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secure the southern border. kevin mccarthy's house republican i'm not truly been on board with this request yesterday was a senate minority leader mitch mcconnell top republican in the senate back this is strongly backed by senate democrats. but we have is unified senate in favor of this request and also in favor of nott shutting down the government began in september two very different story over the house perquisites as part down the various piecesl for small ukraine spending a wise a part of the package? like sure the white house once give more assistance ukraine and me spending a battle there have been restraints on how much you can raise against spending to getmore aid to ukraine lights through thesupplemental requesta one-way democrats in the white house had many senate republicans and mainstream republicans want to do this but it's crucial in the i house with the freedom caucus type republicans to say we should not be sending money to ukraine we should be focusing on the united states itself focusing on crises

and things of the border for instance. >> on to ask about the second part border security and part of that also how that relates to the disaster relief as well the books the white house is putting together bunch of things we can win over support the border security measures was a play by the white house to say look let's get bipartisan support so we can get some things that are priorities may be that will support some things are seen as democratic priorities. the disaster aid of course wildfires, and hawaii and elsewhere around the country with disaster relief is an important issue to replenish funds that fema has fema says anymore money to help deal to national disasters across the country.r >> as far as the time in the senate they are back from break what to expect a cease-fire's activity on the various measures? practice talk to say right now. the house is a key component here but what i would say is some expect supplemental request with a short term continuing to

look at the end of september time i in my opinion for action on this and effort. >> thank you for the same way say withcontinuing resolution tt it what's the danger of the government actually shutting down because a lack of money? laxity to be realistic there is a real danger of the government shutting down simply because there's a difference between the house and senate on this issue. we talked a bunch of centers left side assignments republican senators who told me they were concerned with the soft house republicans in the sense that house republicans are demanding some very partisan aspects in return for the roach are continuing resolution which would really only be to extend the deadline from the end of september until the middle of november were not looking to attack a full yet some are punting a little bit. some house republicans upset if i want to vote a continuing resolution i need it impeachment inquiry against president joe biden or i need defendant in the

jack smith special counsel things that will not happen, no way. we are looking at a big difference they said an intro they are more unified. bunch of house republicans who said a government shutdown that's okay with me if anything the programs are funded. >> outcomes of that shut down being okay, to either speaker mccarthy or minority leader mcconnell buy into that? >> to fight not mcconnell and say definitely not speaker mccarthy i think it mccarthy wants to govern he was to show the country house republicans only have a narrow majority they can lead the country they can govern he does own a shut down many members on the rights of the conflict to be okay with that he needs to thread the needle here. what he has done in past months is given some red meat to the republican members we saw that in the debt limit fight.

give some concessions on conservative wish list priorities in order to get a larger bill passed. >> mexico and our guest here to talk about the deadlines when it comes to funding issues if you just some questions related to that you can use on the line democrat (202)748-8000. republicans (202)748-8001. independence (202)748-8002. enter text s you can do that too at 202-7488003. in light of the various bills coming from the senate, what is the sales pitch speaker mccarthy has to make to various factions in the house? >> there actually making the opposite claim they are saying we need something in this bill to make us vote for they do not deceive the senate something they were to accept there is a very big diversion between house republicans and senate republicans on many issues. the senate republicans by and large are more willing to play ball democrats. with c mcconnell do that and

more establishment friendly republicans do that house republicans that we have a majority in the house we are an equal branch of this congressgr why should we give in? the sales pitch for mccarthy will be look who want to keep the government open because we want to keep our majorityrs of e voters think were shut down rtparty that might hurt us next year. maybe i'll give you in impeachment vote opening up an inimpeachment investigation at e impeachment itself the say hey let's vote on this thing which many caucus republicans has a thinkmportant for us we joe biden has done x, y, z we get into that later. that's as an acceptable compromise for them to fund the government for short period of time for. >> what is the preparation as far as the house and senate doing actually preparing for shut down? works for not quite there yet i would say we are early september

they're not serious conversations happening about that now. but what i would say back to your last question house mccarthy pitching it he will say in addition we want more time to pass very conservative spendingn cuts fiscal year 2024 year ilspending bill. that might be his rhetoric you guys want to cut spending that's a huge for house republicans we can get there but we do more time to pass or appropriation bills to the house so far very few of pass of the house and the senate looking for a couple next week request kathleen's in regan mississippi. she trudges on her democratic lineun a punch bolt news kathlen thanks for calling go ahead. >> the problem is we should not be working on daylight savings to until dark. we should not have to go get payday loans on people at work in education system driving a

bus getting paid monthly. it is sad they are cutting off everybody on medicaid the medicaid expansion. we are here. this is goingth global stop killing us and our children, thank you. >> that medicaid funding was mentioned there. that is something democrats have tried to claim republicans are trying to cuta that's a campain issue they say republicans are going to shut down and wreak havoc on programs vulnerable americans reliant expect that rhetoric and those arguments as to be closer to a government shutdown democrat argument is this shutdown has the biggest impact on the ones that have the government programs. >> republican line from teresa.

teresa and tennessee good morning. >> caller: good morning how are you?we >> host: i'm good how about you? >> a few points. personal i do not like the way joe biden is extorting this country saying you either approve the ukraine funding you do not get disaster aid. it's like a black mail he knows i do not support funding ukraine as much as he does. he's going to throw that disaster aid and with that and border security you really think joe biden is going to secure the border? what does he need more money for border security for? another thing on kevin mccarthy is republicans cannot get rid of kevin mccarthy we will vote him out. then having kevin mccarthy going with republicans doing everything to bite at once.

and then mitch mcconnell once every penny that joe biden said for the $40 billion. and now you know why joe biden said i hope mitch mcconnell stays healthy. he needs some blog to get the stupid bill. it is ridiculous. it isit read dick gillis. $700 to the people who lost their lives in hawaii? is just crazy. so what color you put a lot out for our guest. schedule couple interesting points with disaster relief. my twin the two things together they would support clean bill with disaster relief but they would not support ukraine funding thisyt is not anything w in washington, parties and politicians to build a coalition of votes. i do think the white house might have a stronger hand here.

much into ukraine they're thered in the united states. many smart political at play there. it's interesting the cap mccarthy points clearly a lot of angst among the republican base. colors like that in mccarthy's own conference are not totally happy with his job performance. he's worried about a revolt the a motion to vacate is always throwing up in these instances. to oust if he doesn't get his priority. it's a very difficult job mccarthy has to protect his vulnerable incumbents. >> and bill in ohio independent line hi bill.

>> caller: hi. if i got that information or something. you are talking about theo not requesting more funding. we heard on a report theme that respondents were staying in five star resorts and wasting money it seems like. why can they stay in a more, i do not not a treatment more inexpensive hotel? >> i am can't think that i'm not sure. lethe problem with the money is larger than a certain hotel. to respond to these disasters is $12 billion the government is requesting for fema. a larger picture here in terms of responding to the devastating wildfires. click 68 billion is the actual figure. again it's tied to that othergu thing you have been talking about. max:x: (202)748-8000 for

democrats (202)748-8001 for republicans. that independence 202-7488202. max: i want to play you a little bit for the press briefing yesterday talk about the supplement request the white house desire to see that happen. given their case for it here's a bit of what she had to say. >> we ask for today is basically anomalies that so they called they're called cr anomalies to be very clear about that and to give you little bit of rundown. on august 10 we set congress a supplemental request for critical emergency fundingng is you just asked. that includes funding for disaster relief, $12 billion as you heard from the administrator and also from liz moments ago supporting the people of ukraine. in combating the fentanyl crisis which is all incredibly important today omb set a technical package to congress called anomalies to avoid

disruptions of the government programs during a continuing revolution. that included adjustment to wick the governmental nutrition program for women, infants and children. without this adjustment states would be forced tot, implement waiting lists present women and children to gogo hungry and pushing vulnerable families into poverty so for some clarity this is what congress should pass that should pass both eve supplemental request and the technical package as i just laid out with a continued resolution to prevent a government shutdown. this is something congress can do they can prevent a government shutdown. they need to prevent a government shutdown. but i just listed out are critical critical programs that americans across the country, american families certainly need. >> estimate last week not yesterday but go ahead. >> one aspect i want to touch him with the white house press secretary said was government agencies need special assistance during the resolution. if there is one.

this is not that i had so well to run the government. most outside service would agree you want ideally a year-long funding package at the end of a fiscally of the acceptance we will have at the resolution there's not going to be agreement on the full year. not by the end of september the acknowledgment of how difficult it is at a divided washington to get these packages passed. but even all the agencies will tell you that's not ideal for them.y they have full asks they are putting forward in fy 2024 process that are not going to be met in a continuing resolution which is a a short term stopgap measure. >> democrat line from jay from indiana, go ahead your next up. >> thank youou c-span. my comments is. [inaudible] sig. government is the problem. [inaudible]

to today's gop who just refuses to govern or participate in ouru government. they are there to turn off the lights and padlocked the front door, walk away and shut it down. my question for the guest is, in today's gop what is the incentive for them to actually govern? and how does the gop this serious and moderate republicans how do they emerge from this in some kind of consensus or they actually work with democrats or we can have compromise? it seems like they are stuck we don't want to govern we hate government feedback loop. it just keeps feeding over and over again. >> thank you collar.

>> guest: that color question and republican conservative republicans come to washington as part of their campaign pitch we want to shrink government want to curtail the role the federal government and our everyday lives would you cut spending to programs and agencies which the mission does not align with our values. that's a freedom caucus they are pushing for. that does stand in stark contrast to democrats who by and large want to increase funding for the programs and shape them and wait the lens of their values. they talkedal of more establishd republicans again connect to thd house republicans senate republicanbl dynamic which we touched on a lot of punch bowl news. the house has said when they pass the funding levels during the debt limit, mccarthy came back and said those we need to be lower than that that's what house republicans are trying too do in their appropriations is go lower than that cap date set.

they take note we're going all the way up to them there is not the same desire for severe spending cuts and the senate as was in the house. >> brick two things before continuing calls unrelated to deadlines how to senate republicans feel about minor leader check mitch mcconnell? alexis was working on the syndicate back from recess by and large it is to be said senate republican conference stands behind mcconnell. including top leaders of allies to be in line to replace him should he leave the senate. all saying they trust leader mcconnell they trustee is in good health they cited this doctor's note the capitol attending physician wrote yesterday it said mcconnell is not suffering from a seizure disorder among other things. a couple dissenting voice on the right wing of the gop conference grandpa was one member spoke to

yesterday he is a doctor ophthalmologist he does not by saying the fitness of the -- the health of the leader is important he is concerned as well as tommy tuberville and other conservative senate republicanep said he is concernd about his health request thank you for bringing him up that's one of things we talked about fell by the wayside a little bit but as far as center taber bills military appointments is that still place? >> is very much in place. as brett was brought to the floor this week is entering september the end of the month is the endef of the chairman jot chiefhi of staff's tenure ends n the end of september's replacement brown is up for nomination stills not been voted on by the senate.

what'sns happening now is republicans are saying bring around the very important military position of the full senate floor for a vote. democrats are saying no if you do that they'll set a precedent in all these other nominees taber bill is blocking. does not support the policy of paying for service members to travel to get abortion care. democrats are insisting although the position the joint chief of staff has brought it to the floor it's an important position democrats worry about pulling it into these other nominees will not be clear by unanimous consent regards to what degree can they align themselves with the position he's taken what is doing? >> is initialing disconnect a lot of centers say publicly they agree with this ideology in the scent they do not support the pentagon abortion policy. a number of senior republicans of said included leader mcconnell he should not be

blocking all these military positions and promotions there's a readiness problem but so far to the state note and gop leadership have exerted the pressure necessary you might say to change center taber bills mind. honestly the rhetoric is not changing anything in the hold on hundreds of positions continue progress or michelle as the new york republican light you are on with max a punch bowl news regrets hi guys good morning. i used to be a democrat from new york but i switch my party. here's the thing there's three things i want to bring up. first off mitch mcconnell dianne feinstein's health, fetterman'ss health, this is an issue. it amazes but does not speak out about anything else. these are people have their finger on the nuclear button and

it's okay t they cannot make a full sentence question what they might have brain damage and exactly what is happening. second, taber bill is on the right thing. we shouldd not be in following our military readiness in this ideology that's abortion on demand. third, there connecting for our citizens and our people linked to ukraine who is spending our money over there on yachts and everything else but we have 1700 students70 up to 2000 still missing in hawaii. not one media outlet cover separate right wing, left wing, side wing any of it these children are missing. mccarthy was standing right there what the reporter was asking him, and to white why have these children applied for

school? do you want to know why they were all killed in the fire. okay were going to leave it there. >> i think the point about mcconnell's health and the health of politicians i would like to push back a little bit about the media covering otherns politicians and their healthy thing dianne feinstein health is been an area coverage for capitol hill report is how she is often unable to identify where she is. she's not sure how to vote without prompting aha staff thas a major issue to fairpoint mcconnell's not the only politician elderly in congress on the only politician suffering from health episodes is well known the ages of the members of congress are well above the median age of this country the leaders of this country. they are many times in their 80s you see that with the president, you see that with mitch mcconnell as well. >> issue involving senator fiennes and the result that she still in congress? she actively involved? she still issues actively

involved. to be fair she's taken a backseat in recent weeks with major new developments but what we saw just before recess in a prominent episode she was in a senate judiciary committee hearing. she was called, on, she started giving a longer speech in this it just vote yes she wasn't sure what part of the meeting it was was it wasg clear in that issu. she's not running for reelection let's beg clear in 2024 she wil and if she doesn't leave before that. that is the main update with her future. mcconnell is a different story is not announce what's happening next i believe in this moment in time is not going to announce a plenty stopping to serve in congress. >> will he speak with others about his health? it's not sure this is senate gop lecture there's a weekly lunch she will confirm he will address reporters following that lunch. that was the venue when the

first episode happened on camera if you will remember he froze for about half a minute had to be actually by staff but then came back later in the press conference and answer the question. is the first time he'll be facing questions in the d.c. press corps following lice episode ine kentucky he will certainly be askedbo about this episode. and he addressed it yesterday briefly during a speech on the senate floor he alluded to it as an incident that got a lot of media of attention but nothing were trying to make light of it which is the mcconnell way. let's hear from larry on the virginia democrat line. >> yes and my aunt? once you are on go-ahead. >> okay. both sides of congress failed to do whatever it takes to, you know do something. but what i have to say is this, people who believe in democracy and freedom they better get up

and smell the roses because for some reason they think donald trump is some kind of a messiah or something like that he can wave his hand and the economy and everything will be alright. i will tell you right now at this time right now they believe in some sad sorry people. >> okay that's larry from virginia let's hear from gerry and floor independent line your next up. >> good morning. >> good morning. you are on go-ahead please. >> i was just wanting to comment about joe biden and his policies compared to trumps. joe biden for some reason he is growing on me. some of the policies and decisions in the world to him meeting with other leaders and everything. it's just unbelievable. and trump really, really needs to be reelected he was growing

on me but now is not i was just wkidding. check you later. >> okay that's gerry in florida turning to the house for second regarding president by an impossible question of an impeachment inquiry, expand on that, where is that as of today? speaker mccarthy's been quite vocal over the august recess saying moving forward in the direction of opening the inquiry what exactly when he would be impeached for is not entirely clear as of now. any connectionne between joe biden's son hunterr biden's crie has not been established. what has been established is then vice president joe biden had a greater involvement hunter biden's business deals and he had present let on the extent to which we know was revealed by testimony i would've huntere biden's former associates is hunter biden will be would be of this business partners at a meeting, hugh culp's father, joe biden put on speakerphone they would not chat about business that has been established there

through talk about the weather or other chitchat stuff is how it was described. that link betweenen hunter's private deals and his father was then and offices vice president is a concern to republicans and goes beyond with previously known. this has been termed by the republicans as corruption, lies by joe biden. that might form us impeachment y,inquiry. what did you buy to do? what did he say publicly and privately right now it looks like mccarthy's moving in the direction of holding a vote on an impeachment inquiry. you have an inquiry it's pretty likely in my mindel we move to impeachment how this all plays out is interesting because i am not sure this moment in time mccarthy has the votes ton. impeach biden at the same time does he have enough votes to open the inquiry? if you have the inquiry and then say it's fine right? the inquiry vote is very key. >> where is that resistance then

from the house republicans or whatever factions where is it coming from question. >> 18 house republicans represent districts joe biden one on the 2020 presidential election is the 18 most vulnerable members of cap mccarthy's conference. this is bad politics for them in many ways. you do not want to be rerunning in a district that voted for joe biden and talk about impeaching him simply because that's not the issue these vulnerable not to focus on then. want to talk about the economy, inflation, they want to criticize the biden ministration yes but the fear is focusing too much on impeaching president biden somewhat more moderate republicans as partisan bill be compared to the far right which is the last thing you want to do in a tough race against democrats progress house oversight committee chair cromer consistently says cs evidence or at least what he would say is evidence about alleged wrongdoing what is he basing that on?

>> i think a lot of it is dealing with that business connection the elected business connection between joe biden hunter biden. right now there's still no evidence that joe biden metal door was involved in hunter but his business deals what they are trying to do say the president unwas untruthful many times he said definitively i know nothing about hunter's business. that claim has been called into question given these phone calls when he's talking they're paid what they are hoping to still get more information as this goes on. right now i would argue this not the flaming gun. they're trying to connect also joe biden's foreign policy decisions as vice president with hunter biden's business deals at the same time. this is still something which is not been definitively proven yet the savages are trying to go down essentially saying joe biden did x and x country hunter biden was doing deals in the country and has helped. >> assist carol in alexandria

virginia democrat line. >> hello yes, thank you for taking my call. i was calling in regards to tommy tupper bill you made that comment earlier. i am not sure how he is allowed to bring religious views into government. this seems to be a reoccurring theme with thee republicans. they need to remove their religious views. many of us do not feel the same way we should not be forced to feel the samesa way. l that's all i like to say for today, thank you, thank you forr taking my call. >> us the reality of the senate for the interesting dynamic one member of the senate can hold up a number of nominees single-handedly and he is blocking and saying for largely noncontroversial nominees because the abortion politics one member in the senate to throw a wrench in the plan of leader schumer was a clear nominee. >> bill is an idaho republican line.

>> hi, how are you guys doing today? my question is he seems to know a lot about the inside of the democrats and the republicans are doing to try to get a senate bill passed for the budget. i would like to know if the government did shut down. give the opinion on what would happen first about the government services i am sure would shut down if you're twanting to get government services with the congressman be shut down? if it were where they just pass a bill to have it reinstated at a later date so they would still get paid when not get hurt at all? if the government did shut down a lot of the public is going to get hurt very bad. they are not going to look at the refunds of the money just by asking for it.

when the government does pass this budget bill to get more money, how are they going to get their money? they're just going to print more. why are taxes even be used to help the people instead of just the government? we went thank you color. >> guest: of the government shut down only the most essential services to bebe funded. republicans argue this is worth it to extract spending cuts down the line that's the main argument shown by the policies of the shut down is the reason a group of concerned house republicans are willing to shut down they say bring it on. they feel it's worth it in the short term to cause a shut down in order to get a more favorable 2024 spending bill passed that reduce the government debt. they say it's worth the short term. of a shutdown to nonessential services democrats will say

things like the shut down you cannot simply say people living paycheck to paycheck will payg you back later that's not going to work. >> washington state is work carol is democrat line. >> hello, good morning. >> you are on go-ahead. >> yes. my comments is that i am a 65-year-old elderly person. i am on a fixed income. fixed is the word. and at 65, people are forced to be on medicare. i was onre medicaid and now i'mn medicare. medicaid is no longer an option. i cannot afford to pay for my medication.

there's quite a few things i have to take to keep going. i have been thinking that i would probably be better off fighting medicare because it's not affordable. i have to pay my monthly dues 164 a month for parts a and b. and i cannot afford my medication. i have to pay out-of-pocket now. it's better to be on medicaid and medicare. so what can the presidents were also -- i am a can situate of governor inslee and of president

biden. what can we do to make a medicare affordable? i mean it is really hurting me. >> carol from washington state. she talked in large about that medicare/medicaid issue be doing to respond? what's one thing we've seen recently this past couple weeks is medicare is led to negotiate drug prices which was passed last summer which was a huge issue for democrats are pushing his policy for long time. the government can negotiate with drug companies to try to reducedi prices of medication currently there is only limited list of medication at the moment they're trying to expand that but that's a major victory for people to lower the cost of healthcare. this was opposed by many drug companies but that is one instance the federal government is trying to lower costs. king a punch will not "washington jour" continues. host: joining us now is tom frank who