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this is a meeting they said we need to get together let's get together the bali at that d20 meeting there and they decided to put the first meeting they've had face-to-face with one another in five years. and i think the world wanted them to meet. u.s./china relations are in a nosedive and folks wanted to pull out of that nosedive and stabilizeth. i think both countries want that as well it's very hard to do that though, meet face-to-face on my meetings which they have had five times that have not been enough. this was a chance to actually talk face-to-face for the first time in many f f years. >> send what message what was each side's goal? accident that one you sent a few messages. not want is they do this to open into open conflict with regard to taiwan printouts from the number one thing that they wanted to say.

the second though as they want to set firm lines about what their core interest were purcell that from both president biden and xi jinping. and lastly they wanted to establish some routine mechanism for communication. they announced they would be cabinet level communications across a range of topics and secretary blinken was going back to beijing right after. >> i want to such a flashpoint issue. a friendly handshake that went off this morning. >> will have to wait and see part is just a couple hours ago they were meeting. obviously the taiwanese are looking for u.s. support we do not want to overly antagonize the chinese to pushing ping tous do something that they would not want. the taiwanese also do not want

conflict either. and so probably they also might breathe a sigh oft relief. the president said that american policy on taiwan has not changed. it's going to support taiwan. it is absolutely required. they should, wait relatively satisfied with what happened in bali. >> that handshake happening a conversation ensuing. from the press conference with in just the last half hour telling reporters what he and president xi jinping talks about hears about a minute and half of that precooked suggests imagine an person when xi jinping of the people's republic of china. we had an open and candid conversation about our intentions. and our priorities. it was clear, he was clear and i was clear and will defend american interests, values and promote interest rates and stand up for thema international order

client work in lockstep with our allies and partners. we are going to compete vigorously but i'm not looking for conflict. i'm looking to manage his competition responsibly. and i want to make sure that every country abides by the international rules of the road. we discussedhe that. it is not changed. we opposed you not lateral change on either side. it is also clear china in the united states has something to work together where we can to solve global challenges require every nation to do its part. we discussed russia's aggression against ukraine, reaffirmed our shared belief and threat with the use of nuclear weapons is totally unacceptable. i ask he felt to china to follow-up on our discussion toen continue keeping the lines of communication open between our

two countries. >> a whole out there, what sticks out to you? >> it is clear most of the world recognizes the rest of the world is quite anxious. both in their opening statements and including the president biden just said. the world expects this such a conflictual relationship with open war. and there are areas where they do need to work together to solve transnational issues of public health, food security, climate, macroeconomic trends. the secretary of the treasurer sitting right next to him. but also both sides said they oppose the use ofth nuclear weaponsle under any circumstance but that's obviously directed at russia. they found some common ground on that specific element of the conflict for even on other aspects of it there are still

some significant differences. >> is our guest to the end of our program. we are talking president biden's meeting with chinese president xi jinping. now would berl a great time to call (202)748-8000 a zero for democrats (202)748-8001 for republicans. independence (202)748-8002. as folks are calling in and mention a senior advisor at the center for strategic and international studies. how long have you been sending china? how often do you make it to china these days? >> i first went there in 1988. i used to go there every year, many times in 2019 he would on eight trips to china and once the pandemic broke out i couldn't. i was meeting people on zoom. but i finally went to china last month in september for a seven week trip to beijing and met folks throughout the chinese government. business committees, scholars,

journalists. >> what you do when you're there? >> there is just trying to break the ice to reestablish communications with other scholars and people in the government. you lose a lot when you're talking online with people parts are talking face-to-face. in addition we are trying to promote increased communication and dialogue around common challenges including public health. looking to establish those types of relationship and that iski actually something president biden mentioned in his remarks in a meeting. >> one of the thing he mentioned in those remarks is what is the one china policy? >> america's one china policy is different from china's one china principle it says the u.s. recognizes china's position there is one in china t and tain as a of it. it takes no position and that in expects of both sides to resolve blthis problem, this dispute thy have peacefully, voluntarily

without coercion. that is the u.s. position. and also the u.s. wants to do what is necessary to make sure there is no conflict. >> why is that the position? >> civil war between communists in the kmt left taiwan and mainland china separated from the late 1940s. until the u.s. eventually switched diplomatic recognition. it was trying to win i the 1970s. overcoming that estrangement had the china on the compromise of taiwan. until they do that through ambiguity. they recognize the other side's position. but they did not necessarily accept it. and in the context of that in the past the taiwan relations act that committed the u.s. to

continue to provide defensive taiwan.for and maintain other relations. that's l where we spent the last 40 plus years.t >> on ambiguity what is strategic ambiguity? >> that approach suggests that in general the estimates to support taiwan if it faces some type of unprovoked attack. how it will do so, by what means ambiguous. that said over the past couple of years there definitely be there even though he's been a more clear he still left some ambiguity there that's was what he was trying to say in his remarks to present xi jinping and the public. >> how important you think the war in ukraine has been when it comes for the ongoing simmering

conflicts? >> it is been more significant they've got two sovereign countries, russia and ukraine for the one hand and of course the chinese don't think i want it should be a domestic issue they solve on their own. much of the world does not see. it quite in the same lights. i think given with the u.s. and europe has it done in ukraine it's given them a lot more because they need to be much more careful because the u.s. and others have come to a non- nato ally support in russia.st they have suggested they would do even more in the event of a taiwan scenario. that probably calm things down rather than propelling them to term fors in the short a quick summary on the phone for you already. cory, westminster colorado independent good morning. >> good morning, thank you for call. my

we need to put our cards on the table here. all of the global problems notwithstanding the war in ukraine but the worldwide recession was caused by the chinese and by president g. when the coronavirus was released upon the world. and joe biden should have putting his finger into xi jinping's chest telling him this is unacceptable. you are the reason things are going so badly and if you do something like this there will be dire consequences it. >> let's pick that up. the origins of the covered pandemic, the concerns the caller raises with the chinese government has said in response to some of those accusations? >> think the u.s. is never dropped that issue.

certainly and discussions presence probably brought this up. there are new pathogens as well as look toward the future that is the question in many aspects of the relationships by the rich unmet security issues, economic competition. yes, the chinese and bear a lote of the blame forr many of the problems. and they need to own up to that. at the same time worried about solving problems here and now

and going forward? i think that's the problem the president trying to deal with. >> rockville, maryland this is jon republican good morning. >> good morning. thank you to c-span. i just need to make a comment too. i do not know if anyone is thought about this angle or not. but i hold joe biden directly responsible for the war in ukraine. and if i can explain. when he shut down the keystone pipeline we could have provided natural gas for all of our european allies. all of this nonsense from russia would never have had happened. putin never would've stepped foot in ukraine if we had remained energy sufficient in this country. all our european allies are now going to freeze it's all over their media but it is not on ours. protestant all over europe right now, they are all screaming about lack of energy sufficiency. it was directly indirectly

because of one of biden's initiatives here. >> we are on the energy issue. let's take that to the asia-pacific region. an energy politics and diplomacy. >> short short. china is also a large importer of energy and fossil fuel, also large developer of green tech solar wind as well. and for everybody, energy security is a top issue. i do not know if that is something that came up today and their conversation? but the u.s. regardless even if you accept the caller's criticism, now that we are into this conflict the u.s. has been trying to work with europeans and others in asia, japan, others to find some way to make it so we do not get to that very

bad outcome the caller mentioned there is sufficient fuel. i would imagine going forward you are going to see a whole lot of creativity on capitol hill the president and others to try to find ways so we do not are as vulnerable as we are if there is some conflict. renewables is also important to all of the above energy strategy is to be critical whether he did was some conflict today and ukraine or some other issue down the road. >> one issue president biden said in his remarks to reporters that didn't come up today with human rights parade what are our biggest human rights concerns right now it comes to china? what is the status of the weaker people here in china? >> sure, sure. i think probably most folks have been heard about what's going on. and as well as in hong kong in

the passage of the national security law and the basic elimination of one country systems model to govern hong kong originally getting hong kong a lot ofth economy. that seems to have been just basically ripped away from hong kong. and more broadly speaking like camerass and ai folks to work r the local state on the ground. those are big human rights issues and china has moved we have seen president biden and secretary state blinken highlight our differences of ideology and the u.s. has tried to emphasize it is a strong advocate for democracy around the world. they push the chinese bilaterally and help mobilize

europe. >> when it comes mike came to china in september and october you drive around and you see cameras everywhere. they are ubiquitous. of course when you have to take tests phone scan to enter any buildings or use a taxi. your information is immediately shared with authorities. there is no disappearing in china now as a result of those things. even when they get to post pandemic era your phone and that information will still be used by the states. it is a lot different from the way it used to be. even though he had the same party holding a monopoly on power for the way to use tools you're using is different than

they were. >> alexandria, virginia stephen good morning. >> hi. i was wondering if the guest could give us some sort of insight into xi jinping's mind and calculus? i cannot imagine any leader on the world stage supporting or i should say severely condemning mr. putin has not done. is it just that he has access to a trading partner in particular cheap energy? or is it something else to possibly balance of power, you get a perspective on calculus with the ukrainian conflicts. >> i tried as people in china about that. i think this goes back to basic

politics, triangular diplomacy is a w popular topic during the cold war. you obviously disagree with the russian on a range of different issues. they form common bonds around that common criticism of the united states we see that in the february 4 joint declaration that they issued and in china's relatively weak criticism of russia and actually political support for what russia has done. i think that is even more important than the energy issue, that common political alignment with the russians. i think the chinese wonder now if they made a big mistake given what has happened in ukraine?

if you think about xi jinping he feels his responsibility is to save the communist party and hold itsol monopoly on power. when he came into power a decade ago there was corruption inside the party people in the liberation army was weak. when they saw the party crumbling in this are revolutions everywhere. instead of using a rule of law strengthening political institutions he went in a different direction. he sees his job as preserving the parties hold onto power. using any tools necessary. he is much less of a compromiser, conciliator than sssshis predecessors he's not interested in integrating into the international institutions pretty what's to reform those or revisehe those in ways that make the world safe for state capitalist authoritarian system. so it is a very big challenge. that is largely why the u.s.it d china are loggerheads the way

they are right now. >> it has been severaly weeks. reminded viewers what happened at the national party congress at the end of october and he is? >> in late october the china communist party held its 20th party congress. they hold these meetings every five years to reappoint our select leaders xi jinping got a third term in power. previous leaders before him his predecessor they served two terms and then retired. he did not, he stayed on. then overturn the table in the process of that in that meeting

and then others came over and it ways not voluntarily leaving. was slapping him in the face is not planned that way but read that way. >> have we seen him since? >> i do not know if we have seen him. we have seen flowers that he donated to a funeral of someone else who passed away. i do not think he has disappeared. he is already retired, elderly, no threat to xi jinping. my sense is he was confused on

that stage. and they ended that very uncomfortably escorting him away. but the way we read it given xi' jinping's total grip on power as it looks much more like a power play. >> a couple minutes left in the. program. csis.org. marianne is in albuquerque, new mexico a democrat good morning. >> good morning. i may have missed the earliest part of the discussion pretty but i have not heard this morning the calculus with all of these relationships with climate change. cook let's pick up. >> sure sure. twomi largest emitters bending e curve in reducing carbon emissions. the chinese haveca not. they have a developing country

used the space to commit that by 2030 they will start bending that curve down. until they still are increasing their carbonas emissions. at the same time they've also started to develop green tech renewable energies, electric vehicles everyone is probably familiar with that. as a result of the tensions over taiwan house speaker pelosi the chinese response canceled or suspended the dialogue over claimant that john kerry had been leading for the u.s. i think, it's not precisely clear what they said on this exact issue at the meeting. but president biden did suggest that the two sides should be able to engage on transnational issues, climate being very first one he mentioned. in the creation of working groups around a whole variety of

issues sending secretary blinken back to beijing. i wasei thinking it might be possible in the next few days we will hear the two sides that they are resuming those conversations on climate. obviously a lot more to do than just having a few meetings between the u.s. and china. but it doesn't feel like they may have broken that logjam. >> about 45 minutes left is there anything else she will be watching for the days to come from thehi g20? >> i went to see not only with the u.s. and china commit to, but what does the rest of the g20 say on all these multilateral issues that we face also boat reading but we take life in a bilateral meeting? everyone does not want to see the u.s. and china in a war.

always see is a dance not just bilateral but in the u.s. and china but with the rest of the world the g20 will be a platform we will see that. we'll see the next few months whether the u.s. and china will really resume the type of communication they ought to be having brickwork scott kennedy senior advisor of the center for strategic and international studies printing follow him on twitter@candy csis sensor bring it down for us. ♪ c-span is your unfiltered view of government. funded by these television companies and more. including media. >> the world change in an instant. but media, was ready internet traffic sword and we never slowed down. schools and businesses when the virtual and we powered a new reality because at media come we are built to keep you ahead. >> media, support c-span as a public service along with these other television providers. giving you a front receipt to democracy