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on your mind these days? >> i am worried about western civilization. the greatest civilization ever produced. if you care about liberty, women and their status in society, if you care about uplifting the court and creating non- bigoted societies and my favorite liberty, everything is useless. i do believe i subscribe to that. it is hard toal believe western civilization is threatened, very notion there is no better or worse, equity trumps merit so

the education department and long-term education in canada announced white colonial argue to maintain there is only one correct answer so everything we have built the list on which is truth, unity and there is a reality men are biologically look at our but you and beulah report and biological man and you are more of, advocating something that benefits attend how effective they have been

against reason and truth so there is real reason to worry, 45% according to a few leave the speech and hate speech. they don't understand don't leave in free speech. if you don't believe in speech you consider hate you don't even think clearly when they say that. if i something hate beach, i want it banned from they would be at least honest to say believe free speech but it doesn't mean they believe in free speech and they don't even know they don't believe in free speech. there is real reason to worry that's why the marriageer race, there is no barometer of social improvement in this country.

>> we have had some folks in the who talked about the current era in america has a national divorce. >> that is correct. two 95, i want to deny that. i gave a speech recently the difference between what you want to bleed between what we do believe. most believe it what they want to believe. i want to it's not a national divorce, that is but, issue alone, he believe it is fair to have biological men to compete against women and exposed to young girls in the locker room? not making up a hypothetical and if you protest, your kicked out of the ymca and i always wish we

could find the middle road, issue. is there such a thing as a man? a movie that withh them, what is a woman and people can't answer the question? it's not frightening to the vast majority of women? we are undergoing this rise on both sides and i pray that happen. >> who is that leader in your field? >> there are a number of candidates and i thought he was a great president and my first

choice and once nominated, i vigorously supported him. they magnificent job and that alone is reason. and he had four years, how 50 move to fascism such as and by the way, robert kennedy junior and vic vivek ramaswamy and nikki haley, the wonderful people who garner support and i know all of them will. i don't know bobby kennedy junior flow.

>> i will put the numbers on the screen. want to send a text message 202748. that started overcoming to get selfies with you and there was a real life of places i would ask, because you're talking about you show we are not talking about in secular society and the second one because you make and looked at the.

>> of god is because it smooth when i walk through the airport, there's no way to predict who will come for a sophie. if you show me a lot of people and some were heavily tattooed and some were white, some were young women, there's no question couldn't think who was a fan of mine and i'm about. >> the first guy was having. what are people goingt? to get from that? >> wisdom. there is no wisdom in any given institution. i asked, name the secular institution that teaches of the university, the stupid ideas in

society and almost no one can say about their childan they cae back from university wiser and more mature. sometimes i think they were inebriated , the great wisdom in western society happens in jerusalem and both shattered. the greatest repository was is the bible, however not well explained. the most important in my view about traditional judaism, five books offi moses -- i know biblical hebrew extremely well

and explain each books, genesis, exodus and deuteronomy think our best-selling right now and numbers is coming out next year. >> what about another? >> after this, i will write a book based on a series i believe missouri 35 years ago was resurrected by a friend of mine who is involved in the process and it was only young people and their feelings are not how they behave and their values. conflict between values and feelings, lectures and their

questions, that is the beauty of it and incorporate start challenges and a good example why there is wisdom and it tells you not to trust the heart. secular societies tomorrow follow your heart. my dear friend and producer of the radio show and have been doing this 25 years and the internet is now available, let's start university and i took this seriously and that was how it began and it is way bigger and

there i 55 minute videos that. huge program to teach them american values, true beauty and goodness and over a billion views a year according to google statistics over 605 years of is a section called unapologetic and one thing she says is it is a tragedy we are seeing. >> always show this irony, liberals don't and the left

believes this is is important and liberalism was race doesn't matter, race blind is a moral value in the university of california system is a list of micro christians and things people say this is chris is. it's like men give birth, they converted truth. the idea is to be colorblind. if i know you are black, i know you are right but do i know anything about you, your passions and interests? your family life, except your

white or if you're black so how can that be important? skin color and shoe color, your shoe color might tell me more about you than your skin color. there are black dorms on american campuses, black graduation exercises, it's racism, it is all from the left and the girls spoke for the left. >> dan from california, you are first of. go ahead. >> thank you for taking my call and i want to looking at. today is the book for. ...

some of the panel discussions yesterday thatda were on c-span were america's dark past. the left loves to talk bad about america. they hate unmerited or they hate the beginnings of americans this is what goes on every year at the ucla kind of book for one of the other ones issues he did a c-span -- >> we have a lot of callers. lecture from dennis prager on that issue. >> guest: universities try to suppress non-left-wing voices is a given. there's really nothing else to say. that is the fact. i'm delighted to be about it booktv that invited me, right? it is not the usc book fair here and if usc book there invited me they would get a big crowd but they don't care. i am a voice that shouldn't be

heard to give you an idea of how far the liberal left world has gone and liberal is not a left as explained by the united indus, do you know i had a call in the "l.a. times" a regular column that, the los angeles times and, what was to come in the '80s had column right and column left. they wanted both voices are on the opinion pages no longer pick same with the "new york times." i wrote for the olympic i dug up a piece written in the 1980s extolling what a wonderful talkshow host i was in the los angeles times? it is such a dramatic takeover of liberalism by the left, and the liberal just lay down and allowed the left to do this to isth a tragedy. >> host: the caller just mentioned one of the other discussions registered was about but man's.

i wanted to ask about this -- about book bands. this is a recent headline in the hill newspaper. nearly 1500 book bands implemented in the first half of this school year. should books be allowed to beal banned in school libraries? >> guest: books of always been banned in school libraries. it's such an odd question. of course they have who want unfettered access to books for eight-year-olds? it's such an odd accusation. it depends on what you're banning obviously. if you're banning things that are appropriate for that age group, that's a problem, but if you're banning things, as i said they've always been banned. they didn't have the playboy reader available in elementary school libraries. it's a dishonest attack. thank god we banned books that

schools.ay we always have. there's never been a time in american history when we didn't. the question is what books are you banning? when i read about some of the things that are taught to kids, why should an eight-year-old be exposed to sexual material in any direction, any direction? look, i have always opposed sex ed in schools, always from the beginning. it was as usurping of parental authority which as i write in my rational bible, books both in deuteronomy and exodus we have the ten commandments. the fifth commandment honor your father and mother is the only one with the report listed. so that you live long on the land that i give you, civilization cannot survive the death of parental authority. nazis, communists, and every cult they rob parents of their authority. that is what the left is doing

in america is taking authority from parents. >> host: frank is called in from savannah georgia. >> caller: yes, i've been a proud left liberal since my early 20s and i still enter i'm 68 now but more and more i see people on b my side of the spectrum acting like it actually lost their monster like marjorie taylor green, plaintiff people likegr that. there are prominent liberals like bill moore who speak out against it but she's one of the few brave ones. he has the power and money to do that. if i mayhe i would like to mentn one particular thing, you keep talking about like in modern art there there's, i wonder why you b keep harping on it. there's a sculpture, german sculpture of a policewoman in a museum and that indicative of the total decline of our civilization.

but now, there are a lot of others or worcester i can't describe them on air but do you know what i'm talking about? >> guest: yes, i do in fact. yes, i actually cite it in a footnote in my rational bible. the attack on beauty. i didn't develop that idea but much of modern art and intemperate art, is referring ho an award-winning sculpture in germany of a policewoman crouching and urinating, and even the puddle of urine is sculpted there was a gigantic exhibition in the netherlands aa few years ago covered seriously on the front page of the art section ofin the "new york time" it was a giant, this is their word, kurds, poop. larger than the "new york times" reporter and she seriously reported on it. this is what i mean by the war

on western civilization. if that's not a war on western civilization then there is no more. replacing shakespeare, the picture of shakespeare at the university of pennsylvania english department because he was a white european male, isn't the only issue with the english department about the best english. shouldn't that be it?h >> host: next call for dennis prager is from san mateo, california. >> caller:r: hello, dennis. i met you many, many, many, many years ago when you came to the congregation that i belong to in san c francisco, conservative. you and your partner talked about your first book called seven questions. >> guest: nine questions for you almost got it right. you missed two, it was eight

questions. maybe -- try to you really know. yes, she's right about that. it is now nine but it was eight then. >> caller: how do you celebrate, how do you -- what do you do on shabbat? >> guest: all right, fine. so this is sort of introduced question because i've written a lot on judaism, including that book which is still in print. so she wants to know how i observed this about. the sabbath did by the way, i will just say i have been inviting non-jews to my shabbat dinners friday night dinners for all of my life, and most of them are christian, some of them are just non-jewish, and in 30 years of doing this, 35 years, they all say, it's really touching to see, i wish we had this. that there is no tv, there is no radio.

we just talked at a table for three to four hours, then again on h saturday afternoon i go to synagogue in the morning and i teach torah there. my secret weapon is the sabbath, to take a day of the week away from the world. charlie clark is a christian will note the head of pp usa. he doesn't use a cell phone particularly since that's a result of dennis. dennis has influenced me to have a shabbat. and he's, if not christian. but from friday night to saturday night he leads the world, and actually talk about it in his lectures. it's one of the ten commandments per it's the only ritual of the ten commandments. i wish everybody had a sabbath ein america. >> host: a couple years ago dennis prager join booktv at hillsdale college in michigan for a three hour discussion with

students and with viewers. if you want to see that just go to booktv.org, type in his name dennis prager and you can watch all three hours of that. >> guest: that was something. >> host: let's hear from plainview new york. good afternoon. >> caller: yes, i. i just want to say mr. prater, i've also listened to on the radio. as a former yeshiva boy from brighton yeshiva, stan of auschwitz drivers, i just want to say that i agree with you wholeheartedly that the left is destroying our culture and i think most likely it's planned that i don't think my biden because i do think intellectually he's able to conceive of these ideas. the left employees something again to the nuremberg laws --

employees -- where they punish people by taking away their occupation, destroying their books come destroying their culture. what they want to replace that with i'm not sure. maybe you can s enlighten me trd what we believe there. thank you, sir try to let me quickly comment. i have an article, i write, have been writing a column every week for 20 years so there are thousands of them on the internet. i am a column of 32 differences between liberalism and leftism. all of you who are on the left should read it. to find it are you a liberal or a leftist. in either one of you who is conservative and as liberal relative to send them this piece. but i'll give you one example which i cited earlier. just ask them, are you for or against black graduation exercises at a college? if the answer c is yes, you know there on the left and that they think racially.

and that, that is worrisome. >> host: in 2012, the book still the best, why the world needs american values to triumph. if somebody picked up that book from 11 years ago, is still relevant? >> guest: i wouldn't change a worker would be nothing to change. it's three books about, it's about leftist values. it's about american values and it's about islamism. you get three books in one called still the best hope here. it explains the left and where we are out. thereth was no reason to put oua revised edition. a young woman named julie hartman with whom i do a podcast called dennis and julie, she's 23. there's a large age gap between us, and yet we are kindred spirits. she came at harvard. she just graduated harvard. she changed her conservatism by that book, still the best hope.

from what you been in lg time. do you have hollywood friends? >> guest: i never really did. i inordinately am uninterested in stardom. not for me and not about stars. when people call michelle, this is a cute thing, people have over the years a few times a year, dennis, if you could have dinner with anyone in the world, who would it be? and i tried to give that question very serious thought and then you know what i answer? my friends. >> host: what was your conversion in politics? >> guest: i never had -- welcome the only real, i was a democrat there i delivered jimmy enter jimmy carter i was longer gerald ford was a terrific press and different treatment but m tt was my last time or democratic president or that's what i was

raised and i believe that the republicans were for the big guy and democrats were for the little guy. one sentence that shows you you don't need to be five minutes, you can change a persons mind in one sentence. the ronald reagan line, government is a problem not the solution, and i realize of course that it. this country was founded to have a small government. because i had studied communism, that was my field of study at columbia university, the russian institute where i learned rushing to i went to communist countries regularly, and they of course with the genocide except for the nazis, they were the genocide, the genocide of the 20th century, 100 million civilians. and that i realized they were all done by big government. all of them. you can't have horrors without big government particular exception whether hutus massacre in ramadi. everything else necessitate the

government. so that was a. conversion but te first one was when i was in high school and i hurt somebody or read somebody said or wrote, poverty causes crime, which is a basic leftist wing believe. and i called my grandparents on my father's side were extremely poor, andit i thought, it's inconceivable to me that my grandfather would rape or my grandfather would mug or steal or let alone murder. dennis out there is no truth to that.rt poverty doesn't cause crime. crappy values causes crime. lack of self-control causes crime. a defective conscious-c causes crime. and that was the beginning, and the second big thing that i knew i wasn't a leftist but still thought i was a liberal was they were not anti-communist.

if you hate evil i don't hate communism you don't hate evil traveler working people listen to you later show? >> guest: all over the country but you can go to dennisprager.com click onto it if you don't get my short get all three hours you can go to prager and get all of my shows with our commercial anytime you want and, of course, is prager u and my columns in my books. i'm trying to touch people's lives tremor dennis prager as always we appreciate you being a booktv tractor peter, is come lately mutual. >> the c-span bookshelf podcast makes it easy for you to listen to all of c-span's podcast that featured nonfiction books in one place so you can discover new offers and ideas to each week were making it convenient for you to listen to multiple episodes with critically acclaimed authors discussing history, biographies, current events and culture from our signature programs about books, afterwards, booknotes+ and q and

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