orpheum as it do for this only hope of a get people second chance. one thing i really worry about when you talk about 100,000 americans dying of functional and the functional is brought in by the mexican drug cartels that's 100,000 kids that never get a second chance with her mom. that's 100,000 moms and dads that never get a second chance to come clean. this is destroying our country. i happen to believe it got the best of people in the world. if got the best country in the world but we cannot allow kamala harris broken leadership to continue to screw this up for that is going to change it. we got great people, let's fix the broken leadership and get kamala harris out of there. [applause] >> we all look forward to that. >> 26 days. >> 26 days the countdown is on. >> it's going to happen too. >> yet voting, vote early. the next question comes from

kayleigh. >> i'm a small business owner and a first-time voter and i'm a hair dresser. >> god bless you. [laughter] [applause] >> i was wondering how you are going to help -- >> oh, i lost my place. one day i want to start a family and own my own home, but with rising costs, i do not know if that will be able to happen. you have come from humble beginnings, so what is your plan for creating more opportunities for people like me? >> yes, ma'am, of course. well, thank you for your question, and it's the an important one.

[applause] i will say i think we've got a question here, a question over here and a question over here. i think i need a swivel chair -- >> they need to make us a lazy susan, spin around. >> well, i think, to answer your question, let's start by understanding where, because it's really to to important to the understand the root causes of some of these problems. why are hinges so expensive under -- things so expense if we've, and there are a whole host of things i could point to, but most important is energy, okay? so think about it like this, groceries are 25% higher than they were three and a half years ago because the truck drivers are paying way more for diesel fuel, and it's the truck drivers who are getting the groceries to the grocery store: our farmers are paying more for deals, and finally, you think about building a house, well, if all the people are paying more for gas and energy, that's going to the raise the the price of everything. so president trump has this phrase which i think is very

simple, but it's also a yen winly specific policy. the most important thing we've got to do to lower prices and make life more affordable is drill, baby, drill. we've got to unleash american energy. [cheers and applause] it really is so important. [applause] and it also, it also -- by the way, i admire you so much for doing what you do and having the courage to go out and do it on your own. it's not easy. but you want to have a government that makes your life a little bit easier for you to get ahead instead of harder and harder to get ahead. think about this, you're a small business woman, you're building something that is going to to create -- that is creating prosperity in the just for you, but for your community. of course, you provide a good service. i need a good haircut right now, so i'll call you. [laughter] but think about this, we have got two really different economic proposals from kamala harris and donald trump.

kamala harris' entire economic plan if boils down the we're going to raise taxes on american workers, and we're going to reward companies that ship jobs overseas. if donald trump's vision is like the pact opposite. we're going to cut taxes for american workers, penalize folks who are shipping american jobs overseas. we want to reward people like you who are creating prosperity right here mt. united states of america. [applause] if -- in the united states of america. but, you know, the one last thing i'd say, and i ask you -- i'm sure you've got, you know, a lot of friends. you're clearly, like you say, a first-time voter, and i know a lot of first-time voters are figuring this stuff out. i'm older than you, but i'm pretty young by the standards of national politics, i'm only 40. and one of the things i really worry about the young generation in this country, their growing up in a nation where they're going to become -- in the

country that their parents and grandparents built. i want you to own a piece of the future and in the just be a permanent debtor the people and institutions -- to people and institutions that don't care about you and don't like you. i want you to own a slice of this country, and that's how we're going to create prosperity. thank you. [applause] >> the globalist view of own nothing >> i tried cricket one time.

>> i've also tried cricket. it is more disgusting than you could possibly man. don't eat bugs, we'll eat red meat. >> yeah! [applause] >> no crickets. >> i've somehow if become a steak and potatoes girls. -- girl. i'm also a first-time voter. i've never voted before, but this time around i have to vote. [applause] >> good for you. >> yeah t that important. >> i just want to be clear, you're voting for us, right? you're voting for the good guys? [laughter] >> [inaudible] >> there we go. >> if i could vote guys, i would. >> we don't do that. we're republicanning -- republicans. we only vote -- we vote healey. >> the way you vote twice is to bring a friend. >> that's right. >> bring a friend. >> that's a good point. vote twice the the legal way, bring yourself and a friend to the polls. very good. >> speaking of energy, we became

energy independent for the first time under donald trump's administration. >> right. >> with the, with a.i. requiring so much power to run it and with wanting to become energy independent again, how long do you think it's going to the take to be there again, and what are the -- what is the path away to that? if -- pathway to that? >> that's a very good question because, to your point, a.i. requires so much power that unless we have effectively unlimited power, we're not going to be able to power the a.i. revolution. i mean, this is like crazy, you know, space age stuff. like stinted of going to the a doctor to -- instead of going to a doctor the get your skin checked if you've to got skin cancer, for example, you can take a photo, and it'll tell you whether you have cancer. that's what the a.i. revolution's going to mean. that's going to the mean cheaper medical costs but only, to your point, if we get those energy

costs reasonable, you is ask how long is it going to take to get energy independent, if if donald trump is president, it'll happen almost immediately. [applause] i mean, two years should get us back to where we were because, i mean, look, in pennsylvania, in north carolina, i mean, in florida, we've got energy resources that the world would literally kill for. in some cases, some of these countries have is have actually started wars over the resources we have. kamala's entire policy so to buy oil and gas from tin pot dictators all over the world. let's buy it from american citizens right here at home and create a lot of good american jobs in the process. [applause] but, look, if kamala harris wins, god forbid -- i'm going to have nightmares now just for saying that, but i think it would take us ten years after her administration assuming she only got four years, it would take us ten years to get us out of the hole she would dig us

into. that's how bad these guys are on energy. they've got it in their mind that they care about the environment, but they don't actually care about the environment. we believe in clean air and clean water in the republican party. we created a lot of the environmental protections that exist. bobby kennedy cares about the environment. trust me, he does. but if you want clean air, you don't ship all of our manufacturing and energy to to china which is the dirtiest economy per unit of economic output in the world. you build more and make more in the united states of america. that's what president trump will do. [applause] >> our next question comes from patricia. [laughter] >> good evening. >> now i really need that swivel chair. [laughter] >> i've got your back. >> thank you. [laughter] [applause]

>> i'm pat, and i'm from timber lake are, north carolina, and i'm a retired health care worker. and my question tonight is that, it's about social security. >> yes, ma'am. >> and i've seen ads and posts where donald trump is going the take away our social security or cut it or decrease it, but then i also see ads and posts that donald the. >> yes, ma'am. first of all, i don't have to

tell you this, ma'am, you know this, i think a lot of us know this, don't believe everything you see on tv because a lot of those things are paid for by democrat money. it's december honest. here's what donald trump's going to do: he's going to protect social security and cut taxes on social security income because our seniors, you've paid into it for your whole lives, you ought to be able to enjoy the benefit of it on the other end. it's that simple. [applause] but here's something that a really matters here because you know what will bankrupt social security in this country? giving it to illegal aliens. [applause] and that is exactly -- this is what i think is so sick about what kamala harris is going out there doing. he is accuse us of doing the very same thing that she herself is promising to do. she wants to bankrupt this program not by giving it to the people who paid into it, but by giving it to people who don't even have the legal right to be in this country the begin with. and if you want our seniors to enjoy their social security,

donald j. trump is the only, the only candidate in this race that's going the protect it. [cheers and applause] >> so i think it's safe to the say that if you were in the administration for the last few years, you'd do some things different. >> i think so. i think so. [laughter] >> i liked it when kamala speaks, we gain 100,000 votes, is that the number? [laughter] >> you know, some of her interviews are so bad, maybe it's a couple hundred thousand votes. but, you know, you're -- there's an interview that she gave a couple of days ago with "the view." >> in the exactly a hard-hitting one. >> i guess it's tough if you can't even hit a tee ball which i think is camilla a haste in some of these bear if views. but, you know, he was -- kamala harris. the whole argument of her campaign is that she is different from joe biden. you would actually, in fact, be forgiven for believing that she's not his sitting vice

president even though, of course, she is. because she's running so far away from it. and she cast the deciding vote on a lot of the worst policy. she has bragged about being the the last person in the room when these decisions were made. so "the view" asked kamala harris a total softball, would you have done anything differently from joe biden over the last four years, and kamala harris says nothing comes to mind. [laughter] it blew up the whole, the whole lie at the heart of her campaign in one interview answer. and i will say though, i will say when she says nothing comes to the mind, that's probably true about whatever topic the answer -- [applause] if is about. [cheers and applause] so i'm hardly the most obvious person to defend kamala harris, but maybe she was just being honest about her state of mind. >> shows she's a placeholder. >> exactly. >> didn't have any thoughts.

we know that it would be different with you guys, and we know that you answer questions, and we love that. we love having someone in charge of our questions that answers questions and -- of our country that answers questions and is going to get things done. >> well, i appreciate that. [cheers and applause] i, so i think this answering questions thing is actually kind of important because, look, i'm 40 years old. it's -- other than, other than omarlying this beautiful lady -- marrying this beautiful lady up here and raising our kids together, the greatest honor of my life is having been --ing being your vice presidential nominee. it's an incredible honor. but think about this, i'm asking you all to make me your next vice president. that is an awesome thing, an incredible responsibility. i'm asking for it. you ought to go out and earn it and if speak to the american people. kamala harris runs from the american people, and i think that shows a real defect of the kind of leadership skills you need to be the president of the united states in the first place.

and i, i will tell you this story, so i guess this was a couple weeks ago. it was a sunday, and i was sitting at home with our 7-year-old in cincinnati, and i get a call, and it's the president. and i said, hey, sir, what's going on, how you doing? he said, well, they tried to do it again. they tried to do what again? it was a sunday where a second assassination attempt happened on president trump's life. he had a just gotten from the golf course. like any friend, i go, are you okay? if physically you're okay because you're with calling me, but mentally, that's a traumatic thing. and if he goes, yeah, i'm somete that isn't the kind of person

you want in emergency, crisis situations mt. oval office -- in the oval office, you want the guy who isn't fazed by an assassination attempt, you don't want the woman who runs from a friendly american media. [cheers and applause] there's something -- [applause] you know, there's something about the way that kamala harris has run this campaign that i think is general genuinely -- genuinely, to all americans, is insulting. think about it, she's asking you to give her control over millions of american troops, potential -- i mean, over the entire nuclear arsenal of the united states with. she is asking for literally the authority to command life and death all over the world, and she won't even go out and talk to the american people in a non-friend februaryly setting. we all should be -- non-friendly setting. i think it's a disgraceful

campaign, and i hope that we don't reward her, and i don't think that we will. [applause] >> and just to wrap it up since i know you'll answer any question -- [laughter] >> oh, no. >> i think you could share maybe what you did with your day off that you had a couple days ago -- [laughter] and what your special secret skill is to the american people. >> okay. all right -- >> and be specific. >> okay. i will -- [laughter] well, i was raised in a middle class family -- [laughter] [applause] that's the kamala harris answer to any question. so -- >> forgot to laugh. you forgot to laugh. >> i forgot the awkward cackle afterwards. [laughter] the -- okay. so i had, i had half a day off on the campaign trail the other day, and, you know, because we're kind of in crunch time, so you don't really get much time off. you'd probably be shocked to

know this, that i'm a big baker. i really -- you know, i can -- yeah. are there some bakers out there? [applause] >> so my 4-year-old and i, he's my sou us chef when we're baking. my wife and i were on the road for a couple days. the kids are at home with my aunt and uncle, and then we get back tonight to. so i made them breakfast treats for three days in a row. so for the first day they had homemade if cinnamon rolls, the second day they had dulce deeleven chi rolls, and the third day they had chocolate chip scones. so we did all that together and, you know, i'm not perfect, but i do have the talent of baking, so that's one thing i've got going for me. [applause] >> fantastic. well, we also spoke about the pant that you don't get to drivt to drive anymore, so if you got to drive yourself away from here tonight, what kind of car would

you want to drive? [laughter] >> that is a tough question. >> any car. >> well, you know, this just shows the phase of life i am, i would happily take my mini if van right now and drive it, because i don't have any ability to drive anything else. god bless you guys. thank you so much. [applause] if. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> that was republican vice presidential nominee j.d. vance speaking to supporters in greensboro, north carolina. we'll have more live campaign coverage later today on on c-span. you can find the latest schedule by going to our web site, c-span.org. >> tig, it's a debate among the candidates in utah's 2024 u.s. senate race.

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>> our team broke speed barriers, delivered 11 gig speeds -- 11 gig feeds and sped the way in developing a 10g platform, and right now it's offering the fastest, most reliable network. >> mediacom supports c-span2 as a public service. >> host: david jackson at our table this morning, martial political or respondent with "usa today." your headline, disaster politics. donald trump and kamala harris are the latest to deal with fallout.t. define disaster politics. >> guest: basically, when a

disaster happensns and there's n election going on, and the candidates try to take advantage of ithe one way or the other. >> host: this is not the first time it's happened. >> guest: no, not at all. it's a pretty modern phenomenon, but it has happened in past decades. for example, the way president george h.w. bush handled hurricane andrew back in the 1992 definitely undercut his chances at winning re-election. >> host: and why was that? >> guest: just case of the slows, a lot of frustration. hurricane andrew was, at the time, the worst hurricane the united states had ever suffered. it just gutted south florida. an important electoral state. and the people down there felt like the government was just too slow to respond. they had trouble getting trucks down there, equipment down there, fuel, food, all of the others, and a lot of that wound up being blamed on bush. >> host: let's go back into the archives. september 232 the end, 2005, president george w. bush visits new orleans if days after hurricane katrina. this is a different storm.

thanks fema director michael brown for his efforts and the recovery. let's talk about thehe impact of that on the bush administration. >> [inaudible] and the community-based roots throughout this part of the world and the country, for a ma that matter, are responding. if you want to help, give cash money to the red cross and the salvation army. that's where the first help will come. there's going to be plenty of opportunities to help later on, but right now the immediate concern is to save lives and get foot and medicine to people -- food and medicine to the people so we can stabilize the situation. again, i want to thank you all and, brownie, you're doing a heck off a job. the fema director's working 24 -- [applause] they're working 24 hours a day. again, my attitude is if it's not going exactly right, we're going to to make it go exactly right. if there's problems, we're going to address the problems. and that's what i've come down to assure people of.

and, you know, i i want to thank everybody. >> host: david jackson, heck of a job and a round of applause. [laughter] >> guest: well, most of the voters in louisiana and elsewhere didn't hi the government did the a heck of a job with katrina. and in terms of this story, george w. burke was lucky that happened -- george w. bush was lucky that happened inas '05 because that would have been an issue in his re-election year had it happened then. >> host: he just was reelected, is explain sort of the politics. if it had happened before, what was he pacef thingsome. >> guest: well, if he -- facing? >> well, he did win re-election in '004, and he tried to reform social security his second term. we were still having problems in iraq, so bush's political position was already undercut when katrina happened. and that was a case where when the storm first hit, the people felt like fairly or unfairly, people felt like president trump was inattennive. he was coming back from if a campaign-type trip to the west

coast, and remember he flew if over the damage site, and there was a picture of him in air force one looking down out from the window, is and that posture didn't serve him well politically. so in a way, i think katrina really kind of ended his political influence, whatever political power heed had, i think, wasas kind of finished of by the problems associated with the response to katrina. another issue with katrina wasn't so much the storm, but it was the flooding after the storm that was the real problem. and here again the government had a serious case of the slows in getting help down to those folks. and there were also problems between the state and the federal government which is a frequent ifet occurrence in thee kind of situations. >> host: this is september 15th, 2005. then-president george w.. bush, frame time address from new orleans to announce -- prime time

>> it was not a normal hurricane. and the normal disaster relief system was not equal to it. many of the men and women of the coast guard, the federal emergency management agency, the united states military, the national guard, homeland security and state and local governments performed skillfully under the worst conditions. yet the system at every level of government was not well coordinated andle was overwhelmd in the first few days. it is now clear that a challenge on this scale requires greater federal authority and a broader role for the armed forces. the institution of our government most capable of massivee logistical operations n a moment's notice. four years after the frightening experience of september 11th, americans have every right to

expect a more effective response in a time of emergency. when the federal government fails to meet such an obligation, i as president am responsible for the problem and for the solution. so i've ordered every cabinet secretary to participate in a comprehensive review of the government response to the hurricane. this government will learn the lessons of hurricane katrina. we're goingca to review every action and make necessary changes so that we are better prepared for any challenge of nature or act of evil men that could threaten our people. >> host: david jackson, what do you make of the politics there, the location, the words that the he chose, the message that he was trying to send? >> guest: i think that was ten days after the storm happened. just the reaction was this -- i just remember the bush white house kind of being stunned at the ineptitude of the response and the reaction they got. if bush was under so much heat

that he add had to address the nation and is had to do something, and, of course, that's where you got the comprehensive review. in terms of learning lessons, i think there is plenty of evidence that government officials learned lessons, and i know political candidates learned the lessons because ever since then every presidential and guber or thattorial candidate has gone out of their way to avoid another katrina. >> host: in what way? what lessons were learned by watching the response from the bush administration? >> guest: well, i'm not an emergency management expert -- >> host: no, for politics. >> guest: well, to be attentive. one thing you've seen with these storms is you saw all the governors in florida, georgia, north carolina out front early warning people to take shelter, putting people in positions, and you also saw the biden administration out there. i know president trump has a different view of it, but the fact is presidentev biden, vice president harris and government official, pete buttigieg, for example, were out on television

talking with the governors, talking with state officials and just being prepared for what they were concerned they were going to have to deal with. >> host: we're talking about natural disasters and the politics, presidential politics this morning. here's how you can join the conversation. if you're a p republican, dial n at 2020 2-7489-8001. -- 2202 2-748888-8000, and independents, 80022. and if you have been impacted by a hurricane, you can call in at 7448-80003 and talk about politics in response to natural disasters. can you -- is there anything new about this time around versus previous times that there has been an election or politics gets intermingled with a natural disaster? >> guest: i mean, president box from out of the the get go complaining about the response. i mean, i think that's relatively new.

it was just destined to be a political issue because of the way donald trump handles things. you just knew he was going to complain about the response regardless of what it was, and also the fact that it came in a politically important state, north carolina. it's ath state that trump has to hold and a state vice president harris feels she has a chance to win. so there's an intense amount of interest in the politics of the situation from the get go. so i would say the suddenness of the complaints, i would think, isis relatively new and the fact that so much of the damage was in a ball -- battleground state. >> host: what about the mediums that people use now? you've got, now, x, and we've heard from our viewers this morning talking about alleged misinformation coming out of the former president's campaign. others are saying, no, he didn't say that the -- >> guest: right. of. >> host: -- and that's not what he meant, etc. >> guest: that's a veryis good point. social media's a very important factor.

.. news. and i saw what rhonda just sent desantiswas not allowing any ael views of the damage after the fact. and i was wondering, the president always post aerial damage shortly afterward. as well as the new stations. so i was wondering is this block a political? also are mostly waterfront property owned by very, very wealthy people who can afford

the insurance in florida? stuart ossoff that david jackson is here to talk about politics and politics correspond of natural disasters. we'll take the first part of that. politics goes into the policy decisions. >> oh sure. the caller is right. wealthy land owners are going to be listened to a lot more than other people. the iconic image fromsi the stom the baseball stadiums or roof was ripped off by milton. i think we will be seeing that picture for years and years that was it t aerial shot. i do not know how people got it. there's aerial surveillance of the damage from milton. >> a new orleans democratic collar, joe? >> good morning. i experience katrina. my issue is the false

information that donald trump and fox news are giving concerning the amount of money fema gives to disaster participants. and it is just terrible how they are using their politicalli influence to spread false information. and hence, instead of the mucin and opportunity to tell people how to apply for what ever assistance that is available to them, they are telling them false information. it is disheartening to see that. i mean you have enough to deal with the fact that you have lost everything that you own. everything.er all you have is with on your back. >> was take that point. could there be blowback if of

voters, independent voters perceive this is misinformation, could this turned out to not work out so well? >> you are already seeing that people are getting on trump for politicizing it in the first place. doing it so quickly. and frankly there has been misinformation. there is a myth outma there fema took money from hurricane relief and gave it to migrants but that's not true were talking to separate a budgets. the event does provide migrant assistance but that's a separate budget does not have anything to do with hurricane relief is a myth the government is only handing out seven or $50 to residents. that's kind of like a down payment per that's in advance to try to get them toa the immediae situation the settlements in this case will be much bigger than that. stuart would talk about presidential politics and natural disaster with usa today david jackson. how would you go to 2012. you mentioned then that president obama and how he responded to hurricane sandy.

this is october 2012. president obama joining then a new jersey governor chris christie after surveying damage from hurricane sandy in new jersey. >> obviously this is a federal, state, local effort. the first thing i want to do is thank everybody who is beenev involved in the entire rescue and recovery process. at the top of my list i have to say governor christie, throughout this process has been responsive. he has been aggressive in making sure the state got out in front of this incredible storm. and, i think the people of new jersey recognize he has put his heart and soul into makingng sue the people of new jersey and bounce back even stronger than before. i went to thank him for his extraordinary leadership and partnership. want to thank the congressional delegation. part of the receipt we will be

able to respond quickly to all of this is because they help to make sure fema financing was in place. we are very appreciative of those a efforts. stuart david jackson your thoughts on how the former president then barack obama handled hurricane sandy and his relationship there at the republican governor? what is very mindful of katrina as well. he visited new orleans in 2005 to survey the damage when he was a young senator. it was obvious he was staying on top of it to reassure the voters. also he wanted to work with the governor of new jersey. he was a republican who is very critical of him and one to show people he went was willing to reach across party lines and the time a of a disaster but is very effective for use by going to's seat mitt romney anyway and certainly the way he handled sandy helped him. another situation with that kind of hurt chris christie nationally with republicans. a lot of republicans got on him

for being so cooperative with president obama during that storm. including a new york businessman named donald trump. when he ran for president in 2016 and in 2024 this was held against him, his cooperation with obama is a pretty good early indication of how politicized and stratified our country is becoming. >> if you do not cooperate with as a national disaster the federal government? >> it would've been a disaster. and several aides told me the voters of new jersey really like the way he handled sandy he walked into reelection two years after that. in terms of his constituents they were very pleased how he handled it. >> and robert in miami independent. of course it is only my opinion. i am disappointed at the biden/harris administration for them and flat-footed on more than one occasion. the train derailment the scope

and severity which is not been felt and assessed for the transportation secretary took several weeks to get there. the press corps cap asking president bite it when you going? when you going? it never happened. it was bad from an optics standpoint that he did not care thatst much. the final point was fema has responded to asheville. the point is when this all occurred it was still occurring with the water rising, president biden was on the beach in delawareen. i think the vice president was holding a large fundraiser with maga donors out in california. anyway, from an optics standpoint it was not very impressive. >> will take those points appear. >> i think vice president harris was in california as was george w. bush. when katrina hit. he did know what they're going to have to deal so they pursued

even though biden was in delaware he was in constant contact was making calls from delaware working the phones on this.e the caller is right. there always reasons or criticize the government response and that includes this case the ultimate judges will be the voters basically those in north carolina. >> own to show a littlean bit fm an interview president trump did on fox on monday night. on the biden administration response to hurricane helene. then we will show it vice president harris, at his his opt said as well. >> almost $300 billion for ukraine. and yet they're offering people set of $50 for the worse but for the worst hurricane that anyone has seen. more importantly than that they do not have the people. it is a bad, it's a very bad thing. >> how'd you do differently? as i have a tremendous team of people or they don't have the people here i was in north colletti yesterday was in

georgia. georgia is different for you have a good governor he's doing a very good job. but north carolina is a disaster. it was also hit very hard but they don't have the people and they are complaining they don't have any people around to help. that was a horrific storm. much worse. it's late in the season you wouldn't think a thing like that would happen. but you have to get the people out. i was there for the entire day and i saw virtually nobody other than the people badly affected. one man hass got a house gone e sitting on iraq. he sitting on iraq you have to help them. you have to help them monetarily also. if you look it is in virginia, it is alabama, it is south carolina was hit very hard but i spoke to a great governor there they were hit very g hard. florida it was hit very hard but quick to biden said the response has been a robust and well coordinated mr. president. [laughter] nobody says that. >> as a president biden says

because he does not know what robust is. [laughter] look, he should be there and she should be there. she should not be at a fundraiser she is out there fundraisers. >> a former president on fox in an f interview on monday night. david you heard him list states their red states ahead of the election. >> very much separate states that have republican governors who have not made these kind of complaint that trump has made it we listen to the republican governor and brian kemp inep georgia henry master and ron desantis in florida and the democratic governor roy cooper he is been very supportive of the biden administration for its been pretty critical of the way trumpets handled this. the republican officials on the ground in these red states have made the same complaints per. >> are republicans concerned about how this could impact votes in these states that are typically red, or as you pointed

out in north carolina when it is a swing state both camps are hoping to win it for. >> very much concern both parties are concerned. that's her thing about disaster politics it affects candidates but also effect on voters disasters and had a tendency to suppress the vote make it more difficult for people to vote. they're too busy to try to rebuild their lives were about a presidential election but we have seen examples of work voters and disaster there's been lower voter turnout in areas where disasters have happened. there is a lot of concern in both parties about that particular north carolina in western northar carolina. i think one of your colors mentioned earlier legislators taking steps to check it make it easier to votean exponent expand the voting hours combined precincts in that kind of thing. that's an effort being supported by both parties. asheville's very democratic area. they went to get the voters out. i think will see accommodations. >> abc that view on tuesday.

she responded to the criticism from the former president could have the biden/harris is handling these disasters. >> it is a profound and the height of irresponsibility. and frankly callousness. lives are literally at stake right now but i traveled to georgia and to north carolina after hurricane helene. in georgia i met a woman who just comic days early her husband was killed in their home by a fallen tree. days later i met with her and her daughter. you can imagine the pain, the shock they are still in what they experience, what they witnessed. we are talking about real human beings in their lives. and they are losing everything. everything. this woman lost her husband. her child lost her father.

people are losing their home with no hope of ever being able to reconstruct or return. and the idea that someone be playing a political gains for themselves but this is so consistent about donald trump. he puts himself before the needs of others. he really lacks empathy. on a very basic level to care about the suffering of other people didn't understand the role of the leader is not to beat theo people down. it is to lift people up. especially in a time of crisis. [applause] >> you hear her accuse the former president of playing politics. you heard in her comments things she has set out on the campaign trail but lifting people up is the kind of leader that you need. how could they avoid politics if politicswith they wanted to in e

running for president? don't they need to think about how the politics of what they are saying? >> i think that's a bygone era. there is a time when politics wouldpo take a risk after a disaster, 911 to think about that. covid to a degree of the beachfront people said they felt the democrats sandbagged them in the initial covid pandemic. afraid we are in a world where everything is politicized that includes storm damage. we are debating the effective response when it is just getting started there is no way to assess the capability of the biden response it's too early in the process. >> gary, republican. >> good morning. there are two ways to look at this from the information side. from both sides. i believe if anything this information has awaken the biden administration. i have said for decades how do you get a democrat to do

something? you tell them itid is an electin year. if anything you have not seen kamala harris for three and a half years and it's an election year.ye i think this country needs a moe a view of hope. they need somebody to push hope upward. >> certainly to get people to do some enduring an election year applies to all parties there is no doubt about it. it's adeptly a spur for. >> nelson in hollywood, florida independent. >> good morning. i'm actually calling on the zero three line. i'm a retired firefighter paramedic. was a first responder in hurricane andrew back in 92. i've been living in florida since 50h. i've been through a bunch of hurricanes.. i think that we as a nation are making a mistake and having

faith in the federal government to respond and should be the chief, if you will, of disasters in the i various states. fema should be there to assist the states not to take over the scenario which is causing more problems than resolving. in hurricane andrew we had a lot of help that came from the other part of florida but we have fire trucks down hear from tallahassee and jacksonville. and the people that were reestablishing the l electrical lines were from all over the country. that was not federal government. that was a local and civic help coming from other communities in the state.

fema was there to assist as a ty were in the state of florida. when they were running the scenario. as a governor to santos and may i say he's doing a very good job. it's a mistake to i think fema's going to fix the problem the federal government and politicians are always going to be politicians. thank you kindly for. >> sounds like a long debate federal power versus state power. however since the expansion of the federal government of the new deal that the debate in that the call is right that's a very good points. i guess i would say that in florida it's a little bit of a different case there hit by so many hurricanes in florida has long felt like fema is an advisory group they pride

themselves in their own ability to respond to hurricanes. that's what's happening right now for. >> governor ron desantis said we are in charge in the state. you heard the clip we played at former president george w. bush saying basically the buck stops here i am in charge here the difference. >> bush felt like he had to say that he was under so much heat. louisiana does not have as much of a tradition is fighting disasters as florida does. alo different type of governmen. different set up. i think in that case in louisiana and other studs red and blue need the assistance of the federal government. that's really not their thing. implored it disaster response is in every year occurrence. that's not the case in other states. >> in north carolina joe democratic collar. joy, were impacted by hurricane helene?? >> you know, i was not. i am near to raleigh.

we have a problem here and i do not understand it. trump is in georgia and south carolina. even schoolkids notes there were they werenot impacted like north carolina. a lot of people lost their lives and their livelihoods appear. we've got the strange situation were congressman like dan bishop and ted budd have voted against fema aid. we are always getting hurricanes that usually hit ourrr coaster. this time it came right down meg that got into our mountains. and the waters came down the hills has hundreds of miles an hour and killed all of these people. yet, these guys have voted against fema aid. >> joe are you referring to their previous years and their

votes are you are referring to this continued because your. >> know the most recent fema appropriation. >> hold up it was not just fema i believe her thinking tongue but the continuing resolution if you are talking about that folks have said you got to put that in context. some i republicans were not votg they were not voting against fema they were voting for a bill that would keep the federal government open and fund the federal government at currentve levels. fema funding was part of it. but there were a variety of for voting against it when you're a storm like this to those details matter? >> is part of the politicalization. apply thisgu came up because republicans will tell you, they told me some of their camps are getting it they supposedly voted against fema and voting is other things in this bill. also have to add after hurricane sandy was a big dispute in congress over funding and

recovery funds over that storm. it would not surprise f me if we see something similar later this year after the election. >> anthony and brooklyn republican. >> yes, why it was a fema only offering $750 to people from the disaster? >> we talked about them that before. as the initial money fema offered for immediate needs like a medicine, food, clothing for those folks. and then you have to apply for more money. that's with the number of the seven comes from. gary in new jersey democratic collar. >> yes i have a couple of questions. one, the effect of the $750 was registered from the last caller she said seven her 50 but the question is where were they spending it? up in the mountains there were nothing for there were no

stores, there was no anything. where were you taking the seven her $50 in spending it that's a little bit of a question. she did not say if that's number one. number two,d when i listen to it -- make them a little concerned as a democrat i see desantis giving regular press conferences but i am not seeing the democrat, where is he? works which democrat are talking about? >> north carolina is not giving updates. >> governor cooper? >> i am not hearing from him which concerns me too. i don't know why he is not up there giving more updates. plus talk about that the optics, an important part of how people perceive how you are handling a disaster. >> i do not know cooper's schedule has been. i've seen him on film is giving updates at least he should be an important part of it. people have to know someone is

in charge of looking after them. that's often fall into the south are some times the president buf most of the governors. both of the colors have raised the issue about the mountains. as i understand it one of things is different about the storm so many mountainous areas were affected in whole towns have been wiped out. you don't think of mountainous areas being hurricane alleys but that's what happened in this case. >> and maria and independent. >> good morning. i am listening to your program this morning. and you know, it is amazing when i listen to kamalaa harris. she goes on about what she's going to do for our country. she and biden have been in almost four years. what have they done for this country? they have done nothing. they put this country in the sewer.

now all of a sudden she's going to fix everything because it's an electionisis year. she lied. they lied to the public for a very long time. about joe biden. look at them and know this is a sick man. >> is take your comments this is a criticism the former president makes jd vance the vice president, kamala harris has not done anything in three years. she could have done something on immigration and other issues. while she is trying to take credit for the buy demonstration record they are saying she should also get the blame. >> writes. she is facing a problem many vice president's have faced over the years when they ran for president even george w.es bush faced the same kind of things for al gore. it's very difficult to be a vice president starting out on your own and trying to run your own

campaign because you are tied to the record of whoever it was the president. terrorist did not buy through the primaries and ascended to the job after president biden withdrew from the race. he's in a very unique position i do not envy her for it's a very difficult political position to be in. >> she is going to need to jump on the republicans a 2.4% wishes should be as economic signs are quite good. economic recovery do they get credit when monetary policies them by the federal reserve and independent agency?

>> that's hard to not notice the market has reacted favorably to recent fed decisions. it's being of the coach of a thewinning football team if the team does well you do well if the team doesn't do well your not get the credit. in this case the economy does seem to be coming back. to match that will benefit harrison's own way. >> democratic collar. >> yes. hello. first of all i want tooc say kamala harris is under joe biden they did a super great love for america. that's where we are the world leader. we let people like donald trump takeover, we will become a low moral nation. will be just like russia. we want to be the world's leader we are nation of god that is why we are leader. kamala harris is so much greater than trump. trump will take us to another

area. spit what we heard your point will go to donna and illinois. >> yes, hi. i like to make one comment and asked one question for the comment i would like to make is i would like to remind people that donald trump does not believe in climate change. i think it would be irresponsible of all of us to electe someone who does not evn believe in climate change. and for a question, i would like to ask i thought there was an actual law that some people, because of their position, are held to a highergh standard. i don't feel as though people should just take this for granted that donald trump tells lies about fema. i think he should be held to higher standard and why isn't he being held to a higher standard question presently got it donna.

>> on your voters every day trump is being held to a higher standard because he is running for president and his is going to judge accordingly. you made a very good point on the person because another way the politics of disastrous change is a lotit of it will brg up climate change for the storms we are seeing are fiercer than they've ever been, more powerful, more destructive a lot ofha people but you beat that to climate change andth fill the government should do something about it. i have not seen or climate change affected the outcome of an election. that's the one difference. >> what are you watching for next the response impossible fall out ofng it? >> former president trump is supposed to address the economic of detroit in the early afternoon. just theti reaction of this kind of storm and how people react to it. think that's the next big step for. >> 's florida employee? >> nobody think it will reflect george h.w. bush took florida 1982. other voters were not impressed

with the response about hurricane. think the same kind of thing. if the response is botched it will affect the voters in georgia and north carolina and some these other places progress the former president as david was just saying in michigan talk about the economy hoisted by the economic club. right here in c-span honor free video mobile apps he spent now online at c-span.org. favorite jackson national potable corresponded with usa today but thank you sir for your time. thank you. putting us this morning samantha at montana. author of the book disaster allergy dispatches from the front line of the climate crisis. she's also the massachusetts maritime academy emergency managementsi professor there. as florida wakes up this morning to the devastation of hurricane milton, what happens first on the grounds with the officials with the first