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neighbors and fellow coaches. we are pleased to have them in our community. as her matter-of-fact it was just three years ago almost three years ago when chris christie's first book came out, that he was gracious into the tfundraiser on our behalf. we help their cross out the high school as a sold-out event on a very brisk february evening. i am pleased to say the second bookok when chris was agreeableo do a fundraiser would jumpp for joy without an officer myself and my fellow board members said let's go for it. and here we are again. that evening three years ago and tonight our c sellouts. she' considered tonight was a chris christie book signing is hamilton on broadway. [laughter] so our evenings program, mary pat will moderate chris will try to answer the question they begin around the questions we don't know&a yet. of q&a provision migrate in the center if you want to up and ask your questions.

please do not be bashful and ask questions were that further do i present mary pat and chris christie. [applause] y[applause] >> thank you let me make sure il do not have any feedback on this. this is really great. this is a niceus cozy group. and i just wanted to say thank you to peter and the board. the library is meant important part of our life and our families life for the last 30 years, which is amazingly been here for 30 years. we really appreciate all that the library stupor to actually just paid a fine print of $40 fine to the library two weeks ago. i did pick up a book and i guess i hadn't been in a couple of

years. so i gave my $40 fine. [laughter] you do not even want to know what. [laughter] anyway, thank you to everyone for coming out here. it has been an interesting journey these last six or seven months that it's taking you to write this book. but i wanted to start out was to ask chris why he wrote it and also ask him to tell us a little bit about the process of writing it. quick sure, thanksat everybody r being here tonight but it's great to be home. i've been on the road for most of the last two and half weeks except for couple of days around thanksgiving on a book tory in new york, chicago, los angeles and washington. it has been a busy few weeks. it's good to have my last official book event at home. so thank you all for coming out tonight.

i decided to write the book, mary pat and i went away for a few days after the joe biden inaugural. we did the inaugural took a few days down in florida to relax after what had been a really much more grueling than normal tv schedule because of all the craziness surrounding the election, hung a check for the results to come in all the rest. we went to florida for a few days. i was sitting at the pool and thinking to myself this is probably one of the worst two years the republican party had had in a long time. we lost the majority in the house of representatives, and 2018.. deming lost the senate and the white house in 2020. and it o struck me as someone hs been following this it may have been when i the worst times of ever had but sitting by the pool i got on my laptop and looked it

up. it only happened twice to the republican party since the founding in 1860. the last time after a this one s 1930 -- 1932 and herbert hoover was president of united states. he lost the white house in two d years. what happened after that the ordemocrats had the white house for 28 of the next 36 years. and so it struck me that maybe somebody who had been a very big loyal supporter of president trump needed to write a book about how we start to win again. some hundred been opposed to president trump all the way through there's a number of republicans who were, i do not think they would've had credibility in writing this book. peoplead would have dismissed i. i had real concerns about where our party was headed, the direction you're going it in the immediate aftermath of the

election. i had ideas about what we needed to do to get back on track. so the process of writing the book is you pitch the book to the publishers. when a couple publishers who were interested but all of them said you're going to write the bookok the first part has to do with the interaction with the present last year end half of the administration. after, let me finish the first book ended through to his leaving office inch january. so when you get a chance to read the book if you haven't already, the first third of the book is enkind of a recounting of storis and incidents that happened with me and the president. that is where he started the writing of the book but have a collaborator on the book, was my collaborator on the first book as well. alice and i have a process abuse in writing the book for the way we do it is we get together, we agree on which topics we are going to be discussing that

debris he takes out a tape recorder, he starts asking me questions and i start talking. then there is a poor woman out in kansas who has to transcribe all of that. she didn't send the transcriptions back to me and to alice and we craft chapters out of the transcriptions. then, more get out that there's another poor woman who has to do the research to make certain everything that we say that we are completely sure of is actually true. i will you one example from let me finish were i would've absently sworn this was a correct recollection but had a good friendch of mine in high school who was murdered. and i was telling that story to ellis at that time. he said when did this happen i said it was the day before school started my senior year in highso school. so we write the book and write

the chapter and then comes back and he says are you sure it was the day before school start of your senior year? >> absolute sure i remember it like it was yesterday. you're really sure customer guess. well this woman found the front page of our local weekly paper in livingston he was actually the day before the starting of school my junior year not my senior year. i guarantee you a feel put a gun to my head and said if you are wrong were going to blow yourld brains out, i would've said go ahead because i know it i absently know it. so roberta plays a really integral role in the process by researching everything we talk about and make sure that we have itit right. firstd and foremost for the integrity of the book. and a second the lawyers at simon & schusterta want to make sure we don't say something that is completely wrong that all of this will get sued. so then o chapter by chapter cos

in. we are working on it together but i'm doing a lot of editing and changing, and doing the initial language into my voice. we probably go back and forth on each chapter two or three times what he make suggestions, i make suggestions were balling it back and forth by e-mail. and limited the manuscript done and is sent to our editor at simon & schuster. she then will set it back to us with notes in the margin, things she wants us to explain more. things that she wants us to add. and in this instance we were on a very tight deadline. we started this in march, to have it out by november it is apparently for a land speed records for publishing. i don't get that butut i do not want to argue with the publisher because they're paying me.e i'm not going to argue with them we were working really quickly. we got to her stuff she then

decided she wanted an additional chapter on something.d she sent this to us by e-mail and ellis called me and said did you read natasha's latest e-mail questionnaire said no not yet. he said don't. [laughter] don't. i'm going to break it to you gently she wants another chapter. so literally what we did is we were on the phone with each other and i said on what? it was on covid policy. we talked about covid a lot in thewi book in the first part iny expense with covid and i'm sure we'll get to that. this is not what should our policy be going forward on how to deal with this? said i really think you need to do a chapter on that. okay and by the way i need it in two days. so i said to ellis, a right turn on your tape-recorded we don't have time to get together. turn on andhi let's go. we just started to goo and withn

the two days we had that last chapter done. then the last things you do asoo you write the dedication and acknowledgments for it is dedication of the front of the book is to our four children. on the acknowledgments in the back are a whole lot of people who contributed to help and meet with the book or contributed to helping me in this part of my life and career. that's the way you write a book. and believe me when you're finally done with the acknowledgments and you hit send and they acknowledge they received it, you do not want to see it again. [laughter] you do not want to see the book until it looks like that. and when it does all you do is look at the cover and title page which you sign. i have not looked at the text since late august when i sent it back out. >> chris also did an audiobook. that was a painful 25 hour experience i believe.

the other thing some of us read it and edited it. i'm going to tell little inside story that the cover is an elephant with a life preserver. and originally had a red cross on it. he was holding a red cross flag in the trunk and the red cross would not give us permission tos use it on the cover. we had to go to red and white life preserver. >> i think is great but on the final copy of the little elephant on this side still had the red cross flagen and i flagw the progress she did mary pat connor pricing here's the cover and she said wait a second the elephant on the side has the flag. >> you do not want to piss off the red cross. >> i will tell you how little i wanted to look at this anymore. it was a good catch because a pie would been sued by the red cross. so that is the process of the way at least i have written this book. and pretty much the same process

the last time for letting me finish as well. >> that is great. chris is a student of history, loves history. and there's a lot of history in this actually. talk to the audience about the fact we go over conspiracy theories quite so important to review his dream are partly the jon wert society pretty think they might find it interesting that background. >> make the argument for why engaging in spending any more time that have been out there, queuing on, pizza gate, and the' election cycle. i thought i had a historical context. this is not the first time we talked through this. as a country or as a party. i write extensively a pretty large chapter on the jon birx society. which in the late 50s and

early 60s became a force inside the republican party. very much one that had an anti-semitic string to it. it ran in through a number of conspiracy theories in that regard. and became a real force inside the republican party. i'm the founder of national review magazine was horribly disturbed by these developments. in republican party politics. he approached barry goldwater and knowing goldwater was considered running for president in 1964 and such a goldwater we should do this together and push back on these people. and if we do so together i think we could have a real impact on the party. i will write the first editorial

in the national review. then you write a letter to the editor of the national review supporting the editorial. buckley writes a 4000 word editorial the national review so bad for the vatican party goldwater was his out starts to get pressure back inside the republican party. he is worried that if he does is he will not win the nomination in 1964. and so he writes him back a very, very short week letter to buckley which is nothing like it. so buckley decides he's not going to publish it at first. and he goes to somebody else to

see who has credibility in the conservativeac movement. he went to ronald reagan. who at that time was not even an official pretty given a speech in 1964 on behalf of goldwater. it was entitled a rendezvous with destiny. and reagan had become very popular figure in the movement because of the speech. he would be elected two years later in 1966 as governor of california. but reagan stood up and wrote a long impassioned letter as a former democrat. as to why he thought the birchers were not somebody we should be embracing or empowering inside the republican party. and it absolutely did the trick. goldwater ran and you may remember goldwater's speech at

convention was one of the most famous lines was extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. that is directly jon burke's language. and he lost a monumentally. in fact a little at mars county historical note, barry goldwater was the last republican to lose mars county and for president till donald trump in 2020. for 64 -- 2020 mars county but for every republican presidential candidate. they rejected goldwater and they rejected trump in 2020. and i think there's interesting i did not put in the book because no one would really care, about that historical comparison. but this audience will. and i think it says something about this comparison we are making. so i think it is interesting chapter in place the chapters to tfollow into context you're

talking mcewenct on, the gate or the election conspiracy. we are not in a unique time. i hate when hear commentators on television say we are in the most dangeroustr time in the history of this country. we are more divided them if ever been in our history. somebody said on abc one day and then george came to me and said i don't know. it seems to me the civil war was improbably at simo and we were more divided than we are now. just a random thoughts. maybe we could inject a little common sense into the hyperbole. the reason for the circle contextt is too tight we have been here before and remember what happened after that? after that we won the presidency five of the next six times. between 1968 in 1992. so the republican party recovered. they became at once again a

national force at the presidential level. because we got back to basics. that is part of what the book is all about the. >> that is a great part along those same lines as history repeats itself. i love when you're doing debate prep with the president. youpl went into debate prep with the reams of examples of articles from previous y presidents, incumbent presidents. tell the audience we tolddru president trump why your advice. i did prep in 2016. i wash all of the closure eyes and picture this for a moment. i played hillary clinton. [laughter] in the debate prep of 2016. i did not do the first debate in 2016. he had the cast of ben hur prepping him for that first debate.

in his performance kind of reflected that. and after the first debate he called me and say would you do the debate prep for the second debate exit only if i'm in charge of it and only if i get to decide who is in the room. if we're going to have every tom, dick, harry and thereby don't care to play. he said you are in charge. so we did prep second third didn't go to the second debate i went to the first and i do not love the second one. we watch the second debate at home. seven or eight minutes after the debate d was over i was done shaking hands on the stage and taking pictures but my phone rang it was donald trump when he said to me oh my god, chris yu are so great. that was so easy. it was so easy as compared to debating you. that was great. because you are better hillary than she was. >> he said you are better

hillary than she is. so you're going to do debate three? yes donald yes. so 2020 comes in his staffff cos to me from his chief of staff at the time was mark meadows and jared kushner son-in-law, he read the first book is a dear friend of mine. i t came to me and said we wanto back in charge of debate. >> but they had spoken to him and that he was fine with it. and 3:00 on saturday it's edmondson.o okay.. so i president of the united states wants to go, you go. we're sitting on the first floor

of the clubhouse at bedminster, and in walked the president from his round of golf. and he sits down, and i'm sitting in the chair across from him. he sits and he looks, what the hell are you doing here? and i said, uh, debate prep. and he goes, are you kidding me? he said, debate prep in july for the end of september? how stupid do you think i am? [laughter] i'm looking now at jared and at meadows, we're both in the room -- [laughter] i just knew that this was a set-up, i knew they hadn't spoken to him because they didn't have the guts to talk to him, and they just figured that i'd charm him. so i had prepared for this. and i went back and since the modern era presidential debates restarted in 1976, you had debates between kennedy and nixon in 1960, and then there were no debates '64, '68 or '72.

and then in '76 gerald ford was wayte behind jimmy carter in the race coming out of the convention, so he agreed to debates with carter. so that started the modern era. ever since then there have been presidential debates every four years. what iin brought with him were articles that i'd printed out from '76, from '80, '84, '99 2 -- 92, '96, 2004 and 2012. those werese the elections where therehe was an incumbent presidt seeking re-election. or election, in serld ford's case -- gerald ford's case. and in every one of them, the president,he the incumbent president, lost the first debate. every time. and i went back and spoke to some of the folks who prepped those presidents for the

debates. i calledd them, they all knew i was doing trump, so i called them, and they all told me the same thing which i suspected, was presidents don't want to prep because they're presidents. they're, like, you know, i'm the president. what the hell do i a need to prepare for a debate for? i am the president. this guyre or woman over here, they don't know the presidency, i mow the presidency, i'm the president. so i sat down and said we need to start now, mr. president. and he said, i mean, no joke, he goes, what the hell do i have to prepare for? i'm president. i'm, like, this is so great, right? so i go into my briefcase, and i take out -- i toss 'em across to the table to him. and i said i want, i said debate prep is over. we're not doing anything else today. all i want you to do is go back tonight and read those articles. and then i'll see you next time you want to see me. and i got up.

and jared and meadows, well, maybe we should just talk in general about kind of biden's style. and i said read the articles, mr. president. and he said, whatpr are they about? i said, how every incumbent president lost because they felt they didn't need to prepare because they were president. sound familiar? and he said, is that true? which is also another indication to you about kind of the depth of historical knowledge of donald trump about politics. i end mean, he just doesn't -- i mean, he just doesn't have any. so this was all news to him. and i gave it to him and i walked out. and jarednd and meadows followed me out to the front of the club at bedminster, and i looked at them, and i go, you guys, like, you're so full of crap. you never talked to him, right? you never talked to him. and, ofie course, they denied i, said they did, but the guy was clearly surprised to see me there and didn't want to do prep. so he read hose article as. of course he did not follow any

of the advice, but he read the articles because he called me a couple days later, and here was the conclusion he drew from that: he goes, hose other guys were -- those other guys were so bad. [laughter]i i can't believeie how bad all of them were. i'm not going to be like that, chris, i'm going to be really good.ay okay, mr. president, you got it. >> yeah. he didn't go -- he must not have been a boy boy scout. being prepared was not -- >> yeah, we could go into the preparation for the debates, but it was, '16 was difficult because in the midst of, right at the end of the prep for the second debate, "access hollywood" happened, right? so i'm in the middle of prepping him on the friday afternoon before the sunday debate. finish and in came his press secretary with the transcript of the "access hollywood" tape. so that kind of derailed us for a little while, made it difficult. but he was very receptive to

preparation in 2016. and because he knew even though he wouldn't admit that he lost the first debate. he knew he lost the first debate, and he didn't want to lose again. so he was very receptive to preparation. he was m much less receptive in 020. >> so moving on to a different topic but something the book really talks a lot about is all these conspiracy theories. but talk to this audience in the way you do so well about where the proof is that obviously donald trump lost the election. but get some statistics about the suburban women and how he actually gained votes in the city. >> if you listen to the president talk about this, he has a number of different theories about why the election was stolen. and what you'll learn after reading -- and the way i try to approachoo it in the book is iny job,b, two jobs ago, not my last

job, i tried not to write like the governor. i tried to write like the united states attorney. and i take the approach of if i had to prove in court, what would i do? pause that's whatg i'm trying to do to all of you. i'm trying to -- if you have any doubts about this, i want to address those issues, lay out the facts and then let you draw your own conclusions. but, obviously, i'm taking it prosecute perspective of i believe -- from the perspective of i believe the evidence supports bringing a case. obviously, i think the everyday supports the cause i'm -- evidence supports the case i'm bringing. one of the theories is that the election was stolen from him in pennsylvania, in philadelphia and in michigan in detroit. and you heard him say, oh, the boxesn of ballots that showed up in the middle of the night in detroit. in philadelphia they were filling out ballots there that no one was accounted for. there were more ballots than

people registered to vote. you've heard all these things. well, we go through what the registration numbers are in pennsylvania and how there are significantly fewer people who votedla than were actually registered to vote. in philadelphia donald trump actually got 3% more to of the vote -- more of the vote in 2020 than he did in 2016 in the city of philadelphia. and joe biden got 1% less of the vote in philadelphia than hillary clinton did. i would argue to you that's a very unsuccessful steal job. when you let the guy you're trying to steal from get 3% more and the guy you're trying to steal for get 1% less. so illogical. they didn't steal it. now, the other thing you'll hear about pennsylvania is, wait a second. when i went to bed, donald trump was winning pennsylvania by 700,000 votes. and hen i wake up and -- and

then i wake up is and he's losing by 80,000 votes. they stole it. no.we we had a very unusual election in to -- in 2020 because we had the most mail-in ballots ever used in the history of our presidential election. and each state decided differently how they were going to count the votes, in what order. so, for f instance, in ohio when you went to bed and looked at ohio, joe biden was winning ohio. when you woke up, donald trump won ohio by 9 points. by the same pennsylvania theory, trump stole ohio from biden. no. here's what happened. in ohio they counted the mail-in ballots first. the mail-in ballots were overwhelmingly across the country and in some places 70-75% democrat. for two reasons. one, democrats are generally

more fearful of covid than republicans. so he were more fearful to go out to a polling place and vote in person. secondly, donald trump said all summer and all fall if mail -- fallt mail-in ballots are rigge, don't trust mail-in ballots, vote on election day. so republican voters listened to the leader of the party, and they didn't vote by mail. they voted at the machines that a day. so in ohio they voted -- they counted all the mail-in votes first. biden's upn by 7 points. we're watching on abc because we didn't know which way they were doing itio until we started askg questions.s. how s did joe biden win ohio by? well, then we count the machine votes in ohio and there was a 16-point swing. trumpni went from down 7 to up 9 and won by 9.

in pennsylvania, it was the exactt opposite. they decided to count the machine votes first. hence, donald trump's up by 700,000 votes. then they count the mail-in votes, and he loses by 80. in pennsylvania. a very similar swing in terms of the numbers and percentage we saw in ohio. lastly, in pennsylvania something was inn stark relief that happened all across the country, and i would suggest to you is why donald trump is the first republican presidential candidate since barry goldwater to lose -- [inaudible] the counties outside philadelphia, suburban counties outsidech philadelphia -- chestr county, delaware county, montgomery county -- >> [inaudible] >> right. in 2016 versus 2020 donald trump lost those four counties by

104,000 more votes than joe biden -- to joe biden than he lost to hillary clinton. he lost both times, but he lost by 104,000 vote ises more many those four suburban counties than he did in 2016. he lost the entire state by 80. so you need to know why donald trump lost pennsylvania, he lost pennsylvania for the same reason he lost -- [inaudible] white, educated, suburban voters gave him a chance in 2016, largely banded -- abandoned him in 2020. i am sure in the town -- in this town. but it you're by yourself or friends of yours you've spoken to, there's no question that that's what happened to him.

that's where he host in michigan. that's where he lost in wisconsin. over and over again, it was those suburbs outside the milwaukee, outsidede detroit, outside philadelphia who had voted for him in 2016 and did not. and i talk t about one anecdotal story in the book with a woman who shall remain nameless but she lives in town who had been a volunteer for both my gubernatorial campaigns, and she saw me the day before the election. and she said, governor, what's going to happen tomorrow? and i said, look, i think it's going to be a lot closer than people think, but i think biden's going to win. and she kind of looked down at her shoes and started shaking her head. she was a strong republican, she worked for me twice. and she said, oh, i mow you're disappointed, i'mm sorry. she said, oh, no, no, i voted for biden. and i looked at her, you voted

for biden? why? she said, governor, i couldn't live with that voice for another four years. so part of what we need to understand, and this ista why is so difficulton for donald trumpo accept it, because it was not a rejection of his policies. it was a rejection of him personally. by y a group of voters who had been with him four years earlier. somebody who's been on the ballot and won and somebody who's been on the ballot and lost. first of all, winning's much better. and secondly, losing is intensely personal, you know? politics is different than sports. sports you have a good day or a bad day. sometimes you win, sometimes the other person is better. they have a better day. that day the other day is betted

hay looked at the other person and went, nah, i'll take that one. i don't want you. it is, i can tell you from having felt it, it's intensely personal. and so if people wonder why donald trump is having such a hard time accepting this, in part it's because he knows that what i just said is absolutely true and that it's a personal rejection. and we go through all the other examples, but there's aof number of other -- arizona and all the different -- georgia, different places. >> sout that's a good segway ino what will be my last question forom you, and then we'll take some questions from the audience. but tell us your view, there's right now an effort in the legislation -- legislature to federalize t voting rights and voting systems, rather. can you tell us your view on that, voting laws

and what -- >> yeah, look -- >> -- you would do? >> well, look, in congress they want to federalize all the rules. of voting. i have to tell you, you don't want to live, in my opinion, under that system. each state is different. how we could ever hi that voting rules had be good for wyoming will be good for new jersey when wyoming is the least heavily populated state in america and new jersey iss the most densely populated state in america. the challenges that we face voting and theom conversations e have today are significantly different. secondly, the constitution, i think, is pretty clear on this. that these decisions are supposed to be made by each individual state. and, you know, i go back to, third, federal government's running it. what could possibly go wrong? [laughter]

right? i mean, imagine that the federal government's going to be in charge of counting all the votes. so instead of having all the a really great people that we have in the pyrehouse when we go -- firehouse when we go there as voluntaries, paid a little bit and not -- volunteers, paid a little bit, imagine those people all get replaced and federal employees come in. yeah. i don't think so. and is so, you know, what we need to do, like look at what happened -- [inaudible] how long it took to count thehe vote. here's why, because usually you have, like, 10 or 12,000 paper ballots. and every other time it's all in the machines. well, this time we had a huge multiple ofal that, almost 200,0 paper ballots. they have the t same number of machines to count. because theyea can't get ready

that quickly. they didn't know covid -- covid comes in march of '20. you can't order those machines and get them here by november of '20 even t if you wanted to. so one of the things i think that all of us in this state in particular given the number of voters we have but all across the country need to do is not assume that we're going to go back in 20202 -- 2022 or 2024 to a very small amount of mail-in ballots. i think some people have gotten used to that, i think like it. it'she convenient for them. and i think we're going the to have a lot more mail-in voting over time. so we better get more machines to count these votes. because the other reason why we have so many conspiracy theories is the longer it takes for us to tell you who won, the more you're wondering what the hell are they up up to. who's messing around with this? and t it's just, and i talk abot that a little bit in the book that it's a natural american thing. it goes all the way to the founding of the country, right?

there's been conspiracy theories about politics throughout our founding, and that's what happens in a free society where people get to express their opinions. they're opinions. they don't have to be right, they just have to be opinions. and they get to express them. and i'll always remember what -- used tos say. i miss him. he was one of the funniest peoplese i ever met, and one of the lines he used to use was i've made my wife ruthie promise me when i die she'll bury me in hudson county so i can remain active in politics. [laughter] so i want to make clear to you, and i say this in the book, i'm not saying that irregularities did not happen on election day this year. they did. and, by thene way, they happened in new jersey a month ago. and they happened in new jersey when i ran in '09 and '13. pleasure it happens all the time. --ti it hammes all the ti. the question is, is there enough

irregularities too change the result of the election in any one state it let alone the five states that would have been necessary to change the result of the electionsome and that, i think we proved in the book, is just not possible. so, you know, that's, i think, an important thing to remember. and if you think you don't trust the county clerk in morris county to count the votes, wait until some principal bureaucrat is v counting -- federal bureaucrat is counting your vote. forget it. conspiracy theories will be tripled and quad ruined question quadrupled. at least we know who she is, if we think she's messing around, we can kick her out. you're not going to get rid of a federal bureaucrat in charge of the election process. >> thank you for explaining that. so i think if anybody has questions, we can move to the audience. >> yes. there's a microphoneop right in the middle. and i think we need to use the

microphone not because i can't hear you without it, but because the tv guys who are here tonight. >> thank you. my question is if the biden administration continues to have some headwinds, do you think mainstream media will turn against him? >> well, i'll say this, not completely against him, no. because, look, the mainstream media in this country is slanted toward the left. there can't be any question about that anymore, right? in fact, they're almost playing it up. watch c-span on sundays. it is almost never not 3 to 1. watch tv on sundays. every once in a while they run a poor republican in there, but most of time it's 3 to 1. and that's even on unone of the networks. you go to the news networks,

they revel in their slant. of like cnn and msnbc are reveling in that slant. they think that's profitable for them, and fox revels in a rightward slant. so i say to folks all the time you should watch a little bit of both just so you realize that there are really two with different worlds we're living in right now, two different ways to look at issues. and most of the time you're going to come back to the way you think about things. but that's why, you know, if you look at the bottom of our driveway and our kids tease us endlessly about this, that we still get actual newspapers. our kids are, like, are you kidding? what do you get a newspaper for? just go on your phone. but we still get them. and you look at the bottom of our driveway on maury lane, there'ss three newspapers every day; the "wall street journal" to give us the conservative side of things, the new york times so i know whathe the enemy is

thinking -- [laughter] and the new t york post because it's fun. [laughter] so, you know, i think you should get a taste and same thing with mainstream media on tv as well. i painfully watch the -- because i don't watch this stuff every night, but when i do watch, i go back and forth between -- i can't watch msnbc. i have to be honest, i can't. it's just too much for me. but i'll go back and forth between cmn and fox, because i wante to see whatever the big stories of the day are how they cover hem differently, and they discover them completely differently. and they emphasize with stories, you know? there'll be a day where, like, let's say there's a big storyll the on wall street and there's a big storyto in washington, d.c.. cnn will cover the washington, d.c. story, and they will cover it with nothing but democratic

members of the house and senate and democratic pundits commenting on it. fox news won't cover the washington story unless it's really big. they won't cover the wall street story either, they'll cover immigration. and there'll be stories about immigration and the border, and end then those stories second and thirdly. i think it's really educational to watch all of it. as you can put up with. because it helps to inform me leastt when i'm talking to peope on the over side z -- other side as to why they hi some of the things they think, because that's whathe they're hearing in the news they're watching. so i don't think we have any hope of them plague it down the middle. -- playing it down the middle. i think those days are over. >> i happen to think one of the biggest failings if not the biggest failing of the country is the state of inner city public schools. i think it creates a generation of failure.

and i know why the democratic party can't get there, but when you see the lines of people desperate to get their kids into charter schools and anything to not go to the public school that they're at, why hasn't it taken hold in the populations who live there to get behind school choice, school vouchers, charter schools? because the party that they're voting for is entrenched in absolutely not supporting that, and the cycle is perpetuated, and it never gets better. i just, i can't understand why that population hasn't moved to the school choice argument, the charter school argument which is, you know, the can't be supported by the other party? >> ill say there's two reasons -- i would say there's two reasons. the first one is habit. you know, folks in the inner cities have gotten into the habit of voting democrat, and they just have a hard time breakingg that habit unless,

point two, republicans aggressively campaign there and make the argument. i would tell youou that i think our party has done a lousy job of making that argument. republicans, many off them, tend to be uncomfortable going into those communities and making those arguments. and i think it's foolhardy. if you look at what happened with me in 20 the 13 after -- 2013 after four years of arguing hard that public education was failing the very children you're talking about andnd arguing why and authorizing more charter schools than any governor ever has and all of that, what happened? we got more votes in newark, in irvington, in jersey city. we won bayonne, we won union city. we had 62% of the vote in union

city, new jersey, in 2013. what i've tried to argue to republicans all across the country is you've got to go to places you're uncomfortable in and bo to those places -- go to those places to make the argument that you know that that group of voters needs to hear. and to me, you're right that the education issue -- and virginia just showed this. .. of all the nominal patterson in camden. because they say to me when i was a governor, we are tired of

seeing the children who sit in our pews every sunday constantly be filled by this public school system. now, the reason it does not say 2.3, was the teachers unions across this country spend an exorbitant amount of money in making sure. and soo i can hear it now in our state and i hear our current governor, touting with the best schools in america. okay, for some kids. now he is the democrat who isde supposed to be the one who cares more about the underprivileged. yet, he will not say one word about the failure in our urban schools because to do that would run counter to his patrons and the teachers unions. and you all saw when iran up

against the teachers union in 2009, 2010, 2011. they beat me senseless. the money they spent was extraordinary. clement wanted to end it an upbeat more funny note. into the fall of 2010 we were in the midst of the first big fight with the teachers union. may, mary pat and all four children were in one of the suvs, going someplace i do not remember where. we were on the turnpike and we had gotten through -- we gotten off the exit we are going through the toll. up to the left was one of those of billboards it was a picture of me and said chris christie hates children. [laughter] and it was an awful picture of me awful picture of me. at that time our son patrick, for those of you who know our family, oury son patrick who is

definitely the straws that stirs the drink in our house. he was ten years old at the time. i didn't know they noticed it. i saw was hoping they did not see it. so patrick is hey dad, your people have to get better pictures of you. [laughter] and iid said patrick, did you rd with the billboard said? those are not my people. he goes out of the dad it really habad picture. [laughter] that's another reason happens as well. alexei governor christie sir. you brought up governor burns and hudson county. i am compelled to tell a story that goes back to 1985 when brendan byrne and ed broderick hereup in morristown or supportg a democratic candidate for senator. he happened to have a fundraiser down in princeton, new jersey at the time but he gets up and looks at bradley and says, you

know i don't understand why you happen to be running as a democrat. most of the democrats i know from hudson county followed the same pattern. they get elected, they get indicted and they get sentenced. i had a similar experience in my old job yes i would ask you about in 2020. an event you happen to be there which was the garden party proceeding the debate between a biden. and iue think we all know what happened subsequent to that garden party, namely that trump tested positive for the covid. they're all sorts of supporters of trump sitting in those chairs, your self included. how do you feel at the time he

knew he had the coronavirus, how sdo you feel about trump now? a gentleman who you supported for president in terms of his loyalty to his closest associates and putting them essentially in peril of the subsequent tests he had for testing positive? because a few things about that. too gently correct the record a little bit. my understanding is that he tested positive the next day. from what i have read now. does not change the thesis of your question except it changes it for what happened the day before. the day before, everyone who is sitting there i do not believe by the way that event was a super spreader event. they call that that but the people who got covered there were only three people who were at that party who got coded who were not involved.

one of them was father jenkins of notre dame. there were two others. i'm actually convinced we all got covid and debate a prep. there are seven of us including the present six of us got covered. it's disturbing to me and mary pat to have heard for the first time a day or two ago and mark meadows is a book that the president tested positive for covid prior to him sitting closer that i am to you for four days and preparing him for the debates y. as a story in the book after i got put in the hospital he was in hospital as well the story it makes much more sense to me than it did any time up until two days ago. he called me and said how arere

you doing i said not well. this is really bad and you sound bad too. inhe said yes can you believe to tough guys like us got this thing? we are so tough. how could this have gotten us? we are like the two toughest guys in america. i don't understand it. i said i don't know either mr. president. he thenn got to the point of the call. so how do you think you got it? i said i don't know mr. president i'm pretty confident i got at the white house. but since six of the seven of us in got it, who knows who patient zero was, i do not now. but obviously got it at the white house. he then said to me you aren't going to blame it on me are you? ii said why would i blame it on you i do not know you are the one who gave it to me. it happened in that room but i don't know, you are sick too. so you're not going to tell the

press i gave it to you? i would not say that because i don't know that it's true. now up until two days ago my thought process on that was that was just donald trump's paranoia. he did not want to be blamed. i was always a little bit suspicious because every one of us beside him got tested every day before we went in. went to the gate at the white house, you got admitted, someone escorted you to the eisenhower building next door. m that is for the medical unit is. you go into the medical unit, they would swab you. that you would sit there for 15 minutes. they get the result of the test. if you are negative you are authorized to go to the west wing. i was always a little bit suspicious as to whether or one of us got a false positive and false negative rather. or whether it was him.

he was the only one we didn't know whether he was getting tested every day or not. we would not know, he is the president. for me and mary pat, especially how bad my experience with covid was, and in the intensive care unit for seven days and a couple of moments really feeling like it was going to go the wrong way. you know, finding that out a couple of days ago if in fact what meadows says is true because he strives took head toa little bit in the book he said he got a negative test after that. so they weren't sure. but at a minimum what we were owed, everybody in that room it was me, kellyanne connolly, steven miller, pope hicks, and the other miller.

jason miller who was the only one who didn't get it. so presumably he is owed nothing. but the rest of us were all owed to be told that. because i would tell you this ws all would have worn masks. we did not wear masks because we said we are all getting tested ievery day. and that was why i wasn't mary wearing a mask at that event lbecause every person sitting at the amy coney barrett event all had been tested before they were allowed to come in. and all the tested negative. but what i said after words and whatever the president did, he is got to live with his own conscience. i am not going to be able to impose guilt onto him. he's either going going to feel it or not about what he did if he was in fact positive, to all of us. but what i will tell you is that for me, i said this after i got out of the hospital. itit was a mistake for me not to wear the mask. i became convinced that i was in

a safe zone because all of us had tested and i was wrong. and now i probably knoww why it was wrong, i did not know then. but regardless i should've worn the mask the whole time.ha it just would been an extra layer of safety for me and that'sma why said the stuff i sd after words. as you might imagine went mary pat and i both saw that pop up on our phones earlier this week early in the morning, we had an interesting reaction. >> thank you sir. so, you mentioned the irregularities on the election you agreed there were irregularities. do you agree the democratic party in the event of the system and they are lamenting it for the town they control? in the mail and valid and using the system somehow we definitely

have to be concerned about the same happened toin donald trump. i know highly controlled the democratra people, they do all f the things to influence mail in voting there is not fraud going on. so doing that and using the machine to teach our kids when they graduate they become 90% democratic. it's the system it is a corruption. they say no it e does not exists much that we need to worry about. i am feeling we got the grip you see california and illinois were going to get to focus. he got elected into terms. you see the assembly and senate they know how to win it.

>> let me respond to few things there and unpack that. i don't disagree with most of what you just said. except they did not steal the presidential election. it is just too hard. seriously think about this for a second period do you really think joe biden masterminded a nationwide conspiracy to steal votes in six different states? joe biden could not masterminds a one car funeral. the loaded mastermind that type of operation and have it unfound. now it yes, are liberals using an educationth system in a way o indoctrinate our children into certain thought process? absolutely. it is happening. that is a different fight. that is a fight we should have. mail in ballots. i support the georgia election

lauper i support the texas election law. i will take a quick story. this whole idea about not having to show id when you go to vote that somehow being asked to show id is discriminatory. i went to new york city eight or nine weeks ago. i walk into an office building in new york city, i go to a meeting. i walk up to the security guard he says governor, it's so amazing to see him such a big fan can i come round to take a picture questioning sure he comes from the security desk he gets his phone out he takes a celtic. he prints out my visitor pass, can you sign the visitor pass for me?es i have your autograph? absolutely sure. he goes back and says can i see your id? i looked at him and said all right. you are convinced enough that i am me that you took a picture

with me and you have me give you any. autographed. but you still want to see my id question witnesses i'm sorry it's the rules. okay i went to mike while i got my drivers license and give it to them. if i have to do that to answer an office building in manhattan to go to a meeting why it should not have to show the people in the firehouse my drivers license want to come to vote? i am a bad example because i walk in here they don't know me it's a problem. but i think should have to show an id. i think one of the things i did when i was governor is why you should beol less concerned about the voter rules in this state is i mandated to have the attorney general mandate the counties update their voter rolls. we knocked a lot of dead people off the voter rolls. a lot of people moved off the voter rolls during my eight years as governor. now he has got to be a constant

process because people die all the time and people move all the time. but the voter rolls of new jersey are in much better shape than they were before. lastly on mail in ballots they're going to continue to be a factor. i don't want republicans complaining about it anymore. it is not that hard. they send out the ballot, then they send the piece of mail saying hey you got your ballot here's how you return it. then they call for a five times and say did you fill out your ballot yet? then they text you, then they e-mail you. it's not turn out anymore it is a drag out. they drag those votes out of those houses. there is no reason we can't do that. there is no reason we are available to the same

technology. the only thing that makes it a little is the door-to-door portion ofam it. it's a little harder than door-to-door jersey city. i have done both in its much harder part that part were always going to be disadvantaged because they tend to be more suburban and rural areas. i was atee an event a week befoe the election this year for now senator jon, fundraising event for jon. and a woman raised her hand and asked the question about bill spadea on one of 1.5. what are we goingll to do to combat him? i looked at her and said let me tell you don't waste any time worrying about him he's not going to determine any election and i said but if jack loses it's going to be because we don't how to do mailing a balloting and they do. and it turned out six days later that i was exactly right. on the machines jack was

governor you count the mail and votesit so i think the election was stolen from jack i don't let's focus on the ballot. but we've got a bunch of things to do to be a competitive viable party moaning and complaining and looking in the rearview mirror never helps you when the election ever. voters do not want to hear about that stuff is not why they vote for you. blessed realty one that is running for reelection in 2013 right after sandy we rebuilt the boardwalk in asbury park. we built it in five months i'm down and taken a picture running for reelection. i walked on the boardwalk. a guy comes up to me and says hey governor, you're running for

reelection? i said i said why should i vote for you? it's a look at this boardwalk. that's what i got for voting for you at last sent what do i get for voting for you next time? voters think about tomorrow not aboutt yesterday. and that is good. that shows we are a hopeful country. we think tomorrow can be better than yesterday. we do notw. want to dwell on our parties got to start doing that. stop the politics stop the moaning and complaining vitamin the places we can fight but fight to give voter id. fight to do better on mail in ballots. fight to make sure the counties clean up the voter rolls. take the sinks out of play and then our ideas versus their ideas i feel like we will do okay. and by the way in an election where we lost the by three points we picked up 62 the assembly in a seat in the senate. and a lot of local seats. except for the top of the ticket, election day looks very

good for republicans across the state. i think it sends a very clear message but to legislative democrats who you watch are going to do much, much more reluctant to do what he wants them to do. they're all back up for election 2023. do the math that's the rethink new thing redistricting. that is very difficult. we've got a map t right now my wife started tell me too stop it with got a map right that now, think about this when i got reelected in 2013, i got 60% of thene vote statewide we did not pick up one seat in the legislature. fs on a gerrymandered map, i do not know what o is. top of the ticket get 60% of the vote and we don't went one seat underneath, thatt will tell you everything you needed but hopefully they're negotiating a new map will get a new map. we could be in control of the legislature two years. >> thank you. looks out was i just have one last question.

it has to be short answer. >> all right will see i might take two. [laughter] just to show people here you don't run everything by. >> i definitely doubt rex look there to guys there. two short answers. >> three guys will make them short answers. oxo make a straightforward question two. i see it governor, mrs. christie. looking forward like we've been talking about a lot tonight especially the midterms next year end even 24, how do you think the republican party best unites itself nationally section of the party and another section still very much likes president trump as the glenn youngkin model a good model for everywhere? does it vary? what are your thoughts onfe tha?

>> 's give a short answer to things. first, never forget the other side unites us like we could never unite ourselves. and by the way same thing with the democrats. donald trump united the democrats they have been united in my lifetime.h remember part of this process is oh my god what are they doing? we have to stop them. republicans are willing to put down some of their differences in order to stop that. the second piece is that we have got to start talking about things voters care about. elections aren't about what the candidate think is important. what the candidate thanks is important. part of what we need to do is to get ourselves back to that mode of thinking. we have not been we have been yelling and complaining and

screaming about things that most voters didn't care about not once but twice so we need to listen. thank you. >> i will try to make it fairly quick. needless to say having been a public figure i think everyone was well aware of a president trump's personality quirks and nkwhatnot. but one thing that has made people loyal to him is the fact that he will do certain things and by and large she did them. someone who is generally republican i've often been disappointed with failure to keep promises made during a campaign. too often we are talk to we will

do this. and then nothing is done. except for the fact if you look at trump he fixed a skating rink in new york after six years of nonsense. he built a golf course in the short period of time. he started buildingl a wall he moved to the capitol of israel this will happen and this will happen if he is going to be a more acceptable alternative to the personality problems. we want somebody who's still going to do what he says. i don't know why our party is often disappointed us.

>> i don't think it's unique to our party. what i will say is in the main i agreed with the things president trump tried to do. there are somethings where we differ but they are not hugely significant things. here is where i part company with him. you cannot stand up until the american people the election was stolen not present any evidence to support that. the words of the president of the united states matter more than the words of the york real estate developer. he continues to talk like he's a new york real estate developer when he was the president of the united states. the american people want tot. believe what the president tells in. any president while you voted for him oryo not. you want to believe what he said. it will be like barack obama standing up that night in april

of 2012 and saying osama bin laden is dead. and then he wasn't. what would we have thought at that moment? that is something of enormous gravity to the american people like an election. the idea someone would say he had been killed when he wasn't. it would've been something we awould never accept. saying election was stolen and not presenting any evidence to back that up here we are 13 months later. we still think the same thing. to me that creates a huge credibility problem thattu diminishes what you just talked about. and i said this to the president the saturday after the election. if you don't either present the evidence that stolen now, or concede the election you are

going to diminish w your legacy and a weight that will damage you personally and damage the party for a longan time. so i agree with you there are many things he said he would do that he got done. there's a number ofsa things he said he was going to the did not get done. you can say that about anybody. but election night was to me a line that made it impossible for me too say that is okay because it is just not. and we can all get into this business knowing that we can win or lose. sometimes you think it is not fair. i have lost i thought were not there. but that is the deal. you stand up like an adult and say i don't think that was fair volk's have been counted the people have spoken and i will live to fight another day. that is where i think the divide is now. that is something that was not

necessary to do. and not welcoming the bidens to the white house inaugural morning, not going to the inauguration, look you think hillary clinton wanted to be sitting there on january 2017 donald trump's inaugural. to think al gore wanted to be sitting there in 2001 at george w. bush's inaugural? george bush 41 wanted to be sitting there in bill clinton's inaugural. i'm positive they would rather have a root canal than sit there and welcome to the white house this is how we work in this country's of transfer of power were the vanquished congratulate

the victor and we leave with grace and dignity. he didn't do any of that it diminished him and it diminished our country in the process. you can still say don't think it is fair. thirty-four days in court all the way to the u.s. supreme court. when the u.s. supreme court ruled even though all gore walkd lost five -- four he diden not y i'm not listening to the supreme court and i'm not moving out of the naval observatory i'm staying i'm still the vice president. he conceded, he went out, he welcomed bush to the observatory. they met and showed the country this is that we operate operate. that is the way we have operated for the last 250 years. i think that is one the president should have done much differently. >> thank you big support of my wife and i drew up the shore just to be here. we are glad we did. anwe would love to see you as or candidate in 2024.

but going back to your point a little while ago about how your ownou constituents felt about trump and not wanting to hear that voice but i work for company that's based in the midwest and i spent a lot of time out there. there's a lot of good right-thinking people out there. but when it comes to new yorkers or anybody from the northeast we don't get them we don't talk too fast we don't give them a chance to hear we are saying to them. they took a chance on trump and they feel they got burnt. how would somebody like you overcome what has become a bias over the northeast thanks to donald? >> i could tell you i was in iowa a decent amount of time there. you got to come up a little bit if you come for the northeast.

i think for any of us our own authenticity has to be able to readse or lie on. there are plenty of people believe me i did social media for this plenty of people who do not like me. that is okay. that is their right. but even the people who don't like me, most of them do not call me a phony. they've gotten to know me but they don't like me because their call its politics we cannot back away from authenticity one the reasons reasons trump got elected was because people said all right, look. you may not saved by i like to say it butwh man, i think he mes

it. i think that is who he is. and aspl a result the people wee willing to take a chance on him based on that authenticity. isolate the single most thing in the candidate is authenticity but you can tell when they are not. you look at certain candidates i rant against 2016. they are sitting there trying to think of what the answer should be. to try to figure out what you want to hear and then give it back to you. the american people have proven themselves to be a lot smarter than that. i think the only way to overcome any of the biased against the southern candidate talk about a weird accent. they think we have one, look at them. there's always going to be a bias. i think certain candidates overcome that with their

approach, their personality their authenticity. that's all we can relyw on. i know i said only three. i am not sit down and leave. >> no chance. i've got a good job with this not to jump off that i'm okay with that i admire you i was happy to be here tonight. i am a moderate i think people need to understand biden was a placeholder he was a viable candidate to trump. it was because were so in love with biden saucy independence gone way over toou the left some so glad c-span is here to see

this. i'm feel even the majority are feeling that way. you at this point represent a minority to some extent of yourn party' someone is standing up to the election conspiracies and so forth. i'm wondering if donald trump and his minions start going after you what are you going to do? how are you going to react? i would much rather see you on the ballot. >> you all have watched me for a while. morris county even longer than newll jersey. i'll give you the president a week or so ago talked about my approval rating look, my approval rating was bad enough when iut left. he made it worse pretty light about to make it worse. why didn't you just tell the truth?

it was really bad when i left. you could have used real number it would've been terrible's response was i don't know, donald, when iran for reelection i got 60% of the vote. when you ran you lost to joe biden. [laughter] that's what i willna do. now look, donald trump has never gotten in a fight with me. i believe because he knows i know how to fight back. he fights in the main the people who can't fight back. and you will notice if you notice back in 16 i was like one of the only guys or women on stage that did not get a nickname. little marco, client said, crazy jon, i did get one. and i am susceptible to any number of nicknames. [laughter] that he clearly could have thought a of.

and something about what you said about biden, i said this to trump 2017, we went for lunch with the president on valentine's day 2017 he'd been in office three weeks and he called and invited us to come down and have lunch with him. it was not my exact idea of valentine's day but i got to bring mary pat with me so it was okay. and he said to me, look around can you believe i am here? he was showing me the oval office remember something you did not win this election, she lost it. i sent mr. president it doesn't matter because your hand was on the bible o and generate 20th, you are sleeping upstairs but you're sitting in this office it does not matter but now you need to make the next four years about you because you will be the one being judged four years from i now.

i said same thing happened to me when i 12009, i didn't win, he lost. i'm not big enough egomaniac to think oh my god what i really wanted is chris christie. they want oh my god i don't want jon anymore is a sky reasonable? and i, like barden a jump i didn't look like the reasonable alternative to someone who they had already rejected but i understand exactly what you mean. and by the way that's how trump got elected and succeed in my opinion. hillary clinton this is demonstrated by the polling data on election day, was the single most unpopular presidential candidate on election day in american history.ti by the way, the second most unpopular presidential candidate on election day in american history was donald trump. but, a little better than her.

and so he one. when i told him that a mary pat will tell you, he got so pissed. i won, and one in a landslide that's outrageous she didn't lose i beat her. i am like look, you can think that but it's just not true and you should not be upset about it. do not get upset. i felt the same way i know of course i lost i didn't win. but what i did mr. president was n every day i went to my campain manager the day after the election in 2009 because we won with 48 and half% of the vote in the three-way race. i looked in said everyday from here on out your job is to figure out how we build that coalition. what i need to do to convince as many of the 51.5% of the people who did not vote for me too vote for me next time. if donald trump had done that he would still be in the white

house today. instead what he did was decide to just play to his base. and when that happens in a closed election you don't bring the country? together, you wind of going down. and you're right again is exactly what happened to joe biden right now. joe biden promised to be the uniter and bring the country together and return it to normalcy and then he comes in to the base of his party, the exact same mistake that trump made. and does not try to bring the country together bring more people in. remember in 2013 when i got reelected and i got 51% of the latino votes. i got 29% of the african-american vote. four years earlier, i got 11% ot the african-american vote and 33% of the latino votes.

that did not happen by a miracle. it is because we worked every day to reach out to those folks who didn't vote for us, asked them why and try to deal with issues they were concerned about. i absolutely agree with b you. biden abandon them first. they did not leave him, he left them. there standing in the middle the country going where did joe biden go? he's all the way over there with elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. the democrat party rejected elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. and kamalain harris because they were too liberal. they nominated a 78-year-old guy for two reasons. he was in the middle, and they wanted to beat trump. they knew those other ones couldn't. so i don't understand why this is so complicated. i really don't. maybe i am just getting too old.

and i have seen too much. but it is pretty simple on how arto try to govern and when this country. winning is the hardest part. but once you get there what this power of the governorship or the power of the presidency you have the ability to be able to bring together. you just have to decide to do it. i am disappointed that trump didn't. i am disappointed biden isn't. and i think the american people sent a pretty clear signal 2020 the public would have dissented again in 2024, that we want someone who is going to bring the country together. we are tired of being divided. we are tired of being not been go to cocktail party and have a conversation about politics. we are tired of people yelling b at us because we have a sticker on her carpet retired people

giving us a hard time because of what we believe. when i grew up in politics that was not the way it was. and i think we can bring him back. this book is an effort to start with my own party. always easy for me too lecture democrats frequents one to run as an independent? you could probably win. but we need to do as a republican start with your own party. and start with talking to them about these truths. and look, either i will convince people or i won't. but that is what this business is all about. governor they would say to me in the polls say this. and i would say to them, while my job is to change polls to follow poles. if you are a persuasive leader, your job is to change polls not to follow them.

so i hope that is what this book starts to do. i know this much started a conversation rupert murdoch gave a speech three days later at the meeting he said donald trump is wrong. the election was not stolen we have to stop talking about it. we are going to fight for the future and we have to stop pouring about the past. if trump doesn't stop talking about it then you cannot be a part of the future. the head of fox news is saying that, we may be starting tot' gt someplace. that is why i did the book and that is what we started theau conversation. and i am glad you were the last question because that's a great place for us to end. i doth and to say one thing besides thinking my wife. not only for tonight vote for putting up with me for the last 35 years, is that this place is really special to us. we have been here 30 years and we have been made to feel welcome here for all 30 years we

have been here. when we were brand-new residents with no children and nobody knew who we were to being eight freeholder and then being the has suv idling outside of every placee for every place all around town with the guys twith the wires in their ears. at least for that time you lived in the safest town in new jersey i guarantee that. no problem there you definitelyu do the safest place. but through all the ups and downs there were times that were difficult. when they had those difficult times in public life and you come home you want to not have to worry about going out at home. and i can say when things were great everybody here is great too. but when things weren't great everybody here is great here too. even discreetly they did it in a way that was respectful of the fact we are one of you.

so we thank you for that. provided us a community to raise all four of our children and away we wanted to and when they were in the public spotlight you made it better not worse. you did not make them feel different. and on the soccer fields are the little league fields are on the football fields you guys made them o feel like they were just four more kids and that made our lives a lot easier. so thank you for coming tonight and thank you for having us. [applause] [applause] >> thank you governor. thank you mary pat for another beautiful evening. ♪ if you are enjoying book tv center for our newsletter using the qr code on the screen to receive a schedule of upcoming programs, author