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his democratic challenger susan altman in a debate to represent northern new jerses seventh congressional strict. the countess discussed immigration, reproductive rights and minimum-wage increases. posted by the new jerseyre glob. >> hello and welcome to new jersey the picnic. i'm laura jones and this is a first and only debate in new jersey's seventh congressional district between the incumbent tom kean, jr. and challenger susan altman. it is president by then. jews globe, on n new jersey and the rebovich institute at the university. sponsors are aarp new jersey and into the become new jersey education association. our panelists are david while state of the new jersey globe, micah rasmussen director of the rebovich institute and joey fox, whichor was correspond for them just to cope up with goat of the rules of the debate prior to time. we established the art of questions and responses which

will take between the candidates. candidates. acquaintances c conducted earlir won by saltman. she's opting for the second opening statement. so tom kean, you are a first. the floor george. >> thank you. it's great to be with you this evening. i ranc for public office and for congress because i want to be of little people. one of the people of zipped up last year was a disabled veteran. he was an individual who is new homelessness and yet gone into surgery at afterne procedure lot oath of these limbs. we were able to engineer homelessness. we found a solution where we found him from housing to yet nursing rotation. so we've also found common ground on policy issues down washington, d.c. i've always reach across the aisle to find that common ground to make new jersey more affordable come to make sure we're energy independent and also to make sure we have the backs of our police of public safety officers. my opponent on the other hand, since 2019 has been a paid

extreme political activist who supports progressive causes and will never stand up to the far left wing of her own party. since 2019 shet has supported every singleng tax increase that is on state and federal level, at support every w spending increase as well. in addition she supported defunding the police, supported a lot of cockles that of jupiter she supported legalization of narcotics. those are extreme positions that are out of step for people in the seventh congressional district and those extreme positions will have extreme consequences if she's elected to the office. thank you for hosting this event tonight. i'm asking tonight for peoplesoft here thank you. >> tom kean, thank you very much. sue altman, , over the opening statement. 90 seconds. turn anticorruption advocate who fought both parties in trenton. i am honored to be considered to represent one of the most

beautiful districts of the entire country might home where i am from new jersey seventh district. i am running because the next three weeks will determine the course of this country for the next three decades. i am running because this moment requires political courage. something sadly my opponent does not have. my opponent has been in politics for 23 years but he has exactly what he is doing when he dodges the press. when he does not hold town halls when he avoids his constituency. because you see tom kean junior has an unsolvable probably values of his voters and that values of his donors are not the same. his donors, national republican party and extremist billionaires represent an insane point of view. they want to ban abortion nationwide. they want to monitor at women's pregnancies so i guess you

cannot run off and get a secret abortion. they want to and gay marriage they want to make sure we are all suffering from a society that is less educated than it should be. those values do not match the values of this district. this is district beliefs and institutions and the rule of law. and personal freedom and women's rights. when i get to congress i will fight to protect contraception, to codify it row, to bring back felt deduction and above all i will be accessible but i will represent this district, not billionaires in extremis in washington. thank you. >> or panel david wilde seen at the end you new jersey globe you are first with your questions. david, to you. >> congressman tom kean also with you. your family ancestors have been on the forefront of speaking up regardless of political risk. they oppose slavery, they backed

the insurgency candidacy of abraham lincoln. they fought for civil rights since the 19th century. your father and your grandfather were proud moderates. you have endorsed donald trump. and you voted for some deeply conservative candidates for speaker like jim jordan and mike johnson. you have not been critical of your own party in congress. why should the voters of new jersey seventh district trust you for another two years? >> i've always been independent voice for the people of this district. for the last two years and since taking office in state legislature. i listen to my constituents and focus on principles, point to them and support the constitution. maggots might party i served against my party and shipping across state lines.

i listened to my constituents and focus on the principles that went to them and supporting the constitution. i served against my party on the shipping across state lines. i've been focusing on making sure we have more affordability in the state and in this country i will always stand up for the principles of making sure the people of educational opportunity, that they have access to affordability to make sure we have a stronger country going forward. >> we will wait for response. >> yes, congressman.

one of the things i'm struggling with is why you would represent this district where you could have been one of the most moderate, one of the most reasonable voices in congress but you voted for jim jordan twice, you endorse donald trump on the day he was convicted and you had mike johnson into new jersey twice to fund raise for you. there is a famous notion of politics that if you follow the money you know where someone's heart is. you seemed like a really nice guy. right now what we need is political courage. we need someone to stand up to trump. someone that will stand for women's rights. there women bleeding out of people's parking lots right now, women whose bodies are in sepsis they cannot access reproductive freedom and care that they need in other states. i am very, very concerned because with you in congress, i am worried if mike johnson has a gavel, we will have a national abortion ban and that will include the women of new jersey.

>> you can have 30 seconds to respond to that. >> certainly. my ex- opponent is supported by these individuals. the head of the working families party. she received her money during that time hundreds of thousands of dollars from people that were headed from the voters siding for extreme points of view. the closest thing to communism and socialism in this country. she stands with people who want to do extreme heart to the fiscal value of this country. >> let me ask you your personal opinion. you spanned several years as an activist. you are a zealous voice for new jersey working families. they have supported funding for these. they have supported ending u.s. military aid to israel.

supported a green new deal. medicare for all. some of their positions are among the most far left in american politics. now, you are running for congress in a more moderate district. some of your views have changed. your positions have changed. is that just to win an election and why should seventh district voters trust you? >> i have broken with the left into very important ways. i support israel. i have stood up against anti-semitism on both the left and right. i support israel's right to defend itself. especially when it is fighting a war with iranian proxies. i have apologized for a tweet, one single tweet i did over four years ago. i have done my homework and i know what a comprehensive vision is for public safety. we need to invest in recruitment treating and community services because it's not fair to ask

police to get whatever they get when answer : put their lives on the line. so, it is not accurate, i have never broken from the left and for most of my time in new jersey, i have fought against corruption of both parties. i have thought for better ballots and voter access. i have fought against the most powerful people in our entire country who happened to be a democrat because i believed him to be corrupt. i have the scars to prove. >> congressman. thank you. let's be clear. 2021. the 82 israel. anti-semitic candidates in ohio on a congressional level. she said we need more people

like that. it was only she changed jobseeking office that she changed her position in that regard. she waited too long to actually stand up. she had not made a statement and what happened there. defund the police, literally. according to the pba, they said putting cops in harm's way. people know that it did. look at things that she has stated they had done. she had put cops in harm's way. she made our communities less say the continuity of an activist priority. >> 30 seconds. >> the national republican party has already tried to promote falsehoods about my position. when the anti-semitism tax first came out at my alma mater i stopped what i was doing. i was on the phone. i toweled roundtables in this district with jewish leaders and it makes me mad that you will

use this against me. it is wrong to tokenized the jewish people. the anti-somatic system has been active and alive and well. it trumps golf course and you said nothing. don't you dare lecture me. >> your questions. >> yes, thank you. i would like to dive into the issues, obviously. starting with the issue of reproductive rights. congressman kane, the first question is for you. we are now at two and a half years out from the dobbs decision that overturned roe v wade. with those two and a half years of hindsight, do you think that that decision was the right one? >> i think it is appropriate to sentence the decision down to the state so people can go to the local leaders and be involved in this regard. i am pro-choice.

a 21 year record of supporting pro-choice positions and i would oppose a national abortion ban. on the state level, i have also promoted measures that would ensure easier access to care on medicaid and other ones. my opponent in this regard has an extreme position. she supports the position that would allow people to get abortions for any reason up until birth, including the eight and nine months. she supports not allowing doctors to be the only one that can conduct this procedure. that is an extreme position. she also supports not allowing parental notification. that is an extreme position. those positions are out of step with those in the congressional district. >> congressman. respectfully. you voted against funding planned parenthood 12 times in the state legislature. you voted against codifying roe

as recently as 2022 when we knew bro would get overturned at the national level. you will not sign on to a bill protecting and enshrining ivf into law. you voted against women in the military leaving their basis. you know you are trying to hold two things in your mind that once because you have a website that you are used to that show pro-life. their women bleeding out in parking lots. they are women whose bodies have full-body infections, sepsis. in the states where abortion has been outlawed and criminalized, doctors, ob/gyn are fleeing in record numbers. at what point is that the federal government's job to make sure women are protected and women's rights are protected? i find it ironic that you think it is an extremist point of view >> i give you 30 seconds to respond to that.

the eighth and ninth month to have an abortion. allowing people other than doctors to conduct their procedure. that which was included in was just referenced to an expansion. a very different thing. i am pro-choice and i would oppose a national abortion ban. >> ms. altman, i will pick up on that. new jersey itself has very strong abortion protections and some democrats like governor murphy said making allows even more encompassing. i want to ask you if there any parts of new jersey law regarding abortions as it stands right now that make you uncomfortable? >> no, there is not. i think new jersey is for very good reason accepting women who

are in emergency situations that come here to seek healthcare. i am not a medical professional. my opponent is not a medical professional. these issues, these very technical personal decisions are issues that should be left between a woman and her doctor. there is a woman in our district whose baby was born without a brain and she needed to get an abortion late in her pregnancy. congressman, it is not the government's business to know the ins and outs of everyone's pregnancy. pregnancy is exceedingly difficult on the body. it is a total body stressor. there are vanishingly few women, and you know this, congressman, who carry babies all the way to the end and then suddenly decide to abort them. it happened in tragic awful situations and it happens when women's lives are in danger. if that is the only exception the why have you not signed onto the bill which would enshrine into law medically necessary abortions? you have not because you are at

double holding of mike johnson the speaker because he fundraisers for you. >> mr. king. >> as my opponent has an extreme position. she supports abortion through birth. that is an extreme position. she also supports doctors, people other than doctors being able to conduct the abortion. i am pro-choice. i also think we should be prioritizing life in the health of the mother. i oppose a national abortion ban my opponent has an extreme position that is out of touch with the voters in this district the piece of legislation now law new jersey allows the birth, excuse me, allows abortion through birth. not having parents know what is happening in their kids lives and also a lot of people other than doctors being able to

conduct. that is an extreme position. >> i want to talk about another topic that is adjacent to this end is coming to the spotlight this year which is in vitro fertilization. congressman, you have said that you strongly support the right to ivf. a lot of your fellow republicans have said that they agree with you on that issue, including donald trump. if that is true, why has congress not done anything to protect ivf and what in your second term would be different? what would you do to make that happen? >> thank you. thank you for that question. i support ivf. all the way back in 2001. i voted to make sure we had new jersey state insurance coverage. and the importance of that procedure. since taking office i've continued without support. i have supported and sponsored four different bills. not only making sure these

bipartisan bills would make sure that they recovered it from the federal level but also made sure that we had, that it is more affordable. we had tax credits and things like that to make sure the procedure is more affordable for families. my opponent would never reach across the aisle and do that. it is just not who she is. everything she would do would be on the far extreme of her own party versus reaching across the aisle important health and family building legislative bills like this. >> i just want to press you on the first part of the question which is why has this not already happened if you have these bills, if all the republicans say they supported what would be the change that would finally make this happen? >> we were able to get it done in new jersey. i will do everything in my power to make sure we get it crossed

at the federal level. >> we will go to you for your response now. >> first of all, i definitely worked across the aisle. you don't fight this just dealing with corrupt self jersey democrats. you fight across the aisle in you work across the aisle and that is what i did as an advocate. please do not mischaracterize. on the issue of ivf right across the delaware river representative susan wilde who represents just across the river from up here, she has a bill that would enshrine the right to ivf for all families into law. i know she has some bipartisan sponsors on that bill. yet, congressman, you have not signed onto that bill. i forgot to mention in the last question, you have been an advocate found to be performing abortions or providing a legal reproductive care. that is pretty scary. what we will see is a brain drain from those states, from doctors who otherwise want to help women in those states, but

are afraid of being prosecuted for their medical profession. congressman, i do not understand why you have not signed onto the ivf bill because all the rest of it does not matter if it is not enshrined into law. >> mr. kane, 30 seconds. the most important thing that we can do is to ensure the safety of this, my opponent has never reached across the aisle. she has never support republicans to find common ground solutions. it is not what she has done in her entire career since being an activist for group that bernie sanders once said the closest thing to socialism in this country. >> executive director for new jersey politics, you are next with your questions. >> in your opinion,

approximately how much money was an average middle-class family earn annually to afford to live comfortably in the seventh district and how is that change since covid? >> that is a fantastic question. the medium income is $125,000. this is one of the more affluent districts in the entire country. one of the most educated in the entire country and yet i hear over and over again from people in this district how hard it is to make ends meet. they have two parents working full time and they just barely afforded a house and a wonderful school district here in the seventh and then donald trump came along and got rid of the salt production and they cannot find a way to make ends meet. so i can only imagine how difficult it is for people all over the state and all over this country that make far less money than people in the seventh district. prices are too hi, wages are too low and those things have not kept pace since the pandemic.

i believe that it is due to a lack of competition and corporate greed, but also because prices have just gotten too high and wages are too low. in this district i will fight to bring back the cell production which is a tax to the blue states. >> okay. >> we need to restore this production. in this state and across the country as the out-of-control spending that has caused this inflation that part of partisan and congress knew what happened. my opponent supported her entire career. she understood what mass government spending would do to people in this district. taking away deduction in 2007. before congress earlier this year i was the only member of congress going against did not

include this restoration. it is important we do that but we also often find the common ground to get that done. my opponent in professional activist just a couple of years ago supported, did not support this production. giving way to the rich. this district needs this production restored working as a cochair of the bipartisan, working with the regional and bipartisan basis. >> would you like 30 seconds to respond to that? >> there bills in congress at the new york republicans have sponsored. i don't know if there are any that you have sponsored to restore. your characterization is so simplistic he had it is easy for you to say when you are part of this that the government should not have interfered at the end of covid. i am glad that they did. part of the reason prices are so high is because we are living through an unprecedented era of corporate consolidation. as a former basketball player i am a competitor.

it requires competition. looking out for corporate. congressman king. this in congress. helping families afford to live comfortably in the seventh district. >> the tax package renegotiate next year. getting this production restored i got there we will make sure it is included. also need to make energy dependent once again. we will need to make sure we have more manufacturing as well. my opponent, you know, is an extreme activist.

she has supported every single spending bill since 2019 that was on the state level or on the federal level. she opposed the salt restoration as a professional paid activist. she supports every single spending program that will make the state less affordable, less competitive on the world stage. she has harmful policies because she supports increasing spending , increasing taxes and increasing regulations which are the things that are hampering and hurting small businesses. hurting families. everything has gotten more expensive. >> congressman, just barely old enough to remember a time when the republican party was a party of small business. was the party of economic competition. let's look at our farming sector the last remaining farms are beautiful, small, family-run farms. you can go apple picking at this time of year. it is wonderful.

everyone should go. the type of farms at the republican support, 75% is produced by four companies and 85% of our beef by three companies. all of the tax incentives that go out to iowa for corn, that is the type of agribusiness that the republican party supports. what that means is that small farmers, small businesses, the kind of places that give our district character are squished out of the market and when i'm in congress i will fight like heck to protect those small farms and those small businesses corporate consolidation that republicans have been all about in the last 20 years. >> a solar farm in the township. energy for families in the seventh district? >> i support all of the above energy. we need to make sure, we are 42%