youu think it's barrier every will have more. again the idea must have proven to the rest ofer america that we are here to help grow. >> 1940 was alien registration act. and in 1952 the word white was removed from immigration, why? >> it was a tremendous accomplishment. even though i do not particularly like that while but i think is a giant step in the right direction. that agent for the first time asian immigrants like me who were not born here can finally applyco and have opportunity to become a natural citizen.

you can see the immigration especially the immigration and asia area that never graduate going up. >> 1965 we are getting some more contemporaryco times. there is a major overhaul or add-on to the immigration. >> it was a profoundly impact the law. it isd profoundly impact becaue we have not changed that much since then. that basically laid out the free market we are working with right now. one is, it really emphasized family reunification was a primary goal of u.s. immigration system but before that it was not the main goal. but after that is become a main goal and has major ramifications over a lot of problems are facing today. number two, given a priority

leaving the family category. like you are a parent, spouse, children, wait time is different. the one i like most first-time also allow for employment -based immigration. it's limited to 20 or 25%. the thirdti is the first time quota but this is the first time to beat the quota. nownd it's 1 million illegal immigrants each year. that code has barely changed since 1965.

we are now under the umbrella of 1965 goal. it's really about time we updated b it's not long enough. cook that was signed by lyndon johnson. 1986 ronald reagan signed immigration legislation. which did what? >> a so-called amnesty. it's basically a trade up his work with the democrat majority of congress. basically the trade-off was the democrat supported the border act measures on the exchange to immigrants at time was at a country. he and his party underestimated. they were confident you wait to give amnesty to everybody inside the border that we will not have much.

he did not understand people will follow the law. you give incentive to bad behaviors you will see more of it. unfortunately that's exactly what it did. well, since then members keep going up. >> given the short history that we have gone through here, where does that leave us today? with regard too immigration? >> we are in a mess. there needs to be a national sense of urgency to solve it. especially the last couple of years. not only is it a total failure it is also poisoned the poison l wheel to reach an immigration is

illegal immigrant we don't have a voice in this debate. every time you turn on the news channel every discussion you have with someone else because every time i'll people can think of and talk about our immigration. nobody wants to talk a a about illegal immigration. i fundamentally believe unless we have this workable relationship and offer the right incentive we know who's coming here. we need to create a win, win situation. unless you have a path like that to incentivize illegal behaviors. so i really, really want us to come back, to offer the right incentive and not come to the

back doors. it is a mess. >> the first two items and the republican platform for the 2024 election. number one seal the border, stop migrant invasion. number two, carry out largest deportation in american history. what you think of those? >> i think for the very first bullet points are two-part boats a second seal the border and quests stop migrant invasion and the word invasion. >> i do not like the word invasion. because we know this. wewe know economic migrants there's definitely bad actors with malicious intent to hurt america. we know that to. they have that capability to

cause harm. but a majority of the immigrants that come here for economic. they are not a religion army. it causes innovation. i do agree we need to strengthen our border. because right now when we have the border then you have a border agent who is supposed to know they are all in processing centers people processed goods. and they are not protecting our borders. i can only agree withf, the firt point. i really wish they could come to differenton terms. on immigration issues we have a hard time to went over both

immigrants and america. because of that reason. we need to learn to talk about immigration. and the second one i definitely disagree on deportation. we definitely should report people who are signed up with the criminal a history or crimes in america. but unfortunately the last three and half years comes a 10 million people. who knows where they are. logistically workable. i think again we talk about compromise. it'sa not it's a national security issue it is a commodity issue so many americans, we need

to compromise from both sides. we cannot to continue to do or say things political wills to be able to do this. things are only going to get worse and worse. we, as a country cannot afford to keep going on like this. >> at the second addition of the broken woke amount. what did you update? >> illegal immigration portion what's happening the last three and half years. also especially on asylum. i don't think of the words is a big deal. in this new addition to the great alliance and go back in the history especially with an

example. it was toward the end of the george w bush second presidency that u.s. congress the past the human trafficking law. unaccompanied minor cross the border illegally, we must protect them, not send them back. which again is ane incentive. even those with all the good intentions to protect minors. that became an incentive for both traffickers as well as families with their home economic conditions and sending minors across the border. now we have a huge problem involving hundreds and thousands of children came across the border illegally. and our administration is not as

accurate kids in cage. and recently as the congressional theory whistleblowers of hhs homeland security came forward and talkes about how the biden administration optic with kids in the cage. these prematurely who to release the kids too. it turns out our government is releasing minors to human traffickers release them to child labor or constitution. consider protecting kids choosing we have to protect the

kids. or in a humanitarian crisis. so this is again we have to go back to how we rate each law in oneof the unintended consequenc. i really update quite a bit. >> here is the book it's called the broken welcome mat. americus on and met un-american immigration policy and how we should fix it. the author is helen raleigh. thank you for. >> thank you peter. >> if you are enjoying book tv sent of our newsletters is the qr code on the screen to receive a schedule of upcoming programs, author discussion book festivals and more. book a tv every sunday on cspan2 or anytime online apple tv.org. television for serious readers.

weekends on cspan2 are an intellectual feast. every saturday american history tv documents america story. on sunday at book tb brings you the latest nonfiction books and authors. funding for cspan2 comes in these television companies and more including charter communication. >> charter is proud to be recognized as on the best internet providers. we are just getting started building 100,000 miles of new infrastructure to reach those who need it most. >> charter communications along with these television companies support cspan2 as a public service. >> joining us on bookon tv is george gilder. he has been a frequent guest of ours. mr. gilder you have a written, what 50 books? one hundred i presented them on economics is that a fair assessment? >> 21 books probably depending

upon how you interpret it. >> all on economics? >> sexual suicide it was about sex i got interested in money later and then move down to technology and most of my books have been about technology. technology, money, crypto currency and i think you interviewed me with life at google. >> several times put your most recent book how would you describe the israel test cap israel's genius enriches a challenge as the world? what category would you put this book in? >> it is history. it is a philosophy. it is major capitalism. it's the sources of our superabundance.

it's the israel test of the new addition isro introduced by dens prager. his prager university per university is how do you respond to people who expel you and success achievement, wealth, intellect, do you envy them? hate them and do you feel they somehow diminish you? or do you emulate them, admire them, and use them as

inspiration and learn from them? and collaborate with them? and that is the essential israel. >> do you see israel as a country should be emulated? >> yes. israel is the great economic miracle in the world economy. it is per capita income for arabs and jews. it is higher than germany's. or britons, or france, or japan. it's the source of many key technologies that drives the u.s. economy. people often imagine that somehow israel is dependent on us. it's just as true the u.s. is dependent on the genius of israel for most of graphically

growing companies in the u.s. economy. for example, intel is where we need semiconductor companies. intel is really in israeli company. they invented the integrated circuit. the integrated circuit and the microprocessor. but they did not succeed in supportingar intel in its early years. the earlier intel with the non- memories,e those are flash memories. what we call flash memories now. that were invented by an israeli that was one of the key figures in the early intel group. all the prophets for the first several years of intel came from

these memories. they have been established which is where intel chips leading edge chips are manufactured and many of the microprocessors were designed at the israel design center. of coursen intel is an american company but it's also in israeli company. google is a google maps and everything. google weighs as an israeli company bought by google which makes possible all of the features of google maps.

google has intel i'm sorry, ibm has crucial design centers. many of our leading medical technologies astrazeneca, all of the various were invented and israel largely. sdi i was a great advocate i actually showed ronald reagan his first microchip and said this would enable strategic defense to intercept missiles as they came in. u.s. never really developedto s. there was too much democracy. israelis were partners from the

beginning. then they created iron dome and david sling and really the strategic defense of vindication of reagan's vision. intersecting missiles from iran and the current war in the middle east.t. see what in fact to write that when it comes to that issue should ever occur and all out missile attack against the u.s., israeli technology will be the reason we will likely survive. george you say the israel test is also a book about philosophy. what do you mean? >> might favorite chat there probably and jon was the originator of information

theory. he was also the key figures in the manhattan project. which date america during the second world war. jon started as an ally who believed in that determine thist mathematical model of the universe. and vannoy men gives proof back in 1931. an it showed no intellectual system, no conceptuall system cn function without propositions outside the system that cannot

be reduced to the system. and the anointment was hilbert's chief ally. realize youou will offered it. no one in the room really understood its significance. he abandoned the scheme and it was his life in pursuit. and decided distributive computation would be profitable. you could have as many computers as there were human minds. andan that was all ultimately reliance on you could not have a system, a

determinate system that explained everything. you could not have a singularity as they call it now in artificial intelligence. and jon vannoy men who really invented the computer model and also which is massively parallel processing that you find in the data centers he also invented thated model. he also wrote the key paper that explained neural networks. but anyway, it was essentially understanding that all intellectual activity depends on faith in a meaningful universe.

and i tell that story in a chapter of the israel test. >> is one of the world's most profitable economies built on one of the world's most barren territories. israel challenges all of those materialist superstitions based on the distribution of natural resources and exploitation of land and labor. >> this is israel and anybody else gets about 1% of the middle east. and yet the economy is worth half a trillion dollars or more. in the market cap is bigger. that's a key force in the world economy.ul and it shows ultimate wealth from humanan minds.

jewse are .04% of the world's population. half the nobel prizes are won by jews seven out of the top 10 richest men in the world are jews. jews lead many of the leading companies all around the world. this is why the world faces in israel test. whether you admire these people and learn from them and collaborate with them and expand your own opportunities and your own horizons. our weather youhe try to tear tm down. and that's really the israel test. on that insult my book is about. >> you right central air of israel's defenders is to accept

the finding of the debate. whose idea is peace depends on marginal perpetually elusive improvement in israel's. it's really absurd this is my latest version it's revised and updated a lot. there's a new introduction by dennis prager. when ihe first said the first edition,ar i gave a speech in ts synagogue. and after it ended one of the people gave me this little beat up a volume published in the

1940s. he wasn't agricultural economist in the roosevelt administration. he was responding to the crisis of the dustbowl which was a real climate catastrophe back in the 1930s which was threatening american agricultural production and wreaking havoc. he went around the world for the department of agriculture. ended up in israel made the desert bloom. it's expounded in detail with agricultural, agronomy israel

still makes it leads the world will its economy 60 times its productivity by a factor of hundreds. its use of w water is actually diminished 10%. it's agricultural production is up 16 fold. but its use of water is actually down 10%. israel shows water crisis or a resource crisis or population crisis or whatever are all empty

if you affirm the genius of human being inventing new technologies and making the deserts of our lives bloom with new possibilities and capabilities and opportunities. new horizons for human creativity. >> will more quote instead what we find in the u.s. is not the immense gratitude the insidious state detailing the flaws having built the preeminent high-tech economyst on amiri 4% of middle eastern territory is somehow too big in staunch israel supporters tend to bend over backwards to

concede israel deserves intense criticism for much of its behavior. >> it is an amazing thing to observe. israel has been invaded six or seven times over the years from the same. somehow they are to blame for all responding to the sixth terrorist invasion, living arabn the world. there are more than 2 million of them. and they are of.