. i wonder is it because we can't take everyone in the country and i know what you are saying that everyone should be treated as asylum. but we have laws in place that when someone approaches and says gi want asylum they get a certn amount of treatment from immigration system. in that system that is in place right now under law cannot be turned off and on at will. we have to deal the system that is in place right now that's a buckling under thew strain. but progress has been reluctant to address those issues. if it did not disagree any of that. the one point i might push back slightly on his current statue allows for flexibility of an individual border patrol agent to make an assessment just likee an officer in an embassy that ie

having someone come income go through try to get1 up b1 -- should be to be separate is an incredible level of responsibility from the individual to make that call. the current statute gives that flexibility to border patrol agents. dhs is an organization has interpreted that ability in a very narrow way. and so right now, as things are written the idea of stop treating everyone as in asylum-seekers can be done without additional legislation. it would require dhs to change how they implement the language of that legislation. so as we speak a mandate would have been the date title 42 would have been lifted. that was a rule, a law put in place by the trump

administration. that was supposed to prevent people from seeking asylum at the border due to concerns about covid-19. now, covid-19 we are kind past covid-19 pretty much. and people are saying okay, lifted title 42 because it was a culvert restriction. but we have people on the right side said no, keep it in place for these are the same people that say you don't have to wear a mask on an airplane and covid was a hoax and these other things. so his title 42 about immigration? is it about covid? is it disingenuous to try to use it as a way to keep people from coming into the country and seeking asylum? >> and most people are viewing this as a way, another tool to prevent illegal immigration from coming into the country. dhs's own projections that if title 42 is removed we could

potentially have 40000 people a month coming to a border illegally but this is their projection not my projection. to give some context, the first year of donald trump he deported for the entire year 200,000 people. that influx would have been pretty significant and pretty serious. one things i get frustrated on this entiree immigration issue s that lack of ideological consistency on both sides off this. one of the things i was most frustrated within congress was not getting a solution for dr. kagan for dreamers the kids that have only known the united states of america as their own. a couple of us renegade republicans are trying to gm republican leadership at the time. we came in essence two votes away from pulling something off or we would have been able to

introduce legislation that wouldn't have gotten over north of 250 votes it likely would have passed the senate as well. it was a bill that would've been signed into law by donald trump. it was to me was so frustrating. but guess what, that same bill is on a table somewhere in the current leadership of congress could bring them forward and you would be able to get a super majority in order to pass that. this is one of those issues that when you look at around 70% of voters believed we should be solving some of these problems are 70% of republican primary voters t support things like permanent legislative fix for docket kids, men and women excuse me. instead nothing happens because people would rather use this issue as a political bludgeon against each other rather than

going to try to solve a problem. >> too that point about the political aspects of this, looking at this as a republican or democrat migration issue do you see that as a loser issue for democrats frequently that this is more to unite the right against them than actually accomplish anything? >> it is going to be something that's going to be used against democrats in the upcoming election. if you look at the border of texas, five members of congress represent the border. i was the only republican of those five. my successor is the only trepublican now. there is a scenario in which three of those five seats are going to be represented by republicans after this next election. and it goes back to the fact that you have a democratic of mayors and elected officials

along the border that are tired of the lack of anything getting done. it started with deep on the ice. then comedian democrat does not believe and defend ice. because of the far left wing talking about that the entire party gets painted with that. just like the median democrat does not believe in gay from the police. the fact there's enough people in the far left doing this if crime and other issues. all of these things are at play in the elections coming up in november. you are going to see especially in south and west texas if not record, near record latino turnout for republican candidates in areas that most people would not expect it. it goes with not solving an issue that could be solvable. >> we have seen this it's called the red shift on the border we

are seeing counties that have been solid blue making huge transitions to support the republican party in the last election. one of the issues was immigration. the issue was support the law enforcement the other was an issue for concerns about how the greening of our energy economy would take away the few jobs they have in these areas. that a good thing that people are voting this way? is voting for republicans going to help these people because others see it it's not in their best interest. >> here's the thing i learned when i was in congress. nobody thought a blacker problem could win a 71% latino district. my strategy was simple. i was going to be everywhere 29 counties two time zones, 185 miles of the board sixth and

half hours drive across it 80 miles an hour which is a speed limit most of the districts. but answer there and beyond the it's not the speed limit and all the districts. [laughter] sorry ladies. a third of the district does not have cell phone service. i would go everywhere. whether colonialists of el paso or the dominion here in san antonio. i was everywhere. we have to shut up listen to what people are talking about find out everybody talks about the same things for they care about putting food on the table, putting a roof over their head make sure the people they love are healthy, happy anden safe. when you talk about this issue shouldn't be successful successful. let's talk about energy policy. you articulate asic the greening policy, most people the number

let's call it fortyish. the% of people in south and west texas are somehow connected to the energy sector forget the permian basin and wested texas, shelton south texas. ihto them this is about their livelihood and getting rid of their livelihood. these are folks trying to impact me. me talk about defend the police or defendant law enforcement, a number of people in south and west texas that have a family member working for border patrol, the sheriff's office, local pd that is a large group of people.ir it is an assault on their ability to provide for themselves. here is what is going to happen. it is almost accepted it is accepted that republicans are taking the house back in 22. if we had to vote today some would say likely the senate as well.go this is not a mandate from the

american people be like a common gop we love you. [laughter] for those that are watching on tv everybody laughed here. this saying we don't like with these other folks are trying to do. so if republicans come in and w don't have a vision of how were going to solve some these problems. if we only talk about the things we are against, all the proms are doing is written on country being blamed on joe biden in the democratic party is going to be blamed on the republican party. so we have to have a vision on what are we going to try to solve? it starts with having elected leaders that are willing to inspire incentive fear mongering. we are going through here in texas we are going through a primary runoff election. in the primary that was early in march 300, 0000 people voted. 1.8 million republicans.

one point to million democrats. 3 million people out of 30 million. that is terrible. we're going to runoff election excuse me a runoff for the prime rate right now. maybe on the republican side one of 750,000 people out. which means three and 75000 people are probably going to decide a lot of our statewide elected officials because it is texas and that's what's going to happen a general election. we need more people that are inspiring people to come out to vote. the first arm when i was at congress i spoke at sxsw the music movie and technology conference in austin. i am on a panel with a number of youtube stars. four of the other panelists combined had 1 billion youtube subscribers, i had 64.

[laughter] and i see seven of those people here in the crowd right now. one ofig the people that was the it was the director for the rock. dwayne johnson. this is when the movie the one i was coming out. and she said, milano fails at the box office are we going to blame the consumer, the moviegoer or are weam going to blame the product the movie questioning of course were going to blame thein product themo mo. that was very delightful movie and i think it had success at the box office. but she went on to state politics is the only industry where we blame the consumer, the voter rather than the products, the politician. [applause] and so think the future, the opportunity is for people to do things a little bit differently

and inspire rather than fear mongering and that's why i wrote this book. [applause] 's view of the real estate we have in america is the kitchen table of every home in america. that is where we are seeing prices are going up. when i was a kid i did my homework at theom kitchen table. we had family meetings talking about good news, we got some bad news at all cleansing of the kitchen table. everything happened at the kitchen table. what are we doing to make the kitchen table a happy place? >> that's going to be the big question. and so for me i talk about my kitchen table with my parents. my dad is black, my mom is white. they met in l.a. i got married, moved to san antonio in 1970 look to buy house 1971. my father was a traveling

salesman. it was not invoked to be an interracial couple in south texas in the 70s. and so seeing some the thingsit they did, my parents had the same house the last 54 years. it was the only neighborhood in san antonio that would sell to an interracial couple. which meant that neighborhood in the schools that service that neighborhood and the only schools my brother, sister and i were able to go too. now i turned out okay, i'm a proud john marshall ramp. proud eggy. and so for me, seeing that growing up on the opportunity for my dad, my mom started business when he retired for my sister to go and become a

partner in an engineering firm, for me too get exposed to robotics and want me too be computer scientists, we were lucky to have those opportunities. we need to be making sure we are providing the best opportunities we can and it starts with education. and i believe it's not getting a lot of focus but we are looking at the decrease in the number of kids in school across the united states, what dhec? where are they? what are they doing? what is happening? thisis is important. with income inequality because of education inequality. and i think this is one of the things we need to focus on. these are some the stories i talk about in the book. the reality is we have to be preparing our kids for jobs that do not exist today for the technological change we are

going to see in the next 47 years is going to make the last 47 years look like we are monkeys playing in the dirt with sticks. and anything bioengineering, we can program dna that will be program computer code. on the board of a company when algorithms can be smarter than most people. this is going to happen. we have to make sure we have a workforce that is prepared for that and people currently in the workforce and got to make sure they're ready for that. those issues is what's going to drive those conversations on the kitchen table. seniors who thought that squirreled away and enough money in their retirement account are having a hard go right now looking at the retirement account showing. how are you making sure american businesses those 401ks are invested and are going to continue to be strong? this is not just about us

achieving our best selves but we are in a new cold war the chinese government. this is not my opinion. this ofth the chinese government is said about themselves for their trying to surpass the united states of america is a global superpower. one of the feedback i'm getting on the book a lot of people did not understand that. you're like a the things you talk about china and technology in the book is kind of scary. i said that's just the tip of the iceberg. this is what we have to be ready for. this is why we have to b get beyond some of these political food fights that are not solving the major issues. the reason we've been able to move up the economic ladder is because we created we've given educational opportunities for people to do that. and when we fail that were going to fail the country. trucks watchingit what's happeng

in the ukraine, it is incredible the videos we are getting out of combat and seeing how the war has been fought and how war has been redefined. onee thing that is freaking me out are these drones is her high level consumer drones that have been modified to drop munitions, bombs on russians, their tanks and blowing them up. what is to stop anyone in the united states from modifying drones that you can buy at best buy and turning that into a weapon and attacking a church, a supermarket of times square? >> i'm not trying to freak everybody out, but nothing. his preventing that from happening. that is by the have to be thinking through. not only drone technology. going to be awesome. drone in my driverless car and a

drone drops the whataburger through my center? this would be awesome. i am ready to make that happen. every tool that's used for good can be used for bad. we need to be think of the strategies. if anybody was to get freaked out when you're scrolling on your phonerc search for swarming drones. it's like these are drones that operate and they use ai. they look like birds. if you're late at night the birds are going how are w they moving that way you get drones to be able to do that. but it's not just that. a covid-19 was that design in the lab? i do not know we are not going to know. but covid 47 may be in it will be designed in a lab. and it's going to be designed to

have a greater impact on people in north america face under dna sequences. we can do that, that technology exist today. but in ukraine what is happening this is why with the russians were doing in sierra, the russians were using some of the latest drone and autonomous technology in sierra in order to perfect it to use it for other warfare. we have seen some tactics techniques and procedures. we see that now in the ukraine. the future of conflicts is going to be driven a lot by technology. and a lot of that technology, a lot of it works because space is as important as to what's happening on the ground as the ground is. all these things are connected. we have got to remember the united states of america we have

had an edge and we became a superpower because we had an edge in advanced technology since the end of world war ii. that edge is decreasing. and if we ever get to the point where we are on the losing end that is what is going to a road or hard power. >> you are talking about an american or reboot in your book. but people are one if you're actually talking about a republican party reboot? and whatd would it take to actually hit that all control delete on the republican party and is that going to be the loss of elections? >> unfortunately i think most people learn major lessons from the lot rather than the game. so the first section of the book is about how the republican party does not look like america. and that the republican party start looking like america.

and i outlined why that matters but republicans should care, democrats should care, independent should care p people who don't vote should care because it's important to have two strong parties in order to have a competition of ideas. so i do believe there needs to be a reboot of the republican ngparty. and it starts by giving back to being a party based on her values. that formula for the gop has always been simple. it has been opportunity excuse me freedom leads to opportunity. opportunity leads to growth. we talk about those issues theno we can have some success. and what is it going to take? it's going take take i can make an argument losing 63 feet was it 2018 should have been a wake-up call, right? it didn't.

it's also an opportunity for the system can be shocked from the outside because the opportunity of getting new voters into a primary is very significant. >> there american dream what is the status of the american dream? >> look. i think the american dream is still bright and it is helpful. american dream is different things for different a people. the fact that a young kid from the north side of san antonio who had a big head, size 13 shoe in his the fifthth grade, speech impediment, messed up teeth and last name rhymes with a nerd you all should not laugh at that. [laughter] to be able to be an undercover officer the cia and work in the

back alleys of dangerous places to start a cybersecurity company who broken their banks and stole money to represent his hometown in congress. that is awesome some of the few places that can happen. in one of the values for me having lived overseas when i was in the cia is seeing other people's views on our country. the opportunity that you can do anything does not exist in other places. one of the things i learned researching this book america's power is in our values. and the value we talk in the last 240 years as a government legitimacy and its ability tofr exercise the power of the states flows from the consent of the

government. we the people are sovereign, not the governments. that is ahy novel idea. it only everyone's like this is ban experiment it had been 1800 years for the last democracy and julius caesar screwed that up. [laughter] it was another 60 years until there is another democracy on the planet, switzerland. only 14 other countries that have ever been and democracy. that isit all we have ever know. democracy is fragile it always has been fragile and always will be fragile. it is our system of government we have shown the world that has allowed so many people to move up the economic ladder. i am proud of that, i'm excited about that is as real today as it ever has been.

>> questions from the floor, from our audience real quickly so what happens her and her six. >> was an insurrection. and it waspa propagated by peope that were feeding lies. simple. b[applause] >> questions from the audience? anybody have any questions you want to make customer we got a microphone will bring it over to you soon get that captured for everyone here. >> already. >> in addition to the two things you said politicians a product is the third elements of the republican propaganda. defunding the police, the police only spent 5% of time solving crimes obvious and there needs a term for social services for the other things they do. but for instance when aoc did

the green new deal the republicans turn that into a curse word. i'm just going to propose a ridiculous ideal solution, the federal taxes of new york, w oregon, washington and california actually support the group public gerrymandered states of the south, note rich people pay taxes actually designated what they won their taxes for and said not the military and not creationism. and then it's always a follow the money they might change. >> what is your question? [laughter] >> is there any way to get reason back in politics? and also i'm legally old enough to vote by mail and they have made it so impossible that almost all of the mailers have been discarded because they did not fill out a number.

quickset is a texas issue. that's what happened with greg abbott and the texas legislature voted by mail. but to her other points? >> so could we get reasonable stuff in? yes but guess what show of hands how many of you all have ever clicked on a news article that said congress worked? [laughter] for those in the viewing audience we have one hand. so part of this is we have to model behavior that we want to see. there's some crazy politicians? absolutely. but there are some that are not. >> on both sides. >> tboth sides for sure. are w we promoting and encouragg the kind of behavior we want to see? or are we promoting and encouraging the negative behavior we are partaking in this? that is us as individuals and as voters but as elected officials

again, if you are selling a product, yes you want to make sure the people buying your product are still buying that product. but he also beat should be trying too but get new people to buy that product. there is this notion that has come into our political discourse for the last 30 years that the only way to get big things done is through one party rule. that's actually the worst way to get anything done. any piece of legislation that we can name the civil rights act that voting rights act the clean water act, every student succeeds act the first step act, you name all of these bills they were passed one party in the house a different party in the senate. one party rule is not the way to governn. we need more people voting in primaries because that is where

a lot of these decisions are being made. biometric bond yes we should make registering to vote as easy as possible. we should be ableo to do that same day pretty should be able to do it online right? i'm inn shock when you look is n the selection from the country that decided by, 31%? it is not reflective of anything. and so being able to do those things. yes we should be able to do that and this day and age we should be make b it easier. we should build to do it by mail, we should be able to do it online should be able to do all of these things. roy to get a mic to serve. awesome thank you. >> you had mentioned there was a strength in a two-party system. but as it becomes more leftri ad more rights, do you see ao

centrist party developing like in europe? >> the idea of an independent party or a third party, i think a third party could win in the united states of america. i think the model is france and mexico. but the eye have about a third party system is over time does that lead to better outcomes? does that lead to a country solving bigger problems? i don't know if coalition politics like you see in the uk and israel is better than the system we have now. but what i think could happen, everyone says 60 votes in the senate. here's a novel idea, forget the far left ten and fined 20 on the other side. they exist. t it is possible. exist in the house, it exists in the senate.

what happens is when leadership in washington d.c.ri and what i mean by leadership that's the majority leader of the senate or the speaker in the house. they drive all legislate. nrather than having committees actually driving out real people from both sides working to craft legislation that can get past. if we only think nancy pelosi as bad as if she works with 20 republicans on a piece of legislation, her far left wing is going to eviscerate her. the far right did that to johnn weiner and paul ryan when they work with democrats in order to pass legislation. that is a trend that is solvable and more likely to have better outcomes than potentially a third party. but, like i said a third party is doable it's a logistical challenge at the national level and the united states but i would love to see some more

about the longer-term impacts are. >> so will hurd a former congressman is there a future? used to be the future of the republican party are you still the future? >> you don't have to be in elected office to be the future. >> in elected future questioner cuts here's what i would say it's only like likely my political career is over i'm only m 44 years old with the opportunity to serve my country presents itself again, then i will evaluate it. i've been lucky to serve in an amazing job in the cia. it was awesome serving my hometown of san antonio and all of that community's in west and south texas. there's anor opportunity i will evaluate immigrants or some reporting this book was a feeler to see if there was a lane for will hurd running for the republican nomination for president, anything to that? >> could somebody use these ideas and run for president? i think so.

[laughter] >> tell me about it like too. [laughter] >> this is about vision process structure but we do not have enough people articulating where we want to go. and the reason i call this american reboot is because the lesson i learned in my first job working in a computer lab when the computer was not working, and i did know what you do? turn it off and you hit reboot. it's about getting back to fresh operating system. this is about getting back to the values and ideas it has made us the greatest country on the planet. i want to see this continue for the tune of 47 years. that is why put some these ideas out there. we do not have to accept this 72% of us feel that the countries on the wrong track and so i'm going to do something different. >> all right.

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