books in the children's books. books such as antiracist baby baby's a book called woke there's a feminine baby all these books aimed at little kids. 5-year-old guides to genderli identity.th too serious not binary is not somethingit people children can possibly comprehend. it's adults trying to indoctrinate and impose their religious values on the young. you can have them forif life. it's common sense. that was a reaction to that. and it says it all. my little book of activism you demand that they learn. my idea was to try to -- you can

make it funny. maybe the movement will collapse.e it looks like it's on its way to collapse by the way. not anytime soon but it will eventuallyly fall note incoheret movement can stay too long. >> hundred awoke in my personal bookma do in the marketplace? >> really well. particularly in the first one. i was ousted in the at the altar in the book weeks release. it was not my choice. ng about i. so it's all very and there was a lot of and i was on the joe rogan podcast talking about it. so it a big book but it also generated lot of anger obviously from the activists because no it likes to be mocked it's the thing they don't >> we don't make remarks at all

and so i got a lot of anger and comments online. because it comes with the territory i also think that i would be doing something very wrong come the hatred. this might be. >> and you can see the month gb news, was a free-speech nation there is no spoke with none rezoning how religion and social justice captured the western world and thank you for staying a few minutes with a. >> thank you. >> entering is about to be his daughter of 25 plus books mark skousen, will get to those amenities off of the founder of this maturing gathering called freedom press and mark skousen, how did this get started. >> actually 2007, maybe earlier this month big president of the foundation of magic and all this

premarket think tank but it's kind of fell into obscurity with cato and heritage and reason being the really big libertarians conservative conservative definitive-organization and i was like will continue to jumpstart this and i said let's have a national convention list with the most libertarian see the world, las vegas is a big success we had 850 people show up and then ben stein is a keynote speaker. and fourthly come as i get a fundraising itself and last for your beloved of the idea of getting together like this and so i started a for-profit organization called freedom fast is that free fast and would be going great guns ever since. we have a couple of thousand people's whatever your biggest they shut us down 2020, for the next year we went to mount

rushmore a and we had a great either. but a hugeth turnout. then we went back to vegas and illustrate memphis, so we know do every other year in vegas and the rest of the time, we go to the city. >> what a people get. >> this year's federal renaissance gathering so we taught philosophy history and science and technology not just politics as we have rfk coming the hearing party on presidential debate with all of the third parties who has shown up in the two major parties have not shown up. so that's kind o' frustrating coveted they're not willing to debate third-party candidates pretty and i guess rfk has criticism of major parties. some of the people they get out of income up this incredible feeling to get together like-minded individuals who have maximum freedom within the roadblock the system of natural

liberty within the rule of law we want maximum freedom. to choose your occupation, decide what you want to go, to a price you pay. you hire, you fire, maximum freedom, that's what this conference is all about and so we attract people wind up a little libertarian conference, we call it the largest gathering of remind us to be imposed when we don't want you here. but the come anyway. summa prior to getting involved in the freedom fast, what was your occupation. >> i slammed right an investment newsletter forecast strategies published by eagle publishing of doing is the latest president of the 20th citrus was elected so who with debbie smith in your view on the right it. >> that's correct summer 1980, i send my newsletter going for 44 years has been major interest income and i mean writing this letter pretty and also i am a

professor and it will be chair freeri enterprise at chapman university as of thet covenant,a business call from the university, barnard college rollins college, noah chapman university. >> he also talks world. >> i i taught at simpson penitentiary, for 12 years as an inmate, but as a teacher. and as a. volunteer braided that was an incredible experience of my wife and i were much involved with inmates who are maximum state prisons pretty i was going to see their lives change is not just about changing their lives so that when they get out the not going back to the same crimes and citizens the right with our program of education, a

3 percent versus 6070 percent traditionally and so is been very successful program and we were glad we were part of it. >> mark skousen you are the author of 25 of the best books with mostly in politics or economicsic that singapore economic the politics be regulated spoke with "there we giants in the land." what is about. >> so this is a story in his own words, i've cleon skousen and cleon skousen was when i regarded the giant in the land. the more known in the west faces salt lake city, any nation wide programs and very much involved with the fbi in a special assistant to jay hoover and the fbi he was assigned to help. assigned as a special assistant to hoover there on december 7,

1941, when japan attacked pearl harbor. so use the communications director for jay hoover at that time. when is assigned to the los angeles bureau and he was assigned to hollywood. dealing with the whole anti-communist movement that time. also organized crime, and some incredible stories here about him with nikki cohen and siegel and people like that printed and so it is quite an interesting book i think for my perspective but it is also basically, in the story, this is all in his words and my wife and i joanne, his english professor, we took all of his private journals we compiled open can compile the reduced to five and pages of his own story inn his own words yeta

lot of photographs and some like that is really cool us that you can see that if you take my hat off, i put my glasses on, there's quite a a resemblance. >> let's see if we can get closer that 20s right the book about drupal is a tribute. >> twenty could call it a labor of love right. to put it a general audience get out of it. >> there's a lot of well it is a great story about motivational story, to minimize because cleon skousen was born cleon skousen and alberta canada, and he kind of became you know like a lot of these people ben franklin one of the other great leaders stuff they started with nothing to build upp an empire. he was empire builder and he was

implement and it ancestors and they built roads and so forth he was very much and entrepreneur but firmly convinced he was born in 1913. and he, had me become come into the 1913 because three legislations occurred in 1930, so bad legislation and he was there to reverse it. when avenue 1913 of the income tax, the federal reserve was created and finally, the measure which amendment the constitution has direct election of senators instead up by state legislatures and he thought these were all bad and so he worked hard his whole life to reverse these and guess what, he failed on all three counts despite all of his effort and yetay he was always n optimist because i tell the

story at the end of his life, people would ask, and a jd degree, fbi agents had to have a degreeee law, so cleon skousen w can you beth so optimistic if at all of the terrible things that heavenly in the world was religious is the question that i've read the book and in the end, we head back of optimism there motivational stories and the fbi and the stories with organized crime. with hollywood that i know you have a story which is about when actors very supreme and giving a lot of money to the communist party 1940 and so my j edgar

hoover set which is a picture from to olivia and i want you to thank her for her wonderful role she needs to know that the communist are glad and she's to learn about the american story can you do that for me cleon skousen makes an appointment with the fbi andoe she afraid he said he loved me a devoted follower of america should not give many to be communist party and she said but they're my best friends of the really supportive and i'm really support them something you very much tell hoover of thank you but i'm going to say with it and hoover will solicit but before we leave reporting here and secretly we been taking the meetings ofti te communist central party your name comes out and in this recording here as you listen to most about the comeback you feel

the same way but take the recording you'll never hear from us again this is you listen to the recording she comes outside and swearing like a mule skinner and she said, i can't believe these people are calling me moneybags destitute and know how to take advantage of olivia and she said i will have nothing to do with them ever again. by the way cleon skousen said to not publish the story until after i love you guys i'm not sure why but in case, she lived to be like 100 years old. [laughter] andy so forcefully, she has passed away as the story is there snickers chapter near public friendship black panther elder cleaver. >> so cleon skousen always had a witness for people who use the communist and he was involved need to fleetr the country becae

he was involved in some burgers during the 60s and 70s but test the black panthers someone a revolutionary group that engaged in violence and so on. not ideologically anything in common with cleon skousen. another hundred the changing came back to the united states elected a communist country or something like that. now what is expected to be so eldridge cleaver came back and changed his mind about life in communism he rejected it any different but uncle cleon skousen and he went around giving speeches together pictures of them together and so forth.he the problems things like thatths so inin the end, the friendship disintegrated but it was remarkable story.

>> is just a little bit "there we giants in the land." episodes the length of cleon skousen freedom just better mark thousand and thank you for being with us be back my pleasure thank you peter. >> and robin snyder is with us, to talk about this notebook you can do is speak your mind america, mr. sign would you doing here first of all is libertarian convention. >> in figure it would be necessary to havear freedom fest the united states of america. i think this freedom itself well we wouldn't be necessary however, it does the state of our politics in the state of current administration and the culture has a festival for freedom and i think that is very telling. >> free speech and have you had

trouble with the issue of priestly. >> i've had in trouble but i think the people have a problems now unfettered free speech. the whole idea of free speech going back to know the free speech advocates and champions, free speech and all of it or for none of it and so, you know the role for free speech if you agree to them, so the free speech stuff they don't like it has to be all of it. this messier for you know when you start to get into people's feelings and protecting people, who gets to decide with the free speech is so i think it's pretty thing is all of the events i never all of it. >> new book the ability for humans to have free unfettered

speech, it's remarkably short and rare and for the privilege of dancing again soon if you look at the history of humanity, there is been a real sustained time for this individual in particular liberty, there's a reason our founding fathers in the united states made the first amendment and they could've made it guns first they seem to think thatth they wanted to armed citizens three with something that they could really themselves and that is what the ability to stand up against potential tyranny and actual tyranny from their own government pretty important to deliver think of a lifetime, that could be under attack that it is pretty think we come over and on musk on the right you know journalist actual generous

that and michael shellenberger, that they meant to expose actual infringement on the first movement rights of americans through the twitter files with the biden administration went directly with google and with you to would twitter. and facebook really undermine her first amendment and the sensor those that disagree with and so while people will say that free speech does not come free from consequences predict well it's true. he worked for a company and they don't like you they can fire for the government can't do they did an absolutely no consequences for this administration. in an essay to missouri went to the supreme court the supreme court did not defend free speech in the most recent missouri

versus the biden administration rolling came out two weeks ago so you think free speech is certainly better attack in our own country. >> the very best comedians writer will be up a saying, this is what is happening talk about this like google before we accept this as part of our culture. >> will i think in the book, only talking a comedy because i do think that if something is happening in society, that is crazy, we need to at least ask now look at this before we just adopt a part of the culture. before we weather's been allowed in women's restrooms or whether you know deciding what can be quantified this free speech.

at least we should discuss these things comedians have a good way of doing it. because some of l the audience doesn't like to either laugh or they don't and they laugh you wantbe to something. maybe getting further but i would say like the smoke you know social justice they talk about us in the book policies and social justice, it is a broken house of cards. as a trojan horse terminus else but who would be against social justice, the truth of the matter is just redressing former tierney that is kind of well kind of it is communism. it is control. yet it is trying to rein in people's individual liberties for servicing that mr. steiner have you gotten in trouble with your company. >> well if you can't quantify what trouble is. >> and even checked out. >> hello that you sit down okay will yes try to hear i'm still

performing but i think that one thing comedians are my purpose as i become well i did not start up in show business to become a destructor against new societal waves of oddness which is what i call it. but yes, i think i can be an interrupter disruptor? does come at some cost. soe like i'm going to get a ber commercial in time soon. your neck out there, and when oprah decided to support barack obama for president she knew it would cost money. anything you put yourself into the political bring it does pretty but i feel the higher cost is to not say something. socially get kids north them to enjoy the same career opportunities andor same freedos that i've enjoyed.

>> and you have been pretty active in social media especially inn boxing here as opposed my family of california moved into the free state of arizona becauseie individual libertieser were trampled in the guise of liberal and etc. etc. >> that's exactly right and i think that i know that the individual research trampled on. if the, government shut down yor business insight were protecting your was forhe your help and income is always for health or safety that the infringement starts and during the pandemic i got out of california because i realize that it was time to go and interestingly, you would think that i'm the pandemic and disruption of businesses, restaurants, we don't't even knw and we will know for decades the actual trauma the children went

at two try to mask -year-old deductive atck a schol and you know, the children out in front of starbucks trying to get bogged on the wi-fi and computer they did not have at home schools is pretty sad sign of what was happening and so yes i think that the legislatures in these states have not been anything to rated the emergency powers of the government pretty getting status on that. some of the words mean up to do this again soon as people stand up for the liberties and freedoms and help freedoms speech of trampled during the pandemic it was oneil of the ons there was silence billion. unless people stand up for freedom the nonpoint habit. >> i want to say this, you endorsed robert f kennedy.

>> yes he's actually talking about issues that matter to people. we have two candidates former president donald trump and president biden really are not talking about houses new generation of kids going to be a little affordable and only going to bring me interest rates down. how are we going to write in black rock and vanguard state street from buying up so many homes causing the price of rents to risewh in american 2054 perct of children american children suffer from chronic illness. we need to get a handle on the fact that her agencies and their governmental agencies whether it's food and drug administration weather's environmental protection agency, have too much with the food and drug administration they too much influence was too much a revolving door between industry and regulatory forces this is actually affecting americans

with third of the americans who are obese we need to handle things that actually affect americans. robert kennedy is thend only candidate is really talking about these crucial issues. smith knew about is how you can do it, speak your mind america menu author robin snyder and will spend a few minutes with us here on book tv. >> thank you for having me feedback if you're enjoying book tv, this is for newsletter using the qr code on the screen, received a schedule of upcoming programs other discussions book festivals and more of a book tv every sunday and "c-span2" anytime on booktv.org. television for serious readers. >> weekends on "c-span2" are an intellectual feast, every saturday american history tv, documents america stories that

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warriors, for adults and this is another book specifically for adults read that is my target audience because try to reach the parents of an open their eyes to understanding and educating your children yourself is the greatest giftyo you give yourself. the education of the child is not only about the education of the child which is with us school system tells us come there only about e educating children. but if you talk to any teacher, you should hear from them on a national, have so much on this and i would so blessed to have these children that can come alongside watch them grow whenever an appearance to willingly give up that tremendous gift my children i have three they're all grown. they have taught me so much. you brought such enrichment my life, that when they were teenagers and finally well when i homeschool them for a while,

and i realized how the feeling it was ms richness that brought into my life and became angry thatat the school for trying to think that way for me and from trying to run me from that is so i've said this the schools of raw the culture and family unit pretty is dangerous to our republic because as a building block of our nation and we lose the family, which we are in the process of wondering, we lost a lot. >> you said you homeschool your children for a while tonight after i had done it for a while, i started have the realizations be back to the story kitty garden and homeschool. >> is so actually, until my oldest winter percent second grade in a second right, during second way to realize the school was just not as academic and i had thought should be i'm an academic public we go to the

good public schools the gun was in california which isal you knw fascination her second alas in the nation. in the whole school experience a look at the entire school in the back my son was going to be a very good bully and he was awesome and he's very powerful and can get anybody to do anything like he is very persuasive he would he was in first grade always fifth-graders knew his name and he was on his way i do not like the attitude that became public. so it was such as the academic some sort of the whole package. not sure this the best thing to remember picking him up wednesday teacher telling me well so great because the sun actually misbehavedmi a child is something that it would rub off on him and worked pretty and it was like not his job like i went

here it is asking too many questions they so excited about learning so i realized the basically their focus was behavior management and my focus was academics summa next was kindergarten. the public school and it took about how well is a preschool place calledd kindergarten just want to be fun and half-day time. as unto me that it was 16, she said to be mobbed by i think that ial realize now where i learned that i was stupid. i was in kindergarten. so they were doing things and firm of the class we should probably the worst thing they could possibly very shy girl hundred for the class tester. and shehe did not perform as wel as she had wanted. t they laughed at her and tell you like i picked her u