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trump administration and is now in the election transparency initiative and what is the election stress. the transparency measures be back is a good place to start, hit is a group reformed a little less than two years ago, to take advantage of the frankly the sudden interest on both sides of the aisle and election reform. having that a state legislature before i was virginia's attorney general, i can tell you that elections the state legislators are often a left behind is subject and only country, our election laws needing updated and pennsylvania for instance is still operating in 1837, election code, and there were sitting there election code that almost don't have any meaning to us today and in the last two years, we have been encouraging state legislatures to open up by

having transparency open up and the election systems in the citizens can see it and to end in everything except the voting and who you voted for and so forth because we believe that kind of transparency and openness,sp combined with basic common sense s security, is anybody, winner or loser confidence in the outcome of an election and that is how we measure success is by systems that are so open and transparent and reliable, the citizens on all sides can have confidence in the outcome of their election and we saw that being shaken in 2020, often by state officials who want to bring their own laws and you don't pass laws to say we obey the past also be passive there is an element of reliability there and confidence we've not seen this kind of attention to election systems since inte gori florida in 2000,

annual remember and florida to his credit senate offer years, cleaning up his elections and frankly firing some people whoey were not doing a good job and they made major improvements in one result was that in a rough year for election, 2020, florida, the third largest and the largest swing state was done counting his elections reliablyo complaints from either side on election night which if you look over the country, then i went to the two, turned out to be a pretty impressive feat and so that is our goal of the election transparency initiative and we work with it is a sum of also last year making efforts to make sure the washington did not just frankly take over elections from the states, we believe that each state running his own elections systems is a form of security itself ands i can tell you that for my days in the department of homeless security it is much more difficult for foreign

interlopers and we had 51 systems rather than one. that threat seems to have abated correctly we continue to focus on reform in the and the bottom line, we are better off today than we were two years ago and that is on a bipartisan basis, and entirely the democrats states like new jersey, have passed transparency improvements. we seen bipartisanan legislation in pennsylvania, south carolina, virginia, kentucky and louisiana, and so this is one of those issues that are not used to be partisan and it would be great if we can get back to just conversations about what works best in our states and communities to run elections. >> you want to have a conversation, when lines are open and 220-2202 - independence (202)748-8002 until the end of the program today, it is

election transparency .org and his website youg can go to find out about the election transparency initiative, on the about page of that website, the first paragraph, election transparency initiatives quickly mobilizing organization with coalition partners and the efforts of radical washington democrats to override stimulation hr one and hr four, while simultaneously working at the state level to achieve info form in my the viewers what those are. >> sure these are so far political history, 2021 and hr one was the attempt to complete washington takeover of elections that we would have one set of emanating from washington for all states and they would be the same everywhere and they would heavily emphasize more of

the less secure forms of voting, mail for instance is less secure than in person voting, and is found in bipartisan commissions run by jimmy carter, 17 years ago. and more prone to prodding the states and also slower counting which creates its own problems. we also saw these are 100 sort of connect the dots and hr one, would have mandated the states don't all adults, say citizens, they avoided using the word citizens under the voter rolls from any of the databases, even mind that both legal and illegal aliens get drivers licenses, they attended school, they can public health services from their state that they live and end all of those who would've been put on the voter rolls and

they could've it without penalty under hr one would've eliminated effectively voter id laws which are nearly, every demographic, every party, republicans and democrats independents and libertarians vegetarians, black or white or asian hispanic, all in poll after poll after poll, despite the attacks on i it support common sense voter id. frankly even vice president harris into bt view last summer in the heat of the hr one debate, acknowledge that you have to be able to identify who you are to vote in a secure system. as we go and from washington bill had no matter what the subject, americans tend to take to find to washington to take state hundred takeover whether state is been trying to do since 1789. >> colors, any's first out of

ohio independence good morning. >> good morning and it seems to me like to add to your insert looking for a problem and everything that i see on this voting is so minute you know it is always the republicans down in florida acting - placing them yelling you know and if the republicans assignment got upset about its republicans this time trying to save will there's been involved in the election to get in here soo that that happens again we can say, and you think when the first half of this country come you didn't have to be aiz citizenship we had to bea white landowner so i know i just will thank you. >> well, painfully we have grown we past just white landowner, 240 years ago, and america again the declaration of intimate is

that martin luther king said that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator and inalienable rights life be the pursuit of happiness and we have never been perfect about achieving that goal but is still goala and part of this debate is about getting in the phrase that we use all of the is it's easy to devoted hard to cheat and easy to build and hard to cheat, and is important for the people to remember is a former attorney general i can tell you that once a bad ballot goes into the ballot box, you cannot take it out you don't know which ballot is yours mine and so even if you identify problem after the fact, and the only solution is if there's enough that balance in that particular election, to ask the judge, quite an enormous undertaking to try to do twice as hard enough once and so it's

important we secure our elections on the front and the clean voter rolls in with people having to identify themselves and obviously everybody gets to vote once and only once and we want to make sure that everyone's vote is counted. and it does not seem like too much to ask and the color was drilling in the republicans and certainly you've heard from the republicans in the last two years but i would say that our modern over the elections really dates back to 2000, and in all of the presidential elections in 2000, and in 2004, and in 2016, it was the democrats who were complaining nationally including the people who now say that such complaints are somehow bad like grass getting congress in january 6ki committee, that were complaining objecting to electors and now all of a sudden, the same complaints from the other side are a basis for

judgment by those folks. i think that it would be nice to be evident said so that partisanship aside as i said early on, you get 100 americans in the room, about 75 percent of what it takes to run a good election and i think it would be great if we could get back there in the way that we will get back there is the kind of transparency that reemphasizes the election transparency initiative transparency so that citizens can see in every step of every election, and in every state, every step except you voting on the ballot in terms of problems, and a mention 2020, one of the big problems was state officials not following their own law. this was rampant and we could point to examples in wisconsin michigan pennsylvania and arizona, it was all over the country and covid-19 was the excuse that is not a reason not to follow the rules of fairness

and ask a toddler, that fairness is not changing the rules in the middle everybody is playing by the same set of rules. in america we call the due process and that is what was somewhat lacking in 2020, and i think that we are going to be back to that in the 2022 elections and is assent i think there's been improvements in transparency and security middle of the country and often on a bipartisan basis. there is good reason to think that election system will be better in 2022 than in 2020, but there's a lot of work yet to do. >> less than ten minutes, before the end of our program and reviewers who are withra us on c-span, after the program is over and the senate judiciary, hearing their on data security featuring twitter, executive whistleblower and you see the room there, the reporters are starting together and that's where we will go after the program but until that, your

questions with ken, ofaf the election transparency initiative and this is john and wisconsin, you are next and think you for waiting. >> thank you for taking my call any agree with what you just said and violating the laws and as far as mailing ballots and the elector and people filling out incomplete hand not reliable, will they didn't send it back their ballots and you people develop the man, corrected or illegally corrected it by the people in the state violating our law. i agree with you 100 percent of hr one and hr four, the systems are harder to hack in one centralized system and thank you very much for taking my call. >> john from wisconsin, yes,

just a comment so i said how important it was to secure elections in wisconsin's a good example in just a couple of months ago, and so a year and a half after the 2020 election, the wisconsin supreme court found that wisconsin use of drop boxes was completely violative of the law, complete violation of wisconsin law. there was no basis in law them to be used the way they were headed wisconsin across the state and there was a big difference in various jurisdictions and it's a good example because our courts are not equipped to quickly judge even criminal cases and even every potential fraud vote, know this is criminal as opposed to just making mistakes, which is much more common in elections, takes weeks and months to investigate and then to try it while you don't have time for that especially the presidential election when you have a meeting

for the electors, six weeks after the election date and so is a good example of the states own court system finding that their officials have been violating the law that was bipartisan was bipartisan in the republicans and the democrats vote involving that. in the violations of the law but it takes 18 months to do that it is so important to get these things right in the front end and so that when that election intima whether we win or lose, and of one and lost races, and when a loss, i didn't question the outcome and i may not have liked it but i did not question the n outcome because i had sufficient confidence in virginia system back then that it was easy enough to walk away knowing that we lost in a fair fight. >> mount vernon, new york, this is my for democrats, good morning. >> good morning and how are you.

trinity the question i have is i am trying to understand by formr president donald trump was not arrested he has committed the highest crime the nation called treason. and happens when you commit a crime against your government by trying to overturn an election has ceiling documents from the white house yet, he walks free and the punishment for treason,. >> is five years imprisonment and top level, is life imprisonment and death penalty. >> sure, so because i don't think there's evidence of treason, treason is you know, you can disagree with a man was a candidate for president and candidates are expected meeting our system is built to absorb election content.

did you go past the point and some people thought it should have been to become a wilshire it did, and that is the point of continuing debate as well. but as a candidate, he has the right to be sure the count and everything else was done properly in accordance to the rules we know that, i mean, i just give your wisconsin example we know there are states not following their own laws by their own judgment after the fact does not pretend pretend that donald trump was not angry at nothing, there was a lot for him to be upset about and does that mean that the election should've left, obviously we have a system in place to achiee those outcomes in the outcome produced was that joe biden was the president and he is today. we now have one of the things the blossom from that wasim the folks on conduct of elections in the execution of elections and getting them done right and to

do that, we do need more openness for the folks with your viewed by thene way, i love hearing there's mount vernon new york in addition to her mount vernon here in virginia and for those who were on the winning side, in this case the democrat cited joe biden side, you should which it is addressed a lot of openness in hisis sentencing the right to look at the stuff any idea should be open it all up so that the people convince themselves that the outcome was the s accurate one. ... best side to answer, which will you would consider unreasonable beliefs about the election, is to be more open about them. we have localities and states all around the country that are trying to bury this stuff. we have registers, city clerks

eddie clerks who are trying very hard not to answer questions. well why not? the only reason most people usually conclude that you do not want to answer a question is because you're afraid of the answer. whoth we elect and thus leading our country, our state and our community be that is the c starting point for governance of the people by the people. it is that expression of people in our elections. we do need to work for years to come in all the states above the quality of our voter rolls, to make sure people have to identify and only identify themselves not to overdo that. that's easy to vote hard to cheat idea we have election transparency.org. it's important to achieve all over the country. we seen we can achieve it.

board approved when things go badly, as they did in florida in 2000 they respond to correctly bridge their legislature -- mike they were mortified the utterly embarrassed how badly they had performed. their legislature turned for years to improving their system. and frankly to letting go people who were not doing the job well. the result was they had dramatically improved election functioning. they still acknowledged governor desantis has been pushing other reforms in florida successfully. they still acknowledge they have more to do. yet, the efforts they made from the 2000 election really did improve theirre system. >> were going to have to ended therapy. >> everybody else can do it too but we can all do appear. >> were going to have to edit there the senate hearing is getting underway. the senate hearing on the twitter whistleblower. a hearing before the senate judiciary committee. what to thank you for your time.

collected for yield to the ranking member with permission, we are going to listen to an audio clip. it's the last phone call that she shared with her son while he was jailed. a pretrial detainee was never convicted of any crime. i want to warn those who are tuned in across the country, that this is a disturbing clip. and while this audio plays, asked that we imagine how we might feel to be on either end of this call. please play the audio. >> okay listen, i have found out everything i can. i'm having lawyers, the sheriff and all of this to try to make it so i can come in there and

see you. i'm trying also to get you out of there. >> i need to go to the hospital. >> i know you are. i am doing everything i can to get you out. and so i can see you. hello? >> yes. >> they are doing everything they can. >> there seconds remaining. >> might feet are swollen it hurts. >> side note matthew, i love you matthew the going to cut us off. >> i love you too. i'm going to die in here. >> of the senate homeland security subcommittee hearing on uncounted deaths in u.s. prisons

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