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[inaudible] >> this family over here. the terrorists -- >> not just to just shoot the people. [inaudible] let me show you. baby, the mothe daughter.

just terrible. [indiscernible] i will show that a just a second, i want to show you something. there was a un-american family here. that family of three every friday use to [indiscernible] that's what they did. that family was slaughtered in their safe house. we got inside to find the body,

the father was wrapped up in the entire family was inside. this is a picture from the living room. the guys who killed them, the guys who killed them. a couple of years ago, [indiscernible] >> we can take the cameras down. >> cameras down. >> just not from the back. these are some of the atrocities and people who were murdered. 12-year-old babies, explosions, shots. she was shot as well.

one of the other things they did was to bind their hands and they shot them and they burn them as well. a lot of the bodies were burnt. and a lot of the bodies were burned. what made it even worse, difficult [indiscernible] trying to protect them. this is also the binding of the hands. the binding of the hands. this is something we founded in one of the vehicles here. issued by the ministry of transportation of the israeli

government. so he had a pass. the same vehicle came in here for example. >> these people came in here, they forced the residents of gaza to come out and work. in the head maps of the village so they knew where everyone lived and they were telling hamas where you can find weapons, where you can find security rooms. >> yep, made it efficient. >> a lot of the other locations

are further back. here there were 12. they were all killed, they were all killed. >> they had some long rockets. >> her parents lived here and were murdered here on that horrible saturday in her house, and the bomb shelter. her father tried protecting himself. we recently saw the two magazines.

he used one, then the other. until the last bullet, he protected her mother. and they can only discover the body of her mother. three weeks later i want to emphasize if i may that this armor effect of that that happened on saturday the seventh of october affected every single person in israel. there is not an israeli that i know who has not been affected by this and i want the world to see what happened here and then decide what to do. thank you for coming. mr. christie: keep it up. the united states supports you and are with you. >> for the first time.

>> the unit that identifies victims, this unit is full of volunteers. they saw some of the most horrific sites that the world has ever seen before. >> i have seen in my life a lot of stories. people killed, buses blown up many years back and they are always there. the army saying all of the guys were coming in and out, in and out all the time. full-time working.

i will tell you a small story. they came to the house. >> on saturday? >> still shooting all the time but the houses, they would try to get into the housing. and we came into the house, we walked into the house and i was coming with a group of guys and every house is worse then the next one. we go to the house and say to ourselves -- everyone is happy.

♪ >> hits you right away. and we got shocked. i cannot describe it, it look like a bonfire. something was standing in the middle and when i looked right away i saw little kids holding their parents. a mother and a father. and there was a family in a circle, the circle of life. we as members, we have the

memorial of being together and laying them down. this is a small incident. mr. christie: just one example. >> they did it over and over. >> people ask me all the time and they say that is not my job. my job is to make sure there is a proper burial. >> bodies of young ladies where stripped naked. why i cannot imagine. >> she was shot in the back of her head and when we turn her over to lay her down she had a bomb.

thank god i did not blow up. mr. christie: right. >> this is the house right here. on friday we brought them to this house and one was in one corner, another was in this corner. he had a knife going through his head and a piece of skoal on a hammer. the way that it happened over here, not only here, all around. it's not just one place. everywhere you look around gaza you realize that it is that gazans.

you can see the house right here. >> this is the residence of the young people. just a month and a half ago residence in their 20's were living here, sharing small communities, sharing life basically. but now this is mostly how it looks like. this was committed on october 7 by hamas because hamas initiated the attack with around 2000 terrorists that infiltrated israel at several points and by palestinian jihad organizations, terror organizations in roughly 1000 residents of gaza that came in with knives, hammers and

committed some of the most horrific atrocities committed on the ground. what israel does to bring security to their residence is the number one goal and mission of any state, secure the lives of our citizens and we are here from time to time. people say cease fire. if we cease fire now, they win. these people killed so many of us, they win. and terror organizations throughout the world are watching what will israel and what will the world respond to what happened on october 7, so we are very fortunate that u.s. the governor come here to be

with us and stand alongside americans and israel. we are very fortunate to have you as our closest and most important ally in the world and we thank you for that. mr. christie: thank you, thank you. i came here because i wanted to see this for myself. we will support you from media or public sources, being able to walk through neighborhoods like this and see what was done and the people still able to walk still one month later is something that i think the american people need to hear directly from someone who has seen it themselves. i felt that way going to ukraine three months ago. and more than anything else i want the people of israel to know that there are hundreds of

millions of americans who stand with them through the atrocities that were committed and in the future we need to stand shoulder to shoulder with israel. the american people and the people of israel. leaders in our country need to see this for themselves because just from this you cannot really understand it and so, i just had to go back to the u.s. and talk about this regularly so that the american people who are being asked to sacrifice and help israel financially and militarily will know that what they are doing is not only a noble effort but also what friends do for friends. america has no greater friend in

the world then israel so we need to press that friendship in times of peril like this. that i that's why i'm here. i appreciate the speakers bring all the time he spent with me today. i appreciate all the menme and women of the idf and the police who are continuing to restore security and safety to the people of israel. they deserve their territorial integrity. they deserve to live in safety and security, and tose know that this type of awful, awful attack will not be replicated. so i appreciate what the speaker is doing and eyewall -- mostly the people of israel who defend the nation like no other people defend theirhe nation. personal sacrifice, i i know y are represented of some of the people of israel who are willing to bear arms and stand up for

the country. so it's an honor. >> at this time you come here is a demonstration of friendship, a demonstration off leadership. and on behalf of the israelial people, we thank you. >> thank you. >> governor, why do you think thousands of americans are taking to the streets right now calling for a cease-fire? what is your message to them? >> my best to them is come to israel, see it for yourself. i think if they did, you wouldn't change of the mind but you would change some. i do think though that despite the speaker and i talked about this earlier today, despite some of the protest use intercountry in some of the conflict to see on some of our college campuses, i think it's a vast minority of the american people and i think from my experience in campaigning and speaking to folks in my own home state,

people understand that this is not a choice for america that this is an obligation. but there areob those who just believe kind of what they see and what they hear, whether it's from professors on the campus or a certain members of leadership in the united states congress. and i think they are wrong and it's incumbent upon people like me and others to stand up and say i have been here and i can tell you what i saw, not what you are being told happen. i saw it. >> what do you think of what your reaction to all the calls of putting pressure on israel to stop the fighting in gaza? >> well, i said this back in the u.s. and i will repeat it here, that it'll think it's the role of the united states to instruct the state of israel on how to provide safety and security for its people. and i think we can give advice

as friends, give advice in private. but publicly, my gut is that we need to stand with israel. when you see what happened here, you know it could happen again. and i think it's not only protecting the safety and security of the people now but it is also about reining hamas' ability to do this again. and that's not easy. there are going to be unfortunate deaths in the course of that. but i remind people all the time that if there was a cease-fire -- there was a cease-fire. it was hamas who violated the cease-fire, , not israel. and if hamas did not enter this neighborhood on october 7, and cause the carnage that they did, ,they would be peace today both here and in gaza. so we must remember who is w really responsible for this. and can't ask israel to stand out if they believe there is

still a legitimate, violent threat against them and their people. i think there's no question that there is, so they must continue to fight until they have created thatig capability to a point whe they can save to their people come back and labor safely and securely. until that comes i don't think calls for a cease-fire make any sense and also forget the history of the fact that before october 7 there was a cease-fire in place and it was hamas who broke it, not israel. >> tell your story if you would. >> i'm not -- [inaudible] we saw the missiles and rockets and they told us to clear the premises, they cover. whichever you choose. and then --

[inaudible] so they taught us that, educate citizens when the our bombs and rocket you have to take cover and stay safe and not move. [inaudible] they shot at a point at the party. we took a turn and we went -- i ran toward like my home because one of my friends lives near gaza. so we drove first in that direction, and at some point

there was some kind of blockage. everyone was just turning around. we asked why, and they said there's blockage. we don't know why. so we just continued on as well. there was a bomb shelter on the side of the road. we got out of the car to go inside. we went inside. it was very crowded we decided to try to get out again. on the road, there were no cars so we knew something was going on. we went back to the bomb shelter. i decided to go in the back of the shelter. i sat on the ground while a lot of people were standing. not long after i got in a bomb shelter we hear car stop

outside. and then they come in and they scream at us, a lot of words i can't remember. they shot everyone and i was sitting in the back. in that moment they shot me in the knee it went in and went out. all the bodies all the people that were shot were running towards where i was, and i was very quiet. [inaudible] they all found the and then -- i wish his hiding under everyone to for a while. and then, i don't know, what happens after that i can remember everything but somehow i got from the back of the shelter to the front of the shelter. they did steel bodies.

[inaudible] i guess that's how i got to the front of the shelter. but they came back again and shot again. they threw a about eight grenad. one dad jumped on the grenade. and then my friend, she took the grenade and threw it out. in the last hour -- [inaudible] i don't even know what was going on, and then she died. when she died, her whole upper body felt when the and i was like tense the whole time, so she just fell on my knee, and my knee -- it was very painful.

.. i try to get her off me but i could not because she was very heavy. i kept on trying. we try to keep each other awake. and after seven hours of being there they came to the truck with handguns. they went through barriers. and out of about 40 people they killed about 12 people. and then i was brought here. [inaudible]

[inaudible] [inaudible] it is a challenge. mr. christie:.

>> what happened in the shelter, and don't remember. i had to explain what i don't know what they tried to push it off. it goes away. how is the rest of your family >> my dad is sensitive, he cries a lot. he cried a lot. my mom has been [indiscernible] 24/7.

[indiscernible] my sister is in los angeles, she is very worried. >> it feels like you've got to protect your home. mr. christie: yeah, yeah. [indiscernible] >> stuff has been going on for a while. this has just been crazy. either we are losing it or we are going to the right side and as american citizens we had a lot of friends abroad. i'm from america, grew up in

canada and to hear the voices that go against what is happening. as a soldier i can take people shooting at me. that is what i'm there for. but when you hear a story like hers and you hear people came in the bomb shelter and shot innocent people that are hiding from bombs or shot and rpg at an ambulance. or seeing a tent and throwing a grenade inside. you ask yourself -- you feel like the world has lost that moral compass of knowing what is wrong in the world. mr. christie: i was watching a video that the government put together and i talked to my wife

afterwards and i said worse then the inhumanity was the joy that they showed, that is the part that is so foreign to me. seeing inhumane acts done and a lot of times unfortunately. but this was joyful. and the bomb shelter, what their reaction was, the people who came in and some of the videos i saw, they are laughing and calling their families and friends and bragging that people were killed. seeing that pleasure [indiscernible] >> no, no. we saw families that were set one in front of the other, parents in front of their children. you could see fingers cut off, eyes gouged out.

tortured all over their bodies and then executed in front of everyone. and then they sat down and ate off their dinner table. after we got in, we saw the bodies, we saw the dinner table and what happens. you don't understand -- everyone started saying that they are not human and that is the problem. they are human and they are human and their living amongst us and inside us. they are absolutely human and that is the scariest part. humans in this world right next door to us can still do this. that was the kind of thing that changed our reality. there is no safety. mr. christie: one of the things i saw was two young boys ran

into a safe room in the terrace cayman and through a grenade in there and kill the father and wounded one of the two children. the father is dead and they go to the refrigerator and start drinking from the refrigerator. there livestreaming. at the end of the day they enjoyed watching young children suffer that are crying for their father, asking where their mother is. and anybody knows what it is like to be a parent, that is a complete nightmare. and because i think some of the stuff you see happening, there

need to be strong voices that say i have seen it. people hear what they want to hear, believe what they want to believe. but i saw it. >> what is going on now in the u.s. is we don't know [indiscernible] do you think it is enough for you to see the reality here to change the world? mr. christie: it is a start, people just have to do it. i think if you're leading the country you have to get advice and counsel to the government here. it is easy enough to think that

-- when you're here and i was walking through today, it makes sense. it is unbelievable. you go into some of these homes where the floors are soaked with blood because of what happened there. and there is confusion and people play on that confusion. part of my job is to tell exactly what i saw. i cannot thank you enough for being willing to share with me and my friends here. it is part of what you have to try to do to get people to understand what happened to you. is the idea that everyone here was affected. whether you are wounded physically or the trauma that happens here, i do not think it

is enough but i think it is a start. we can inspire other people to come and talk to folks like you and experience the things that i experienced today. people do not understand the stakes. heavy losses. i feel like as americans it is our job, it's not only the right thing to do, it is a friendship that has to be maintained. and when you are at peace it is easy. this is when it is hard to be friends. and in the states most college campuses the overwhelming majority of americans, hundreds

of millions of americans do not have any doubt about what we need to do. that can change really quickly. >> especially at universities. mr. christie: antisemitism [indiscernible] i think it is spurred by the faculty there with their point of view. they shove this point of view down your throat. you tell your kids you go there to learn but this is some of what you are learning. and people are not standing up and saying this is not acceptable, it is not true. and you know we know who you

are. thank you both. [indiscernible] it is not acceptable to do anything other than that. and we come home and talk about this. your partnerships, your stories are important because i was in ukraine at three months ago and i saw very similar things. families that where executed. exactly. [indiscernible] hamas had russian weapons,

ukrainian weapons. >> you can see where they're coming from. mr. christie: [indiscernible] can't get involved. they are all evil and they hate us. they know that the thing that will incite americans the most is to come after israel. they want to scare us from doing that. >> we're running out of time. thank you very much for coming. mr. christie: thank you folks. you are courageous. [indiscernible] >> if you want to take a picture with the governor i think he has

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