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this segment we want veterans to calls at (202)748-8000. everyone else you can call us at (202)748-8001. we would like to get to your calls and your questions, again if you are a veteran or anyone else we will get to some of those calls and just a moment. so allison, start out by reminding us what does your organization iraq and afghanistan veterans of america, what is it do? how many members does it have been how is it funded? quick so iraq and afghanistan veterans of america advocacy organization in the country. since its founding in 2004, it has been the leader both in the media and on capitol hill advocating for the generation of veterans that i belong too. and then outside of iraq and

afghanistan and his variety of other countries. we are a powerful voice for all those who serve post- 911. when it comes to funding we are a national. we rely on the generosity of foundations, individual donors, to be able to do the work that we do. we have been very, very effective punching way above our weight class for most of the organization. has been extraordinarily successful bleeding fights that led to the passage of the bill. leading to the passage of the suicide prevention act. raising awareness around the unique needs for women veterans. was only leading veterans organization willing to make women's veterans of purdy back in 2017. we have seen great gains ever since but there are still more work to be none too. i'm really excited to be stepping into this role as

approaches its 20thh anniversary. and i am really excited just to be here with you this morning. someone who spent my entire career fighting for change and better public policy and being a very engaged citizen myself i really appreciate because i feel like it's one of the most engaged citizens out there so thank you very much for having me today. >> can you tell us a little bit about and we appreciate you joining us, tells a little bit about the military background and how it led to this role you will be assuming in a couple of weeks. >> so and my own personal piece about me, i am the only career success story i know of.ca an eighth grader took a trip to fort meyer which is thehe mility base connected to arlington national cemetery. it was not mike chose to go there i was a voluntary old as

we say in the army put everything about the place swept me off my feet. that's how i felt no it's our country and envision my service to the country as military service. it was my dream from that point on to serve i thought at the time was a career in the military. i want to college in the fall of 2000 this was pre-911. but of course the fall of my sophomore year everything changed. at that time i thought i would be headed to afghanistan at some point but of course the next year we got ourselves into a second war into the iraq war. i was pretty sure no matter what we're going to go to war at some point after graduating to graduate in 2004, got sworn into the army. by thanksgiving of 2004 i was in iraq. i was there for a year i was logistics officer. but needs changed in my soldiers

jobs are contracted out. most of my platoon from that point forward did force protection in iraq or force protection rent logistics convoys. they became a gun truck platoon if you will. between the petroleum tankers and the flatbed trucks, with the big guns and making sure those convoys were protected as they went around the country. came home for your to fort carson where i was station homicide. then deploy to get in generally of 2007. with that i think 60 days of us being there we were going to surge of troops in iraq too i ended up spending 50 months inin country during that deployment. and then i decided to essentially let go of my childhood dream of serving in the army for life. i thought perhaps i can make a bigger impact outside of the

army honor my fellow countrymen and my fellow service members. so i got into the world of politics and spent some time on capitol hill and the white house and on campaigns across the country. it's really been an honor to bring that skill set to an organization to be able to advocate on behalf of of a generation of veterans that i belong too. >> right let's go to the phone lines that we do have people calling in. i just want to remind our listeners again the number for veterans (202)748-8000. everyone else (202)748-8001. our first color is a vietnam veteran. jon and alamo, california what is your question or comment thir morning, jon? >> i have had this experience were i have very good health

insurance. but i do go and use the vietnam benefits and they have been very good. i strongly recommend that two other veterans. i also use it as a posttraumatic stress issue with some of things that happened to me in vietnam. but the reason i'm calling in is i have but again, told if i should mention it but at the very good insurance plan. i thought it was interesting that a sort of gravitated more into the va program. when i checked with my health insurance i don't get the same kind of documentation my wife gets who uses our health plan. when i finally asked him to send me the last year of records of payments that my health plan

pays for va treatment, none of that is in there. so my conclusion is the va health insurance but my health insurance plan which is $1000 a month, it does not pay a dime for this. my reason for calling in is, i would think that my health insurance would be paying for the care at some agreed-upon rate in order to increase or augment the money going into va service'. that is what i'm looking at. i'm curious if you've had an opportunity to look at in the issue like that? it t was not easy for me too get down to this and finally have them send me a computer printout on this. it was obvious things i was receiving from va or not been shown to me onn those documents

from blue cross. >> allison do you have any insight into that? i know healthcare is a big issue for our veterans. >> healthcare is definitely a big issue. depending on your disability status, that is how the va is designed into how much you are paid for care some veterans have issues to go to the va they just pay a co-pay. your experience is very different than many veterans in terms of the fact for as much criticism the va has gotten over time, there are a lot of veterans who find the quality of care they're really great. that cultural competency something no other private healthcare provider can match when it comes to the va. you are there with other veterans who have had similar experiences. i think that's very important to when it comes to mental health

care. i will speak from personal experience, it's very different when you have a therapist who can relate to your livedis experience versus a therapist to cancer. i am sure outside the veterans committee their other communities or that's probably the same thing too. you have someone who is a therapist who can write your lived experiences they can relate to your unique journey in life. i find it makes a healthcare and healing much more efficient. in terms of how the public and private would interact, that is not something i have a ton of insight into. i know that i am very committed and the va is committed to make sure those veterans who want to turn to the va for healthcare get the best quality care and the best access to that care as possible. because i want to bring up in the current year the 2023 veterans administration budget,

the veterans administration agency has the largest budget ever at $303 billion. that is a 10% increase from the previous i fiscal year. va medical care services are the main beneficiary of that funding. it goes up to $118.7 billn this year. there's also honoring our prome to address comprenve xic known as the pack to act wa signed in 2022. that is to expand and extend eligibility benefits for v health care for veterans who had toxic exposures. vietnam era veterans, goal for era veterans, post- 911 veterans. can you talk a little bit again that was a bill signed in 2022 that kind of expanded the list of health conditions that

veterans could be eligible to receive medical coverage for. what is some of the impact of the packed act legislation, alice? >> my generation of veterans a huge issue is toxic exposure from burn pits. on my second appointment lived near a camp called camp trashcan where there is s smoke billowing not just up above trash camp sent it would over the camp i was stationed at. for a long time while were there many of my buddies and i were concerned about the lingering smoke that we were sleeping under and working under with the impact it would have on us. not knowing what was in theat smoke, et cetera. so i think advocating for it started with the burn pit registry just tracking all the veterans a number of years ago. the packed act is huge because it guarantees if you have cancer

for example, and were exposed to a burn pit while you were deployed the va would help treat and cover that cancer that's a cancer treatment. the great thing about the packed act is is the conversation evolved we were able to include a number of other presumptive causes for other generations of veterans and service members. there's even treatment for this an issue with water in north carolina. there is a presumption if you lived in camp lejeune during a certain period of time you could also get coverage fromim the var mental conditions could be a result of that. but does require the va budget grows to be able to have the ability to invest in that care. but i think it is important, i think the other thing i want your viewers to take into is as

with any budget there'll be a budget debate going forward. we made a decision of this country to fight our wars. we did that certainly post 911. most in our politics say they'll do thatrd going forward. we're going to continue to fight with all volunteers it is very important we keep a promise to the veterans who are willing to risk not only their lives in wartime but anything that comes along with how messy war is that we will take care of them when they come home. and that in addition to taking care of them if there are any challenges, ptsd, cancer from toxins, we've also told them wea will invest in them as well. if you want it, top-notch education. so with your service we can also help you ascend in american society. as we continue to go forwardin

even though we are investing a lot of ourth veterans these day, there is a real good bottom-line reason for us to do that we want to fight with a volunteer force. lines now. in tucson, arizona, kay is on the general line. go ahead. caller: hi. i am a mother of -- my son is in the army reserve, he has been on reserve for over eight years. he just signed up for another six. many don't realize reservists don't get free medical when they enlist. you have to be active to get that. my son goes away to his unit, he got hurt, he had to pay his own medical bills and it took him over six months for them to

reimburse him. this is a boy who is willing to go and fight for his willing to go to fight war for this country and stands up and protect uste and we can't even take care of them, you know, and i feel so bad for the other veterans out there. but i mean this is a new generation of our military and support and this is how we treat, treat them. i mean, it's -- it makes us sad. >> all right kay let's let allison respond. >> first thank you kay. a lot of my work is just hearing stories like yours or your sons through you. and then taking those stories to policymakers to see if they're, you know, tape that we can get rid of or that we can make service members who as you noted are willing to step up and be on

call to go defend our country. you know there are a lot of americans who -- you know sleep in safety and security and that comes at a price. because our services are willing to make sure that any threat that comes to us, you know, is defended against so first and foremost thank you for your son willing to stipthere are fewer and fewer americans willing to do so. and i really appreciate hearing yourll perspective and i think that's something that i want to ask my team to kind of look a little closer at because especially if he was on duty when he got injured, of course, we want to w make sure that he s from the government health care system that he has earned and deserves. >> all right our next caller is a gulf war veteran smashing calling from wyoming. >> goodhe morning, ladies.

>> good morning, what's your question or comment, mark? >> yes. my -- comment is about the gulf war syndrome. i was on several panels from san antonio to washington, and in the haste and the hurry of the government during the gulf war to give us shots to go over there. we had seven shots and we know now that a combination of shots of different drugs can be harmful to your health. but in my research what i found out and this is for veterans who's listening because i know you can't really answer this. the viles that was sent to the government because they were in sucher a hurry that the viles ws contaminated. that is documented in my research, i found that several companies inve massachusetts had viles that was sitting outside --

contaminated but then they were filled filled in with these drugs. my question is, with this pack ad you guys are just concerning yourself with the ones that was the gulf war syndrome effected people that wasn't in theater like the national guard that was in indiana where they started looking at it. now there's -- it's only for those in threat or. this is just out there do your research you'll see that viles were contaminated. thank you. >> allison is that something you've heard about it? >> it is first time i've heard about and i appreciate mark calling in and sharing that. your perspective and your knowledge again is the dialogue is helpful so i can, you know, lead our organization fighting to get back for veterans but all veterans it is helpful perspective to get.

i'm also very jealous that i don't live in cheyenne, wyoming it is gorgeous out there. >> pete is in appleton, wisconsin, a veteran as well when did you serve? >> well, i was in the 70s i don't even know if i even should be talking about this because -- i feel bad for the veterans that gulf war and all of these other complex -- because those guys and men and women are not getting the care that they should get because i think i'm not sure but i think that they have to, it has to be service connected or something like that. i don't know how that went. i'm not totally sure about that. but in my case i have lots of problems with the v.a. especially about outpatient

procedures. the usa today did a study quite a while back on why all of these veterans all over the country are getting screwed over for the procedures and -- i think i got caught up in that bureaucracy because they took me out of two evaluations while i was in patient while i was in the v.a. medical centers, in wisconsin here, when it came to the actual procedure, they wouldn't take me. and they have two chances to do it. and they refused to do if. so -- i saw two way investigations against them i called one congressman and tiffany, i called one senator named cami i talked to their veterans liaison people. they supposedly went after them asked them why they did this, why they did that but nobody ever told me why. id think i got caught up in tht

bureaucracy they have to do what the choice mission community care what are you want to call outside of the v.a. coverage. at the time when this happened to me, it was during the covid period. so the outside providers were still providing care. none of them were but the v.a. was shut down and they weren't providing care so kind of like, you know, if you call that a double wham when whammy but i hn to get caught up in this i never did find out why becauses supposedly they don't have to tell you why. they don't have to tell the veteran why. you know, they went after him reeducated him. >> let me let allison, pete you know a lot of what you said your organization does allison is work with veterans to help them with red tape. help them navigate the

bureaucracy, what are some of the things you've learned in yourth advocacy work what would you tell members of congress would make the v.a. work better for its veterans? >> well first of all, appleton is a wonderful place to live. i've lived there a little bit myself. so i hope all is well up there. and i'm also sorry that you're dealing with so much -- madness actually is what it sounds like with the v.a.. to you taking up to your members of congress i think members don't know that your member of congress can be a resource and they are able to get answers for constituents. youe know, a big picture i thik something that our va is calling for watch on is making sure that the health care system works for very very veterans i think it works for some really well depending frankly where you live in the

country. and in some areas it works very terribly for folks. i think access is a greater issue in many cases than the actual quality of care which is sounds like it is what you're running up against and not getting clarity on the benefits that you're allowed to get from your v.a. health care system. so you know, i'm a little concerned that you're not going to be getting feedback even if something didn't get cover so it is great to hear your story as i, you know, launch forward in this new leadership position. that was something that i wantar to dign in a little bit more t. >> we're going take another caller this one is in south dakota, vim veteran, dylan good morning, dylan. >> good morning, ladies. i'm 100% connected and i was in vim during kat, and there was

two attorneys from the board of veterans had mutilated files and it was lawrence godfree and she was writing fake statements against veterans because every time they have a file they did a bonus,re and he was at this for0 years, and there was 29pows that died in the process that were in homes in the v.a. system. and they kept me at 30% rate. and in 96, they came down with the acute claim for erroneous statement and put them in prison for 15 months. they paid back 64,000 dollars and all of the money went back to the board for the man hours

wasted. they hadd. left, and in '96 they paid me back and first claim was in april of 1970 and i'm still fighting them and i'm 7 3 now and i started when i was 20. can you imagine and then my wife got colon cancer and died. but v.a. did take care of her very well, and i don't to stay on too long. but they lost my file, 7 volumes for two years -- they couldn't find my files -- so now i'me. sitting outs here still have a claim in. i've been -- he was director of the v.a. then, and i've got letters from him that he was appalled.

so -- >> dylan we do appreciate your call it brings up systemic issues with v.a. a lot of issues over the years. do you think v.a. is showing improvement and where are there still -- where's there still room to improve? >> well first i'm very sorry to hear about your loss and also your experience. you know, i will say that the v.a. has come a long way since, you know, historic back log that happened a number of years ago. but there's still work to be done. you know, and got to be on leaders, you know, not just the v.a. secretary but in regions across the state to make sure that we've got employees doing right by veterans. you know, it is larger health care system in the country so it is a big job and i'm first to say it probably is a task to not

only tackle but to stay on top of going forward. but they raise their right hand and step into leadership role of leading the v.a., have, you know -- needs to do right by our veterans and be very vigilant and then, you know, our job on the outside is to be as vigilant and hold leaders accountable to make sure they're doing job they're supposed to be doing so it is a huge bureaucracy and i think the reason why this work will still exist the work that -- you know, i have been doing is because it's somebody isn't continuing to hold leadership accountable, our veterans will suffer. you know, and so our job is to continue to hold them to standard so our veterans get highest standard of care. >> i want to mention something you've mentioned earlier. but to bring up some numbers regarding women veterans. by 2040 the projection is that

one in five veterans will be women in 2020, that was one in 20 veterans and that's according to the news. how n does that effect the advocacy work you're doing especially as a woman veteran theu fact that there are so many more women, women entering military service in this newer generation. >> yes. i appreciate youio giving me the opportunity to speak about women veterans. you know, it is funny to go from having your own personal experience and then step into a rule to advocate on all veterans but all women veterans and everybody's story is different. that said, the women veterans are as we noted the fastest growing demographic in the veteran population. and so getting the not just the v.a. system but a country that supports us to understand our unique experiences and

understand that we're as much part of a veteran population as what stereotypically we would assume is a male veteran. has taken some work it's taken some work to get the v.a. system closer to parody in terms of the quality of care that women veterans are getting. but also sort of change in public conscienceness when people speak of a veteran do they think of somebody that looks like mane educate americans to understand that there are -- as many, you know -- there are women serving these days. you know, and in my generation women have now been allowed into combat roles i certainly was in the line of fire when i was deployed but we weren't allowed to serve in combat roles and so -- a, that's pretty bad ass. and i think like women need to get especially those who are in infantry he's days are in

sacrificing so much measure than many other americans. but also as they change roles they're serving in in the military that's going change the way they need care when they come out in military too. so there has to be that constant dialogue about how veteran population is change and older generations die off. and ourch younger generation ges out and it is, you know, more female than ever before. >> let's go to dan in memphis, tennessee you're a veteran tell us when you started and then share your question or comment. >> i serve in the vim era from 1971 to 1975. i volunteered for the draft on the job. and i came back from the job, they didn't give rights -- and attorney general told me

they prefer i pay for it myself. and then -- i didn't forget about it. [inaudible conversations] i paid loan off and in vietnam you have homeless veterans around hungry dying there and home loan at my bank, why have they put stipulation on the v.a. loan and you have to get -- veteran on the streets -- [inaudible conversations] you have to get -- that's not a v.a. loan that's a bank loan. thank you. >> veteran homelessness another issue that's big in when you talk about veterans. >> yes. tragically, there are far too

many veterans that are homeless for them it is tired to their war wounds. those suffering from ptsd who maybe have a hard time, you know, keeping a job and then find themselves homeless. andha so there's a lot of work o be done in that space. not just because, you know, we don't want anybody without a house but i think it's -- a great tragedy for many americans that veterans who put it all on the line in vietnam or my generation are coming back like we wanted to go to school in g.i. bill of a thriving member ofan the community not to come back and be suffering from their war wound and ending up homeless after all of the sacrifice for our country so there's a -- ton of work to be done there. and i think there's also work to be done not just to get homeless veterans rehoused but to also focus on how we transition

veterans to make sure that that's not an outdhoom we're finding veterans in anymore. you know that we are walking with them from military service into post surgeon excuse me post service life to ensure that every veteran stays on a path to prosperity but it will be an active it has to be active it can't be passive so that's why -- you know, folks organizations liken exist it is playing an active role in making sure that we'reni keeping an eye on how or country is taking care of folkings as they transition. >> so i want to bring up some video last month just prior to the "state of the union" republican representative mike mccaul shares foreign committee discuss reasons why his committee is going to kick off a series of investigations regarding the 2021 u.s. withdrawal from afghanistan.ar

here's a portion of his remarks. >> so overall i think the veterans and the gold star mothers deserve answers as to why did this go so badly and why were americans left behind and afghan partner who is we promise we will protect and why do we betray them and leave 100,000 of them behind with the taliban. tonight i will be having ramani afghanistan ambassador to the united states -- and i've invited her to stand in the gallery as my -- with my ticket to remind people aboutre the women, the women who were left behind under taliban rule and how they're being treated as property as watching them they can't get educated now. they can't go outside their homes. and many cases they're tortured. and a remindser of what this administration did and failures this administration that we

cannot forget. we have to learn from our mistakes and do better. >> so allison i wanted to ask you, you know, qhar your thoughts as you listen to representative mccaul. but also just in general, what are your thoughts about the fact that congress is preparing to do these hearings and investigations regarding the afghanistan withdraw, withdrawal do you think that's necessary? actually more broadly there's an afghanistan work mission that's being setup to have the war that's independent of what the former relation committee is going to be and regardless of your politics most people can agree that the afghanistan withdrawal wasn't our finest moment. and when it comes to getting answers around withdraw, you know to me i wish more people knewe that the withdrawal and e way it went down and, you know, it wasth widely on the news as u know, that coverage was very

traumatic taking in that traumatic for vets who served in that war i served in iraq twice didn't make it to afghanistan. but those who did, you know there are a variety of different emotions that they felt. i think those who had interpreters trying to get home before all of that went down it was a -- especially traumatic, and many of the veterans are still dealing with trauma afterwards still. they have interpreters some veterans who would even credit their lives with an interpreter who was fire fights with them who rose to the challenge picked up a rifle and shot, you know, the taliban. and saved their lives who were still over there now being occupied by the taliban fearing that their family will get killed or they'll get killed any moment and -- you know, one of the priorities is going to be of our organization actually going to the congress is going to see if we can get allies people who fought a long time american troops during that war and who

we, you know, we have such a -- not just a responsibility to sort of help them in their next chapter of theirir lives. but like we owe it to them because we couldn't have done what we did over there without them. without the' as an interpreters. without them helping us navigate and get local intelligence on the ground. and so it's a real priority not just for the country and should be. but like the vets community feels a sense of responsibility help to get them out of taliban rule and to help them have some type of opportunity that, you know, american veterans have going forward especially in this great country. >> all right we're going back to phonelines now robert is in price, utah. another veteran go ahead, robert.an >> yes. if the goal of your organization is to leverage politically for veterans, i would suggest that

you -- reachug out to all of the vetern organizations bfw, the vietnam veterans, american leemgd. other suggestion i would have for the young lady is should look and study a group called the gar grand army of the republic they were union veterans from the civil war and they had a strangle hold politically on the government. for about 40 years, you should look and see how they did that. and i'll leave you with, with one personal experience with the v.a. i submitted a stack of paperwork that was aboutbm a half inch thick. seven years later, the v.a. got in touch with me and asked me to resubmit my paperwork anyway, thank you. >> all right. allison, first of all do you work with other veterans

organizations? >> definitely. i think not only do we have relationships with them. but from a generational perspective it is always been important for iraq and veteran veterans of america to make sure with we move that we're moving in a way that doesn't just advocate for our generation but also lift veterans up as well. but those are organizations that are great in their own ways in terms of how they're, you know, posture on the landscape so it is great to get not only their input but many iba members are members of those organizations too. so many of them are -- going to on the weekends and bfw post and many of those members even of the generation are members as well, in fact, we welcome that. itof is very -- you know, it's some of my best conversations have been with v.a. vets who are have passionate about making sure our generation is treated so much beaters than the vietnam

generation was and grateful for their partnership as we fight for veterans going forward. >> all right well we've been talking with army veteran allison jackwell incoming ceo of afghan and afghanistan veterans thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you for having me and for your viewers tuning in. >> c-span washington journal every day we're taking your calls, live on the air, on the day and we'll discuss policy issues that impact you. coming up tuesday morning, the president of the alliance for american manufacturing. scott paul discusses the state of manufacturing in the u.s. and impact of china economic and trade policies. then a foundation for the defense of democracy's talks new iaea saving in advance stages of building nuclear weapon watch washington journal live at 7 eastern tuesday morning on

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