jobs, the recovery of agriculture prices and -- [inaudible] i. >> i pledge myself to a new deal for the american people. [cheers and applause] >> at the height of the great depression, democratic new york governor frank lip roosevelt un-- franklin roosevelt unseated herbert hoover in a landslide ory. watch historic presidential els saturdays at 7 p.m. ern on american history tv on c-span2. .. funding for presidents, i didn't. quick was that like was a that conversation? >> it was very interesting. weim had friend and wrote and td jimmy he thought he should run forev president. >> we can you say the word that

my husband was running for office i didn't tellus anybody e kept a very quiet. and once he decided that he would do it, he could hardly say i'm going to be president. it was something we never ever dreamed what happened. butha i was excited about it. i had campaigned the whole last year before the governor's race. and it was hard. she was a baby i did not like to leave her all the time. but , i enjoyed it. i learned so much about our state. read 159 counties under the capitol county, and issues that time i got involved in mental health issues. campaigning for jimmy.

big mental health facility hospital. there'd been a big exposé on the systems act have been b passed this was 63 this was 1966 when he first ran for governor forgot beat that time he got in late because our leading democratic kent had a heart attack. but, they're moving people out of the hospital that room for 3000 per is happening all overy the country. they were moving them out before they had any facilities. there were no services in the. community. and everybody started talking to me what were your husband if he selects governor of georgia? i just learned so much about what was going on. after we lost that election i worked for years to learn a little bit about mental health.

the first month in office he up uappointed the governor's commission. until he told me about that either this is give me a chance to go across the whole country. it was so much fun to me. go into people's homes when we first started campaigning. i went to iowa a lot of them to florida and iowa in the beginning for those are two primaries. and i had been working in our home. when we got home from the navy, jimmy had me. i did not work the first year. but i started helping him. he only had seasonal labor. as it working he said well you come and keep the office why go visit the farmers. so i would go in and maybe six people in someone's house.

and i knew the price of fertilizer. i knew how much they could get for the corn. i loved it and i met so many it was hard so exciting i had been able to learn all about georgia and i was able to learn and i thought i knew he'd be a good president. >> mrs. carter, when did you know, andou during that campaign that your husband would be elected president? >> i never doubted it. he never doubted her i don't think anybody in our whole campaign thought we would lose. you have to have that set of mind to win. because we campaigned all the time just like we are going to win. "the peta brigade? >> the peanut brigade was a lot of our friends. it started out from georgia but then it grew and grew and grew.

they would campaigning all over the country force. it was really wonderful. they paid their way. i'm back we had no money everyone who worked on the campaign had to find a house to stay in, somebody that was a supporter that would let them spend the night with them. for they had to pay for a hotel. that could not happen now. it was reallyth close. even with the money to when the nomination. >> rosalynn carter, generate 20 , 77. what youou remember about that day? >> it was inauguration day. we walked on pennsylvania avenue in the cold, cold weather. it was exciting. >> whose idea wasn't to walk? >> it was jimmy's idea. he did not tell me until the night before. he did not tell anyone else except the secret service agents.

>> secret service agents did not want to notify security they did not want him to walk at all. i guess he just i thought it was better. no one was anticipating him walking on pennsylvania avenue. i think he thought everything would be different. maybe we should not do it if everybody knew it. anyway, it was really wonderful. >> generate 20 , 77 you're the first lady of the united states. how did you prepare to become first lady? >> the hard part for me was going from the farm supply business to the governor's mansion f for beautiful governos mentioned it was new. the outgoing governor had only lived in it for two years.

there is. furniture all the way through. and i went to see the outgoing governor's wife after we won and i asked her who did the cooking and she said i do. i said who serves the table? she said i do. everything i asked her she did it. i said i would like to see your office where your office? she said i don't have one. my staff when she said i didn't have an office in the governor's capitol where the governor was and i said you make speeches she said no i let the governor's mother do that. and all the help in the house were from the prison. the first thing i do is hire a housekeeper. we taught the prisoners to cook, to serve tables, i developed a

fairly competent staff. the music club of atlanta invited me too entertain ben clyburn. he was coming to perform in atlanta. january 30, we actually moved in the governor's mansion january the 12th. jimmy had an aunt in this area and i called her because she was a really wonderful person. we put tuxedos on the president. which was new and different for them. anyway, we had a really wonderful meeting. i got her to organize people to takent people to the governor's mansion. what i want the first type a state patrolman was in the hallway.

i thought that did not seem very homey. huddle w list of people who came every day the mansion was open. anyway,p i had to learn everything. i had to develop the staff. we learn by trial and error. we had my sister help me and will be entertained where the first entertainments we had was a man who'd certainly read his biography and his talents and what hean did and it sounded perfect met a lot of racecar drivers. atlanta has a speedway they're coming to dinner with us. he got here and stood up. when he stood up to seeing he sang light o opera. if you can believe it i slid under the table after that we learned we had to audition everybody. when i got to the white house,

everything was already done. i had the associate secretary i did not have to worry about what we're going to serve or any of those things. should make up plans for me and bring them to me and i would decide what i wanted toas do. it was really quite wonderful. amy was three years old moved to the governor's mansion she'd never known anything else. inin the governor's mansion nothing i would change if you could not get from our upstairs where we lived to the kitchen without going to the tourist. amy learned at three years of a used two walk to the tourist like this because that's the baby,he that's the baby she goto her she would walk by without even seeing them. i remember we got to the white went to school t first day there is amy going in like this which she had been doing all of her life going through tourist. everyone felt so sorry for her. but that was just part of our

life. and actually after that happened on the first day the press got together and decided not to bother amy anymore. and that was really wonderful to it in the white house we didn't have to worry about that. to be but where did you first meet jimmy carter? >> and plains, georgia has a proposition of 634. i think i knew everybody in town. there were no girls my age in town. and of course i knew who he was. i knew him, but he was three years older. but his little sister who was three years younger than me but stay in town if we had a basketball game or some event at the school.

she would stay with her grandmother who lived in town and we became very close friends.s. she was my best friend growing up. >> this is ruth? >> this is ruth. but he grabs her in high school at 16 milliman 11 grades back then. i was 13. there's no way out thought i would ever go jimmy carter. it did not go with him until he came before he was a first class when he came home from the naval academy and i went out within the night before he was going to leave. the reason i plotted to getet ot with him i'd fallen in love with his photograph on the wall. [laughter] on we go out there begun.

everyone used it for church events and school events and things like that. so many use the house the night before they're going out there and clean up. it was that youth meeting one night during the week ruth is her boyfriend jimmy drove up and asked me too go to the movie with him. so i went to the movie with him. i went to see them off the next night ando then he started writing letters to each other. at christmas time he asked me too marry him and i turned him down. [laughter]

i wasse young. i had promised my father on his deathbed that i would go to college. i had not finished college. i went to annapolis that we can of the ring dance. i don't remember they called the weekend. i was still young. >> july the seventh , 46. >> that is right. your father died and you're quite young. >> 13. i was the oldest of four children had two brothers and my little sister who was four years old. and my father had leukemia. i did not know he was sick and i've been wanting to go to a church camp in the summer. it told me we didn't have enough money for it. and then one day i came home from school my daddy asked me if

i would still like to go to the camp i said great but it did not know he was going to the hospital to see what was wrong. and he died just maybe -- that was maybe may and he died in november. >> how did that affect your rules the oldest child? >> everything change for us. i was the oldest one. my mother had never written a check. she went to college for two years and had a teacher certificate but never taught. backi then plains mercantile pe company but your clothes and things. it's in the groceries to the house, my daddy would pay for it all. when he was on his deathbed he called us all in and told my mother she wanted him to sell the farm if she had to because

he wanted his daughter to go to school. i don't know if we sold the farm but the next to her mother died. she was an only child. mama died we had no idea she was sicke my grandfather lived on a farm outside of town. went out to milk the cows and when he came back in she was leaning over. she was tying her shoe dead in the chair. someone called my mother 11 months after my daddy died. we have been depending on them so much. andd said your mother died this morning and i just can't imagine anyone doing that. i was getting ready to go to school and i heard her screaming in the hall where the telephone was. and it wasgh tough. my mother worked in a grocery store in theoo school lunchroom pamona still in high school she got a job in the post office and

worked there until she had her tire. she had to retire at age 70. it was the law. i was campaigning and this was 1975. grissom's because her birthday was christmas eve on her birthday she had to retire. so i was campaigning i went campaigning after christmas. i went back home and my brother said call me as soon as i got home to go to seat mother she cried all week long. i went to see her and i said mother. she had to get up every morning at 7:00 a.m. and the jetta come back later in the afternoon. but my grandfather came to live with also my grandmother died. my mother had flexible hours the post message about to get up early and did him to stay late. but anyway i said mother, don't you enjoy being ofe a sleep in? she said it's not bad.

it's just nobody things i can do good work anymore. that made an impression on me. joan jimmy wasn't president i worked with aging. i became interested in work with mental illness because there werent no doctors to care for people with mental illness. a note geriatric doctor. he passed an age discrimination law. so people in the federal government can work as long as it wanted to. people outside work until they're 75. >> host: rosalynn carter you've always been a political partner to your husband. was that a fair statement? >> i've been a partner. a cold apartment. he was in the navy for seven years after we got married with three boys. the first two years, after the first had one baby and he was gone for two years.

back then c united served two years he was gone monday till thursday every week and her duty off one night. right to take care of everything. and then we got home and i began working the farm supply business. more than he did i think that is only really developed a good partnershipul i could say don't buy corn anymore were losing money on it. i could surprise him. at developed into really wonderful partnership. i did not campaign when he ran for the senate. i kept the business will he campaigned. but then, when he campaigned -- when he ran for governor is a for semi- campaigned. but then when godly governors race i learned all the issues and campaigned when did the same

thing when he was running for president. i think is a first time i know ladies out bird had come on planes and trains is a first time that women had campaigned. i got a macarthur friend when jimmy started to run for president. in that wanted to know if i could campaign and other states like i did in georgia so i went tod florida. we are just stop along the way in towns and pass out brochures and look up the radio f stations and so we started working -- going towards intent is because they were radioig stations. we would go in it might just be music especially when they play music. they would have no idea i would say my husband is running for president elect reach interview me in the said president of a what? i was a president of the united

states for this he got to be kidding i would say no i'm not kidding they have no idea which asked me for the firstha day i d five or six questions of things i wanted people to know about jimmy. i came home and said i can do it.s what i learned everybody is the same. good families, good homes, they were good things for their families. they want a church. usually they wanted a place to worship. they want to make a living and have a good life. everybody wants the same thing. regions have different other things but in general people want to be happy and have a good home and a good family. >> in your book first lady from planes, you write that you are more political than your husband. what did you mean by that? says what he thanks the matter what he says.

because i think you have to be political in a certain way. you have to be honest and say the same things. but still, you have to cater people -- to people i think i know it they want and need to be able to influence and vote for you. and it's not being dishonest it's finding out what they want and letting them know how you'ru and help them with the problems with the thingshi they want and the government. just being a political. jimmy thanks somebody needs to be done is to be done now. when he is in o but when he was present i don't think he thu read anything that is controversial. i did not like the controversy all thehe time. orcs rosalynn carter in the

white house to hold press conferences. traveled solo, acted as a presidents adversary, how did you develop the a issues you wanted to talk about or became expert in? >> i worked on mental health had the president's commission on mental health. i toured the country. i worked on the problems of elderly. a lot of that came from seeing what happened to my mother. because that was in the campaign. but also in campaigning they took me where there were a lot of democrats. i went to a lot of nursing homes. a lot of facilities for older people. jon saw what great means they were in that area. whatge side worked on immunizatn georgia.

we had a good immunization program. later a senator when jimmy was elected. he was governor at the same time jimmy was. they work with the center for disease control and a really good immunization program. she talked me into doing it. i'm so too it's after got in the me i'veuse she called course is right to work on immunization in the white house. immunization was required by school age and only 15 states. there is a little department was 15 or 17. the first year weh got to work with betty the secretary of hhs. we got in all 50 states for that was exciting. with this big meeting in

washington. i will from one subject to the next. with his big meeting from all over the country. the next it is not one word in the paper about it press so upset. so i i called joe i said i notie a camera that he said it was ours are. but nobody wasmu interested in immunization. i got upset with the press to because they covered my mental health work, the first two meetings i had and then never showed up anymore. one of things i wanted to do was bring attention to the issue and how terrible it was. and what few services there were. i'm thinking justt getting out n the public. that's what did in georgia. but, they just did not come. when tim is walking the dancers

for the white house and there's this woman who was one of the press people. nobody ever covers my meetings and she said mrs. carter, mental health is just on a sexy issue. [laughter]t and that i did not like. they did not get much coverage for. but we toured the country. found out what was needed past plastic mental health systems act of 1980. pastor congress one month before jimmy as he says was involuntary retired from the white house. i never implemented. one of the greatest disappointment to my life. >> mental health symposium here at the carter center. one of the people who worked

with me in the white house the subject was affordable care act. did a comparison what we did in 1980 about the affordable air character is almost identical. it was announced here the final regulations. i repaired in the 1980s health systems act. things don't move very fast the mental health field. but i am so thrilled now. the affordable care act covers a parody it also is immigration in 1980 legislation. by combining mental health issues for mental health. sue wtou and betty ford worked abo tether? work that isth right. after we left the white house shoe get republicans that i will get democrats and we made some progress.

>> your husband's were known as becoming best friends. they were very good friends a jew and betty ford on the very same relationship? >> yes we developed a good relationship. want to sit out funeral in september after he left the white house. that is when jimmy and gerald ford began talking a lot of time about how much each one, and then bettyrk and i started workg with betty weise are developing a wonderful relationship. >> mrs. carter the still several first ladies living. is there a sorority of first ladies in a sense? >> i could had a good relationship with betty ford and lady bird. as long as she was alive.

but that is about it. there's never been judgment we see each other at events and libraryy dedications with new first ladies. but there's never been the closeness that i had with betty ford and lady bird. >> host: you are first lady you had a weekly luncheon with your husband and would attend cabinet meetings. both the purpose of that? >> well i do lunch with jimmie brother always and someone to ask him. some was about the family and finances and things going on back home. we talked about issues. i would say it was more family and personal things that were going on. but it gave us time to do that. after we wereth there, until abt

august jimmy stayed at the oval office in the daytime did not go back much at night. others times he srted call me at 4:30 p.m. in the afternoon. i put over and east wing. he started calling me and said let's go jog or let's go do something. i also wanted to be home when amy got home from school. so it stopped scheduling anything about part of the afternoon. we would jog or exercise or swim in the sit on the trim and a balcony and talk about what he had done during the day when i had done during the day. and we just had a good relationship. but, what he learned in the white house was there's no way to know what's happening because of the press.

you cannot learn from newspapers. you cannot learn from two minutes on tv computers were new. but we did not have computers then. we had a big mainframe still in the white house. nobody ever used it. i don't forgot those activated or removed that this was a long time ago. thirty something years ago. but i cannot tell. he stepped off of the elevator upstairs and i asked him what he to do that? i had to know. i was touring the country. i was having press conferences and i needed to know. and february after we been in their anger one day he stepped off of the elevator he said why don't you come to cabinet meetings and then you'll know why we do things. and that's when i started going to cabinet meetings. what a lot of peoe don't know is the cabinet meets with staff around the room but i sat by

scalia it was in a wheelchair he's not a cabinet member anyway read he is the head of the metro fares and i sat by him next to thet door. i went every time i cut the cabinet met. i thought it was necessary for me too know what was going on a why decisions are made and so forth so that i could then explain to people in the country as a toured around. >> host: did you receive criticism for attending those meetings for being the president'sy? emissary? >> don't think i ever received criticism from the west wing. they knew how close we were. and how interested i was. there was all kinds of criticism. but i learned what jimmy was state senate that's the hardest because you know everybody that criticizes you. then you expect it when you get

toi be governor in jimmy's been governor for years.he i watch the white house i know it was coming. i did not like it. you have to accept that. what i did, you have to know what your husband does is what he thanks is the best possible thing for our country. what i am doing is a best possible thing for our country but when jimmy was in the states and i would get so upset. he sat me down to see if you don't think i've been the best job i can do than worry about it. you have to just accept that. but also my feeling was if they reported things in the way we did not like it's because they didn't know what they were ignorant about what was going on but lots of times it was true.

if they know what you're doing and so forth. there's no way to know it's happening as talked about all day every day we had people who really knew what was in the law which is so good for us. current regulations. we found out the day before that she was coming and passed a law in 2008 and i've been talking to her about it. she was a good friend chris father was governor with jimmy was a governor and was a good friend. i am sure her hands were tied by the white house. i think it was the affordable care act.

thiser is 33 years. i was emotional. [laughter] >> wasn't possible to have a private life in the white house? did the white house feel like home?om >> it felt like home to us almost immediately because we had all been cpaning i had been campa and we were together. we had two of her sons and amy was there. we had meals together. we had a rule that if you're not going to be there for a meal gray to check off a little thing so we could know who is going to be there. an almost everyday sometimes i was not but most days i was when she came up from school.

equipment to lessons and i took the violin classes. i meant as i said earlier jimmy and i would jog. if it was raining go to the bowling alley and things like that. we had a fairly good family life. i think it was so precious to us because of being gone traveling for two years. cox is the white house effective marriage? >> i think it could. it did not affect ours. we had just been partners working together for so long. i could see if the first lady

was particularly interested in the different issues i think it would be very difficult for jamaica talk to me about all of it. it happens that way more and more with the first ladies. some of the early first ladies but then there were others that were not. >> host: when you look back atad previous first place before you served did you admire? who did you emulate? who did you learn from? >> the closest person i had the closest and only person i had knowledge of was lady bird. she would go to georgia him at the highway beautification. i just knew her in the main thing she told me it was if i would ask her something should say enjoy, enjoy, it's not going to last long. just enjoy it. but she did help me a lot. and everybody i think looks back

at eleanor roosevelt who was quite wonderful. one person had a big impact on my life as margarett mead i thought i was going to work on mental health issues. we developed a wonderful relationship. she would give me advice come to canada for health meeting. to lead her was so emotional. i would like to admit eleanor roosevelt. what your husband in 2010 it publishes white house diaries. did you keep a diary or journal for the white house years? >> i kept them at different times. i did not do much in the beginning but then i start have my secretary put spaces between events and i had a desk in my bedroom. i left it there i would go and

what was happening and who is going to be there. i would start writing notes about what happened at that event. i did that pretty regularly for a while. i have a really good diary about camp david. i kept thoseot notes all the ti. from the first day. >> are those public? >> no. [laughter] >> if and when will they be public? >> i don'tkk know. i just went through them and edited them. i did not edit anything i struck out a few passages. [laughter]y? why? >> we were not cooperating with jimmy. [inaudible] just my personal thoughts along with what d was happening. i didn't sit in in any of the meetings but i was there the whole time. as soon as i would come out of a

meeting that's roughly what it was pretty was incredible. was from a height of excitement that was going to happen to the depths of despair. come on monday for answers we did not know we are going to be the 13 days until the last few days i had to go into town to do some events for jimmy and some for me. and some that i had planned. i got back one day on this road toward the end. jimmy and hamilton jordan and they said that's right they thought he was. and he was a bad evening. i went i left on sunday, the day they came back jimmy said it's either today or not were just going to have to end it.

and we had definitely open the white house. we had pbs did our events for a while. and i i cannot remember who was there that day that i had to come in. ice had to come in and introduce the artist. and i got a call about halfway through it -- about happened to the concert jimmy told him h thy thought they had it but don't tell anybody. did not know for sure. that was interesting. and anyway when they came in that night and the helicopter landed it was dark, dust or dark.y i'm sure it was dark. they came in we are sending by the door of the blue room. prime minister went straight to

her it was like mama were going to go down in history for this. it was really thrilling. so what do you think will see a rosalynn carter camp david accords diary book sometime? >> we might. actually i guess it's alright it for me too tell open in a theater in washington on camp david. >> would be there for? >> i will be there for. >> another issue during her w husband's presidency only to ask about mrs. carter, the iranian hostage crisis. could you keep notes? what we are feeling throughout the whole crisis? how did that affect you as a person? >> it was awful. i have memories of just waiting

for the press conference it and iran to set happen that day but we had no idea what was going on but the only way we knew what was going on was when they would come out and announce it. thinking about and thinking we met with the families all along. in thinking about the people whose family members were there. what it was doing to jimmy's at presidency and it was awful. it was awful. i would go out a and campaign. i found out earlier, when the president goes out he is so surrounded. he speaks of h them and says heo and so forth but does not get close enough to people to have conversations normal like you would. what their hopes and dreams what they thought about they were doing or what jimmy was doing or

anything that could help them. i have learned that early during his presidency. but i would go out and everyone would say tell the president to do something. tell him he's got to do something. i would come home and say why don't you do something? what you want me too do jimmy 10 mine theta harbors which allowed people are talking about. and then have them bringer out e prisoner every day and have them hang in public? [inaudible] but i wanted it over. and of course you did to put everybody did. every night new tv program started and nobody got over it at all. could get over. just think about it because it was there every day in every night. itt was awful. i kept up with what i was doing

i never stopped with what i was doing. y stupid by the time for years four yearswere over how tired w? >> you know you lose the election in november. that is depressing it was depressing on me. i just wanted to go home. when i got home i don't know that i was tired. i guess i was tired. i just remember comingg home we lived right on the edge of the woods. we begun 10 years because jimmy was governor for, campaign to. the woods and come up around our house. the vines and things. we did not have time to really

worry about it. i mean, to really mourn it. i think i mourned it before i left the whiteun house. there is my mental health legislation. i think i realize how important it is for a president to have a second term. although jimmy carter would not have changed anyway. he would not have changed anyway. cooks in your book first lady from plains, britain in 1984u closed by saying i would be out on the campaign trail today if jimmy carter would run again. >> all the time right after he lost the election i kept knowing he was going to run again. [laughter] i. would have been there. >> you have a grandson who is gs announce for governor of georgia for a going to be out of the campaign trail? >> i will do whatever he asked me too do. he is a great young man but he graduated from duke university, went to the peace corps for a

few years. came home and went to law school he said a law firm now to terms with state senator. >> you've had 33 years a poster presidency the longest in history. you have been very active. what do you think you are a legacy as first lady is? what would you like it to be? >> i hope might legacy continues more than just first lady because it's been intricate part of our lives to waging peace, fighting disease and building hope. help improve the lives of people living with mental illness. i have had exciting

opportunities. to goho to africa we have progrs we go to africa twowo or three times a year to go to those villages and things are coming to fruition with almost eradicated guinea worm. to go to a village was no longer hide is a celebration. one of the c good things is we don't give money to the government. we send people in to help people in the country. we work with people in the villages but to go to the villages and explain about guinea worm they see or hear

about it from another country they are so happy you are there. just to go back what is going from a village are almost gone and the hope it gives to them. most of the time it's the first thing they've ever seen that successful. it's just so wonderful to see the hope something good is happening. >> rosalynn carter we are here in atlanta at the carter center for this interview. how much time do you spend in atlanta? how much time in planes? we schedule one week and month the most of don't have to come back more than like my mental health i was your three days last week and this is my week. we havee to come back more than that. we scheduled out so we can plan

our travels around it. and we travel. almost too much. this year i'll be interested to see how much we been gone. it's maybe not half. but i guess most of the time is not half the time of the time but it's getting pretty close. [laughter] the only thing, like to go to africa something so wonderful happens if you go there from the carter center let me tell you a funny story. we put global 2000 and africa because they plan out the heads of state get credit for what they do. somebody gets rid of it guinea worm for that village has a

wheat field the wheat crop has what they produce grows three times as much as it used to. they get so excited the. head of state of my agriculture program. but the word getsth around. one time we were in this village there is a farmer that have been named the farmer of the year. i went to this village but he knew it we were in this village and they pulled press chairs really wonderful inputs. said the whole village came. there is a little girl about halfway through it jimmy was saying she held up a side said go away worm jimmy carter is coming so word gets around and people know it. until we get toat that village o other countries may be the word

is already around. i just worked magic sometimes i think. i gives hope to people who have never had any hope of their lives ever being better. it is exciting. cooksdv finally, rosalynn carter what is your advice to future first ladies or first husbands? >> in the firsth place, i have learned you can do anything you want too. i used to ask the first lady ought to be paid. if you pay and half your first light is supposed to do. you can do anything you want to and it is such a great soapbox. it is such a great opportunity.

i would advise any first lady to do what she wanted to do and another thing i learned is you are going to be criticized no matter what you do. i could've stayed in the white house, poured tea, had receptions i would've been criticized was criticized for what i did. i got a lot of criticism. you learn to live with it as i said earlier or you really expect it and live with that. it.and never let it influence y. i would just tell her also to enjoy it and do it she wanted to do. and another first lady will have thingsgs she wants to because women have changed in the passable women do now has change or what they did when i grow. i could be a secretary, a schoolteacher, a librarian and a few things. but no most women were active.

dude you want to do and don't worry about the criticism. >> thankta you. ♪ be up-to-date on the latest in publishing with book tv podcast about books. with current nonfiction book releases. plus a best seller lists as well as industry news and trends through insider interviews. you can find about books on c-span our free mobile app or were ever you get your podcast. ♪'s easement is your unfiltered view of government. we are funded by these television companies and more including ♪ ♪. ♪ where are you going? or, maybe a better question is how far do you want to go?

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