ensuring that we can look at those technologies and make sure we can have agreements that reflect those technology. fact i was just in scandinavia, in finland, sweden, and acrylamide of technology there that we should be using jointly hit with the united states. especially for purposes there in europe and to deter potentially more aggressive behavior by russia. defense cooperation agreements come also the same way. what can we do to look at where the threats are and do more to combine resources and capability and capacities of our nation's? we're not the only nation that does really cool stuff and i can push technology and can really address the future challenges. i would argue also, too, we need to do a better job looking in to the windshield. we are always looking at standpoint of being somewhat arrogant about how we see things, and that is we always believed that with the best

technology in the world, which we do, but we look at it and say our technology is it only technology. listen, we've got great technology but other nations have the same. the question is how do we partner and leverage that technology? how do we make sure, too, we are more farsighted in what we look at? what we've been doing for the use say we've got great technology, we have to do is put the best technology out there and is so far had of anybody else does nothing anybody can do to counter that. well, today's world that's the wrong answer. china has been very adept at countering the technology that we put forward. so the question then becomes how do we look farther out into what i call the windshield? how do we look at what do we have available from a technology standpoint rex what do we envision could be there to counter that technology and then what do we do to get a step out in front of what the countermeasures might be? we have to be more productive and how we view the space in the future. and then get well beyond what

current technology is today and then really anticipate and get ahead of what the next step arer answers will take. i think those things are key. listen, and another thing we have to deal with and we have dealt with this an armed services is there's always a proficient to say we have to buy everything you. listen, i want to make sure we're supporting u.s. industry but we had some incredible industrial capability with our friends and we should be looking at the ways to both politically and diplomatically achieve that and say, it shouldn't just be by u.s. pirg it should be by u.s. and from friends. because we will not have the total capability ourselves. i understand wanting to build that capability and we should do that but we can do that simultaneously while working with our friends to use very capability and their advancements in technology. >> are you optimistic that congress can work with the executive branch to sort of

balance between that by local proficient mindset and then also what you just spoke about about the need to also support allies? >> absolutely. i think we have to. it's an imperative, those things have to happen. we cannot do this all by ourselves. there's only so much industrial capacity here. so in many of these ferries we could buy every thing possible they could be the produced by u.s. copies and still fall far short. i think we can do those things, i do think also we ought to look more at partnerships. we should be partnering with other companies around the world to do those things. in virginia we had a company scandinavia that builds the navy strike meza, joint strike missile. they are going to be building that here in the united states. that's a candidate income processes we will locate here and built here in the united states. those of the things we need to be encouraging and enhancing here, especially in this situation where they had this technology, they can build it

today. we ought to be using more of those relationships. we also need to look past where we are today with current relationships. we need to make sure economic relationships include a pathway to strategic relationships. you look at an agreement like the quad and they're so much potential in the quad especially within jihad. we have to be able to do things with india to pull him away from russia. .. related to that country in with

utilities and facilities employed for problems recite like an opportunity that the main as well for will read run into the same obstacles? scalability and fewer number going and from the yard. periodic events especially naval forces overseas look a lot

desires to come back and then there's the order and partnered countries especially if the conflict breaks out, we need that you will be able to take it all the way back to pearl harbor or west coast so we do need that ability but he needs to be focused on short-term repairs making sure have surge capacity when necessary but we cannot do it in a way sustainability u.s. repair yards, we need them and they struggled because it's not loaded into the guards in the last thing is have higher skilled technicians which the biggest challenge they have and say scale of agree have three

years worth of work and they have to lay off people. it's going to be key to staying ability for all and make sure they are available and capable of having quick maintenance done to sustain readiness. >> it's come up on all of the panels, what can congress do to make a significant improvement over the next two years? over many years, this has been a problem. >> especially after covid been dealing with readiness but how we sure we have the workforce

and the challenges of attracting people into the industry. thirty or 40 years of experience aging out of the workforce retiring. they don't have the same level of experience. you reading the shipyard culture, we build the best ships in the world and try to continue that culture, a massive number of new people coming in. it's very different especially being able to compete so quality of life becomes a big issue in salaries so the efforts were undertaking.

that we resource that? were not spending additional money is yards can get into hiking benefits make sure repeating is. there are the same workers and skills we need to do some other things to look at how we emphasize career and technical exercise. the bill that would cross through the ways and means committee allows saving counts parents set aside for their children no good to two and four year degrees to use for any postsecondary education including certification skills training and those things will be in a whole new round of resources and also has them

consider other ways to pursue a successful career. we need to do the same thing with pell grants, how do we make sure you open up opportunities for financial resources in the career and technical education but that will be as well as things necessary to compete in a competitive environment to bring skill sets in the military industrial base. those things i think are going to be at the forefront success we need achieve building capability. it says just was it platforms from an aircraft for fighter aircraft and but also what needs to emerge and expendable that are an important part shortly.

the workforce is to manufacture but also a tremendous amount of capability they argue they will be not as important in as we modernize military. >> have been seeing in the importance of scale in are produced and performance trade-off, how can congress work with the department were to recognize the importance taking advantage of opportunity and interacts which can hamper that, a different approach to scale. they resulted in technology quickly and they are doing a

great job sending demand signals in the development program in the distant great work developing technologies and they fade away. in the emerging technologies figure out if they are applicable utah small-scale is designed around an arduous

process. based on the countermeasures. they seek new technology and fast acquisition process where they get the technology in the hands of the operators the method effective method. they are working in phase one and phase get them to phase three across the valley of death.

if the company's scale and they have to awarded contracts. companies like general atomics and other various so we have to be able to do those to be able to get to fail to use emerging technologies and get them produced at the speed of relevance. time is up essence your xi jinping ready by 2027 the threat seriously. they may not code january 1 of 2027 but they want to be ready by the our challenge is, but we do to make sure he does not today but.

>> will ask for more questions and open up audience question might have authorities not using enough, it sounds boring but within that plane that are underused authorities that could be used as the department were quickly. your perspective, what are your thoughts on that congress has given pretty powerful tools to the department of defense. effectively in the hands of the war veteran taking risk figuring out whether they work or not. some of them will work and some will fail pas for those companies may not be at scale but a little bit of help get scale. those are very powerful and we need to make sure they are using

more recent times they are hesitant they want to go through the regular acquisition process which is a long process. those can't rule from i think they have to be the exception you get technology out there quickly. service bridges are doing pretty innovative things, to. they are doing a lot of new things. the key is, how do we get from doing lots of work discovering things to the actual application? we have to do that scale with the focus off how we even in opportunities that provide that option pushback but i still think it's a concept push

forward to get to scale for these. they emphasize how important medications are in transportation. the same concept. how do you make for understand what the technology is? have to change this and there are tools there, we just have to make sure we were about they are

doing pretty incredible things. you get them scale and make sure they become standard procedure, not the exception? right now all of these he going on with the program, there are a lot of programs how to make sure they get to scale it operational but. >> elevating progress. >> services late sheet of paper so that on the worry about the bureaucratic process. if you take the 11 by 17 paper

acquisition into a better job in the chinese are willing to take risks and they pay off in the ways. we have to be willing to progress. so how is it a couple conferences we talk about doing things that scale in the phone

is ringing and he resisted and there is a shortage in work and ships are out in the download affect. one of the concrete things is our adversaries to actually have a clue determine?

>> i think is are all very important questions and a lot of great programs pentagon. in a billion plus dollars in the budget, it's a hard way to get to scale so we need to make sure programs and tools in the old requirement in years of figuring out with the war fighter needs.

here's to get to initial ability. we are at the precipice of the election. other systems.

in 306 firing 4.2 million out of $50 that. and they have to know turn into

that but that's all we have to be able to do and where we are. that is more of a process and it is outcomes in the navy has impacted the same ship repairs through the year we have to make sure link back to the art we haven't done as good of a job as necessary and make sure to model this. we should know when a ship gets to the yard especially based on the history behind these platforms. we should know exactly what

needs to be done and the probability of doing additional work. what is the probability when you open up the tank? what are the outliers and how do we make sure we measure that and have what is necessary to be able to do it and do it quickly and not rely on change order after change order and replace the valve to work right there so great, we don't need to wait months to do that so use more technology and will drop predicting work which is not effectively naturally mitigate

create modernize weapons. >> any other questions? between china, russia, north korea started impurity to work dangerous ways collected they have potential for more coherent alliance? the second is about the solutions of the next administration, what is the strategy for the u.s. to target

potential support? >> yes, i do believe they have a greater capability to destabilize the world then in 1939. i think they are serious in working together at every level hearing technology so we get drones taken out in ukraine and there are chinese systems. you also see the arms fired into ukraine and they are being manufactured. they are being manufactured by iran so they are getting to

every level of cooperation in their efforts. russia realized they don't have the capability and they are trying to their friends and what happens is they learn on the battlefield iran and north korea and china learning of the speed of relevance so as much as we are learning what's happening in the battlefield, our adversaries are learning, to in getting more capability faster than if they test their own weaponry cake

and manufacturing on the face of the earth. an incredible things going on australia, great things and uk, too. there's a reason japan wants to

in south korea wants to be part of the offices and why the philippines would like to become part of it. they see the value of the relationships and the agreements bring down with a face and doing things on the cooperative level. that's the way forward to develop deeper relationships and defense cooperation agreements and scratch the surface for other countries out there. lots of conversations with the ambassador of australia. he was adamant to say you treat canada better than australia and a deeper agreement than with