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collectively, climate change? >> what leaders will be there? >> the u.s., kamala harris is going to be. joe biden is not going to attend. >> what about leading countries, those who lead the world, will they be there? >> i have not looked att the lit of who will or will not be there. i expect a lot of leaders to be a. >> why is this meeting happened this week and what is the goal? >> every year negotiators gather to talk about how we can collectively work on this. this year in particular is called the global take because they are trying to assess the
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purchaseth agreement.am >> loss and damages, explain. >> missions agreed to set up loss and damage, and fund for countries faced the worst change of climate especially those who are lower income and rebuild infrastructure. this morning they agreed to a framework setting up the fund, it's hosted temporarily by the world bank developing nations. >> we are talking about climate change in the summit that begins today. we want you involved in thehe conversation. democrats (202)748-8000. republicans 2-027-488-0001.
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independence (202)748-8002. texas, include your first name, city and state (202)748-8003. join us on facebook, as well as x but the post and handle dan wj. 2015 paris agreement, the goal was to limit global temperatures to 1.5 degrees celsius, where are we in reaching this goal? >> good news is with made progress, a report said protecting to increase by 2030 about 16% by the paris agreement and now only by 3% but is still an increase in we are still not on track toth hit that. >> why not? >> there's still progress to be made in eliminating emissions and fossil fuels are the main driver and they drove them down
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and like agriculture. >> what did the united states agree to? how close are we to these goals? met the u.s. agreed to the same things will work together to try to keep the world under the 1.5 degrees celsius a woman. emissions by 2030. >> what is the administration doing to reach that goal? >> first of all, they have had ambitious climate legislation and the reduction act, there are major subsidies for renewables that are expected to bring fossil fuels to the grid and they put forward rules, a rule that would bring up electric vehicle shares.
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>> remind viewers what happens because they have seen the headlines recently the national climate assessment by the new york times, dyer warm on about their conditions. we've seen headlines about the warmest year on record so what is at stake? >> climate change is exacerbating extreme weather. it will make it much worse and hurricanes more intense, drought and the tip you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube and it's hard to get ice back to mecca law is recorded about top 28 dubai, why are they hosting it and what is the criticism? the mark is aan collocated procs
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in terms of moving around the world to find a host country but a is on one side, one is fossil fuel and they put the ceo chart of the conference. uae appointed the head of the company. guest: i'm not sure if i set it right, but he is the head of the national oil company, he is also chair of the national renewables company. he is very much in those worlds and there have been some accusations that he is 20 use his position to try to broker deals to bolster both of those companies. host: at this summit? guest: yes, that is the accusation. he has denied that. host: how long will the summit last? guest: it is good to go for
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another week or two through mid december and in the weeks ahead, we will see a lot of speeches and commitments and pledges for things that businesses or stakeholders are doing to combat climate change. the second half is going to shift more towards negotiations, things they can agree to. some things we might look to our if the world will agree to ramp up renewable capacity or if they agree to some phased out phase out of fossil fuels. host: walter is up first in this conversation, st. john's, arizona. caller: good morning. i have two questions. the first question is, rachel, what would be the three top groups that are having the most impact on positively affecting solutions for climate change and
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what they are doing? the second question has to do more or less with the government of the u.s. and climate change. there are about 240,000 separate cities, counties, states, government oppositions -- government operations and collectively they have a 40 between dollars in investment capital as a conservative figure. how much effort is being placed to utilize and influence the investment needed to affect climate change from the government entities and do you know a possibly how much invested by local governments? host: you had some very specific questions.
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when you say the top groups, what do you mean? caller: top three. host: what do you mean by groups? caller: groups working with climate change to positively affect an outcome. host: rachel. caller: -- guest: that is a tough question. i am not sure i could name a lot of ngos doing a lot of advocacy and work in communities to help make those communities have fewer emissions and bolster them and make them more as it to climate change. i don't feel equipped to say who is the best group. there is an effort to mobilize capital. atlas commits from the private sector to help out with the climate problem.
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host: -- was in lauren boebert's district talking about what his administration is doing to invest in clean energy jobs. here is what he had to say. [video clip] pres. biden: when i think climate, i think jobs. that is what climate is about. that is not the end of the story . i signed a law combating the that of, change -- combating the effects of climate change. it makes wind towers in america and bolsters clean energy projects to use those wind towers to power american homes and an additional $200 million to expand the facility here.
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because of the investment -- employees will receive end of the year bonuses as well. it matters. when i hear climate, i think jobs. host: that was president biden in colorado. rachel, you wrote a piece, "president biden's first climate summit snob carry weight." your thoughts. guest: he has vowed to combat this and engaged abroad after president trump withdrew and this year he is not going.
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in other climate activist say he has a chance to show his figure ship on this issue, to show this is important to him and then you can walk and chew gum and carry multiple issues at the same time . i think a lot of folks are disappointed. i don't necessary -- i don't know necessarily if his actions will affect the outcome. host: what has the white house said about why he is not going? guest: they have been vague, that emphasized his focus on the middle east between israel and the palestinians. host: the vice president is attending. ricardo in greenville, democratic caller. caller: i voted for biden but i am disappointed with his work in climate so far. when you say china is the biggest emitter, i feel like you're leaving the u.s. army out of the equation.
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there is a lot of pollution. if you think of the number of solar panels, china is producing the most, yet we are buying solar panels from china. they also made more train tracks. they have the fastest trains -- they have faster trains than we do. they are doing more for the climate that we are. they have battery plants where they store power using solar panels. they are doing a lot as far as green energy. i feel like our countries behind and china is beating us. they dish to call them the biggest -- to call them the biggest producer when we are the number one. i think it is unfair when they are doing the most out of any country. they are selling more electric cars. they have a lot of electric buses. they invested a lot.
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host: rachel. guest: we made some good points. it is complicated to pass climate blame. all china is the biggest emitter right now, the u.s. is the biggest emitter historically. over time, we have distributed the most. that is not to let the u.s. off of the hook. all different kinds of countries are looking to bring those down, including the u.s.. there is certainly a lot of work to do to bring the whole world under 1.5. host: gwen -- glenn in greenbrier. caller: there is no such thing as climate change, that is a life. -- a lie. host: we will go to elise. independent.
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caller: i wanted to take care of one piece of housekeeping. today and yesterday a woman called claiming hamas was something created by israel, specifically by netanyahu. hamas is in the offshoot of the muslim brotherhood, it is not created by israel. to the climate issue. there has been controversy about having this summit being held in a country that is a large will producer. -- a large oil producer. i remember mr. clinton saying to the saudis they need to focus on advancing non-oil-based energy, such as solar energy. we have not seen anything of
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great note coming from any of the countries that are known for their oil-producing part of opec. i find it interesting that that is glossed over. guest: it is complicated because a lot of these countries produce oil that is used by the world. at the same time, you cannot just come off the taps like that. there has to be a transition. there has been concerns about supply. last year during russia's invasion of ukraine, that was part of the discussion. host: gary in kentucky, republican. caller: china is not going and the president of the u.s. is not going, the two biggest emitters.
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i am just wondering, is this a taxpayer paid vacation for kamala harris? it seems like a vacation for un people. not much will get done. host: will not much get done because the top leaders are not there? guest: i do not think their absence will impact that because there are some negotiators. john kerry is on the ground, china has an negotiators. that is not to say that nothing is going to get done. it is -- to say what will likely get done. host: the role john kerry plays in the biden administration and the work yesterday in his tenure. guest: john kerry has led the negotiations all the climate summits during the biden presidency and he has worked with nations around the world to develop a deal. he will be doing that again this year -- will he be doing that
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again this year? host: -- will he be doing that again this year? guest: yes, he travels with all different countries to work with leaders to get them to step up their commitments to combat climate change. host: kirk in new jersey, independent. caller: good morning. i am kind of a bomb thrower, not unlike our president. there is an incredible amount of war emissions today. nobody talks about nuclear being an issue for the environment. i am going to throw out a bunch of comments and if you can talk on any of them, feel free. the ice caps may be melting from the core of the earth, little unstable and heating up. they are melting from the bottom.
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all of this stuff -- population control is the only answer. with that said, have a great day and breathe the air while you can. host: those are kirk's thoughts. we talked about president biden's initiative on beating the paris climate agreement. there are officials that are upset with him about new oil leases. talk about what the administration has done on that front. guest: while there have been policies aimed at combating climate change, there have been some that lock in more fossil fuel use. one is the project in alaska that would allow conocophillips to drill a lot of world out of alaska and a lot of climate activists are upset by that. they have complained about the approval of the mountain valley pipeline and legislation in west virginia and approvals of the confide natural gas exports.
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folks are saying we need to turn off fossil fuels, they have been upset by this. they think the president's actions are not far enough and locking in more years of fossil fuels. host: what is the white house say in response? guest: on the role of project-based say there were legal constraints and they had to approve those because of actions that happened before their tenure. they have also made the case that some of this energy is needed now. host: lynn in bishop, california. independent. caller: good morning. biden talking about investments, you can only make an investment if you have money. the money comes from taxpayers. that is one misnomer.
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i just want to know what people are willing to give up. if you google what is made from petroleum products, all of the shipping from amazon, all of the things we get in the mail every day, you talk about climate change but i don't see any change of people's lifestyles. it is go, go, travel, travel, spend so we can have a good economy. the economy only stays strong because people are spending and they don't have money. to watch all of these global leaders fly all over the world in their jets, i am sure they are going to be in luxury hotels burning fossil fuels. i think that is where you get a lot of the distressed. -- the distressed. -- distrust. host: i will follow up with --
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"do you have a chart of the jets used by the leaders around the world." guest: either to have those numbers offhand, private jets contributed to climate change issue. in the grand scheme of things, i'm not sure how that weighs compared to huge emissions coming from our activities. like the caller said, there are trade-offs in lifestyles. host: can corporations give tax incentives by doing things that lessen their vertical footprint? fewer cars on the boat will help trucks get to places faster, battery operated, so many ways. guest: there are some tax incentives for businesses and individuals who make hiring upgrades to their home. there are also incentives for
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new renewable energies, things like that. host: ed in denton, texas. democratic caller. caller: hello. host: question or comment? caller: i think the massive subsidies given to the fossil fuel industry should be taken away. not just in the u.s., but internationally. secondly, i think the fossil fuel industry should be called on for information and greenwashing they are doing. i think the idea of many of them saying they're going to get to and zero, when you get into the weeds and look at it, you see they are allocating something like what percent of their budget for doing such things. host: rachel. guest: the fossil fuel subsidies
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is interesting because that is something that came up. there has been language that says they want to be an efficient fossil fuel subsidy. it is not clear what that means. some folks don't like that qualifier and they want to get rid of all fossil fuels. host: who already folks? -- are the folks? guest: a lot of climate activist's. they kept that language in there because those have to be adopted by consensus. host: if you have the word inefficient in there, how many would it apply to? guest: to be honest, i'm not sure. i am not sure what counts as efficient or inefficient. it might be a judgment call. host: you can follow rachel's former president donald trump is in iowa for a campaign event. watch live 1:30 p.m. eastern on c-span.
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