and my own here in montgomery data fentanyl overdose. our economy, our military, we don't need more washington insiders engaged in the gridlock we've seen. real people going to washington to bring about real results of the district. everybody is from the state but as i got older, and they are

responsible for you being in their home. your job is to not be a congressman or congresswoman, your job is not to be democrat or republican, it's an administration. your job is to represent the people. to represent the men and women retirees workers like your job is to represent the people of alabama. the people of montgomery and of the people of greenville. citizen is a child of alabama that needs government leaders.

>> they don't have healthcare access whether or not you are democrat or republican. and it became law. and work across the aisle on the first and foremost ceiling district to the higher education

in the district. >> montgomery and i me not because this place that america owes so much. >> might be jailed, beaten, we might lose our job, have our homes blown up. the people of montgomery stood up and said no, enough is enough. the people of montgomery made america look in the mirror and ask yourself the question being.

the high remake america be true? montgomery is the reason we have the freedom that we love, montgomery is the reason that happened. what is meant for this nation and for this world. it remained at the top and they have the resources it needs ended economically viable.

and i will be there to make sure. in trying this community thrives over can be. i'm so grateful for this chamber for all it does to bring opportunity to this area. whether it's the air national guard, the legacy of the civil rights movement or the whitewater park, we have to fight to ensure this community is thriving. that means ensuring we bring more businesses here and get our economy back on track and we support the rail extension and

that will alleviate the 250,000, 18 wheelers old i 55 that so vital to ensure continued growth and capabilities of not just montgomery but the state. it is and addressing our community. and counting the number of gunshots we hear on a weekly basis. every single family and ensure that regardless of this code and

city every young person and every child illicitly has the opportunity to pursue 21st century job. >> national security. >> it extends beyond the strength of our military. we had a crisis when it comes to his levels in the same level of truths as we didn't 1940 even though our population has doubled. there is also a morale issue and will have to work to address it we have to have strength in our commander-in-chief. his we've invited aggression from those for our country's and

it's evident in the attacks from yesterday but national security isn't just about military strength, it's about food security and ensuring continues to grow and provide resources we need in our country. it's also about our energy security. the biden-harris administration has been crushing american energy. they stopped drilling on federal land in just those two have had an enormous impact on our energy dominance in the world. our infrastructure is in matter of national security. ...

>> we have to have confidence in the president commander-in-chief as your number one priority is to protect people in the united states here at home. we have to make sure not putting something in the white house that's literally insane. make sure were not dealing with, not putting something in the white house caters to dictators, who admires people in rogue nations like russia and north korea. so i agree we certainly must do that. we must prioritize it. look, our military is my opponent alluded alluder the our recruiting goals. but the handling question is why? over 70% of children or young men and women 17-24 is an eligible. the filter meet the basic eligibility criteria. that is not a problem created by

joe biden. that is a problem that has been generations in the making. we must do everything that we can to bolster that population. we must also be responsible and understate our national security interest that the people were going to go fight wars of the united states incipit award, come from community is like your district two, fascist republishes have to reflect that and have a true understanding of who actually will fight the wars of the session. >> social security. >> got to protect at 100%. we had to stand by. social security program is something too many families for a lot of families in this district and in this country rely on. social security has to keep up with inflation come has to be something that is to protect our seniors as they age, as he get older they get something they were told would be there for them. something they were told would be there for them when the aged out if they did the things the country as an expected of them. they paid into a program. eligibility for so security is

67. while some of the? as i stated in alabama your own expected to live to just past your 60s. 71, 72. we need to make sure we are taking serious that healthcare access to make sure people are around longer to read the benefit of the program they paid into for 30, 40, 50, 60 in some cases. we have to protect it. we can't afford cuts to appear we can't afford cuts through other language looking lb could save costs cost overall with these programs. no. we were not asking people to save while they were working. we certain veteran service should be asking to change expectations are with us brookins going to put up for them. too many thumbs rely on it. too many elderly citizens here in the state and district and around this country rely on it and we need it to be there for them. we must make it sustainable and make the changes and modifications necessary to make sure it is a program that will be there going into the future. >> caroleene dobson also

security. >> i will fight tooth and nail to protect social security benefits for those who on social security, for those that have been paying into the system for years, relying on this as a source of income during their golden years. folks have spent their lives giving back to their communities and working hard to make it better. what my opponent doesn't mention is that folks on the left like him have been fostering policies that threaten social security. he mentions inflation. that means your solstice could be dollars don't go as far. inflation that's been caught by reckless government spending and crushing american energy policies of this administration. another threat to social security is our open border policy. when we have eight to 10 million non-taxpayer with come here in the last three and half years that puts a strain on our resources. there is a finite amount of money in social security and we have non-taxpayers that it just arrived competing against folks

in district two have spent their entire lives working and contributing to social security best that's just not fair and it's not right and i will fight to secure our borders. another issue is a fact we're not doing enough to create jobs, to bring people into the workforce. this administration has not incentivized people to get back to work since covid. in alabama we have a workforce participation rate of 57%. 57%. when we had 43% of eligible workers who are not contributing to the social security system and yes, we are going have a problem but i will fight for solutions across the board for social security. >> caroleene, border protection. >> as i just mentioned, emigration is an issue that has been killing opportunity in our country, killing our young people literally 100,000 100,000 americans died last year a fentanyl overdose at fentanyl again is mention cannot really be important to the u.s. so it's coming across our southern border at this been manufactured

in china. it's also made our communities less safe. there are young people have died in this district at the hands of illegal aliens who are drunk driving, who have been apprehended multiple times and released. the policies of this administration are nonsensical when you look at the fact that we have to secure borders in order to keep our country secure. and the solutions that have heretofore been offered by this administration don't do enough. they leave the borders open without any vetting process for the first few thousand immigrants who come across. i can guarantee you the cartels will ensure their drug runners are first in line. there are been over 300 members of isis that it been apprehended due to this open border policy. those are the ones we've e to catch. more recently this week we've heard from the border patrol directly that we have hundreds

of thousands of criminals that have come across our border for the sake of our country come for the sake of our committees here in district two we've got to secure the border. >> border security. border protection commissar. >> we have to protect the board and has been based on facts. has to be based on actual facts and not fear, that efforts to drum up here about lies and conspiracy theories but we have a petition to protect reported that he must make those investments. we must do more for the acquaintance down at the border. i family that is more quickly to senator fischer from the maturity. i get from the on the phone and hear the text messages. i've been down there. as a staff writer for contracted legislation. ended up resulting in more resource going to the border. i've been a part of bipartisan negotiations to bring those resources and those reform plans to fruition. the most recent one of which i

would say drafted by one of the most conservative senators in the united states, james lankford out of oklahoma had a vipers border point drafted pretty to go. you know who tainted? my opponents isil, donald trump. he said no because they would rather run on a problem than work on a solution. we have to go to washington again to find solutions to work on solutions for must give them the resources they need. on the border. we must reform our asylum process. we must reform our legal pathways to entry into this country, i we must take serious that obligation and we can do it and will get. >> ninety seconds to discuss immigration reform. >> immigration reform. look, as a just said, it's a multifaceted issue in something that is challenging, something we know, everybody's been great at did find a problem. but as just mentioned, president trump is hell-bent on stand against the solutions. even solutions crafted and

drafted by his own party. we must reform our asylum program. we know that is a large part of the large numbers we see at the border but we also must recognize the facts. here are the facts. here are the facts. we had less border encounters indicate your average of president obama and we did in the four-year term of donald trump. why is that? we at smarter border policies that were rooted in fact. the route provided in the sucrose sources that we did. went reform. we have to reform. after expand the legal pathways to entry to this country. we have to. it makes sense to do. we can protect reported t sacrificing the foundational values of america is, who america is. we can do it. my opponent mentions the border. what she fails to mention a motherboard is in her early legal career she spent time in texas selling millions of acres of our order state land in texas that shouted companies owned by mexican investors. as of that is something that we have to understand elliot

anderson the release of it that border protection doesn't just become an issue and not being paid to do. so we have to make sure with smart border patrol, i mean border protection policies, reforming our immigration system in a manner that makes sense and reflect the true values of this country. >> caroleene, immigration reform. >> first i want to clarify, i was a real estate attorney and help a mexican company that was fleeing from the cartel that moved to legally buy some office buildings. wasn't quite millions of acres, but what i will say is we do have a border crisis and my opponent points to the obama administration for what he fails to mention is the biden administration of which he was part of use part of the transition team that flung open our borders and is resulted in less safe communities and a strain on resources in our country. the trump administration lost track of 1400 miners at the border. to me that is unacceptable. any child lost track of at the

border is unacceptable. but the biden administration, they lost track of 320,000 children at the border. we have got to get our borders secure and we've got to ensuring that we are not continuing the humanitarian and national security crisis that was created by the biden-harris administration, again, of which my opponent was part. meaningful immigration reform though also means we've got to incentivize people to want to come here legally. there are a number of businesses whether its agriculture, construction, transportation in this district that rely on migrant workers. right now that process is overly cumbersome. there are quotas on the process. meaningful immigration reform also means we need to reward those who want to come here. >> government spending. >> look, , you and i have to balance our budget and that's becoming harder and harder to do

in this economy because of rising inflation. because of crushing regulation. but our government doesn't seem to acknowledge that. we've got so many washington insiders that are more concerned about funding washington, are more concerned about paving the path to power than they are about empowering our communities. the reality is we're headed towards the financial cliff. to be clear, again as i said earlier i will fight for funding for our health care, for our schools, for our infrastructure. we need funding in this district but we also have to spend responsibly. this administration has been throwing money at reckless initiatives. again $7 billion for electric vehicle charging stations of only about a dozen have been

built and which do not improve the quality of life of folks here in this district. we are $35 trillion in debt. that's the equivalent of debt payments of billions of dollars a year and if we have any hope of getting inflation curved and bring about economic success, prosperity to a country, we've got folks that are willing to balance the budget. >> shomari, government spending. i get ottawa took her face and is a very important point. she said that land deal that should work out for mexican company purchasing land over 40 state of texas was somebody playing for cartel. the rounds of this is land that was used to secure $100 billion portfolio loan. that's one hell of an office building. i think the realities of it that it was not that. the reality of it is that private sector, you were a a l estate attorney and help secure deals something borderland to

shouted companies owned by mexican investors. which is, that's your business in the private sector. what will we cannot do, will be kennedy is now considered safe, safe that we have the solutions to secure our borders and when that is what we spent our careers doing. government spending something that's important, very important. again if something went to analyze through the lens of actual fact. that order is not something which is trumped up. that is laid out on what appoints website as a career achievement. but we have to understand this. we have to understand this. that in the trumped initiation even removing overspending, he at almost $5 $5 trillion to e american deficit. you know how much joe biden has done? about two. about two. so we have to understand that we have an obligation to make our

government spending responsible and effective but also to address this through the lens of reality. >> shomari which is support codifying roe v. wade federal? >> absolutely. i do not believe that it is the government role to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body. i think it's pretty simple. if you don't leave an abortion if you don't want an abortion don't have one. but it is not the role of government and politicians to be telling women what they can and cannot do with their bodies. we've seen the results of the responsible regulation and laws in this respect. even something as basic as ivf, is being able to help families be able to create life themselves with the help of doctors and the help of science and the help of modern technology. has come under question into doubt because of the laws that we pastor in the state of alabama. something had to try to scramble to try to rectify and still didn't quite rectify it. i don't think it stops there. what will be next is contraception coverage i don't think that's an illogical

assessment of what is likely to occur if this goes on. the fact of the matter is of this. women are equipped to make those healthcare health care decisions for themselves. they don't need government. they don't need politicians. they don't need a president. it'll be conquered. they don't need a senate to tell them what they can and cannot do with their own body. that is a decision that is personal, that is a decision that should between them, their god, their family in light of their own circumstances to be able to make that own personal choice himself. so that is a decision that i 100% hundred% believe should be left to women. >> caroleene, would you support codifying roe v. wade federal? >> the supreme court in the dobbs decision ruled that abortion is an issue that is best left to states. i stand by that decision. i'm pro-life. i believe in exceptions to abortion for the cases of rape, incest and the life of the mother but this is an issue

that's best left to state legislators to decide with compassion, consensus, and common sense. when it comes to the issue of ivf though, we have seen senator britt here from alabama propose legislation that on a national level would ensure access to ivf across the country, and we saw democrats vote that down because they want to maintain this issue as a campaign rallying cry. i have friends and family who have utilized ivf, the god-given technology to bring the miracle of life into this world. and i will be a fierce advocate for ivf. i would love to introduce legislation in the house that mirrors senator britt to ensure that we can allow people to utilize this technology, to grow their families. but again the left is politicizing this issue. what they don't want you to know is that they have a very extreme

position when it comes to abortion. kamala harris was on many democrat senators all the two the voted against the born alive act in 2019 which would have ventured in a baby born in hospital is entitled medical care. the democrats to watch him that they are the extreme on this issue. >> you have 90 more seconds to discuss ivf. >> well, perfect lead-in. i'm so grateful for senator britt work on this issue. and i'm grateful for the state legislature for acting quickly in the wake of the supreme court decision here in alabama to ensure access to ivf. and even in those ensuing weeks between supreme court decision here and action by the state legislature there were countless women who were in the process of ivf, which is, it's a very emotional taxing and extensive experience that that were forced to wait or delay the process of

trying to bring life into this earth. i think we have to fight for, i don't think. i know and i feel i do believe and i will firmly fight for ivf access across this country. and the fact that the bill brought by senator britt was defeated by democrats just shows you that they're willing to sacrifice ivf on the altar of increasing the partisan polarization in our country. we've had enough of that. we need more folks who are just like you and me working moms who understand that we need results on this issue in so many others and we don't need more artisan bickering. >> shomari. >> i think what happened in the state of alabama with ivf was unfortunate. it was sad. cost a fair number of families an opportunity, at least at the

time, to be able to the family of the own, to have children of their own. but it resulted from this obsession with telling women what they can and cannot do with their bodies. and ivc as i said earlier, that is not the responsibility of government. that is a decision that should be left to women and families and their own circle of advisers and making a tough decision. soft analyze the reality. i believe it's an issue that people should do to make themselves. but to sit here and listen to people, including presidential nominee on the republican side come say that you can have an abortion after birth, it's called murder. it ain't true. it's a lie. it's already illegal. you cannot do that. and also sit here and further a

lie that when we wait until eight, nine months pregnant to have an abortion, it's not true. it's not how it happens. they are making these tough decisions much earlier in the process. at the end of the day i think we have an obligation to make sure we're standing up for women to make their own decisions. >> closing statements, and each candidate will have foreign minister close and will begin with you, shomari. >> well, thank you again to the montgomery chamber, the renaissance hotel hosting us and all of you here in attendance. we have an opportunity here to put a leader in washington that's going to come in washington, d.c., is going to put the state and district and the people here first. it's been pretty clear on this stage who views things through partisan first lens and who views things through a solutions oriented lens. i'm not going to washington to

learn how to be a democrat. i don't need that education. i'm a democrat because i believe in certain things. i believe in the power and necessity of supporting the least of these. i believe in government being there for people, when the government to be there for them. i believe that government should have a role in taking care of those people who are poor, those people who don't have access to a doctor intercommunity, those people who live in communities hospital shutting down, those people who live in communities who don't have broadband internet, people who live in communities would have to send their kids to school and buildings that were built with new deal money in the 1940s. i believe that government should be there for the people's republic of it has to be there for those communities. like shorter, alabama, that don't have the tax base to support the type of incentives that are necessary to build to recruit and the types of compass we want to provide those jobs of the future. i believe we have an obligation

to have representation in washington, d.c. that we do that. that will go to washington and fight for those infrastructure investment. i was done in greenville alabama and met with her mayor. they get to tap into new water supply source for the seat of greenville with the next few days. getting water access, that's the type what we had in washington, d.c. for far too many parts of this issue. we need a leader in washington was going to washington to make sure we're putting alabama first. i'm not going there to fight with republicans. i'm not going to come i don't care who's president because my job description does not change regardless of who is the president. regardless of who controls the senate, who controlled the house. because a health care challenges we face down here will still be here whether it's republican own senate for democratic controlled house. people that need investment in their kindred is to build the

roads, building bridges come to modernize the school system and make sure the hospitals can stay open, those challenges don't disappear if hakeem jeffries is speaker mike john cena speaker. so had to be willing to roll up our sleeves for some in washington, d.c. that understands that, that understands this country was not built by democrats or republicans, that understands our future will not be billed that we either. better future is going to be built by the people who want their sleeves, to work, set aside partisan ideologies and go to washington, d.c. with alabama top of mind every single day. that is what motivated me to work in government in the first place, and that is what will motivate me every single day and represent the people of the state and of this district. i love this place. i wouldn't be anywhere other than here, be from anywhere other than here because ando what we've come to as a state. i know what the history is. you know what that history is.

we have come from slavery to where we are now. and we didn't collectively. we get it together. we did it with whites in montgomery. we did it with prayer. we did with police, that the state can be better than it was at that is my to the cake with me. that is what drove me to federal government in the first place because i believe in the power of government doing good for people who need it most. that is the attitude i will take with me as your congressman to washington, d.c. thank you. >> caroleene. >> first of all i want to thank sharon rose, and a bucklew, the chamber and the staff at the renaissance. thank you to the chamber for all you do to bring opportunity to montgomery, to shed light on the issues impacting our community. thank you for your courage in fighting for the city. what you think wfsa for covering this event. going up and beatrice alabama i

got three channels and we start our day watching dubya sfa and for special that my film starts our day the same way. i want to thank you, marsha, for moderating for your years of public service. you are the epitome of a bipartisan states woman, of a devoted mother and of a servant of christ am grateful for leadership and example. i do want to thank all of you here today and all of you watching. thank you for taking the time to be informed about this election. to be informed about the opportunity that we have in alabama's second congressional district, just have the chance not just to impact the future of this district but the future of this country. for too long in this state we've had districts that were not competitive. everyone in this district in this election is going to have a voice. we've talked about issues that

ranged the gamma, that impact i've been in this district. and again for too long we haven't had discussions. what i want to do is fight for you in washington, d.c. i grew up with a value of stewardship ingrained in me. the idea that we have a responsibility to utilize our resources and opportunities that god has given us. in the best way possible, cultivate those and leave things better than we found them. and that's why i cut in this race, not because i've ever been in politics, but because i understand that it's on us, the future of this country is on us not just a resource and opportunities, not just our strength and security but the future, the next generation is on us.

it's important that we, and vital, that we instill in our children the values of hard work, humility. that we let them know that america, even though it is not perfect, even though we still have so much work to do, we still are the greatest force for good in this world, and that freedom is worth fighting for. we don't need more washington insiders, , folks who live in washington like my opponent is kept his house in washington, because they have politicized issues that should never than parsing in the first place. we should all acknowledge that in order to have a prosperous economy, we need as many people as possible participating in the workforce, making our country better. that we need secure borders and order to protect our sovereignty and the health of our country. and especially in light of the

attack yesterday, that we must resolutely stand up to evil and be strong to ensure peace. over the course of the past 11 months it has been my privilege, and i'm grateful to each and everyone of you, who have allowed me to share time with you. i am fighting for the folks are in montgomery, for those watching in mobile, but also for those of you in millbury and midway and everywhere in between. please vote for me on november 5, and let's together bring about a better future for alabama. >> with one of the tightest races for control of congress in modern political history stay ahead with c-span's cover of coverage of key state debates. this fall c-span bridge access to the nation's top house, senate and governor debates from across the country. debate some races that are shaping your state future and

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>> will have live coverage o the democratic presidential ticket on c-span2. vicedential nominee governorim walz is on the campaign trail inreen bay, wisconsin, with governors tony evers and gretchen whitmer. that's at 5:45 p.m. etern. presidential nominee vice president kamala harris speaks to supporters at a rally in erie, pennsylvania. tc at 7:30 p.m. all of this is live on c-spa. you can also watch live on our free mobile video app, c-span now, and c-span.org. >> democratic senator maria cantwell debated her republican allenger dr. raul garcia to represent washington staten the u.s. senate. the debate which was cohosted by ksps andhe spokesman review

newspaper inpokane, washington, has been rated solid democraty the nonpartisan cook political report. this is one hour. >> all right, thank you all for being here. i am orion donovan smith ashcroft said i am the spokesman news reported in washington, d.c. i'm happy to be here in spokane for today's debate in a race to represent washington state in the senate between senator maria cantwell and dr. raul garcia. senator cantwell what a coin toss backstage and chose to give the first opening statement which means dr. garcia will close last. dr. garcia will be standing at the podium to my right. as drops of my ask a question for each candidate will have 60 seconds to answer followed by 30 seconds for rebuttal or to elaborate on the that response. i'm also have follow-up questions in which case each can

have another 30 seconds to respond. because of a lot of credit, i would like to ask the audience to please avoid any disruptions and applied only twice tonight at the end and now as we welcome our candidates to the stage. [applause] >> all right. senator cantwell, you have been in the senate since 2001. to take it so you become the first woman to be chair of the senate committee on commerce, science, and transportation. dr. garcia, you have worked as an emergency physician for the past 25 years. i would hereby each of you thinks you're the best candidate to represent washington state in

the senate for the next six years. senator cantwell. >> thank you so much and thank you to gonzaga, to the spokesman review for the great work that you're doing with the black lens. as of late in the unique model that is being prepared for journalism. i have to say a special go zags welcome to the pac 12. i believe we should send people to the united states senate are going to work in a bipartisan fashion to get things done. that's what you guys sent me there to do i worked hard of what i thought were our northwest values, to bring the supply chain back, to make sure we were low in cost on prescription drugs and out-of-pocket expenses for seniors, and getting the ability to negotiate on drug prices so we could help lower the cost of all. i know think still cost too much and that's why we're fighting now on building more affordable housing. housing is 70% of inflation. while it's coming down we know here in spokane if we build more affordable housing like don's

agates even, more people will see lower costs for the future. thank you. -- gonzaga haven. >> dr. garcia. >> good afternoon. i'm doctor ruehl carsey and i'm running to be our next u.s. senator from this great state of washington. i want to take everybody that had their hands on putting this debate together, to thank senator cantwell preventer at all of you watching, carrying about the future of washington state. want to give a special thanks to my wife who i call my 75%, who is been in this crusade with me for four and half years and truly without whom this would never happen. [speaking spanish] i hope everyone watching this debate that he sees a new choice, someone that is not a career politician that is a husband, a father, and the

scientist that is going to look at every situation according to results and bring true solutions. but most important, represent the will of the people of washington. thank you. >> take you, doctor. senator, which alike respond or elaborate? courtship 30 seconds for its very important in this environment people are doing too much on tv back in washington, d.c., are spending all their hours on the late-night cable shows. i didn't do that. i got four major piece of legislation passed that i wrote most of their big parts of the chips and science act which help honeywell is going to use here in spokane to build more jobs and bring the supply chain. i'm going to keep fighting for those kind of opportunities. >> thank you. doctor, would you like to elaborate for 30-second? >> my story is very easy. as mr. smith goes to washington i don't like what i see a side my door so i'd like to change it. i don't like the crying. i do like the open drug use.

i don't like our kids are not safe. i don't like the fact our families can't afford our lives in washington state. and i'm here to represent the people of washington and bring about true solutions from a science perspective that looks at problems according to results. >> thank you, doctor. the pandemic upended the global economy and lead to higher prices around the world. inflation in the u.s. has fallen to 2.5% after peeking over 9% in 2022. the federal reserve cut interest rates for federal reserve cut interest rates for the first time in four years. what americans average wages still haven't caught up to inflation. as senator how would you address the changing economy and high costs of the think? we start with dr. garcia. >> thank you. the fact that we have people in washington state that are choosing between groceries and other activities for the

children is not a good thing. we can't afford to afford, to buy a house. we can't afford our gas. so the federal government needs to take accountability. we have spent a lot of money. inflation happens because of two things. we increase taxes or we print money. well, yes what? were doing both. we need to stop doing that. we need to audit the federal government and get rid of ineffective programs and give that money back to the community. because economics 101 tells us if we have more money in our pocket we are going to it in our community and growth is going to happen. that is the solution that i think scientifically would work for our state. >> thank you, doctor. senator cantwell same question. 62nd. >> we all know a global pandemic caused a major inflation by

cutting products and services that were no longer provided. and now that we have climbed out of the pandemic i want to make sure we don't ever see that again, that we are bringing the supply chain back to the united states of america and lowering costs. the recent economic report shows we are growing wages and even growing them higher, that i know here in spokane because of talk to get through all the time that we need more to do to lower the cost of groceries and that's why i oppose the kroger albertson's merger that would gouge people with higher prices if we don't have competition and wife i have fought hard to make sure we spread these same discounts on prescription drugs, now fight of the same $35 insulin for everybody not just for seniors. our ability to negotiate on drug prices is saving the taxpayer about $7 billion in addition to seniors. this kind of negotiating power

is what our fight for. >> thank you, senator. dr. garcia you have 30 seconds to respond. >> yes unfortunately our present government voted for inflation reduction act that even economists from harvard wrote to the ap and said would not lower inflation. washingtonians are unfortunately paying so many more taxes to the pot for the inflation reduction act and getting back little. this is what we have today. we need change. and the right change. >> thank you, doctor. senator cantwell spread the inflation reduction act was paid for and it actually did reduce costs. and the question is, if you buy at costco and you get a discount? facet we insured for taxpayers and for the seniors that were buying prescription drugs for. if we spread those same benefits to a larger medicare population

we will save more money. that is one of the key things i want to do is to make sure we are using this ability to drive down costs on so many people with out-of-pocket expenses are so high for prescription drug. >> thank you, thank yo. we have the question now from the editor of the black lens. april everhart. >> my mid april everhart and i am added of the black lens. today this is my question. according to u.s. department of education students of color more likely taken up federal student loans in order to pay for college and are more likely to report the student that has caused them a high amount of stress later in her life. how would you mitigate this disproportionate burden, and which is about debt relief by the targeted are widespread? thank you. >> thank you for the question and thank you to the black lens, and thank you for being there in the memory of sandy williams. yes, i support student loan debt

forgiveness, particularly for public sector jobs whether we are talking about in my office or whether we're talking about the people who go into public service, or even people like drd medicine in rural areas. yes, we should have debt forgiveness to make sure the expense of student loans is not prohibiting us. we could be doing more in this area at a think it's very important to try to achieve that kind of perspective. i went to school on a pell grant and at the time pell paid for much more of the college education that today's pell but definitely go from working class to middle-class. we need to create those same opportunities today for more young people. i believe one way to do that is to create more opportunities for running start programs for people and target them to schools that would help get more minorities into college. >> thank you, senator. dr. garcia, yet one minute. >> thank you.

i arrived in this country as an 11-year-old skinny kid didn't speak a word of english. and was lucky enough to live out that the american dream. and along the way there were people that helped me achieve that goal. so as your next united states senator, of course i'm going to do everything i can to bring the resources necessary for marginalized cultures to get to an even playing field. we have two responsibilities here. first of all, to educate our country about the fact that these marginalized cultures exist, that they don't have the same resources. and second of all to make sure the education resources are there all these individuals can get that education and get out of that marginalize system that

they've been a part of. >> thank you. senator cantwell would you like response? >> i just want at i'm a huge fan of our carl perkins system and did anything you can do to drive down the skills training to our high school level. friendship and the united states of america should be our goal and an information age with are so many technical jobs. literally, six-figure jobs with two-year degrees. but if we teach math and science in our high schools and help provide running start, some of these can help in the enormous amount of skills that we we n the trend of america. lots of job. >> thank you, senator. dr. garcia would you like to 30-second. >> well, seems that senator cantwell and i are on the same page on this. apprenticeships are the way of the future. you don't have to go to college to have a great job and to support your family and have a great life. and that education is lacking in

the junior high level we need to increase that education. and to answer the question completely, certainly i would support student loan relief specifically for public service after that education. >> all right, thank you, dr. garcia. from student that i want to talk about national debt now. the u.s. national debt has surpassed $35 trillion. in the currents as good of the federal government has spent about $1.9 $1.9 trillion, n it's collected in revenue. we haven't had a balanced budget since the turn of the 21st century. how concerned are each of you about the nation's debt, and what should congress do about it? we will start with the dr. garcia. >> very concerned about the nation's debt. look, i came from humble beginnings and we didn't have a lot of money. but we always learned that you spend as much as you have.

right now we are in a situation where americans are putting their groceries on credit cards. and us as a federal government should be accountable to make sure we're not wasting the taxpayers money. that's why i propose an audit of the federal government. and i'm not proposing a big bureaucratic group that comes in and audits the federal government. i am proposing a single account with a pencil behind his ear that gets down on a table and says you know what, this is an ineffective program and we need to eliminate it so we could bring that money back to the community. >> thank you. senator cantwell. >> it's, the debt and deficit are an issue. in the pandemic we had to do some things that took care of people slides and help sustain economies for the future. in fact, the united states has come out of the pandemic with

more resources and ability because we did that. but what we don't want to do now as former president trump is suggesting is tariff, tariff, tariff and put back the 2017 bill that would as economists are saying at summer between seven and eight, $14 trillion to our debt and deficit. i believe in pay go. i believe in making sure like inflation reduction act as we do policy and we pay for it as we go. the reason i'm so enthralled over our make opportunities on apprentice is because you can grow the u.s. economy and help pay down the debt if we trained and skilled americans that on americans and they will do the rest. >> thank you, senator. i would note the discretion spending congress approves each year accounts for about a quarter of the nation's budget better spent on programs like sosa to come medicare, a big portion of that. dr. garcia which is like 30

seconds response? >> yes. americans, we don't do well when they take our rights away. medicare and social security are things that at the end of our life, at the end of our effort we expect to get. so i will be a senator that support those programs and finds the funding for it. my answer to reducing the debt is stop spending money that we don't have for ineffective programs. >> thank you. senator cantwell would you like to respond? >> i'm going to fight to protect salsas good and medicare, and project 2025 taking aim at some of this is disturbing to me. but i do think that there are things that are state is done in healthcare that should lead the way to help build a value-based healthcare delivery system and help us look at costs in the future. if people would do more of that

and reward good delivery of healthcare i think there are things we could do in our system today. >> thank you. i like to turn now to abortion. one of the biggest topics in this year's president election certainly. for nearly half a century the supreme court guaranteed a nationwide right to abortion with states are not restrict the procedure later in pregnancy except when a pregnant woman's life or health was in danger. since the court overturned those protections in 2022 some states like idaho have restricted abortion. what should congress do in response to this new reality after the dogs dobbs decis? senator cantwell. >> i fully support restoring our rights. this is something that should be between a doctor and the patient, not people in washington, d.c. this is 50 plus years of a right that was upheld by our courts that were stripped away with the decision of the supreme court. and it is affecting the state of

washington. i produced a national report that shows how people here coming to our state and people from idaho are literally creating a demand on our system that's hard to serve. i want women to have the rights back and and i will fight te roe v. wade restored as the law of the land when i am return to the united states senate with your help. >> thank you, senator. dr. garcia, you've one minute. >> washington state is a pro-choice state dictated by the first the washington state. and i as your united states senator i'm going to represent the defendant that every day. i agree that the reversal of this law has caused burden in washington state from having patience from other states come to have abortions here. going back to america it's not like taking a rights away. in my experience i have been there with the mother whose

daughter was raped by her uncle. i have been there with the husband whose wife is dying of an ectopic pregnancy or demise or other ob/gyn emergencies and it had to send them to the operating room to terminate the pregnancy or the woman would die. this is who i am. this is my experience, this is how i'm going to represent you as your united states senator. >> thank you. senator cantwell, would you like response? >> avs said people are losing their life over this as a saw in georgia. we need people who are going to stand up and fight for this right to be restored. the challenges we face is that the republican party except for key people in the united states senate have basically decided they want this to be up to individual states. i am saying this is a right that women should have added national level. that i'm going to spend my time advocating for it to pass into federal law. >> thank you, senator.

would you like response per? yes. the dobbs decision to create a lot of anxiety and discomfort throughout the country. i want the women of washington to understand my stance. i'm not asking you to trust every republican just as a as a wooden ask you to trust every democrat. i'm asking you to trust me. i am going to defend the state as a pro-choice state everyday as a u.s. senator representing washington state. >> thank you, doctor. i'd like to ask one follow up on this topic. there's of course been proposed legislation that would restore roe v. wade style protections at the federal level. you both have spoken to that. senator cantwell, would you vote for a bill that restores those protections that allows for state restrictions, , states to enact their own restrictions after people live in the? >> we have laws on the books to do that now, and the confusion

and management in washington about this, in idaho, is a perfect example of why i wouldn't support that. please put roe v. wade back into federal statute. this issue now is how the woman week being transported from idaho to washington. she may want to keep the pregnancy. she's walking into a facility and asking for help, and they're saying, because they're worried about their cases against them, are saying please get on on e and go to seattle. and so even though people would say they have exemptions or they have specifications, the confusion that this year today is not tolerable. evil should not be losing their lives over it a people shouldn't be losing pregnancies that they want to keep. >> thank thank you, senator. i want to note the clock, give you 60 seconds and we'll do the same for dr. garcia. i will not ask of another follow up on this topic you but dr. garcia usage you saidd

not vote for federal legislation that further restricts abortion nationwide. would you vote for the kind of legislation senator cantwell is talked about that would restore those protections? >> as a physician and representing the state of washington of a cbs2 at your question. and let me explain that. i think that there should be a safety net in our country to make sure that women have access if they choose that, up to fetal viability. this is the law in washington state. so being the senator from washington state and being a physician with a lived experience in situations that need that termination, yes, i would support it. and i would add this. i would sit with my republican colleagues and explain this, and i would ask you who do you think those republican colleagues are going to listen to more, the

doctor with lived experience or a democrat? >> well, -- >> thank you, dr. garcia. we need to move on. we have a lot to get you here. we are going to turn back to the screen again. with a question from a contact a student. >> my name is anthony tomorrow, and i'm a student at gonzaga university. and here's my question. what role do believe the federal government should play in combating climate change, and what is your plan in reducing carbon emissions and promote clean energy here in washington state? thank you. >> we will start with dr. garcia, you have 62nd. >> we are lucky to live in one of the cleanest faces on earth. and we should all bind together to make sure our children have the same clean place, not only here but anywhere in the world. so i am a big proponent of

keeping our environment clean. i am a proponent of clean energy. i have of the fact we have hydroelectric energy and our state at chernobyl that 70% of our energy. i am a proponent of nuclear energy in our state, the ones we have, and more that we could go after. but i want to also bring up that if we are the cleanest place on earth, i am in support of bringing our manufacturing and our industries back to america where we care about the environment, and stop outsourcing our jobs to places that really don't care as much. >> thank you. thank you, dr. garcia. senator cantwell, you have one minute. >> i i was at his responsibly because physicians, they don't support establishing roe v. wade. i really like my colleagues

susan collins and lisa murkowski but they haven't convinced me of the people in their caucus either. so for the fighting. can you believe we are fighting over idf? but that's forwarding because we believe in letting families have ivf treatment. i believe climate change is real. i believe that as passing the climate reduction act set this up into state of washington to not only innovate here and diversify our energy sources but we are leaving the world and some of the most innovative energy, whether it's a hydrogen hub for smart grid or battery technology in moses lake, or some of the innovation that is being done at the p&a lap we are on the next generation of energy front that is great help us meet these climate call. >> thank you, senator. dr. garcia would you like response? >> yes. first of all of what you want to know that have participated in ivf so of course i some support

it. i'm also in favor of hydrogen, and we're lucky as senator cantwell stated to have at&l here in our state. what are the only 13 labs in the country. we want to be in the forefront, the leaders in climate change in the country and as you're nice to center i will be your champion of it. >> thank you. senator cantwell. >> with these devastating to do everything i can to prove to people that this is impacting our taxpayers. so in a bipartisan effort susan collins and i asked the government accounting office to give us estimates just two weeks ago came up and said it's costing us billions of dollars. our state, setting up people on innovation to solve the thorniest problems, like how to get battered technology to last longer, how to transfer a charge faster, how to fuel airplanes which i authored the language of

all things that are going to help us diversify. >> thank you, senator. now as the country transitions to more renewable energy sources the columbia basin has become an increasingly important source of hydropower. dash of northwest tribes ate existing infrastructure like the lower snake river dams and new developments like the goldendale energy storage project damage the natural world in other ways and violate the treaty they signed with the federal government. how should congress balance the countries energy needs with the rights of tribal nations? senator cantwell. >> it's so important that we do everything we can because we now need about 30% more power than we have to do. that's how much our state is going to grow. i want to do everything we can to keep the historic low energy electricity costs that we've had as a state. it has build our economy over and over and over again. but we have to live up to our

treaty obligations for abundant salmon and that is why i fought hard against bristol bay, goldmine alaska have destroyed salmon sockeye. probably some of the largest runs in the world and yet people were going to build a goldmine and destroy the period . and what i fought here for record amount of salmon funding to remove barriers and to build our hatchery fish so we can take some of the pressure off of the system. >> thank you, senator dr. garcia one minute. >> well, i pay a lot of electricity in my house with five children. so i understand that. there's never enough and this is why i am very much in favor of new ideas. and expanding our nuclear program even here in washington. ..

there culture that keeps the culture alive sorry we are out of time. i was very involved in something that was bipartisan and brought together the how did we get the water farmers, environmentalists, all got together and agreed to build

more capacity for our region that was an exemplary way to make progress in his issues. >> i agree as long as we depend on energy for higher culture estate, we need to find a balance and make sure which they work really hard to preserve seven state. >> would like to turn. >> one year since hamas and other militant groups killed offenders some people and fairly 100 remain in gaza thinking 40000 people and also while are

provided 18 million and military age. all of the united states is condolences for everyone. it's always been a strong ally of the united states from terrorist activities and united states so we should support our allies.

the i do agree or support of our allies are purpose but not only cost just the citizens. we need to do everything we can to bring hostages back home. united states supports israel because it's a democracy in the middle east and we should stop read that is five is outlined

achieve his father and us we need to do a very good states. >> would you like to respond or elaborate? >> stark difference between the seller and i she voted to release assets to iranians which in turn iran used october 7 is your u.s. senator iran is an organization will that doesn't work that of world peace of the u.s. or leader of will. >> that is inaccurate, give 100

billing to iran. i did some of the agreement i would have said the united states and other partners of the security council to go to iran and say the were not developing nuclear weapons and yes, i left of to do she will help us figure that out so what we did do is say we will have patience on iran, oil and show why that is helpful. >> talking about ukraine and russia it's been a decade now with crimea two years the full-scale invasion of ukraine. congress prorated or 75 billing response including 100 billion government what should our role and would be support the deal to

and work to give the territory? >> basically in an effort to attack ukraine, we need to stand up to that aggression. we are not only protecting ukraine the euro, we are protecting our nato allies it is important continue to help ukraine and for standing up to ukraine. we have 2000 refugees that live right here and we are sending with them because democracy and aggressors stop democracy. >> i came from cuba which was a tyrannical government.

that is the only way to live that experience settled with the ukrainian people see an aggressor did a tyrannical government tried to take them over in the united states was correct supporting ukrainian people. he says she doesn't believe in laundering the money you're sending to ukraine, my colleagues are asking for our accountability and transparency. want to make sure the money we are using with taxpayers money to help with to succeed we have transparency and accountability on. >> i know what rand paul is up to. he wants to be an isolationist.

i believe we should join more sanctions trends nancy india and china is the way to go as the government all of our citizens seeing all this money go out or we have so many problems in our backyard we need accountability and transparency about the other side favoring auditing this money because shorts going to the proper places in ukraine. >> you mentioned federal and we will get to that in a moment. congress failed to pass major immigration reforms and as a result of law has not kept up

with changing reality on the ground and estimated 11 million people live in the country in the u.s. economy and agriculture. record number people have crossed the border beginning take legal process the particulars. if elected what would you do for the rest immigration? >> any other country should have the right to bed comes in and out of the country and when we lose that right, we lose that sovereignty. not only that he who comes in and out but allowing drugs and crime to come in as. we know who's coming in for the cartels do know exactly who's

coming in and a lot of them hold money back. this country was created by immigrants to find the best place in the world other children created the best country in the world of always support immigration but we need better leadership and discipline at our border so we remain a sovereign nation. >> i have voted for probably four different bipartisan bills. literally the partners are left. john mccain and ted kennedy, every time of the or 80 votes

out of the u.s. senate would be by conservatives who just didn't want to do anything to allow for a legal process to be established for the workforce we depend on in washington so do not support immigration policy that will allow us to bring people from mexico is and i will do what we can to fight for appropriations the border. >> thirty seconds to respond. >> i want to talk about certain topics may not come back to. i'm in favor of the dreamers not having 18 years of age. to the other people who have been here for years and have been profited people people,

i'll give of presidents but if you come to commit crime, you are out. >> a lot a follow-up question and thoughts on former president trump running the false rumors about haitian immigrants and an ohio town. a book to know about the rhetoric of immigrants. >> i'm going to be a champion of immigrants, i am one. i came to this country searching for the american dream and everyone in this audience, it may not have but you but it may have been your ancestors that have the same fire is my mother

so i can succeed. always going to be a champion of immigration in this country. we have a large bureaucracy of legal immigration suppressing we have to do is come into this country legally. washington state depends on our economy. >> you have one minute on the rhetoric. >> about every minute of national news is donald trump saying immigrants this problem, this problem, this problem demonizing the back burner is.

they don't necessarily get it. and by colic. competitive. and they killed about 75000 americans.

washington. what you do differently? >> a national commercial like the one the press. more money on the border for detection. >> so we can stop it low. i do support treatment and 50%

reduction is. >> and four seconds. this is a crisis. senator cantwell and i, the felony charges for the election and involuntary rehabilitation. as a doctor i can tell you it will tell them to lie, cheat and

steal. despite has to be voluntary. >> i'll tell you how i do it of the university of washington and the program is the best way democrats, for that. >> listening to cantwell, i put

down in the attics and be organizers. and an iron fist, to the. >> we are going to turn back to the videos. it if elected, what steps would you take? >> doctor curcio. >> the homeless problem custody

triple base. i can tell you that you have to go to the root of the cause. the first step is drug rehabilitation. the second is the adult the third step housing. housing first, this is why the program has been so effective state is the same with house productions, we are selling as little here are the deals, here's the pipe here's the foil. here is globe. housing so you can do your drugs. while it's a step in the right direction, it is not decimation. we need a true solution. take these individuals out of the environment and the homeless crisis, we need to do it in that order. >> to think everybody who's on

this is on drugs, i know a woman from my town for literally loss her apartment because i have mold, she had to leave and didn't have a place to go and literally lived in parts of his about building supply. a study shows for every 2300 units, who drive down the cost about 2000 dollars annual rent cost. we need to build more supply. that's why places are done, i worked in a bipartisan basis in the u.s. senate the bill that will help us build affordable units. >> you have 30 seconds. >> again, we need to go to the root cause. those mothers who lose their house are out there with the

child, offers those are the first diary but the people in the streets of do not want to get out of the street be taken out of the environment and given resources to be brought back to the family. we are going to perpetuate behavior we live in today. >> if anybody can look at the perfect example, it reunited families became homeless and. reporter: part in the whole mission to give access to childcare and back to their education system so they can be trained and skilled productive members of the should be followed. >> i like to talk about healthcare.

americans spend more on health. person than any other country in the world. the worst of times among those countries including life expectancy mortality. question congress could do to improve? >> i mentioned value -based purchasing and what we were able to do with the inflation reduction act. billions for american consumers just saying the federal government like prospero negotiate so why don't we have the same ability to negotiate just for the care? millions and the national system and why i fight and advocate for

it. >> i am deeply into this situation where you live in a state where i couldn't, who length 50 is so healthcare is a big issue but we're not talking about «-left-guillemet in the room. the person from washington state should have the right to get a quote from insurance from alabama. i'm not sure insurance company should be in wall street. i have patients that needed

approval on an mri and don't get it. >> this is something we agree on their taking over restrictions drug boxes, the third of force work so much are. >> also need the reimbursement to be higher. in 2811 and told her reimbursement in the country we need to bring up.

her answer to me was we are going to bring everybody's reimbursement down to our level so we are on an even playing field. this makes us lose resources washington. americans are not protected by national law governing how we can collect and use is no data. this makes data privacy for years that the only major developed country in the world without a nationwide standard. what should congress do to regulate?

day when you share our information. i do think congress has a place in the coming spend regulate the privacy for the benefit of our citizens. that is our job.

>> value -based purchasing is how you get money for washington. i'm fighting very hard to pass a federal privacy act of they are misusing information to have the ability to take action against them. it's time to pass a law. so far we are not keeping up.

americans deserve the spike. >> i apologize because we are short on time. >> thank you in the selection could be more important about the future of our country. what we have been able to do for seniors and spread about a possible larger population. are we going to build more affordable housing and leave with low income housing clinic?

you've made the right investment and i'm asking for your support. >> thank you for giving me this great opportunity. my intent was to instill the confidence and hope together we can have a better washington. change his heart but senator cantwell will not have star four times to give her another chance of making it right. i'm asking you for one. wanted to bring true solutions to our problems. we could keep voting the same way and keep having the same problems outside our windows and doors are take a leap of faith in this skinny cuban kid that fought hard to achieve the american dream and i promise you is your next united states senator every step in every

action, every breath i take everyday will be to represent the will of the people of washington to one of the greatest country in the world and pay her back for everything it does for us. [laughter] >> control of congress in political history. senate and governor debates from across the country. ♪♪

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political journalist and here's the list fantastic conversation today. he we are going to introduce the panel in a moment.

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introduce these journalists, and the ticket policy for bloomberg opinion former senior political reporter through cnn and the washington post. she's correct politics and campaigns are more than two decades. barack obama to bernie sanders to ben carson and donald trump in organizations including newsday, the cnn geopolitics a level in a journal reporter covering national politics with a focus on 24 presidential campaign to washington. she's covered the white house

and national security for the journal for cnn and associated press with a focus on foreign policy breaking a number of major stories involving the white house and including the administration's controversial travel man the former president relents. a former correspondent reported more than 805 continents of the past two decades. as a graduate of the university of law school. a chief media analyst most of vanity fair's weekly podcast and author of three books most recently.

in crow nights of excellence and a geopolitics fellow. great and amazing panel with us today. >> thank you for the warm introduction. [applause] one of our panelists had to pull out. just heard how they were third.

[inaudible] [inaudible] >> all right. i look back to cover the race. my first take away was, when did

politics get to be so mean? one of the other candidates among other insults and being involved in the assassination of jfk. the first woman for a major ticket. i was coming at a war zone to be

clear. in seems like a natural transition. >> are we over it? the national stage to submit is that there are he says a woman of color no less. there is heightened awareness.

and they have been actively trying to work get them discipline. >> we have this event where they have this question when harris black and among other things. prevent that. and get them over the edge this time. so that is where we are.

in his side we know what is covered and what not to be covered? >> going to north carolina to see what was going on. in. >> you approach to campaign gender attacks, it is not fear that they will be right.

trump, you are probably the beta right. why? because he had two years to build a coalition the coalition that i think in many ways together around identity politics and around anti- immigrant sentiment antiblack sentiment in the. the harris campaign do you hope there is a realignment of black voters. they are much more tired and more likely to be offended by the things trump did or didn't do by january 6.

it's not going to be obama coalition. can you together a racially diverse coalition in 100 days up against a guy who very well knows what he's doing with the rhetoric? whether it's what he said in the debate, about people eating people's pets or aid to hurricane victims and some instances black voters, two that the federal government did not care about and they care more about a migrant and that is something that motivates voters.

such an idea that this will be an election on the economy. it is a lot around these cultural issues, transitions and immigration crime in so they are motivating issues and more on the right than the left. i get sick of people on tv seeing the cliché from the clinton campaign. on the economy, it will be another issue.

>> we can look at the advertising spend. one of the campaigns prioritizing x. >> add spending is a good way to determine what the priorities of the campaign are. donald trump campaigned and spending double in pennsylvania what it is in.

and in pennsylvania where they attempted assassination happened, he says 100,000 people for in attendance, he's a big fan, i'm not sure it was quite that high. not just going to go up and do a rally for he knew it would be media coverage. he just made it in to the show because he wants to lure people and uses his star power so you see that. arizona is another place where

they poor resources and because of early voting you see them shifting to arizona where trump is going to hold a rally impact you learn a lot when you go in person? >> it's worth the trouble to talk to the voters at the rally. believe it or not, they haven't changed all that much. >> you are there not for trump but to learn about the trump voters. >> absolutely. there is a lot you can tell. they're not the ones

necessarily. i might they they are and talk to people that are not at the rally. our team is a bit smaller so we really tried to the narrative around the rally. the tax-free situation on someone a double taxation no foxes on. he's been throwing them out.

in the same time in arizona i would go report on early voting and report on the fact that continues to deny the fact that the state of arizona despite the audit and what has proven the contrary. >> build politician and went back to mar-a-lago. no one really perceived that they would be but i think by and large three years ago tucker carlson, we are going to make him a nonperson. move on from the trump years of how do we get back to this?

and back in a situation where you just said you make i think trump had his people and in so many ways the palestinian undergrads one of the finest institutions but he had people so he never left him. in so many ways, i don't necessarily mean this in a disparaging way but you have to work use the word cold in so many ways to explain the loyalty and i call them followers, i don't even call them supporters because that is the election they have with donald trump in

the correspondence can. when you understand that relationship and what trump does trickles down immediately to his base of supporters, who are facing demographic shifts and facing economic challenges, there's a lot of people in american culture, drops being shipped overseas and a.i. >> a woman of color. >> exactly. a hermela around identity

politics around essentially making white voters feel like reminding them of their whiteness by mentioning the other is a threat over and over again. >> this sort of scapegoat. it had to spend the republicans we are going to play the political level also i want i will usually all and in some ways we talk about in these are stereotypes but they work and they are motivating ideas

instead of american voters. times they are brown voters who have their own idea what it means to be part and what it means to be american. the idea of being american need to look down so if you are donald trump you have a discourse and you have social media and a sense of disconnect among so many voters so donald trump becomes their figure. the. >> other republicans are like j.d. vance who want to tell the whole thing down and anti- institution.

next they are is campaign rally so the difference between trump rally and dance rally and smaller rallies but also they want him to take russians from the media. he starts with the local media and moves on to national media. they see this access at bedtime with a lack of access to governor walz and they go beyond to have him access to the media. it is where exit questions and

local journalists for the most part and questions at the local level had a little bit about migration issues and many of them travel with him and used to be my colleague he said the new york times reporter and baked into the whole thing. all things about the federal reserve, it's the only question you can get. cutting interest rate and the

crowd lost their mind. j.d. vance actually giggled because he was expecting that reaction. >> it was good news? >> the question that was good news for the other team and the they told me aside and they were like that's not true. >> if i had a penny for every time and at one time or another are all that way.

>> i actually started laughing. it is something worth taking note of. animosity toward the other side, it feels wrong five president biden and harris so it's interesting. >> you covered the trump campaign and where were you? >> i was house hunting. ...

especially all of us one point or another. we are all tv people, basically. at that people literally picking you apart physically among other things. everything you say it was a show more than anything else. just this animosity towards the other side. they feel so wrong by president biden and vice president harris is something to take note of. so it's interesting. >> let's look at harris. where were you when biden dropped out? sunday afternoon. >> nobody had a heads up.

>> i was househunting. yeah. i was househunting. we were going to take our daughter to a playground. i got a call from our editor. i do leave my wife with my child which happens a lot. >> we ran out of the water park. >> i love my daughter to come here and she was crying. you know. this is what it means to be a working mom particularly around this campaign. harris has done something amazing in a very short period of time. stitching back together the biden coalition which was despond it which wanted volume large a different candidate.

in no way there was for obama and even hilary clinton had a stronger base of support than biden did. even as he was running, he essentially promise he would be a one term president. a bridge to the next generation. he said this at a rally the next day. he had all of these people behind him enclosing kamala harris. raising all of this money and to tighten this thing. they never even elected a black america governor. they have only elected to black women in the senate. very few people out that black women bosses. i have had a few at the washington post. i have one now at bloomberg but that is a rarity. it is a huge leap that america

is going to elect, not just a woman president, but in african-american woman president it is a big thing. we will see if it happens. again, she calls herself the other dog. i think part of the reason she calls herself the other dog is because she is trying to quote hilary clinton. >> as much as we do cover the policies and the positions in the speeches, i think it's important to cover the part you are describing. the psychology, the historical residents of what it means for her to be running. the notion that many people have resistance he had an austin that other people seeing it happen. i don't have the right words. there is so much caught up in that that is beyond policy

positions. >> so many people in the media have been like we are kamala harris detailed the plans. never really worrying about the fact that donald trump does not have any detailed plans at all. but, yeah. >> much more about the symbolism >> it is all about feeling and emotion. >> who is america, what is america, who is america four. >> it is an important plan. we talk about this. a lot of us live here on the east coast and we are a little bit shielded from the realities elsewhere in the country. this is something that i am grateful for to be able to travel and see other perspectives. a lot of times when i talk to even democrats in states across the country, we talk about heat as a future. in 2024 america is not ready for

a yay male president. it is shocking to me as someone that lives here in washington, d.c., but those are the things that you hear. race tends to come into the equation a lot when it comes to kamala harris. it is something that you have to kind of open your eyes to even if you yourself don't see it that way or it is something that these are discussions that are really happening across the country. let's just talk briefly. talking about the waterpark. for me, last weekend i was at a corn maze with the kids. i was texting with the trump campaign advisor at the same time. i felt like i was cheating on one side or the other. that is the point. you are in touch with both sometimes. what are your practical tips about what it's like to kind of know what will happen next or be ahead of these stories.

any thoughts for an aspiring journalist in the room. >> i think sort of be open to being surprised. i think if you watch cable news, we kind of get up there, we act like we know it all and this and that. voters want to know. she has to separate yourself from biden. i'm not sure that that is the case. this was, you know, probably in 2017 or something. i was in and we were. this is sort of a cliché. i was asking, who do you think is the person that should go up against donald trump. she said joe biden. this is a black woman. she was on the joe biden train way before, you know way before he was deciding to run.

having a sense of things seen from a very different way than we do. republican strategists. having a sense of what the country needs and what the country is ready for and what the country would deal. >> i have a corporate card. getting them talking. take advantage of that. if you join a news organization that gives you a corporate card take them out and get them talking. >> i will play over and come into the crowd unless we have a mic for questions. you do not even need me to run up and down the halls. let's see who wants to go first. right here at the second row. >> thank you all so much for

joining us. granted i cannot remember that many election cycles. one thing that i feel ask become more common over the past year or so is the minute there is a fact check this is a journalist doing their job. this is something against me. how does it impact your supporting? do you think that there is something that they shouldn't con do for the attitude. >> particularly fact checking. this came up in the debate. they did not fact checked. that would not have helped joe biden at all, but anyway. the kamala harris donald trump debate. this sort of trump half of things basically came up with all of these conspiracy theories they were threatening the

license bias in the black woman was part of the same sorority so there must be something. this final debate, a jd vance one, one attempt to fact check the you know, listen, i think at cnn, who was fantastic, i do not know that the media is up for this time. even though we been added since 2015 covering donald trump and donald trump's lies. i think cnn grappled for this with a time. there was a time they decided to fact check. there'd be something on the screen. a particular lie that donald trump was telling about barack obama being the founder of isis or something. there was a check, a fact check that was running in that way.

getting more airtime than anyone during that cycle. i am not sure that it helps. i am not sure that fact checking does not ultimately advance the live. today on cnn for instance, there was a trump person talking about the fema response to hurricane. of course, they are liars that fema has been bled dry by these migrants and no money will go to the actual victims of the hurricane. a fantastic job of fact checking when you sort of elevate someone who will live, is it a kind of the equivalency in the mind of some viewers. i am not sure of the kind of fact checking that has been going on whether it's in the pages of the washington post or on air. whether it has really done anything or solved the problem

of the lies that trump tells. >> i do not think that cnn viewers are clear on what the facts are, necessarily. it feels to me that the bigger challenge of consumers to cbsn their feeds. i worry that those are the folks that actually are unclear on what is real and what is fake. i do not think a new york times fact check article will get through to them. i agree with you 100% about the limits of fact checking. showing up with a knife to a gunfight very clearly. we can tell there are millions of people that prefer their feelings over facts. people believe what they see in their eyes. they can gain traction.

i still hold on to hope. most americans do want to know what's true in the world. most do want to know what is real and they don't want to be fools all the time. >> i think that access to a greater number of information, let's call it information sources not news sources. excuse what is and what is not truthful. because i covered the trump campaign i go back to them. it is often taken as gospel. i call it the word of trump. the other day was a perfect example. something very minor where he said biden never called camp the

governor of georgia after the hurricane. this is something that his base has started but it was not true. he did call. there was an effort to get a hold of each other but they talked. same with florida now. talking about this hurricane stuff. immediately when he says it is this taken as truth. incumbent upon us to then call it out. do people believe us? often times it is a challenge to get people to believe us. there is really no other answer at this point. >> it does raise the reality of the limits of the media's power. i wish it were different. but we should be realistic about the limits of journalism's power to debunk narratives that are out there and especially in that world. let's see other questions that we have. take the pressure off me.

>> thank you so much for having me. how social media, especially twitter has turned journalists into brands of their own. allowing audiences to interact with them. now in the era of stella stack they are producing their own content and do not necessarily have to stand, they don't have organizations to stand in front of or behind. they don't have that corporate card. someone paying for fights to go to rallies. the creations of journalism especially during a campaign where there is a lot of travel involved. >> i do think that obviously again it is going back to the level of professionalism. you have mentioned sub stack. great platform for a lot of people.

not just journalists, but others that are good writers or have something to say want to get the word out there and gives them access to greater audiences. i don't pretend to really understand how these platforms work. but i do have a lot of established journalists turning to diversify the type of audience that they reach. for people for young journalists , if you put in a level of professionalism. i did not have the corporate cards. i did not have the access to security and all of that stuff. you are taking a risk in those situations. a risk of what you can do. competing against journalists that do work for news organizations.

you can still write well and you can still build source spaces just by working the phones. you are in d.c. working on the members of congress love to talk. go knock on the door of members of congress and get to know some of them. you would have access. i teach a graduate journalism class here at georgetown and ivan assignment where i tell them to just talk to members of congress. so you do have access. there is low-budget ways to still do good journalism and to do it for those platforms. build a couple of clips for yourself you can shop around to bigger news organizations if that's what you want to do we are all anticipating if there will be buyouts and layoffs in

various newsrooms. it is just a field that is shrinking. with ai, i am sure that that will only accelerate. to the extent sort of outside outlets crop up in different kinds of journalists who is not as east coast elite, who are from the upper echelons of american society to the extent that there are other outlets and journalists who can provide an alternative voice. they are overwhelmingly white. in some ways they are overwhelmingly male in the upper ranks of newsrooms. and then they are filled with people that went to fancy schools like georgetown and duke it is just a fact. journalism cannot accurately

cover america. in some ways, that is why 2016, you know, we got it wrong. we got 2022 wrong as well. we will see how we do this go round. it is an industry that is not nearly as diverse enough. ideologically religion. ideally something that actually changes. you talk to people in the newsroom and there like we have been working on it. we have more work to do. they had more work to do for decades and needs newsrooms are still not very diverse. not a real reflection of american society. >> next question. let's see where the mike heads. over here. >> hi. thank you so much for being here today. i am a soft or minoring in

journalism. on the topic of media, i was curious what your opinion is on candidates kind of coming out and campaigning on modern social media platforms like kamala harris now has a presence on to talk and she was recently on the caller daddy podcast. trying to tap into a new audience of potential young voters. i was curious if you thought this could be more harmful to her legitimacy considering the reputation of these platforms and the controversy behind them. you know, what kind of audience is watching these. >> trump is doing it, too, by the way. >> flagrant. comedy show. trump did one hour and 20 minutes on this podcast. he was hilarious. i thought caller daddy was one of her best interview she has ever had. i think all of these old fogies who pooh-pooh these interviews are just out of touch.

these influencers and pod casters, they take it really seriously when they are interviewing a candidate. the reality is that will never change. it will only become more like this because as media fragments, we will see more and more these nontraditional interviews. journalists can whine about it, it will never change. >> listen. part of it is personal. kamala harris is only giving interviews to these folks and, you know, these are mostly friendly outlets. what the new york times is actually saying is kamala harris has not given us an interview and we really want an interview from kamala harris. we don't care about her going on a podcast or talking to even 60 minutes which is a very serious outlet. it is very personal to these. listen -- >> hold on, wall street journal, is that true? [laughter] >> i agreed. it is definitely part of the

dynamic. they will always say we wish we had more access. we wish we could get more interviews. i don't think we live in a world anymore that it hurts i think it helps her. >> next question. let's see where the microphone had steel. >> i think trump should go on caller daddy, to. >> my name is matt and i'm a sophomore in the college. i have not declared a major gap but i'm kind of leaning towards journalism. i want to lean back to something that was said earlier about how do we get people to believe what their politicians are saying may not always be true or, you know, how do we get people to trust journalists again. what do we say to people that go , yeah, well, donald trump may say a lot of lies but i think he is better on the economy so i don't really care or kamala harris or tim walz brought up in the vp debate about how we got some dates wrong about how he

was in china. he is running on the better ticket so i don't really care. how do we get to people and say the truth does matter and you should care because, you know, a lot of the times a lot of the people are saying it does not matter to them as much. >> that is a great question. that is a great question. you know, what i find mostly is that their choices are limited. that is a big driving force for white people are at this point saying, well, i guess that this is what we've got. it is as simple as that. there are some people that are willing to dismiss just because they think -- i hear that a lot while i'm on the campaign trail that trump was better on the border, he was better on the economy, we were living better under his presidency. yeah, he says things that i do not really agree with or i do not like, but, ultimately, my life was better.

you do hear from the other side as well, i do not want another term presidency, so i will take whatever they offer us. >> is it also true that you can decide to know different versions of donald trump, meaning, there is a version of donald trump as an autocrat who will imprison his political opponents next year, we will try to shut down american news organizations if he is reelected we will live in a country that is far less democratic next year that is a version of donald trump. there is also another version that is a blowhard that like to talk too much that has a great new york accent just wants everyone to like him empty as friend. you can opt into different versions of donald trump. i think a lot of trump voters opt into the blowhard guy. >> i worry about that because i'm very concerned about the autocrat. >> i think people, a significant number of americans love every

single thing that donald trump stands for. >> including the fascism. >> including the fascism, including the shutting down democratic institutions, jailing enemies. we should understand that. we do not take these voters seriously enough. they like what donald trump stands for. i do think that mg -- ma ga is one of the most powerful political movements we have seen a donald trump talks about that. the question is the anti- movement which began the day the election was called for donald trump, is that stronger? is this sort of hatred of donald trump stronger than what i think is a real infinity for donald trump the man, the methods he employees and what he wants to do to the country. there are significant numbers of

americans who do not mind and autocracy as long as it is there guy who is implementing it. >> i appreciated that reality check. five more minutes for questions. >> i would like to get your take on a strategy question for the kamala harris campaign. i've been a political analyst on the cable network particularly msnbc and i've been elected to office six times. what i'm concerned about is it will just go down the tubes. i have seen up close as hilary did in 2016 a lot of voters that will not support a female candidate. i am sure you have seen in the last two or three weeks trump ads are hitting her hard. her response has been, oh, well, that is just being divisive. she is not being aggressive enough. james carver was saying today or yesterday on tv as well, she needs to be more aggressive. from a media standpoint, how

would you react if she becomes much more aggressive, much more not just sitting there and taking it because i fear that, in fact, today on tv a segment that said here we are again, 2016 again. >> inside politics. every democrat i talked to is really, really nervous. about where this, the harris campaign is. is it too much on a cruise control? they are not sure if it is just psd from 2016 with hilary clinton or something. they are really seen from the harris campaign. but, no, i think sort of the gender in the race issue which are inextricably intertwined here, it is a real thing. if you are kamala harris i think

she is partly trying to lean into being tough. she was basically a call. she was a prosecutor. she has a gun, apparently it is a glock. that sounds like a pretty serious type of gun. and, so, yeah. listen. over these next 26 days, i think that you will see some change. i do think that there is a great deal of worry about whether or not they are sort of sleepwalking to the same result. because of the same reasons. around the gender and race paying. is she hanging out too much with liz cheney. thinking that there will be this sort of realignment among republicans. i think she is doing it for a slightly different reason which is the argument as she is a scary progressive black woman that is the fifth member of the squad. hanging out with liz cheney counteracts that.

how scary can i be if i'm here with this white suburban lady. that is her strategy around that to the extent that she may lose, i think you can probably trace some of this back to donald trump, haitians, immigrants eating your pets and then you fast-forward to jd vance talking about immigrants taking your house is and then you fast-forward a little bit more to this recent lie around immigrants taking fema funds. and, so, i think that that is the territory that has worked for donald trump and can really begin for him particularly against a woman of color. >> to some extent i think it will come down to this ground game. voter contacts making sure that you are not taking the base voters for granted.

that is the real fear. latino voters, information voters which are different from those types of voters. so that is what folks are talking about to me. they are worried that again she is focusing too much on the liz cheney's of the world and not enough on the traditional base of the democratic party. >> do not underestimate civility either. the vp debate turned out to be very civilized. it was very well received by the public. i would just say, i think harris kind of joined and said she would not stoop to that level of the insulting things like that when people would ask about the comment she would roll her eyes and say it is ridiculous, move on. same old trump, same playbook and move on. up until now, that has been their strategy. >> she is a black woman. she has to be careful around

this stereotype of being an angry black woman or a ball busting woman or anything around that so she is held to a different standard because she is a woman and because she is a woman of color. >> i hear fear versus joy. i hear are people tired or are they not tired of the trump era? those could be the two frameworks. final question before we wrap up when are you feeling safe to go on vacation? we will have an auction and then we will have an aftermath. >> this is a very real discussion in my household right now. end of november beginning of december. >> you are not sure yet. >> christmas ideally. i am from south carolina hopefully i will get to spend time in south carolina. i think no matter who wins, if kamala harris wins this backlash

will be massive. with barack obama and we have seen that. >> also the celebration and the joy. >> i think that's right. i think that's right. there will be dancing in the street and then there will be some, i think, shock among some communities as well and not in a good way. we will see when the campaign is called, but i think the reverberations of it iterate both positive and negative for quite some time. >> i am looking for the positivity. even though we talking about the exhaustive nature, all three of us have dream jobs. these are dream jobs. we get to document history. >> i remain optimistic about america, about america's future, certainly about the young folks that are here in this room. i say that as a black yay woman whose ancestors were enslaved. listen, this is a great country.

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>> iumbent republican congressman zach none faced off againstis democratic challeng to represent iowa's third congressional district. representative none was considered one of the most endangered u.s. house republicans in the 2024 cycle in the nonpartisan cook political report with amy walter rated the race a tossup. as of the final quarter but for election day, these two candidates raise $6.9 million according to filings with the federal election commission. outside groups had spent another 6.9 million on behalf of the democratic and republican candidates. the hour-long debate is hosted by kcc itb. >> known as a republican incumbent in this case. he is serving his first term in

congress. before that elected to the iowa house of representatives and later the iowa senate. he also served overseas as an intelligence officer in the united states air force for almost 20 years and is currently a colonel in the air force reserve. >> the democratic challenger in this race. he was in the army national guard and also a combat veteran who served overseas after 9/11. also working for the department of agriculture from 2015 until 2017. candidates want 60 seconds to answer a question. candidates will see a yellow light indicating they had 10 seconds remaining to answer that question and a red light will indicate when their time is up. if a candidate mentions their opponent in an answer the moderators will have a chance to give them 30 seconds to respond. throughout the night a team of kcc i journalists will be fact checking this debate live for us online on our website. you can scan the qr code on our screen to follow a longer visit

our website kcc i.com/politics. first let's start with opening statements. >> a random drawing determined to would go first. you have 60 seconds. >> i want to thank kcc i walkie high school for hosting this debate and for the islands tuning and at home. my name -- i love this country. so much so that at 17 years old i enlisted in the iowa army national guard and for eight years i served in the military including a deployment to afghanistan in 2004. when i came home, i had the honor again of serving this country at the u.s. department of agriculture. for 10 years i worked there with our farmers and veterans. i am ready right now to represent you in congress. there is no question my focus is clear. i will fight to pass a women's health protection act and give

women their rights back to make decisions about their own bodies i will also pay attention and fight for working families, seniors and small businesses. i will go after those big corporations price gouging i went and i will protect social security and medicare. and i am in congress i will fight for you, the people that put politics aside and i hope to earn your bow. thank you. >> you now have 60 seconds. >> first of all, thank you very much for everybody tuning in tonight, for the incredible team here at walkie to help put this on the periphery i would watching this conversation. this community helped appraise my family. my mom was a nurse at methodist hospital my data teacher. after that i had the opportunity to help raise my family here. kelly and i have had a wonderful experience in this community because of the good things that come out of iowa. one of the reasons we were so happy this past year to bring our two foster kids and as adopted kids. we are blended family but a family that knows what it's like to live in iowa in hard times like this. after 20 plus years serving the military i'm still in the reserves. i don't think my opponent for his service as well. this is something we have stood together for.

it does not matter if you are republican or democrat. when you're in the military in matters that you bring everybody home. helping protect this country and looking to serve. that is why am serving now is your congressman. we have served as the top 10 bipartisan in congress. delivering for islands regardless of party. >> we want to thought -- we want to start tonight with the economy. the most recent iowa poll found the top issue is inflation. according to the u.s. bureau of labor statistics the cost of gas and groceries is still much higher than they were before the covid-19 pandemic. what would you do specifically to lower costs for iowans? >> this is the number one thing i hear about when i go out. i talked to melba who raised her family in this community and now it's too expensive to stay in the house where she raise her kids. $26,000. that is what bite inflation is because every american over the past two years. going forward the trillions of dollars being spent by this administration, specifically champion to think that d.c. knows better than out places

like iowa should function meant that every time i help feed my kids in the morning omelettes are up 44%. we fill up the minivan, gas is twice as expensive as it was just three years ago. let's take best practices from iowa. cut iowa's taxes. make sure that i went to get more money in their pocket when they invest in their community and that is how you grow and recover. we can also take a lesson from the very first bill i introduced as a balanced budget. i will farmers, small business owners, small families bouncer budget. we should expect the budget to do the same. holding federal agencies accountable for their spending and cutting the runaway red tape in d.c. >> same question to you. how would you lower costs for iowans? >> i've been to all 21 counties. many of them multiple times. i listen and i learn. i hear about the issues that matter to them. there is no question that the cost of groceries continues to be high. going to the gas pump is a pinch in the pocketbook. we have to go after the price

gouging. big corporations who are raising up prices for us and not passing down the savings to us here in our communities. it is also really key, knowing that gas prices have already dropped down to under $3 a gallon. that is helpful. that is not enough. you have to make sure we increase housing access as well. quality affordable housing is critical here. when i'm traveling this district i'm listening and learning. i am hearing from parents i want to see their kids have an opportunity to chase their american dream. do the things that they did when they grew up. find a home and put their butts down. i think it is important to pay attention to all of these issues >> thank you. the topic of abortion. tonight we want to give each of you the chance to make your stances on this issue crystal-clear. you have said you would support passing a law that guaranteed a national right to abortion.

is there any point in a pregnancy that you believe that should be illegal? >> so, this is really clear. to me, critically important. again, listening to iowans on this issue. the abortion ban we have in this state, before most women even know they are pregnant. he laid the groundwork for this when he was in the state legislature. what we have today is exactly what he wanted. they are now banned before most women even though they are pregnant. this is extreme. even want to go further on this issue. supporting an abortion ban even in rape incest or the life of the mother. this is far out of step of where i went on this issue. women want to have the ability to make decisions about their own healthcare and they should. when it comes down to it, this is a deeply personal issue. when a woman who is pregnant needs to make these life-and-death decisions, it should be between her, her family and her doctors.

>> just to clarify, do you believe that any point in a woman's pregnancy that abortion should be illegal. >> so iowans have had role as a law of the land for almost 50 years. that is the space in which they are comfortable. there is only one person on this stage right now who will stand up for women's rights and that is me. unfortunately, the congressman supports his abortion ban here in iowa. abortion is now banned before most women even though they are pregnant. this is exactly what he wanted. women were comfortable and families were comfortable with where role was. we need to pass a woman's health protection act in congress i will do that. >> your stance on abortion has been the subject of several television ads this election cycle. can you make it clear for our viewers tonight, is there any federal policy restricting abortion access that you would support? >> this is an important question

both of these candidates need to answer it clearly. let me be crystal clear where i stand and have stood. i am pro-life. i have voted for exceptions for rape, incest and certainly for the health of the mother. i believe strongly that we should not have a federal abortion ban and take that away from iowans. i also have been a strong champion and led bipartisan legislation to ensure that we have ivf access which right now can run families tens of thousands of dollars just to start a family. it has impacted our family. i also want to be very clear that we should have over-the-counter birth control for women. something i've champion in the statehouse and now the federal level. if a guy can go to the gas station get birth control a woman to be able to go to the pharmacy and get the same. i equally believe that we need to talk about healthcare holistically here were women across our country and right here in iowa. one of the reasons i bled the train more nurses act to help

our communities get access to those healthcare providers at a time and place where they need it most. >> also on the topic of reproductive healthcare, do you think that congress should pass national protections for in vitro fertilization or other fertility treatments? >> one of the reasons that i've helped lead this hope act. we help families start their family. that means ensuring that women have access to ivf and families can do it. amanda, i will turn back to you the original question. i think it's important we are crystal-clear with iowans with where we stand on this. clearly, my opponent is not going to handle this. we need to help them get access to ivf. we need to make sure that iowa has a voice and everything else that we discussed we need to make sure we have over-the-counter birth control affordable and available to women both in our rural and urban areas. finally we need to make sure we have access to the nurses and our county hospitals. that is one of the reasons i felt champion a loan forgiveness programs for ob/gyn to go to these rural and underserved

communities so we can help woman's maternal health from start to starting a family. >> mr. balcom, i will ask you the same question. should congress pass national protections for in vitro fertilization and other treatments? >> there is a bill that the congressman can sign onto. unfortunately, he has now. the reality is his record shows that access to contraception and ivf could be under threat if he continues to be in congress here the reality is the congressman has inserted himself into a deeply personal decision. he has put himself in the doctor's office. in a place where he is telling a woman what to do with her body. by telling her what to do with an abortion. the reality is we have to make sure that this decision, a deeply personal decision stays with the woman, her family and her doctors. it is so crystal clear to me that this is not a politician's place to be in this

decision-making process. we have to find a way to give women their rights back. that means codifying role in congress. passing woman's health protection act and getting that done. i am the only person on the stage right now that can do that >> you are mentioned there, would you like 30 seconds to respond? >> my opponent will not answer the question. he makes more time and money on this every time that he tries to go on the attack. this is a deeply personal issue. we need to have trust for i went that they know what to do and give them that right. let me be clear again. i am pro-life. i support exceptions. rape, incest and health of the mother. i have already made investments in ivf and worked on real legislation that has the ability to pass. we have worked consistently to make sure we have the healthcare workers and teleports right here in iowa. and now my time in congress. >> moving on to the topic of immigration this evening. 8 million people have tread

across the southern border since president biden took office. that is according to the u.s. customs border control. what action should congress take to secure the u.s. southern border. >> there is no question that we have to secure the border. there was a bite partisan border security package that was in congress and unfortunately congressman nunn and his colleagues let it die purely for political purposes. this bipartisan bill was supported by the border patrol agents. they would have added more agents to the border. it would have deployed barriers, it would have deployed smart technology to identify drugs. importantly, it would have forced the president to shut down the border if it became overwhelmed. that is really important for us to get done. when i get to congress i will make sure that i vote for that. >> that same question for you. what action should congress take to further support the southern border. >> we passed the most

comprehensive border security bill in my first weeks on the job. what my colleague here is talked about as a straight up lie. there was never a bill that came out of the senate. there was never built a boat it -- vote against. more importantly we have the equivalent of free iowa was it was common to our country to the tune of upwards of $9 million. this was a political operative out there encouraging the biden administration to welcome this in. equally important we now the situation where 150 americans are dying every single day. from ihl to my daughter's age because of chinese made drugs are coming through the southern border by mexican cartels. worse we have a human trafficking catastrophe. there is a simple way that we can solve this. all the simple bills in congress that can be passed to not go into effect if we have a presidency that fails to lead on them. will you stand up to your boss and he can sign right now remain in mexico. he can sign a bill that make sure catch and release is ended

and he can build the border wall helping everyone today. you commit to that with me? >> you have a chance to respond since you mentioned you by name. >> again, folks, it is unfortunate that the congressman and his campaign lies about my positions in my record. i have never supported the things that he talks about. the reality is i think iowans are tired of these political games where folks are trying to drive wedges between us. we actually want to see action and get things done. that is why we elect our representatives actually get stuff done. zach dunn has failed to do that. when there was a bipartisan bill that could have actually protected us, infuse the necessary resources into the border patrol, we could have had that and it could have been in effect by this point. we could have had more technology out our borders already. >> i do want to talk about the topic of border security, the topic of sentinel. last year, a record number of

fentanyl pills were seized in iowa. 105% increase from the year prior. mr. nunn, we will start with you what action could you take to stop the flow into iowa. >> first of all i want to say huge thanks to our law enforcement who oversees that on interstate 35. there were enough fentanyl pills in there to kill everyone in the des moines metro area. this is a challenge that is been ongoing for the past three years we have only seen a surge in this epidemic. the three things we could do right now is close the border. we could reinstate remain in mexico we couldn't catch and release where this comes over. making sure we have the medication like narcan readily available to help save lives. that is helping. tragically, we are putting too many people in the impossible position where comes to human trafficking who become unwitting servants to the cartels. painfully, paying all of this money back to china.

not only is it a deadly surge in our country, it should be stopped today, but instead allows it to continue to grow. i passed it in hr two. i would like to see real action on this in a bipartisan way. we all agree on this. the challenges, the president will not close the border. >> what could you do to stop the flow of drugs into our stay. >> this is a tragedy in our country. for the number of people that lose their lives to this drug. for all the families that have been affected by this. my heart goes out to you and it is unfortunate that here in our country we have not stopped the flow. we have to find ways to get that smart technology to our borders. that smart technology can identify drugs like this coming through in vehicles. it is really key for us to make this happen and for the families who are continuing to suffer through this, we can find a way to stop it. there is no question we have to

solve this issue. >> foreign-policy is top of mind right now for so many iowans based on various conflicts happening worldwide. what do you think is the biggest foreign threat to our country right now? >> thank you for this question. as an army national guardsmen, someone that served in the iowa national guard for eight years including a deployment to afghanistan, i understand what it's like to go overseas for my country. i spent an entire year serving in afghanistan on the ground on a team base where only 40 or 50 of us full-time soldiers looked out for each other supporting each other, had each other's backs. the reality is i spent 8400 hours on the ground there. for the conflicts we continue to see around our world, it is really hard. i have fought in the war.

and to see the conflicts we have right now, this unjust war from russia attacking ukraine, the conflicts in the middle east, we know we also have a challenge here with china and iran. we have to make sure that we go after these threats had on and stand together. give diplomacy a chance and have a strong national defense. >> you now have 60 seconds. what do you think is the biggest foreign threat to the u.s. right now? >> the biggest deterrent to threats are pieced through strength. something the u.s. military has done very admirably in the last few decades. conflicts at both my opponent and i have been in from afghanistan to iraq, flying operations off the coast of russia to working counterintelligence missions off the coast of china. i land the bill to help provide the largest troop pay increase for our listed forces who are on the frontline. we have kamala harris saying no americans are in harm's way.

the failed withdrawal from afghanistan opened up a disastrous withdrawal from american deterrence on the world stage. russia, iran, china. the most dangerous threat coming from china. we have to recognize the threat to the homeland like with israel is a threat we must face together. on the frontline of doing this. helping fund and pay for this. >> yesterday marked one year since the attack on israel where more than 1100 people were killed and 250 were kidnapped. since then intentions have only escalated with growing humanitarian concerns in gaza. should the u.s. get involved in stabilizing the region as more countries join the fight? >> last night i joined with families at the iowa capital. we had led just weeks after this

tragic incident happened in israel. what happened in israel could happen right here in america if we do not stand unified. israel has a right to defend itself. one of the reasons why it stood shoulder to shoulder with the israelis as they defend their country. let's not forget that we still have american hostages being held by hezbollah and hamas today. the reality is, until they are able to give back those innocents who have been taken victim, they will continue told not just americans and israeli hostages, but they will hold palestinians hostage. now we see lebanon falling into the same boat. let me be very clear. i ran, the number one funder of terrorism in the world has killed countless numbers of u.s. troops. i put sanctions to the tune of $80 billion. stopping hamas, stopping hezbollah.

the diplomacy conversation. do should be an intro coleader on this. biden has no credence left. just today there defense minister refused to meet with the u.s. they are drifting further away and as a result they become more dangerous. >> the same question to you. should the u.s. get involved in stabilizing the middle east has this work continues to escalate? >> i believe we need to stand with our allies where they are and when they needed. that includes israel and that includes ukraine. from what we saw happen one year ago, when hamas viciously attacked israel, slaughtered nearly 1200 people, took hundreds of folks hostage, can you even imagine being a parent

of one of those young folks who is still hostage today? i think we need to make sure we keep our eyes on the ball here. thomas started this war. they continue to hold these hostages. they have the ability to end this conflict by returning those hostages. at the same time, when i employ to afghanistan, for an entire year is there we would run missions. in my breast pocket i had a rules of engagement card. we reviewed those every time we went outside the wire. it is important for us to make sure that in these conflicts, rules, international rules of law are followed in a humanitarian aid gets into the places where it needs to get to make sure that innocent civilian lives are not harmed. >> now moving onto the topic of agriculture which is a big one for our stay. you worked for the u.s. department of agriculture. the farm bill is now two years overdue. progress has really stalled over what should be included in that. what policy do you think needs

to be included in the next farm bill and what would you be willing to compromise? you have 60 seconds to respond. >> well, it was incredible. an honor, truly, to have worked at the usda for 10 years. i had a chance to work closely with our farmers, workers, ranchers and in particular our veterans. it was an amazing thing for me to do that. i know that the farm bill has always been one of those bills in congress that has received incredible bipartisan support. so, it is unfortunate to see that it is not happening now. jody, you mentioned it. it is expired. an expired over a year ago. the extension has expired again. there pieces in this barbell that i don't think will pass because politics yet gets in the way again. i went want to see someone who is willing to get in there to compromise, to get things done. i am willing to do that. i think it is critically important for us to pay attention what is in the farm bill.

paying attention to ensuring support for nutrition programs and making sure that we actually support iowa crops versus southern crops given the proposals here. >> mr. none. same question for you. what policy do you think needs to be included in what would you be willing to compromise on? >> first of all i am thankful for all of the guys harvesting tonight. thank you for everything you do for our country. i am thrilled to have over 87,000 iowa small farmers endorsing my team. here is why. we have led while being on the house and committee. both democrats and republicans working together. even though i'm a freshman on the committee, we been able to get more legislation in the farm bill. they wanted a five-year opportunity than any other member of the community. .... ....

voted for taxpayer jobs and private school tuition, what is your view from republican politics before to establish national private school scholarship program x. >> i am the son of public school child. should recognize the opportunity for kids, families and it is to grow this environment is set to take away from public schools, is to complement education in all its forms. the during my time in the state legislature, we passed for public schools and to increase teacher pay is a priority.

make sure we are here because education is one of the top issues. as i traveled to a third district, listening to islands, they are terrified of the my

have one grocery store or pharmacy, one school, one doctor's office if you're lucky so if you lose the school because kids are no longer going back to funding for that, the place for folks gather at paragraph country meet and gather have a pep rally on friday night for football game, you lose that community. these. >> we are going to take a short break and we will hear from students television ads over the airways right now, we'll be right back back there congressional district they about joining us tonight is a.

>> you wanted to get the opportunity to ask their own questions and we begin with walkie student with more. >> , junior here at southwest high school. other states for participation. in 35 to 26% my question is, how do you plan to increase dissipation? >> thank you for your question and for participating. there's no question young folks like you for the future of our state and country to make a difference here. student class, and paying

attention to the issues that matter and varies from person to person's spirit is in the air willing and able trying to agent of the folks in the public eye as you are the one to lead us in our communities. >> complements to everyone on the team. the reality is it's probably will a little support things on the public service by. there's a lot of good work done

words on social media will right here but i salute you for being involved. >> make sure young people of the opportunity to vote early. sometimes it's too hard to take effect when you're 17. if you like being a young person making sure your voices heard i think coming up to the capital will bring in a new intern and make sure we have options available. it's totally important to have a voice but encourage here's and engage that way. >> will allow here a question alexis more that walkie high school.

>> i'm a senior at gorky high school and student the president. we address opposing perspectives. my question to you is, considering your perspective, and what evidence do you think? like an important question for our democracy. bill back out of service and i believe we want to work together. the first three bills i passed were done up for myself. together helping rural housing will be passed to help with a fellow veteran on the other side of the dial now working closely

on veteran suicide because 22 veterans a day will lose. i'm proud to be the top legislature and more proud to go back and drive them across the finish line. >> thank you for what you're doing in your own will. your school is a lot bigger than the school i grew up in. it is so important to find common ground. there's no question students can find a way to get things done. the respect is years of service in the military and those are areas in which we can find ways

to support veterans and service numbers. an incredible opportunity to work with folks or in active duty and help them get engaged with and find opportunities and agriculture and i tried to hide them in my office and they have an incredible skill set to leverage here in america. >> islands see a lot of messaging right now who want to respond to those claims. the tv ad claims a series of the work on chemical in 2020.

>> a moderate to have the opportunity to work on programs i talked about serving at the usda military liaison of confederates find jobs in active duty military service in d.c. is that the purpose and work in our communities across the country. i commend the because they are making a difference in this time to prepare them and have access to a program and restore and fix up facilities.

>> did you delete your post? >> i don't have a recollection of what those posts are but people clean up social media over time. it seems like everyone knows about them. >> add links to two product 2025 and he would support 2025 by eliminating department of education, what is your response to those claims? >> let me set the record straight. i have never signed up for that or even read project 2025. as far as i understand it's a democrat talking points. being truthful and transparent, stop blaming staff when you're seem to be deleted in can't hold

you accountable is wrong so i believe that is not who i am. my first week instead of two leadership and said the work going to include anything, it's important we recognize the honest and truthful with islands and get the job done for them. >> you mentioned if you would like that. >> it is an opportunity here. project 2025 is already happening and what he's done with abortion and closing further and he laid the

groundwork for it. that is a project 2025 homework. >> that is another piece. >> you have 30 seconds to respond. >> you start your career as a political operative. it needs to stop. let's be honest with islands. we will always put you first and have always let on issues important to you, please leave us in our community and recognize education is important in all its forms. i trust islands to make the best playbook and make it healthy will go to washington d.c. >> earlier this year the teen government shot and killed a student and a principal at a

school in kerry and other students were injured. according to the school safety bureau, iowa is experiencing a significant running numbers since the school year began. what you believe will keep iowa students stage going to school each morning ask. >> no parent, no family member, no one in our community to know what it's like to lose a child particularly the result of school violence. we put our six kids on the bus every morning and is on the corporate of our mind not only how to keep them safe will catch them through difficult world right now. one reason is in the state legislature i made it a priority to secure our school. the fact that funds critical

aspects to protect our community and enforce laws and make sure law enforcement schools work together so that happens, we can respond. >> would you believe is the key to keeping our school safe? >> for the community of perry first, it's unacceptable and i'm a public school dad and i went to public school myself. i take my daughter to school everyday.

for there are commonsense ways to do this. >> what you think the biggest challenge is in rural iowa and what steps you take to address those challenges? >> this is incredibly important

to me. i'm part of this sandwich generation were a number of years ago i started the process helping my mom and dad and it is critically important for thousands of violence. we have to find a way to make sure people who need access to healthcare they could. we should find ways to do this. medicare is a key program that helps folks access and the ability to negotiate returned drugs. my dad had a folk stroke. he's okay now but one drug is now one of the drugs negotiate for.

you. >> to eliminate social security and medicare, can you address if you want to eliminate those? >> we've come out time and time again, we are in support of social security and medicare. it is a bright they deserve an athletic clear will like that everyday in washington and in the work we've already done. we should not eliminate fraud waste and abuse. i'm disappointed my party continues to propagate alive so check out right now. he continues to run commercials and talk about, we are one 100% in support of social security and medicare.

a group in washington d.c., a group for raising the retirement age to 70. my mom worked at a fauci. i can't imagine a scenario where we work the extra years before retirement age. >> we want to move on and continue to talk. >> we need to make sure we prioritize this.

we made a priority $35 of the workforce available. i think we should talk about solutions. >> we are happy to discuss more solutions will. >> one oral excellent to internal healthcare and lose access again and now continuing water and nonexistent and him having. you have 50 seconds.

will you drink or infrastructure. i go through about every quarter and they need access to the key technology. make sure mothers have access to primary care provider when they needed for the ticket. a three hour drive is still a three hour drive and the medications they need and making sure rural communities can support the community.

>> we have to get more doctors and. the fact that we continue to see care units closed, it is important to see. the fact that we don't have access is a challenge. the have to make sure. julie and you will first mainly the pain a challenging file will click in 19.

>> no professional will be put in harm's way. while staying some of the most low income. the collected, how do left both sides of the political and economic spectrum? >> right here, a county of 4000

people, here is what i do know as someone born and raised in a small community 25 years working in a fauci you were able to raised five kids with that salary so now my wife, myself, my sisters and family, we care for them and it's critical to make sure people pay into the system can afford to retire with dignity. we have to make medicare longer and unleash an economic room in these areas creating an ecosystem environment to make it happen.

invest in places $6 million economic investment challenging, if it fails, 90% of iowa businesses was to revert into an old resort because 40% on small businesses and families more

than any family convert to muster. >> we want to get to know you on a personal level. who was your hero growing up and why? >> hands down my mom and dad. it was the guy there can care of my brother and i. the i hope in some small way i can do the same. >> who was your hero growing up in why? >> hearing their stories growing

up inspires me. the courage it takes for a long to escape in the middle the night by herself, escape from the war, it takes a lot of courage. my dad who worked for usaid helping identify humanitarian aid dropped down to groups clean the front lines of war for my parents when they made it to the united states, they instilled a love of country in the so much so that i've enlisted in the national guard, an incredible thing. >> what is your coffee order but? >> i want to extend.

>> thank you to the campaign for being here. you have 60 seconds. >> thank you for the conversation and two islands tuning in a home, i hope you can tell how much i love this country, i've dedicated my life getting back to it. the contracts cannot be more clear. i will fight for working families and seniors and small businesses until after the

corporations and i'll fight for you. the next thank you to all students here tonight and thank you for the opportunity to have the conversation. i think it is important you have two choices. future. the choice of growing our economy or knows better than you, tax our economy. something you can do today if we had real leadership in the white house and senate, protect our country and fentanyl and stop human trafficking and powers of the border. the opportunity to take i will best practices to d.c. and ensure social security and medicare and make sure best examples are ones can be shared with the rest of the country.

small businesses and law family farms here. i hope i can earn your vote for another two years. >> we want to thank everyone for joining us for the third congressional district debate and the school district for having us here. >> thank you all for watching. have a great night. ♪♪ ♪♪ debates from places shaping our state's future and the balance of power in washington.

follow coverage from local to national debate anytime online at c-span.org/campaign and watch tuesday november 5 for live real-time results. >> vice presidential nominee tim walz on theampaign trail in bay wisconsin affected to get underway at 45:00 p.m. eastern and a little later presidential nominee kamala harris 60 supporters at a rally inri pennsylvania. 7:30 p.m. a live on c-span2, c-span now free global video of and c-span.org.

tim walz in minnesota over the weekend to mark the getting state. as we wait for governor walz and his rally green bay.

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planes. it was incredible. great people talk about it. i said things like hunting and this day is really special. i can still remember with my dad. [inaudible] i think that really such a part here. the nation is kind of desperate. i certainly believe. [inaudible] >> i tried to understand it but you change, you wonder how much a change. [inaudible]tioning out here. >> vice presidential nominee governor tim walz is on the campaign tra i green bay, wisconsincheduled to speak at a rally with two other

democraticovnors. wisconsin tony evers and eten whitmer. our live covere will begin shortly here in cspan2 but what we are waiting here is some of today's "washington journal." still in barbara's up first in cleveland, ohio i'm sorry charles and chester, virginia democrat europe first. >> yes, good morning. thank you for having me on. c-span is a very valuable message. we need to be able to get people on who have an understanding of what is at stake. the black men, a number of them calling in a very serious issues. but they do not seem to understand that a lot more is at stake. in the future of this country is at risk. it's not about getting a check.

it's not about will i have enough money to buy an extra can of this or that. it's about this country's future. we don't have a government that a swilling to provide the services that people need, but is of little value to us. a dump truck trying to overthrow the government. it should be a real wake-up call to everybody that your issues don't matter but if d you do not have a government, you won't have an issue. the number of people and organizations are growing exponentially. we have to take action and we have to do something to enlighten the people your future, your social security, your medicare and the things you take for granted will not exist as we know it. we find a way to wake up the

populace g and get some of these idiots off of td. that who just want a check. >> barbara in cleveland, ohio outlined the republicans go ahead. >> good morning. i had hoped to talk to doctor zinn bergen ask a question. i will just throw this out here. someone called in regarding educating people on nutrition. well, the snap card let's people buy chips and cookies so all of this junk food, and talk about t people getting sick. the government is allowing it. now on a wicket for women and children you are required to buy healthy food. so i doso not understand this

whole process. i know the farm bill has something to do with it and i meantat not exactly sure what'sp with that is my comments. rockaway park new york good morning. >> good morning. first by like a compliment to you called out a guy named he's like hello? are you saying something text listen to your phone or hearing you. what's your comment in open form what public policy doing talk about? >> the public policy. what is the difference how we can accept the results of sports contest without attacking referees or conspiracy theories because your team a loss.

why are sports venues more acceptable than election results. we don't shoot reveries do we? do we attack the other team? this is out of hand. and i would just like to say, i'm afraid there's going to be a lot of violence in this election. and i'm going to stay out of it and have a great t day. >> host: are you going to vote? >> caller: absolutely. absolutely. i vote for what i know, what is taught as a child. we went what candidate you went about four as? >> caller: absolutely kamala harris. i would'veui voted for a sack of squirrels. houston republican good morning. >> good morning.

i was calling to comment about the medical problem the guest was commenting about. we have a higher authority over all physicians godly physicians. we need to include them in our medical plan here on earth. so many people come in with all aches and pains to their doctors which is doctors getting tired of hearing about little aches and pains. we need to learn to pray about our aches and pains to our heavenly position before we go to our earthly physician. when people realize who they are, they are children of a god. they can go to him for a lot of their problems. that will help the situation a lot. bill is a need for another pill,

and another pill and people are getting addicted. we need to come to our heavenly father. the problem with our problem today is we have to realize trying to do away with our godly christian nation. mass of their doing away with the. >> that is virginia and the keystone state good morning. donald trump was running for president 2020 put much in front of black voters. assuming everything he can to try to stop the black people from the boats. trying to demand the right to vote. by praising trump like he's grape or they are dumb enough to think he pickin one of them to e his vice president there so it desperate to hang onto power.

>> wising the polling you're showing the joe biden did in 2012 super donald trump numbers with black men creeping up on the latest poll. that is about five points better than he was doing back in 2020. >> these days they don't even answer the phones they got a lot of spam calls. on that big night i wasn't sure whether it's a spam call or not. i'm just going to say it like donald trump is nothing but a criminal. people have to be pretty desperate. you got men and congress and to have women to have more guts like liz cheney because we'll leave this program for live coverage vice president till nominee governor tim walz is at a campaign rally in green bay, wisconsin with two other democratic governors.

with tony evers and gretchen whitmer break live coverage. >> it is so great to be back with my good friend at our next vice president tim walz. so we are taking this bus all across wisconsin, michigan, and pennsylvania. because together we are going to win this thing. [cheering] today mattia wyman this fight and what is at stake. why you are here right now just think about it. what is at stake? who your why is, what your why is but might why is my two daughters. i want them to have every opportunity to succeed and have the freedom to live their own life under their terms.

i know kamala harris and tim walz will work hard every day to make it better place for all of our children and their generation. grow our economy and protect fundamental freedoms. 3 million homes to tax relief working and middle-class families. in-home care for seniors on medicare to protecting women's rights, workers rights lgbtq+ rights. there is a seat at the table for every one of us in this country.

have a live normal lives like ours. they get what we have been through. that is why they are fighting for us. donald trump does not get you or your life. at all. do you think he's ever had to put off a car repair until he could afford it? i mean do you think he's got a drivers license? [laughter] do you think he's ever scanned a coupon to save a couple of bucks when he's checking out at the grocery store? do you think he's ever been in a grocery store? do you think he ever sat down and thrown up three bills knowing he could only pay one or two of them? only cares about himself. he will say anything to get himself elected. as president he will leave us behind just like he did before we here in the midwest know about his record of broken

promises, right? that midwest in the world's got to learn. we know, trump claimed he would save american manufacturing on this issue in so many others he was all talk. during his four years in office, more than 200,000-dollar jobs were shipped overseas. he said not one auto plant would close. the truth, six did. he even suggested auto manufacturing move out of the midwest into antiunion states. trump loves to praise the long mosque and his and non- union plants in texas. he thanks that we are stupid. he goes down to texas and says e and b are the greatest thing. if they're being built by american workers, by an american company like michigan he craps all over it.

we won't forget. at the same time comic jd manson said he would not support a 500 million-dollar investment for the biden/harris administration to upgrade factories in michigan and protecting the 650 union auto jobs. jd vance called that table scraps. table scraps. those union gambits and ask them how they feel about it. right? the biden/harris administration took action to save hundreds of michigan auto jobs. jd vance would say no thanks. you cannot make this stuff up. trump failed us once. we cannot let him do it again. [cheering] [applause] no place in america you are right we are not going backward that's right we are not going back, go ahead.

no place in america understands better than the midwest that when a factory leaves, it takes a whole lot with it. it means fewer students in our public schools fewer responders, residents and all of us democrats and independents want to bring manufacturing jobs back home everyone has a path to prosperity these jobs keep roof over our head food on our table to make sure kids have what they need to be successful. after four years of donald trump's failures, things finally started changing when joe biden in kamala harris went into the white house. they worked across the aisle to invest in the american industry and midwest workers. to date there are more autoworkers, more factories getting built more roads getting

fixed more middle-class jobs then when trump was president. that midwest is moving forward thanks to kamala harris and leaders like tim walz. say it with me, we are not going back. >> we are not going back. not going back. >> so, let me just get real for just a second period look at what just happened in the last few weeks. two devastating hurricanes that caused so many their lives and destroyed communities. in moments of crisis people expect their leaders to put politics aside and work together to solve problems. thankfully that is exactly what president biden and vice president harris are doing. i can tell you as a governor way far away from the south we sent the michigan national guard to

help with the response because it is the right thing to do. in a crisis, a leader who asks was there governor nice enough to me when deciding whether to send to vladimir putin or the states and this country is not the kind of leader we need. we need leaders to roll up their sleeves saint what do you need and how can i help you? right? this election we need to elect a commander-in-chief who has lived a life like ours. he understands that we are going through. he was taking care of a sick parent who has a running mate who is a teacher and a veteran and someone you can be proud of. we deserve a commander-in-chief who is ready to hit the ground

running on day one. unlike trump, the first thing kamala harris will ask of any of us is how can i help what do you need are you okay and where can i support you? that is what kamala harris will do is our commander-in-chief. because if we have learned anything it is in the next four years there will be some crisis of some sort. we know that. we are going to elect kamala harris and tim walz because they are going to show up for us every single day crisis are not paid when god forbid there is, they will have our back. [cheering] so, they are just like us but they embody the values of us midwesterners. the things that we teach our kids tell the truth, work hard, get stuff done.

[applause] midwesterners are strong. they are smart and they are good people. they deserve no less in their commander-in-chief the next president of the united states kamala harris and tim walz will give us exactly that. so wisconsin are you ready to do everything we can and the next three weeks to make sure we win this thing? [cheering] [applause] are right please join me giving a big warm welcome to your favorite governor one of my favorite governors tony evers. >> thank you. thank you so much. hello wisconsin.

how dhec are you green bay? it sounds like you are jazzed. let's hear it again for governor whitmer. you know it's not every day a man gets that kind of applause and green bay. i will tell you i'm so glad she's here and spending a few days on the bus traveling across wisconsin. thank you so much. and thank you for the packer fan van. where are you folks? good job everybody. so are you ready to hear from the next advice and president of the united states of america? i take that as a yes or it wisconsin, there's just a few weeks left to elect kamala harris and tim walz and send them to the white house.

people are already voting in so many undecided voters are yet to decide about who they are supporting. the work you do between today and election day can make a difference in this race. on november 5 which happens to be my birthday. [applause] we are going to reelect tammy baldwin. we are going to take back the assembly and takeback seats in the senate. were going to flip a couple congressional districts in wisconsin we are at it. and at the top of the ticket we have got our incredible vice president kamala harris. she spent the last four years defending our democracy. fighting for the freedoms we hold dear and working tirelessly to do the right thing and deliver for us.

she's a champion for lowering costs including capping insolenn at 35 bucks a month. she has helped deliver investments that are transforming our communities, rebuilding our infrastructure and supporting our working families. and when it came time to pick her vice president nominee she had the good sense to pick a midwestern former teacher turned governor. how about that? and it turns out the winning combination and wisconsin also. i note my friend tim walz is going to be an incredible incredible vice president. that is because governors get it done. so wisconsin i'm going to ask you, are you all in?

good because we have to keep it wisconsin and the rest of the blue wall in place. here's the deal about the two jokers in this race. donald trump and jd vance are dangerous threats to our country and our democracy. they are not running to help others are running to serve themselves and those at the top. radical project 2020 pride agenda it will not help wisconsin families. it will hurt them. donald trump drag -- brags how we quote unquote wrote veit wade. because of trump's handpicked supreme court wisconsin women now know what it means to live in the states with a near-total abortion ban. they know because they lived it. going up trump and vance will try to pass eight national abortion ban rollback access to birth control, emergency contraception and even fertility

treatments. we know, guess what else they are doing? we know they will repeal the affordable care act and deny coverage to folks like me in so many others and people you care about that have pre-existing conditions. and, they will get tax breaks for the ultra rich and big corporations instead of helping working families get ahead. that is just wrong folks. that is just wrong. wisconsin this november the people have the power and they have a choice we are not going back. we are not going back. we are not going back. we are not going back. we are not going back too. >> and in wisconsin were going to tell donald trump comic jd vance are republicans up and down the ticket exactly that come november 5. so let's get to work in a win an

this thing. [cheering] [applause] now, it is my honor, my honor to introduce a friend, fellow governor and someone who is going to make a phenomenal vice president. let's give a warm wisconsin welcome to governor tim walz. [cheering] [applause] >> hello green bay. good to see you all. can i just say there are so many reasons to be thankful but i for one would just like to say to my dearest friends happen to be two of the most effective and decent people i have ever met in tony evers and gretchen whitmer. so thank you. incredible. as tony said it, let's be clear. i think you know in the state

what you have been on behalf of the rest of the country, the rest of the country needs is senator tammy baldwin. please send her back. please send her back. between minnesota and wisconsin we have three of the best senators in the entire country. the other one not so much. you work on that next time. i would like to give a big thank you today especially to the leadership of our indigenous sovereign nations who are here today said thank you for that. each and every one of you. it's a monday and october you came here, got in line came in here to show how much you love this country in the work you're going to do for it. thank you, each and every one of you. because of that i'm going to clear this up right at the beginning. i came just a few minutes ago

from lambeau field. first visit. my staff is like don't say anything about the vikings. said that's like telling someone not to swear in church. of course you don't do that. one of they think i'm a football guy that's like a religious experience over there. but look, we may not see eye to eye on that part of it but i'll tell you what we will all agree on this. this to the road to the super bowl, the road to controlled the senate and the road to the white house goes right through the nfc north. [cheering] [applause] michigan, wisconsin and minnesota. even alliance fan, piker's fan in vikings benefit nothing more amazing we got bernie sanders, dick cheney and taylor swift all on the same ticket. so there you go.

right 22 days until election day. we are running like this is it. twenty-two days until we win this thing. everything is on the line. everything is on the line. we are not going back. we are not going back. so look, we are barnstorming the country. we are doing radio, tv, podcast. i'm about to hit away from being a regular on fox news now. we are on a first name basis. our policies help the people who listen to fox news for that's why we need to get out there. over the weekend kamala harris made it very clear on this she is ready, she's been making this for a long time she's ready to be commander-in-chief and release her medical records. straight clean bill of health.

physical, mental stamina to do the job i thank you all the warm going with this, don't you? we are all wondering. donald trump said he would release his numbers but he would he would release his medical records. look i think you forgot to do he's been forgetting things will give them a break on this. but kamala harris is right on this watch as well as he's confused is a nearly 80-year-old man he's ranting and rambling until people get bored and leave his rallies that's happening. here's the thing about this. it would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous but yesterday he went on fox news as a safe place for him, he went on there. and he suggested he is going to send the military against the enemy from within. now i want you to think about it. in other words americans who do not support him. just to be clear if any of your neighbors or friends thanks about that june who is talking about? he is talking about? he's talking about you. he is talk about someone who

comes to a rally to express their love and their commitment to our democracy. donald trump sees that as an enemy. so i have to tie was someone who wore this nation's uniform proudly, as someone who is now the commander-in-chief of the minnesota national guard, the idea of sending u.s. military personnel against american citizens it makes me sick to my stomach. i will tell you what, we will at the lawyers decided what he said was treason. but what i know is it's a call for violence plain and simple. and it's pretty un-american if you ask me. so look, if anybody was to pretend this is a normal conversation that donald trump is having, just dispel that the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, mark billy said no one has ever been more dangerous to this country than donald trump. he is a fascist to his core.

let that sink in and do not be afraid of saying it. that is exactly who he is. that is exactly who he is. but here's the thing. here's the good news. we get to do something about it. if you are like me i'm sick and tired of this guy ready to turn the page on him. we can do that by making kamala harris the president of the united states. as you hurt governor whitmer zink vice president harris and i both go for middle-class families. everyone in here knows when the economy is fair it works the best for everyone. we have the saying and you have it too we all do better will be all do better. that's on a hard thing to understand under her leadership america is investing -- mike we are investing in america's people once again. today there's more factories getting built, more american energy being produced than on any given day when donald trump was president and that is a fact.

and, for these folks in the front row i'm going to say it. she is proud to have been part of the most prolabor administration and american history. on afraid and standing next to joe biden as we walk picket lines for workers demanding better pay and better working conditions. when workers win, america wins. it's that simple. and guess what, the middle class broke and businesses glory. they do things differently. trumped toxic big game but he was a disaster for working people he was one of the biggest losers of manufacturing jobs in american history and that is a fact. so to your neighbors, your friends, your family members that they say i don't like trump but i like his policies, which policies were those of and he destroyed american manufacturing question ricky shipped jobs to

china? he doesn't even manufactures bibles here he outsources that the china. just so we know. under his leadership 83000 jobs disappeared in wisconsin. now, i know this state knows thank god for tony evers in the sanity in this. because remember trump and that guy before tony when they went to the fox con sites, donald trump showed up with a golden shovel. you tell me if he knows which end of the shovel actually works? i guarantee you that. did the photo oppen promised you 13000 jobs a call that big glass sphere the eighth wonder of the world. i dotes on a shock to any of you but none of those jobs materialized. and that sphere, you can get a pretty good deal right now renting it out as a banquet hall, just so you know that.

once again it would be funny if it wasn't so sad because as donald trump's legacy. he claims he cares about union workers. that makes it harder for them to bargain for pay and benefits. if there's any question among our union sisters and brothers on this, donald trump is a scab. he will break picket lines. and the other date senator vance attacked the proactive bill that protects rights to collectively bargain. afl-cio said it is the most significant worker empowerment legislation since the great depression. jd advanced called it a failed monitor. just to be clear the guy who showed up and wanted to act nice a few weeks ago is not the guys and policies that care for workers. they undermined them every step of the way by the populace stick is nothing more than an act. they never worked union jobs per they've never been union

members. they've never cared about workers. trump promised he would stop off shoring his tax bill create incentives for people to do this. he cut taxes for billionaires and corporations during his presidency 200,000 american jobs went overseas. their revisionist history is a bunch of crab. it did not happen. they undermined us. look you all know it. we cannot have four more years of this. we won't have four more years of it. we won't. i want to make sure i speak precisely on his head donald trump does not have a plan that was not quite true he had a concept of a plan on healthcare but he actually does have a plan and it did us a favor they printed it it's about 900 pages of the project 2025. just so you know. now he made it clear, key will do it and just so all of you know i'll save the time and radiantly ought to see it it's pretty terrifying on the sill got the affordable care act said

he had a concept of a plan on daca in the jd vance try to explain what that was and i sit you should go back to the concept of a plan because you explain it it's worse. it's not going to work to cut social security just to be clear every single year donald trump was a president the fact checking until the end of time to propose cutting social security's budget. and now he wants to impose a trump sales tax on everything we buy for this not an economist in the world he thanks donald trump's tariffs will not end up costing you about $4000 per family. it's that simple. for your relatives and friends he thanks he's policies are going to be good let's affix it on the front end so we don't to dosaid told her so when they realize this happens if they let this guy. but i don't want you to think i'm not generous to this consummate that you never say anything about donald trump. anything nice. that's probably true, i have not. he has kept some of his promise

he took his rich friends down tamara lago he told them on camera you're rich i'm going to be a tax that he deliver that tax cut. so look i know these guys but this thing out there. now they pretend like i don't know what project 2025 is, what is it? now all the sudden we will protect women's reproductive rights but we did not say that of course they said it they said it every step of the way. i sit football folks know you drop a playbook you're going to run the place that's a project 2025's are going to run the place just so you know in a little side note they're talking about privatizing the national weather service, the weather forecasting. probably a pretty bad idea probably a pretty bad idea. look, i say this and i know this. i am preaching to the choir but our recital isn't 22 days people and we need to start singing. we need to start singing. so we know with their song

sounds like and it is terrible. but here's what our song sounds like. give you something to vote for. kamala harris' bill that a plan to build an opportunity economy when it lowers everyday costs, lists everyone up leaves and on behind talked about a child tax credit to help new parent $6000 the first year that child's life. that let you buy a crib, child car seat. we did in minnesota do you know what happens when you put the child tax credit it reduces childhood poverty by one third period so you start investing in little ones but you know the story you can invest in early childhood education but you can invest in child tax credit you can invest in children healthcare but you can invest in your schools because you can make a decision. you can buy school buses and school meals or you can by prison buses and present meals we would rather buy the school buses we would rather invest on the front end. she talks about a home.

these guys are speculators wall street guys. the use of the one to buying up homes and then jacking up the prices per that's what they do it's another commodity to buy and sell. homes or we take care of our family that is why kamala harris has proposed building more homes and it $20000 payment assistance. that makes things better. and the price gouging stuff, you sought an action of hurricane coming in florida, guess what happened airline prices are before that? people trying to fly out of florida that set a fair economy per that's not capitalism that price gouging we saw with insulin those of you who have to have your insulin capping at $35 to make sure everybody can get it. do you know why that is not against capitalism? because a cost five bucks to make that violent insulin. why were they selling it for 800? the answer is because they could and no one stopped them from doing it. it was putting people's lives at risk. we can get the same thing with prices across the board. for those of you who are small

business owners you know what you porridge that business but you know how hard it is to start it. right now, forever we've had a 5000 like tax credit to start that small business but that's not enough. kamala harris has posed a $50000 tax credit to let you get your small business off the ground. that is the way it should be. and then, some of you for the gray hairs and hear those who are if you're caught in that sandwich generation per if you are like me i have got nearly 90-year-old mom and as of yesterday i have an 18-year-old son on this. so there we go. gus turned 18 yesterday and said dad, you're working hard to get my vote. [laughter] there it is. but if you are in that generation you are concerned about cost but you are concerned about apprenticeship programs or college. you're also concerned about medicare and care for the parents. it's the most ground breaking

change to medicare and maybe the last 50 years the ability to pay for home healthcare for seniors been. it's incredible. and get this, medicare some of you know this. medicare did not pay for vision and hearing. those are important things you need it. she proposed adding that to medicare so that our seniors can get their hearing aids. so clip this for your republican uncle or brother and let them know when did the party of ronald reagan decide it was okay for government to make your personal choices? look, the republican party has added much to the benefit of this country. but that is not who donald trump in the mega folks are. when vice president harris and i talk about freedom she comes up to the station the song of freedom. not just a song. we mean you should be free to make decisions about healthcare in your family not politicians.

and these guys on social security we pay into it. it social security survivor benefits i am a teenager my little brothers in fourth grade, my dad by social security survivor benefits is there to keep my mom going. so we are midwesterners we are happy to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps we just didn't have any boots that's what social security survivor benefit is and we paid into it for those of the guys like donald trump who tells you it's a pensée scheme jd man's tells a building standing in between fiscal sanity in that. no it's not. how can a guy like donald trump not pay taxes for 10 of the last 15 years and then complain about social security? so kamala harris said will strengthen social security and medicare make for dignified retirement. and i am going to say on this one. freedom means a lot of things we are somewhat freedom of you to make your own choices freedom to

retire in dignity. freedom to have healthcare and i will say this freedom to send your children to school without worrying they'll be shot dead in the classroom for that is freedom. that is freedom. and i am going to take no crab off these guys but i know guns part i'm a veteran, i'm a hunter. kamala harris is a gun owner as we found out. we are not going to let them make this about the second amendment because we defend the second amendment. by first responsibility safety and security of our children. that's her first. alright, you have seen if you do not listen to the polling but it's pretty clear on this the message is sinking in with the women, fellas are going to make a message to the guys here for just a minute i'm going to make a message to the guys if you have any women you love in your life your wives, mothers, daughters, and friends, let's not forget their lives are literally at stake in this election. donald trump of putting those

three supreme court justices who did exactly that they told him to do. repeal roe versus wade. he brags about he is glad my daughter hope now has fewer rights than her mother had. that is what is bragging about. more than 20 states have the trump abortion ban he calls a beautiful thing. a beautiful thing you are all thinking this. that beautiful thing it means is all across this country in those states there are women being denied care in the er having miscarriages and parking lots for survivors of rape and incest being asked to carry those this pregnancy to term. that can be a women across the country. you sought with amber thurman down in georgia had to travel to north carolina because the chip she lost her life. she if she be living in a state or in the country fitted roe versus wade protection she very well would be alive today. the idea women's rights are dependent on geography is abhorrent to all of us. that's why we need to elect

kamala harris reinstall roe versus wade. and here's another one for the guys. here's another and for the guys because we care deeply about the family for they are not done project 2025 is going to restrict access to fertility treatments. they're going to be ripping that away print those out there if you've not been through the actual anguish of infertility i guarantee you know somebody who has my wife and i went through this for years. we had access to insurance and we had access to fertility treatments. i will have to tell you this, i'll be damned if i would deny anyone else a chance to have the family they want. you all go back to this. can you imagine. can you imagine the party of ronald reagan, the idea donald trump and jd vance should be able to tell you whether you have children or not. that's absolutely up orange. this issue about personal freedoms while it puts women's lives at risks every you have a

vested is to make sure donald trump it's nowhere near the white house again on that issue alone. now look they are just getting started perfume when there's a good chance next president of the united states will appoint two or three more supreme court justices. an institution and already said he's got near total immunity in adjudicating the laws for children and grandchildren's lives he could have six of nine justices on the supreme court appointed by one man who is above the law. that's not this country. that's not the way we want to go. just to be clear all of you know we don't one of our kids, we don't want it for a green kiss but here's the big finish on the spring that's not going to happen because we are going to elected kamala harris to be president. [cheering] twenty-two days, do not get

complacent. look, we are the underdogs but for christ sakes i'm a vikings fan we are always the underdog. you know that but we are also five -- zero this year so there is that. so it look, i've got to give a quote here on this is a bensalem bard who gave that one and i use it all the time on this. it's very simple analogy everybody in wisconsin. everyone in michigan, everybody in pennsylvania knows there's simply no substitute for work. no substitute for work 22 days we are leaving it all on the field is all caps no break for 22 days. -sing up got to be careful on this i say were going to sleep over dead people. a woman come up to be to rally and say you're taking that to literally man. i am not slowing down. you are not slowing down there are people out there that do not have the ability to come to a rally. they are too busy working two and three jobs they are concerned about healthcare they are concerned about their

children. we owe it to them to do everything we can to win this thing. there may be people not voting force but i'll guarantee you the proposals we are putting forward with kamala harris as a presence of them so much than donald trump we owe it to those folks too. so look, early voting starts in eight days here on the 22nd. we need all of you to get out there, but as early as you can. get out and bring people to the polls. i am telling you this thing is going to be close because we are a divided country. it is going to be close because they will do everything they can to try to suppress votes to make people feel like it doesn't matter. that is where you all come and you are motivated enough to be here. you've got a voice to talk to your neighbors. you know you run into those people say i'm just not that into politics. too bad, politics is into you. go vote. go vote. let them know. if you tell them, they will go.

one or two people in every precinct in wisconsin, or michigan, or pennsylvania will be the difference. not just for the next four years but for the next 40 years. not just for the state of this country but globally. the rest of the world is looking insane where's the america we love? where's the america that leads with his values, decency and kindness? i will tell you where it's out. it's right in this room. and you know it is the symbol the vice president said it seems simple but you know it is true but vincent barnette know it is no substitute for hard work. when you put that work in and we fight, we win. so wisconsin, let's win this thing right through green bay. let's elect kamala harris president. thank you.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i was born in a small town ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ all my friends are in a small town on my parents of the same small town ♪ ♪ my job is in a small town ♪ ♪ there is little opportunity for me ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> coming up a 7:30 p.m. eastern will have a live coverage of the democratic presidential nominee vice president kamala harri she will speak to supporters at a campaign rally in erie, pennlvia. watch it live here on cspan2n

our free mobile video app c-span now and on our website c-span.org. >> friday night watch c-span 2024 campaign trail. a weekly discussion how the presidential, senate and house campaigns have two reporters join each week to talk about the issues, messages and events driving the week's political views and to take a look at the week ahead. watch c-span 2020 campaign trail on c-span, online at c-span.org or download as a podcast on c-span now are free mobile app. or wherever you get your podcast. c-span, your unfiltered view of politics. >> mandate roundtable on healthcare and camping 2024. joining us from new york and

here in studio on the center for american progressr action. and we will start with you. before we get to the candidates policies on healthcare, where do you stand on what the government should be doing when it comes to americans in their healthcare? where they should be involved in what should follow the responsibility of individual americans? >> we believe everyone should have access to affordable health insurance in this country. healthcareto is a rate, it shoud not be a privilege for the role the government should be to facilitate the take-up of affordable health insurance as much as possible to make sure when people do go to the doctor, you know they're getting high quality care when their perch purchasing insurance or getting a good product you want them to access the providers they needed. and the government should be setting the rules of the road but making sure in the system that we have all entities are playing by the rules. to what they can to look out for the best interests of the

american public and again ensuring everyone in this country has access to the belt healthcare system in the world. >> is anything about that you disagree with that? >> i do not agree with disagree people having access to healthcare for that's what everyone wants appear to happen to be a physician so that is what i would like to breed that is what i want for myself. i want that for my family, one that for my patients but we differ on what is achieving that is it achieving it through making sure everyone has a governmentnt provided health insurance? or is it done through maximizing to choose what they would need and what they would want? i think we do that by maximizing choice and by increasing competition so that the best of plans, the best ways of providing healthcare rise to the top on people the opportunity to choose that for themselves because of that being said what do you see as the fault line of the healthcare of battles in this election cycles? where are the two parties

differing here? >> there is one side that seems intense on expanding government provided care. and theyo honestly don't care if it's done in an efficient way if it's done and eight wasteful way or not. you have a one party that wants to expand the market places and they will do that by increasing the subsidies. they will do that in a way that induces people to misstate their income and have fraud. paragon health institute we issued a paper dealing with that. because of the changes in the subsidies structure that were included in the rescue plan and extended in their fight inflation reduction act get no premium care. they pay nothing.

that