at tsa or other governmental locations, that's where that social security fairness act comes into play as they are unfairly burdened and some of their rightfully earned pension has been taken away and taxed as a result of their enrollment and social security when they retire . chris: ok, brandon, final thoughts. let's move on. i want to talk about poverty. brandon syracuse has struggled , for years with some of the highest child poverty in the nation and some of the country's worst overall poverty. in your opinion why hasn't , government been able to solve the problem and what's your single best idea to help solve it? >> poverty is a persistent problem and often a generational problem and we do have acute poverty here in, you know, suri

cruise and in the 15th ward -- syracuse, and in the 15th ward. one of the first things that i did was to be invited to go view and visit the syracuse housing authority and to be able to to walk around and get to know those neighbors and visited several times since being elected. and have championed a number of projects from for federal spending to help revitalize those areas, to get mixed income and to get better transportation into that area to provide more opportunity. the challenges of poverty i think go a lot of times with education. i am a champion of school choice and vouchers, particularly in our poor neighborhoods because they care about their children just as much as anywhere in the suburbs and having the choice of education to get them the very best and to give them that

mobility i think is the best, it's one of the best paths to opportunity that we can have . chris: john? >> first of all what happened in , the city of syracuse particularly as my opponent , mentioned in the 15th ward with a cutting through of i 81 and disrupting a thriving african-american neighborhood , we're still feeling the impact of today so we have to be intentional. it is about education and what we have done is make sure we are fully funding our schools so our kids can compete with anyone, and that is universal pre-k to make sure our kids are in school getting the learning they need at an early age. our city schools, you do not hear this all the time but if you go visit each of the five city school high schools in the syracuse city school district they have unique technology programs that are leading through tremendous careers and they are adapting to meet the needs of the central new york technology economy, including what will be emerging with

micron, also we have to support nontraditional pathways. i've been proud to almost double the funding for an apprenticeship program with the state, manufacturers alliance of central new york, where individuals can earn as they learn and take on a new career . we have to make sure that we continue to move individuals towards the trades, and we've done that and supported it, our local trade unions have filled apprenticeship programs. this stigma has been changed. we are transforming lives with opportunities here. chris: let's talk about threats to our democracy. donald trump has refused to accept the results of the election he lost four years ago and he's given indications that he will not accept the results if he loses again next month. his claims have been litigated in multiple courts across

multiple jurisdictions which found no evidence of the widespread voter fraud that he claims. john, you have cited this as a concern. what would you do as a junior member of congress, what would you do in the event of another disruption in the peaceful transfer of power? >> that is why i use the word i did to describe the former president as dangerous. i've been in close elections actually i've never won or lost on election night, every one of my elections has gone to a hand recount or an absentee count and i wish every one could go into those boards of elections and watch that hand recount process because it would embolden their faith in democracy. our elections are run well, they are professional, certified, valid. and perpetuating the false narrative that they are not is dangerous and our courts have upheld that they are working . threatening the secretary of state in georgia, assembling a fake slate of electoral college

electors, is beyond belief that this is happening. so the first thing i would do in congress is put my name on the john lewis voting rights act to protect our democracy in many ways, but there are other things we need to do as well of course and one thing we cannot do as elected officials, as leaders, is perpetuate the false lie. you do not hear her the midterm elections, in the primaries, you never hear about widespread voter fraud. you only hear about it when donald trump is on the ballot. chris: brandon, you agree with the former president on a number of policy issues. immigration, the economy. but does his position and his willingness to undermine things like our elections give you pause? >> you know i have never , questioned that joe biden is

the duly elected president so . so i've never made any of those kinds of statements or supported any of those kinds of claims you know political violence in our system is completely unacceptable and i say that not only as a citizen but as a military veteran, it is no way to support our constitution as i have sworn to do on two separate occasions. in fact just a few months ago on , july 24th in our nation's capital, pro-hamas protesters were violently attacking police just a few blocks away from our capitol building. they tore down the american flags that were flying outside of union station in washington dc right at the heart of our democracy and they burn the american flag after assaulting police officers. that evening i drove by there on my way back to the house floor for a late night series of votes and i saw that the american flags had not been restored and i recruited eight other members of congress, including the speaker of the house, to get american flags from our office

and to go back and to raise the american flag where it it belongs. so my response is to stand up to protesters, to stand up to the people that want to violently tear down our system, and i just find it unacceptable and i've taken action and make sure that we do that. chris: 32nd follow-up. what should the house do if donald trump pardons the january sixth at rioters? >> the president has the right to pardon so i don't know what to say about that legally. >> elected members of congress, republican and democrat, should denounce it as it was the greatest assault on our democracy since the civil war. chris: one final question. brandon, where do you think your opponent or his supporters have most misrepresented your position on an issue?

>> i think you've seen over $2 million of false advertising. very proud that my wife has stood up to support and defend me on the issue of abortion and it is very shameful that they are using it in this fearful way to misrepresent the end everything i have said, and not your own newspaper fact checked this two years ago and again recently, as has the auburn citizen, showing all of these advertisements are false. chris: john? >> i have been misrepresented on my support for law enforcement. i stand strongly with them. again tonight it was brought up about bail reform. what my opponent knows but does not mention is that those laws were passed prior to me being an office. again, when it comes to bail

reform, we are talking about pretrial detention and there was great consensus before it that it needed reform. the errors were that there were gaps in the laws that needed to be addressed. we need safe communities and justice in our system. i have always stood strongly with law enforcement and they have supported me. i have a great relationship with leaders in law enforcement and the rank and file. we must have safe communities and it just tears us apart when we talk to someone who is pro law enforcement and has supported and not only supported but taken action to make sure that we address any gaps in the law that does not allow law enforcement to have every tool to keep our community safe so that is a false narrative that has been tested in polls and been used against me, but the facts are that those laws were passed before before i was in

office, i've only strengthened them and created the syracuse regional airport authority and have the support of law enforcement in every single one of my elections. chris: that brings us to the end of the question and answer portion. 90 seconds for closing statements. brandon. >> thank you for joining and tuning in. i know you care about democracy and our region is much as i do which is why i stood up to run for congress even even though i didn't know a single soul in politics just a little over two years ago. tonight you've heard conflicting visions on what america looks like. there is what are we going to do about the border, about inflation, and about crime. my opponent supports giving free health care to illegal immigrants. i support shutting down the border. we need to take strong action to resume remain in mexico.

he's tried to dance around not being responsible for bail >> he has not crossed the aisle wants to undo harm. i stood up at every opportunity. we need less government and i'm proud to have braden $3 trillion since we came into congress. i am honored to serve. give me two more years and vote recognizing the confidence i bring. >> john?

>> central new york in the mohawk valley is one of the most beautiful places. we are supportive, we are positive. i taught almost 30 years and i left a job because 16-year-olds -- watched the election. actions and words that used to be disqualifying no longer are. it is outrageous to me. we know our children in grandchildren better. that's why i left a job that i love. making for more equitable and

just country, opportunity for everyone. we must take action. that is where government can come in. to make sure people have accessibility and affordability. the number one thing we must do is preserve democracy and live out the true american dream that we have to promise our kids. >> that is all the time we have today. i would like to thank them for joining us and the new house school for hosting us. thanks to the students and the staff. both are representing our district in the congress.

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the next u.s. president. you're watching live coverage on c-span. >> i'm fred kemp, today we are delighted to welcome senator mark warner to discuss the array of global risk and opportunities facing whomever is elected you're vice president in november. i'm sorry i can't be there in person. i'm in istanbul but hope to see you upon my return. this event is part of the atlantic council's bipartisan election year event series titled elections 2024. america's role in the world.

>> through this series we examine the challenging local context for 2023 -- 24 u.s. elections. and the state of wars in the middle east and europe, the contests for commanding heights of technological change and so much more. writing recently in the financial times the cia director and the uk's mi six director set the stage this way. there is no question that the international world order the balanced system does lead to relative peace and stability and delivered rising living standards and opportunities and prosperity is under threat in a way we have not seen since the cold war. we were delighted to host senator chris murphy of connecticut earlier this fall and we invite you to stay tuned for future events including one on october 30 with congressman michael turner, chairman of the house select committee on intelligence.

since 1961 the lintel council nonpartisan values driven commission has been to shape the vole -- the commercial -- the future through construction and collaborative u.s. leadership. in the aftermath of the second world war the united states has upheld that order throughout the cold war and to the present day working alongside allies and partners to create a more secure and prosperous future for all. as the american feet -- people consider who to elect as the next u.s. president and who to elect to congress, among other factors they must discuss who can best manage global challenges that are historic in nature. we are delighted to be joined today by senator warner. we are grateful for his longtime engagement with the atlantic council including in his role as cochair of the bio partisan commission on the geopolitical impacts of new technologies and data. before we turn to the

conversation senator warner i'm delighted to invite the atlantic council board director and nana -- managing director at global head of commodity strategy. to introduce the senator and offer these welcoming remarks. thank you again for joining us. over to you. >> thank you so much fred for those kind words. rbc capital markets is delighted to support this election series, events like this one are essential for engaging democratic citizens and shedding light on the implications of potential presidential administrations. they look forward to a vibrant conversation here today. senator mark warner joins share his thoughts on the global risks and opportunities and ex-president must confront and how potential harris administration may impact u.s. foreign policy. senator warner has served in the united states senate for over 15

years and serves as chairman of the senate select committee on intelligence where he is worked across the aisle to serve virginians and the including by crafting and negotiating key legislation on infrastructure, cybersecurity and national security. senator warner believes strongly in democracy and election integrity and has underlined that both democrats and republicans must come together to respond to election security threats especially the pervasive efforts by russia, china and iran. stating a whole of society effort is needed to ensure our democratic processes -- we very much look forward to sharing your thoughts on how the next u.s. president should respond to emerging transform the technologies and great power competition. we are also very honored to have my very dear friend brian

sullivan monitoring the conversation -- moderating the conversation. he previously hosted as anchor of cnbc's last call worldwide exchange and power lunch and has been nominated. before i turn it over to you, a couple of housekeeping points. this event is public and on the record. towards the end of the moderated conversation we will take some questions from the audience. for those joining us virtually and in person, please submit your questions displayed on the screen now and do not forget to include your name and affiliation. thank you for joining us. over to you. brian: i must thank you for mentioning me because fred left me out. [laughter] it was like senator thank you. it's an honor to be here. fantastic person, thank you so

much. let's talk right in. president biden was supposed to be i believe in angola but he did not rightly so because hurricane milton and disaster relief. what's so fascinating, vice president biden going to angola. but what would be the urgency of that trip. if you know what angola has from a critical mineral perspective that all the advanced weapon systems we are going to do build the magnets that control rays are -- radar, all the things you know about that i don't know about senator. but this i feel like from an energy security perspective, looking at china's almost ironclad grasp and hold on all of these elements that we forgot about from high school, is that the next battleground.

sen. warner: first of all thank you and thank you for those comments. but it's great to be back. i wanted to make two comments upfront. first we will talk about all the challenges, but i just came back from two days touring southwest virginia where we were hard-hit by helene. not as bad as north carolina or other states free and what i came away with as we think about florida recovery, the incredible amount of folks, neighbors helping neighbors in the aftermath of this horrible storm. an incredible generosity the american people. it starts with committees helping, churches helping.

but there is in norma's resilience and it's one of the reasons it drives me crazy some of the disinformation being spread in the aftermath of the storms but a lot of good in this country that needs to be celebrated. at the top, i will do this in a non-senatorial way. i want to hit five spots that i think frankly even biden could see some progress on. that aren't getting the kind of attention that i think would warrant. one, and i'll move from north to south and then west. the circumstances in venezuela ought to be receiving more intention -- more attention. they voted in record numbers, it was an overwhelming defeat for maduro. we have not been able to rally states in the region and

prospects for that country i think are very dim at this point and when maduro was sworn in again if we don't make some changes we could see another mass of venezuelans leaving which would put an additional strain on the border. it goes to what you mentioned about china in terms of energy is the increasing role that australia and oceania will play. this dozens of island nations in the region, many of which we don't have -- yet. but each of these nation-states has coverage in terms of the amount of ocean they control, that are staggering and for a little bit of attention we can go a long way. brian: you've got three more to get to. you talk about a myanmar. sen. warner: on talking about

papa new guinea, the solomon islands. i'm talking about nation-states that most americans frankly couldn't identify couple years back. brian: is it because of the waterway? >> it's more the fact that small nation-state they have based upon what they claim is there ocean mineral rights. an area mass that may be larger than alaska and texas combined. undersea and we have ignored these nations. we are starting to put a little bit of time bringing them frankly broadband, partnering with our tech companies. a huge opportunity. in china the normal stuff we will talk about but i think in energy china is making huge gains on the big advocate for reintroduction of advanced nuclear.

there will be a competition with china that we are engaged in. we need to move quicker. with that is what china has been doing with life-sciences and bio. as nobly heard of huawei may be eight years ago groups going forward is beijing genomics institute. huge challenges there. in the middle east we have wars going on there's also geopolitical move that i think could be one of the most transformative of the next 25 years and the saudi's, the, roddy's, the other gulf states based upon their own decisions transform their economies to more technology-based and race for data centers and ai, they i believe will make the decision to stop playing off against china and russia and go with us because they want our technology. how we navigate that, the

microsoft deal is the tip of the spear on that is something that needs more attention. a place we are spending a lot of money and time is the crisis in sudan. more people dying in sudan then gaza, lebanon and ukraine combined and if america could show we actually care about africans killing africans. you don't have to pick a moral choice, a little bit of effort here and does come back to our angola question. show they care about africa which based on 2040 almost half the rare earth minerals, population increase. i've got a 25 minute version of that but that was my three minute version up talk. -- up top. i think this competition with china on energy is one of the next realms of development. it's not just extraction of

minerals it's the process where china has really dominated in the process of rare earth minerals. we can go head-to-head on extraction. we are getting better with our allies. we also have to do the process. brian: it was on most a tv segment. i think you blamed the media three times in that brief statement. sen. warner: not yet. brian: i want to work invert it. i was trying to explain what was going on to my 10-year-old son and how it doesn't get any attention. there's limited capacity i think -- sometimes i think there's limited capacity for human suffering from my end of the camera which is hard. it just physically takes a toll. anybody here from california or las vegas? you may have driven from las vegas to l.a. or the other way. next time you do it when you cross to california leaving las

vegas, you are going to l.a.. the first or second exit you will see a sign that says baker and then there is this weird looking line up on the hill. it's probably most important mine in the united states. they produce neodymium. that goes into every phone, every laser sight on these drones, advanced weapons. until recently senator that mine , which came 36 hours away from closing permanently would ship it starts to china from the desert of california by truck to a ship to the center of china to be washed and then they would ship it back to i think oregon to be processed. i think it shows where the supply chains are really screwed up. how do we fix this? sen. warner: