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>> good morning. it it is thursday, january 9th. today the country bids farewell to former president jimmy carter at a funeral service held at washington national cathedral, it is scheduled to begin at 10:00 eastern and we will have full coverage of the ceremony here on the c-span network. this morning we want to give you a final chance to reflect on the life, the presidency, and the post-presidency of jimmy carter. what do you think his legacy is? what memories do you have? what are your opinions about his successes and/or failures which our lines are regional, eastern and central time zones 202-748-8,000, mountain or pacific, 202-748-eight thousand one. you can send us a text to 202-748-8,003, include your first name and your city, state, and post your comments on the social media,

facebook.com/c-span, x@c-spanwj. we will start taking calls shortly and as you call in to discuss your reflections on jimmy carter, he was interviewed on c-span in 1995 about a book called always a reckoning and other poems and references his passing and eventual funeral. >> you have probably something in this, in the book, i will get this started, i'm talking about it, a poem about the end of your life and a bunch of professors. what is the point? >> we were trying to analyze

the impact with emory university when i was dead and we got a group of scholars at emory to analyze how the university would treat me after i was no longer there and they couldn't bring themselves to use any sort of frank language about my being dead, so they finally derive the euphemism the my level of participation would be reduced. >> did you hear them talking about this? >> in a written report to the president of the university and they couldn't bring themselves to say when he passes away, when he's gone or anything like that. >> i, out now dead, have reduced my level of participation. >> that was the euphemism they used instead of when he is dead they said when his level of

participation is reduced so just to kid them i wrote the first version of this poem and sent it as a funny thing and decided it is an interesting concept. >> this sketch by your granddaughter, you leave standing by your gravesite. >> with part of a funeral ceremony, there are a lot of very nice things you can pass on, heavenly reward or going to meet his maker or no longer with us are having passed away but these professors couldn't bring themselves to say i was going to pass away or go to meet my heavenly reward or meet my maker, they said my level of participation would be reduced. >> which you being a former president do you have to think about your eventual departure more than most people would? >> my wife and my staff because they worked a complete funeral

ceremony planned in advance, so there are some things you have to decide before it president's demise, the level of participation is reduced so that you can handle that. a lot of plans have to be made. >> host: is that hard to do? >> guest: i have a sense of participating in it, letting my wife develop it and there's a professional staff associated i think with the marine corps who know the history of presidential funerals and processions and the display of the body and how much is done in the capital building and how much is done in other places. >> host: is your family buried there? >> roslyn's first ancestor was

born in 1787. since that almost all of us have been born and died in planes. >> host: that was former president jimmy carter talking about his eventual death and funeral which of course is happening today, scheduled to start at 10:00 am eastern time, and it will be at the national washington national cathedral. we will have live coverage on the c-span network so definitely stay with us for that. we are taking your calls on the life and legacy of jimmy carter, this is your chance to weigh in on that. he mentioned his wife roslyn being involved in the planning of the funeral. she died in november 2023, they were married for 77 years. carrie in hagerstown, maryland. >> caller: mister carter, god

bless his soul, he is no longer ill, he's with jesus in heaven, god bless him. as post president he was magnificent, did a lot of good things, building homes, helping people. as president he left a lot to be desired with me. i remember the gas lines, 444 days us citizens were held hostage and humiliated. president not so much, post president great man. god bless him and god bless you and your family, thank you. >> host: cj in minneapolis, good morning. >> caller: good morning and good morning america and thank you for allowing me to weigh in on this historical moment. jimmy carter was my commander-in-chief when i joined the navy in 1976. i was 18 years of age. i had just finished high school that same year. i became that same year, the

bicentennial year which i could count how old america is by his birthday which is 49 this year. out of the ships i was on i was only on this one ship but anyway the ship i was on was the uss inchon and jimmy carter picked my ship to be on for us to escort him to south america and to africa for three months right before the hostages had occurred. i think he was the commander of that ship during the vietnam war. >> you voted for him and 76, did you vote for him again in 1980? >> yes, of course. i voted for him again and 80 and i was very disappointed that he lost that race but his mother came on tv and said that

she was glad that he didn't go back to washington because of the way he was treated. that made me feel a little bit better but i was disappointed. >> host: john in north palm beach, florida, good morning. >> caller: good morning. i want to make one comment about this wonderful man. as a student of the scriptures he remembered the teaching of jesus. when he was asked what is the greatest commandment, jesus said you should love the lord your god with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind, and your neighbor as your self. jimmy carter understood that as one commandment that we don't ask who is our neighbor, we should always ask to whom can i be a neighbor. in other words, if you say you love god you must love your

neighbor and if you don't love your neighbor, you don't love god. that is a fundamental insight that jimmy understood from the scripture and i believe that explains his unique position as the president of the united states, godly, moral, righteous man. thank you, jimmy carter, for teaching us. >> host: clayton and philadelphia. >> caller: good morning. would like to share the appreciation for president carter who was mentored by hyman rickover, very interesting antidote on how jimmy carter did not think admiral rickover appreciated his interview. admiral rickover conversely

appreciated the fact that jimmy carter was so truthful and honest about his placement in his class at the naval academy. would also add that president carter, like president jefferson and president washington and president truman were all farmers, part of the agrarian society. thank you. >> host: here is an a in new york. annalee in pen field, new york. are you there? >> caller: yes, good morning. i wanted to make a note of the fact that in 1985, i was on vacation in denmark in copenhagen with two of my

coworkers and i spotted president carter and his wife just walking down the street, it was a rainy day, he had an umbrella over her head and there were two secret service men with them and i got so excited to see the president, former president of the united states of all places in denmark. i never got to see him in this country but i was so thrilled and i became so excited and the secret service men were being very cautious of course and i managed to take their picture. i do regret that i didn't approach him and shake her hand and his but it was a memory that i will always remember and jimmy carter is a wonderful man and human being and i might add

i am 77 years old and that is how long they were married. it was such an honor to see both of them and i thank you for this call. i appreciate your coverage on c-span. thank you. >> host: joseph in reading, pennsylvania. >> caller: yes, ma'am. >> host: go ahead. >> caller: he was a man of faith, a man of service, served the country, incredible, what he accomplished on the nuclear submarine has led us incredibly here through decades. he may not be remembered well as a president but we need to look at his life as a whole and this man stands as a model for children today and young adults. we live in such a vile

political landscape, the integrity is that he stood for as a model for generations to come. god bless president carter and thank you, c-span, for your ongoing service to our community and great country, thank you. >> host: former president jimmy carter was on our c-span program "after words" in 2010. he was talking about his book white house diary. here's a clip where he talks about the iranian hostage crisis. >> with the iranian hostage crisis, they eventually all came home, do you ever hear from any of them? >> quite often. when i go on a book tour usually one or 2 of the hostages on the book tour will send word ahead of time and meet me behind the scenes and i give them a free book and shake hands and have photographs made and i'm proud of the fact that they are doing quite well. this is not as much as it used to be right after i left office

but a good many of them would drive to planes and let me know in advance that they were going to spend a few minutes with me and frankly for the fact that they did come home safe and free. so i've had a good relationship with all of them. >> iran was so much part of your administration and the white house diaries, your book, you talk about things, there were two white houses, the carter white house and dealing with the hostage crisis white house. in retrospect is there something you would have done different throughout that course? i know you said an extra helicopter on the rescue mission but can you look at that situation and wish you would have done something differently? >> not really. if i had known completely what was happening i might have done something different but i don't think so under the circumstances because i was the

last holdout on the top management team in letting the shah come to new york for treatment of his terminal cancer and henry kissinger and cyrus vance and all my advisors were saying let him come. it's a humanitarian thing to do so i contacted the president and prime minister of iran and told them i was contemplating letting the shah come to new york for treatment and i wanted assurance from them that they would protect americans over there, there were 8000 americans in iran working in different positions including members of the embassy staff. they sent me word they would guarantee nothing would happen to americans if the shah came to new york.

a political statement when he was in america and the shah did give me that assurance and then to the surprise of me and i think to the surprise of the president and prime minister of iran, the militants took hostages and when the ayatollah after three days supported the capture and holding of the hostages, then the president and prime minister resigned in protest but that was just the beginning of a long ordeal. so i don't really believe i would've done anything different, the main advice i got was to attack iran, to bomb iran and so forth but i was convinced then and still am convinced that had i done so i

would have killed 10,000 innocent iranians and they would immediately have executed our hostages. i'm glad i held out on that. >> that was from 2010. we have plenty more in the c-span archives if you would like to take a look at interviews with jimmy carter, this is bill in traverse city, michigan. hi, bill. >> good morning, good morning. lots of good memories about jimmy carter. i got to spend 1976 in washington dc and there was this tremendous party on the lawn there, people coming from all over, every week a different region, they had the food go the music, the culture, dancing, it was just wonderful and as soon the president changed that ended. it took the solar arrays off of the white house, the other thing i remember about that, i

was in virginia at the time, swedish sailor who was there on a tanker waiting to unload oil and that was during the oil embargo and they were not being allowed to unload so jimmy carter was the victim of a couple plots. the oil embargo and ronald reagan's october surprise with the hostages, totally a manipulation so thank you for letting me share my memories, he was a great man. >> host: karen in mesa, arizona. >> caller: i wanted to share a memory of president jimmy carter. it was one of the few prayers god ever entered in my life in the affirmative. when i was a young girl at our elementary school, heather hill elementary school in illinois,

a girl brought her invitation to the president's ball, her father was literally invited to jimmy carter's inaugural ball and me and another girl were so in our of that, we could not believe that and we were just, i was jealous of her that her dad was invited our dads were not invited so i remember praying that night, is there anyway i could ever ever ever see jimmy carter in the white house and sure enough three years later we went on a tour at the white house and they announced over the intercom, please stands to the side, jimmy carter is going to be approaching in the limousine and going to be exiting and sure enough jimmy carter came, he exited the limousine, walked to the white house and he and i locked eyes and i could not believe that, three years later i got to see the president in

person so that was something wonderful, i couldn't believe, my dad was standing next to me so in a way god had answered the prayer 3 years later. >> host: how old were you? >> when i prayed the prayer i was 10 and when it was answer i was 13. lien on where you living at the time? >> caller: we were visiting that summer in washington dc. >> host: thanks for sharing that with us. richard in las vegas. hi, richard. >> caller: good morning, how are you. i want to do a synopsis because i was very young, i was a young kid probably 10 years old, my mom, i wasn't at that time in my life wasn't really care less about politics but my mom had a little disagreement with jimmy carter but as i grew older and

got to see him after the presidency and look back at the politics, people grade him, was he the best or was he the worst president, i am a christian and a man of faith, this is more on affirming that he was a good christian and i know that he was the 39th president of the united states and politics are politics and everybody is different, but i know he is in a better place. is in heaven with his wife, with all the saints and i am happy for his family. i know they are grieving because they lost their father, they lost a patriarch, a man

who was elevated to one of the highest offices in the land, good or bad, we are sitting here today to reflect. there's a lot of people who have called in and i listen to the stories that are pretty amazing and i wanted to say for america, for us to come back, to be thankful and to acknowledge a man who loved god first, loved his country and did the best he could in the office. this is kind of a sad day because the traditions, the sensitivity of putting god first, serving people has diminished in this country and it breaks my heart about that.

he was, jimmy carter was a godly man and that is what i will always remember. >> host: this is bob in massachusetts. >> caller: i believe the late president carter and the late mrs. carter were associated with habitat for humanity from about 1984 on, voting a week a year to building houses. i recall that in 1992 hurricane andrew hit southern florida and it was devastating. of the houses that stood up the best in the storm are those built by habitat for humanity. that is a lasting legacy from the late president who i voted for in 1976 but did not vote for in 19, 1980. i voted for john anderson that

year because i was disturbed by -- >> host: we lost you. >> he basically refused to come out. i was supporting senator kennedy. i was living in new jersey at the time. i initially started by supporting fred harris. i recall wanting to send a check to fred harris and ended up talking to his daughter at senator harris's home in suburban maryland i think it was and sending a check, and the first request for funds i received was from the sky, jimmy carter, who's jimmy? again. i didn't send him money. i did support him in the election but i ended up supporting john anderson in 1980. >> host: all right, you mentioned habitat for humanity, former president carter's organization to build homes, this is habitat.org if you're

interested in taking a look at that website. man well in houston, texas. good morning. >> caller: thank you, looking lovely as always. in my opinion jimmy carter was a great president. some people said he's not great but you got to keep in mind that when he came into the presidency the united states and just left the vietnam war and the country was coming up having to pay the debt of the war and other things, the oil embargo, inflation. those things hurt his presidency but he did a lot of great things, the peace accord, the camp david peace accord. to this day the pieces been cut. imagine if that hadn't happened, could have been worse in the middle east.

also the programs like epa, the board of education, his humanity, just a great president, his morals. i could go on and on. there were things that happened in the country that were out of his control and one thing that hurt, that iranian hostages, how they undermined him by saying keep the hostages so reagan comes in office and to me that was undermining the president of the united states. rest in peace jimmy carter and thank you for allowing me to speak my thoughts, thank you so much. >> host: information on the camp david accords from the office of historian, history.gov if you would like to read more details about it, the camp david accords signed by president jimmy carter, egyptian president and washer.

it was in september of97 established a framework for historic peace treaty concluded betwn rael and egypt in march 1979. president carter and the us government played leading roles in creating the opportunity for this agreement to cufrom the start of his administration carter and the secretary of ate cyrus vance pursued intensive negotiations with ar and israeli leaders hoping reconvene the geneva conference whi had been established in december of 1973. let's talk to jerome next. good morning. >> it is arroyo grande. thank you for the opportunity to speak. i voted for jimmy carter, probably one of the older persons calling, i'm 81 and change and i don't follow

politics that critically but here's a man who could walk with mandela, martin luther king, abraham lincoln, not necessarily walk behind any of them but equally walk with them. he's a very is a very, he lived an incredible life, as i'm learning, as i'm listening to him being interviewed and listening to the people calling. i only hope that america which i've lived in my entire life and prospered will think realistically about the next election, stop electing people who are far to either direction. the vast majority of people in this country are independent and when this country gets a majority of independent

congressional, senatorial and representative individuals that are true independent and not swayed by their political ambitions, then this country will move forward. i thank you very much for my privilege to speak on this channel. regarding something else one of the prior collars mentioned, i forgot exactly what i was going to say but have a good day. >> sandy and alantown, pennsylvania. hi, sandy. >> i graduated from college in 1969, the vietnam war was going on and i got involved in counseling and not only myself but others sent quite a few young men up to canada because they did not believe in the war in vietnam. it was impossible to get a feel. should when jimmy carter became president, he passed some kind of law and allow these young

men to come back home and they did and they were able to be with their families again and that is all i want to say. he was a good man. >> this is harry, norcross, georgia, good morning. >> good morning. i just wanted to tell a little story about having met jimmy carter when i was at the university of mexico in 1975. he came and spoke to us to the student body. of course we had been a couple years before, national guard come and broke up what you call a demonstration against richard nixon that became pretty troubling for the students but anyway, jimmy carter stayed,

talked to us all, gave us a speech and stayed around for hours talking to students and i got to ask him a few questions. >> host: you remember what you asked him? >> mostly i was asking about the vietnam war and all that stuff and what was going on down there. but anyway, i had been majoring in the saxophone performance. i moved to los angeles and i met a girl in los angeles who was from georgia, conyers, georgia and she decided to move back to georgia, this was 1978 and six months later i followed her there and we got married so i was living in georgia and jimmy stayed and we had a

daughter in 1979 and drove up through washington dc and visited the white house, just not inside but went around the fence. but he was a real nice guy. he wanted -- he was interested in hearing what we had to say. >> host: harry and sandy mentioned the vietnam war. this is what npr is talking about, seeking to heal the country, jimmy carter hardened men who evaded the vietnam war draft, it says when president jimmy carter was inaugurated in 1977, that's a picture of him if you can see it during his inauguration on january 20, 1977, he wasted little time fulfilling one of his most controversial campaign promises, pardoning those who

evaded the vietnam war draft. carter issued proclamation 4483 on his first full day in office less than two years after the end of what was then america's longest war. the new commander-in-chief was hoping to heal the divisions left by the conflict, the move also drew criticism from some who believed it was too lenient for the men who sidestepped military service during the war, one of the defining presidential moments for carter, who died on december 29th at the age of 100. allen in fort pierce, florida. what do you remember about jimmy carter? >> caller: i think the camp david accords was one of the most monumental peace treaties in this century, that century, and it still goes on. my personal story is i met jimmy carter at the vero beach book center in the 1990s and

bought a couple of his books and got to stand there has he signed them and spoke with me and he was also signing amy carter's children's book, so i purchased that for my niece in north carolina and when she was 5 years old i gave her that book. the cute part of the story is a year ago my niece contacted me because she saved all those books and she has a daughter soon to be 3 years old and she said i have a book that is signed by jimmy carter, the oldest living president and you gave it to me, i'm like yeah, i told her the story about meeting him, she didn't understand that when she was 5 years old when i gave her the book. she was just saying that that is definitely something she's going to cherish because she has that amy carter children's book signed by the president. i just wanted to share that story. >> host: all right, this is

david in lynchburg, virginia, good morning. >> caller: good morning some background, jimmy carter was very kind man, upstanding man. i'm a vietnam veteran myself and i hold him high as my commander-in-chief. thanks for what you have given us. with you and roslyn, i wish you the best and it is a very sad day. to all veterans, appreciate your service. . close.

it weighs on your mind, i wish people would reach that, take care, goodbye. >> host: we will be covering the funeral, the state funeral for jimmy carter happening today scheduled to start at 10:00 am eastern time, the washington national cathedral on your screen where the funeral will take place. the casket of the former president will move from the capitol where it is now to the church, the cathedral and it is scheduled to start at 10:00 a.m. :00 am. we will have full coverage on c-span2 here on the c-span networks, be sure to stay with us for that. in 1999 president carter was interviewed and he was asked about his views of the presidency. >> for a moment, talk about the american presidency, the office of the president.

would you change anything if you could? is as powerful as it should be? >> the american presidency is extremely powerful in the arena of foreign policy. of foreign policy. when i decided to normalize diplomat relations with china the constitution gave me unilateral right to do so, the congress had no role to play in that decision. if i wanted to send troops into battle, i could have done so and has been many times since i left office without consultation or permission from congress in advance. in foreign policy the president is it. domestic legislation, almost all the legislation that was passed in my four years originated in the white house but i can't remember a single major bill that originated in congress. congress expected me to present to them this is what i want you to do about these subjects. we had a good batting average as i said. the thing the president has

practically no control over is the economics of the nation. he has an equal role to play with congress in taxation, but the federal reserve board determines the rate of inflation and the tightness of money in the growth of the economy. greater than that is the free enterprise system of our country. what the conglomerate mass of major corporations do, general motors and ibm and so forth and many others. the other factor over which the president has no control is international situation. if a war erupts or you have an asia crisis which we've had lately, the president has nothing to say about that. when nixon was in office i was governor and we had to form opec and the oil embargo against anyone who traded with israel.

we had long gas lines in the price of oil website high. that was not nixon's fault, he didn't have anything to do with it so the president gets blamed for economic changes if they are bad, he takes credit for them if they are good but for all practical purposes the president plays 10% or 15% role in the nation's economy. foreign policy, the president is at, domestic policy 50 people snapple 50, economy very low. >> caller: we are taking your calls this morning on this day of the state funeral for jimmy carter. his life, his legacy, his presidency, his post presidency, memories you might have of him and this is stacy in maryland. hi, stacy. >> how are you doing? i was young, 11 years old,

watching the speech when he was running for president. i wanted to say that's one of the best speeches i heard for president of the united states. i like his delivery. he reminded me of martin luther king, a vision of peace and that is what we need. the problem with our system today is everybody loves controversy and bs and we need to stop that, president jimmy carter, just started listening more to c-span last night, watched him 2 interviews and listened to him. i thought at one time barack had one of the best but i listened very well last night to jimmy carter, oh my goodness, that is what you should talk about when running for president, stay on topic, stay right where you want and talk about the people, what you're going to do for the

country and i want to say farewell to him enters family, i serve 24 years in the united states navy, i am blessed, i was young, last night listening to c-span, how president carter talked and delivered, what he does for the country and what he has done, his legacy will live on. i hope others who start running for his house, go back and look at the things he was doing, he was saying when he was running for president. wasn't talking negative about nobody, anyone being professional, have to teach our youth how to be professional, teach our youth, we need to show them the right way and i would encourage anyone to look at what jimmy carter has done and that's all i have to say, thank you. >> host: thomas in florida, hi, thomas. >> caller: i want to say i am

coming on board to the trump administration but i look back at jimmy carter, one of the greatest things i think he ever did was proclamation 4483 which he did on january 21, 1977, where he forgave those who dodged the draft in vietnam. i have a lot of respect for all the vietnam veterans, but at the same time i don't think there is anything wrong with a young person wanting to avoid a war that they don't feel is right or they don't feel they are called for. that is something i have a lot of respect for him. as a president, as a man i have to say i have talked to donald trump and we both agreed that he is one of the finest examples of amanda president this country has ever seen. rest in peace, president

carter, you really were one of the finest we ever had. >> host: what will your role be in the trump administration? >> caller: not yet. >> host: call us back and let us know when you can. john in briarcliff, manor, new york, good morning, john. >> caller: thank you for this opportunity. my father died in vietnam on june 1, 1967, a very cruel, painful death because of a malfunctioning helicopter. so than i saw my mother years later watching the news, they were discussing the pardon of those who evaded the draft. my mother was crying and i asked her why are you crying? she looked at me and said because i am happy. it took me years to understand

that but now i do understand, president carter was an incredible man of inclusion, non-exclusion and to see him overall these decades working for habitat for humanity, well into his 90s. we've seen the pictures of him after he had gone to the hospital and back the next day helping build a home, what an absolute wonderful human being that he was and i wanted to say that, god bless the memory of president carter. >> host: in 1979 we had a portion of a speech that became known as the crisis of confidence or malaise speech, he talked about the biggest threat to the united states, this is part of that speech, would love to know what you think of it.

>> a subject even more serious than energy or inflammation. i want to talk to a fundamental threat to american democracy. i do not mean our political and civil liberties. they will indoor. i do not refer to the outward strength of america. the nation that is at peace tonight everywhere in the world with unmatched economic power and military might, the threat is nearly invisible in ordinary ways, it is a crisis of confidence. it is a crisis that strikes at the heart and soul and spirit of our national will. we can see this crisis in the growing doubt about the meaning of our own lives, loss of

unity, of purpose for our nation. the erosion of our confidence in the future is threatening to destroy the social and political fabric of america. the confidence that we have always had as a people is not simply some romantic dream or a proverb in a dusty book that we read on 4 july. it is an idea which founded our nation and guided our development as a people, confidence in the future. public institutions and private enterprise. our own families and the constitution of the united states, confidence is defined our course and has served as a link between generations. we have always believed in

something called progress. we've always had faith that the days of our children would be better than our own. our people are losing that faith. not only in government itself but in the ability as citizens to serve as the ultimate rulers and shapers of our democracy. as a people, we know our past and we are proud of it. our progress has been part of a living history of america, even the world. we always believed that we were part of a great movement of humanity itself called democracy. the search for freedom and that

belief has always strengthened us in our purpose but just as we are losing our confidence in the future we are also beginning to close the door on our past. in a nation that was proud of hard work, strong families, close-knit communities, faith in god, too many of us now tends to worship self-indulgence and consumption, identity is no longer defined by what one does, but by what one owns. what we discovered, owning things and consuming things does not satisfy our longing for meaning.

>> host: what do you think of that? that was summer of 1979, talking about consumption, crisis of confidence that became known as the malaise speech, we are taking your calls, jimmy carter's state funeral is today, we have live coverage of that, at the washington national cathedral. we ship into open forum, we will continue taking your calls but on any topic related to public policy or politics or current events you can give us a call. our lines are by party so democrats 202-748-8,000, republicans 202-748-eight thousand one. independents 202-748-8002. eva calling us from daly city, california.

>> good morning. in this country, my country now from living my country for a dictatorship. i was skyline college and gave us composition about presidents. i wrote about president carter as i remember in class because qualities after living in a dictatorship. god bless his soul and pray to god that we have more presidents like jimmy carter. thank you for allowing me to speak about. >> host: can you tell us what country you came from? >> caller: i came from greece. >> host: the dictatorship there

was? remind us? what was the dictatorship increase? >> caller: it was 1967 budget dictatorship for government, made me come to this country. >> host: all right. here is lewis in dayton, ohio. >> caller: thank you for this opportunity. i was trying to call in for comments about president carter. a new second lieutenant united states army in 1976, that was my late wife's first vote, canceled each other's votes.

about president ford supported jimmy carter. fond memories of president carter, i was stationed in korea, 78, and 79. during that time, president carter came to korea. air defense artillery and concerned when he was there, that was very exciting for me and i recall that he ran with the second infantry, i thought that was amazing that the commander-in-chief would get out with the troops and actually run with the troops.

that was exciting for me also. some of my thoughts. >> host: you can see the flag at half staff for the state funeral of former president jimmy carter who died at the age of 100 on december 29th and roger in great neck, new york, hi, roger. >> caller: i want to thank c-span and take this opportunity to say thank you. msnbc, cnn, fox news, channel 2, channel 4, channel 9, or the news programs and the newspapers, new york times,

they all didn't mention one thing president carter did. on september 1, 1977, president carter opened up the us intersection in havana, cuba that was part of the swiss embassy. we wouldn't have, when president obama made diplomatic relations with cuba, the us embassy was reopened. we wouldn't have the us embassy if it weren't for the us intersection. that is one thing i didn't see them talking about, about the opening up of the embassy and have anna, cuba which was part of the swiss embassy. >> host: i have that here.

cuba 1902, it said in 1977 during president carter's administration the united states signed an agreement establishing the intersection in the have van and cuban intersection in washington dc, diplomatic missions operating under the embassy of switzerland. >> caller: teen all the platitudes and stuff didn't mention us intersection. i don't know why. they didn't talk about it. my father died at age 99 and lived in cuba from early 42 from june 11, 1950, opposite the american industry. this is one thing. >> host: this is roderick in

fort lauderdale, hi, roderick. >> caller: how are you doing? i wanted to call in and give my mutual respect to president carter. he was a wonderful man, him and his wife, not just that but wonderful things they had done through the country and the world and i had never in my life any 2 people almost close to perfect to them. at the same time, wanted to give my tribute to a great wonderful man. >> host: associated press report about president biden, carter and biden's long friendship had wrinkles. it will be unjustly a final time with the eulogy president biden will be eulogizing former president carter today.

we will have that coverage on c-span2. you see a picture of the two of them from 1978. this is from 2008. the two men together, it says president biden's consummate washington insider, jimmy carter was anything but. samuel in hodgkins, california. independent. >> caller: thanks for taking my call. i thought jimmy carter was great. my mother was a democrat and my dad was a republican. they argued a little bit. i was about 18 years old when he got elected, 17 or 18, something that isn't mentioned much, at least once, jimmy carter came to the black canyon, deep canyon we have

here and it was pretty neat for this area, back in the back woods around here and the first time i remember college students came and backpack the rafts. down this steep trail, jimmy carter hiked down the first time, the second time he came out here twice may be. i might be wrong but on the second time, he helicopter down to the bottom of the canyon but it is 2400 feet deep straight down. has got some of the oldest rock in the world, 4 billion-year-old stone down there. what i wanted to say about jimmy carter, he wasn't a politician. he was a sunday school teacher.

there's a big difference. >> host: do you think that's a good thing or bad thing? >> caller: being a sunday school teacher? >> host: as opposed to a politician. >> caller: ten times better. >> host: jamie in pine mountain, georgia, good morning. >> caller: good morning. >> host: what do you think? >> caller: i wanted to remember out of a hole in the ground at a campaign event in woodbury, georgia, the capital of the world. >> host: is that it? here is gary in sterling, virginia. republican line. >> caller: thank you. first time i ever voted for a

democrat was jimmy carter. .. and i want to know who called the 1-800 number and tell them to get rid of that plastic crap, it's a waste of good high quality plastic and the founding fathers said waste not want not. the thing about putin, his eyes are bigger than his belly. he should have known when the lads from liverpool were singing, those ukraine women will knock you out, and then saturday night live they said

wild and crazy guys, he should have known that he thate trouble going in there. poor man, he was abused as a child drama do you live by yourself? >> caller: no. i have a wife and two dogs. >> host: does your wife help you with that plastic thing that bothers you so much on the milk? >> caller: no. she complains about it, too. she's just like me. >> host: staten island, new york, democrat, good morning. the speech that you played just shows how jimmy carter was connected to the people, and the fact that he has observant about

people are feeling and how important that really is to the country just shows the personal connection that he really had, the awareness, how ahead of his time he really was. when we think about how biden lost this election now, because about people were feeling not being talked to like say or not having connection. but it was actually the other way around. they were just hearing it in a different way. but when you say carter's presidency was failed, they are so wrong because there was so much that we are still reaping the benefits from this administration, such as fema, the fires that a are going on right now in l.a., fema will be there for them. hopefully it won't interfere when trump comes in.

but he and his wife who was the first one to also bring mental awareness. that was her devotion as first lady. and by the way, he gave her an office, he was the first president to recognize the importance of his wife and the work she was doing in mental. >> host: no problem. david in new jersey, independent. >> caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. yes, president carter was a great blessing to our nation. however, the principles he talks about of a nation where the people are more about who they are than what they have walt to be realized in america -- won't. most americans probably have no interest in understanding the the depth of this, but it's

explained in something written by a sociologist called the protestant ethic and the spirit of capitalism. and american capitalism and competitiveness are based on very complex principles starting with the earliest people who came here from england who believed that your material success in this world was an indication of whether you would go to heaven or not. and all of this competition of the american character is driven by a deep neurosis and a fear of not going to heaven. and we need to demonstrate that we are saved by material success. it's a very, very neurotic and unhealthy, deeply psychological problem that drives this country. it will never be cured. thank you. >> host: sonya said is a post on x. goodbye to the last decent president. my condolences to his family come this horle man will be

ms. come true patriotic example. and another post on exit this as i campaigned for carter. he was huge disappointment. w much like trumpet he promised a big and delivered little. made in numerous missteps, blame others and crash the economy. and this is tony calling from utah. republican. >> caller: good morning to you. >> host: good morning. >> caller: i have a question. is the president lying in the capital right now? >> host: so the remains of former president trump is lying in the rotunda of the u.s. capitol, jimmy carter? >> host: sorry, carter. , when is he supposed be removed and taken to planes? >> host: the schedule is there will be a a departure ceremont 9 a.m. from the u.s. capitol. there's a motorcade that will take the casket to the national

cathedral. then the arrivals are going to be at about 9:30. the funeral itself starts at 10 a.m. we have live coverage of all of that for you. there is after that ceremony then it's expected to last for about an hour then to go to joint base andrew's and the casket, the family will depart and arriving in georgia. there will be a motorcade to take into mehran ossa baptist church in place. there will be a private funeral service in the afternoon and then a private internment ceremony later today. does that answer -- >> caller: i was also just why don't they put them on trains anymore to tour the country after they are dead? >> host: i don't know the answer to that.

donald in pennsylvania, democrat. good morning. >> good morning. i would like to say that ever since they announced the death of jimmy carter i have been wearing come since the day, two of his campaign buttons that he had out going that camping. also like to say that i took part of his inauguration on the day he was inaugurated january 20, 77. and that was such a delight. i wasn't quite handy to wear, the cut at a a car walk but it wasn't that far away i could at least see the tops of their heads. so i had a wonderful day there in his inauguration and also like to say he is one of the best presidents, whether maga

republicans want to bash them or not and when it comes to decency, donald trump can't touch the top of his toes. that's my, as far as president carter goes. and god bless america. >> host: elizabeth in chicago, illinois, democrat, good morning, thank you so much for the call, dear. i would like to explain that president carter became a friend of mine due to his invitation personally for me to play a violin recital at the white house honoring his visiting gaskin the french premier ramon bar, on the occasion of their signing of the concord airplane between jfk to paris and back to jfk and dulles as was then come later changed to rake in paris back to reagan dulles. the president request i played

the mozart. he loved the music of amadeus mozart. was a very cultured, loving, kind, welcoming, simple man without errors or graces and made us feel so at home. and i also played a very wonderful work to honor the french culture and music for the former french premier by -- the greatest french belgian violinist composer and when i played that, the french premier was thrilled and stood up yelling bravo, told president carter he was so thrilled and american violinist would do that for him. we became friends. i'll most want to in his majesty but i think president carter was a man of rare noble

comfortableness and kindness towards others can even when he did not win the presidency to president reagan. he was so gracious and so helpful, and is after presidency is just so noble for everyone in the world to admire. i can't thank him enough of his graciousness to my parents and to myself. with the same birthday many, many decades apart but he was a noble gentleman and i think it was a wonderful thing that he brought israel and egypt together to make peace. and they have never broken that so thank you so much. best wishes. >> host: thank you for that member. are you still able to play the violin? >> caller: yes, of course. i studied with -- >> host: i'm glad you're still playing, thank you, but it's important that the people, all of us, know that president

carter besides loving guitar and all that, that is of the music of mozart. mozart was a really wholesome musician and i think president carter's heart very deeply. >> host: thanks for sharing that. this is david in washington, d.c. democrat. >> caller: good morning. very few presidents fit the mold of being a peoples president and that's what i remember about president carter, that he brought in a positive atmosphere of love and compassion of which people were drawn to. i remember when he first traveled to india in the 1980s when he was probably one of the first american presidents that traveled there at that time. his trip was received with such

love and excitement that an american president would come there with his wife. i just feel that we have lost a very popular president, that people really loved and cared about. even though we lost the election to president reagan, he will always be remembered, like he was one of us. and so i just feel that he was a peoples president and very few presidents fit that profile. thank you. >> host: pikesville, maryland, democrat. >> caller: good morning. i'm calling to just say how much we miss president carter, how much we loved president carter and all the good things that he did. my dad was a local politician who had gone down to plains georgia with a couple of other politicians prior to president carter being elected.

and and i got from my dad posd saying i have just met the future president of the united states. of course he came to baltimore to campaign, my dad and the other african-american politicians, along with others were out campaigning for him. i had the opportunity to attend the inauguration, and it was a wonderful experience. it was my first inauguration. we were at the parade and, of course, there were five inaugural balls during that time. one of them was held at union station. and interestingly enough they were serving punch. there was no alcohol. there was peanut punch at that inauguration. >> host: how do you even make punch out the peanuts that i have no idea it was a punch. and among those people who are attending were muhammad ali.

and, of course, the people were just enthralled by meeting him. in order for him to leave union station had to form a human wedge to get them out of the station because everyone wanted to be around to medium. i was fortunate to get his autograph during that time but it was a marvelous time to be alive come to be around when president carter was there. now all of the things he did for human rights and civil rights he will never be forgotten, and we just love him. >> host: that's washington union station on your screen. thanks for sharing that, alice. this is harold in vermont. republican. >> caller: good morning. this is what i want to talk about. i was in west africa and i had seen lots of raw peanuts, piles when you first came out. they can actually squeeze and

get the peanut oil, and that's what they were drinking, peanut oil punch, which is good for democrats because they are full of peanuts anyway. the thing i want to talk about what someone has addressed is the military come when he did to the military. he cut back so bad on our funding. when i was active duty in the military, i was a maintenance officer in a squadron that served the u.s. as saratoga, the big aircraft carrier at the time. we went for six-month cruise in the mediterranean which is an obligation set by the united states for many, many years. we had no parts. with a rob our sister squadron to keep our airplanes flyable and operationally ready. there is set on ground. all they could do was fly and burn holes in the sky. they couldn't do any operations while we were gone. the parts were not available. the funds were not available.

he had no clue. i think his submarine lockdown freeze was referred to the aviation community to the submariners were we used to call them bobbleheads. i think the bubble were on as far as winning the military. one of the thing he messed up was we had all those prisoners and iran at the time in 1979. they sat there for many, many come over 100 days. have they gone in there immediately after they were taken prisoners and surprise the whole thing he would've been a different operation but no, he had to wait, wait, because he didn't want anybody hurt. he didn't want anybody killed. but our men were killed where helicopters were lost. a military man he was not. he messed up on military and thank god reagan came along to get it squared away. thank you for listening to me and i am very sorry and my condolences to the carter family. he was a great religious man and

yes, he was friendly with everybody. he spent all this time doing that but not paying attention to what was going on in the capital and the white house. >> host: all right, harold. this is dana hile irma, democrat. >> caller: i am an 80 year old veteran, former flight attendant and wife. but i served at, in florida when the last group of cubans came to the usni volunteered at camp liberty. it was an overnight type thing. but as part of that -- on the minority, inviting me to a speech given by david dukes. it was ironic that here i found that on my windshield but they burned a cross right next to

that. but the thing that i most respected about president carter is -- i knew he was going to always try to do the right thing. not the right thing, the right thing to a higher leader. he was a very simple man. after the recent elections and going through the politics of today, i feel like i'm being led at the national level by calculator. i've never in my wildest dreams thought that we would consider invading greenland, canada, taking over the panama canal. i can recall that being such an expensive proposition, and at the time that it was given over to the panamanians it was because of the logistics of managing it.

but i am very uneasy. at the end of the day, like jimmy carter, i ask what would jesus do? and i felt like that. i felt that he let in that manner. i was also in florida and do some of the people that were part of the iran rescue operation. went through the grief of being close having a june from that base as part of that mission. so i'm very, very grateful but the one thing that i wish i could have a president that when i went, go to bed at night that i could rest easy in knowing that he's going to do the right thing. i can't imagine that american-born children are going to be drug across the mexican border because their parents are illegal. i'm being led by -- i don't think that's always the best way

to make decisions. jimmy carter did, he protected and they tried to make the american people happy and for that i i want to thank the car family. i still have that flyer that i had, found on my windshield in 1980. why i kept it i don't know, but i think i'm going to offer it up to the carter family. but it's just part of my life. i also heard kennedy's last speech in fort worth, texas, as a military member, but , all right. we appreciate your memories. matthew frederick, maryland, independent. >> caller: this is matthew, and in 1978, president carter visited -- [inaudible] visiting our president who had

just become the chairman of the african unity. with that position talbot was wearing two caps. both domestic and on the african continent. so the delegation to monrovia headed by president carter was interested in what was going on at that time. we know that angola is a neighbor to then apartheid south africa. angola was in the heat of a civil war between those who wanted to liberate angola out of the wing from communism of cuba to becoming a truly alone allied country as a professes to be at that time. so we wanted -- to use his newly

found influence for the organization of african unity to form the leadership of angola to become truly on a line. this is in connection with the american foreign policy. i think during that time it was said honorable -- who was then the interim secretary of state traveling with the jimmy carter. how about, in other words, was also interest in domestic policy in liberia. he wanted -- [inaudible] and he wanted american -- he also wanted assistance from america for housing in liberia because monrovia was getting crowded. so these are some of the experiences we liberians -- jimmy carter and respect we have

for him. i particularly visit the united states the first time in 1988 and visited the carter center for the first time and saw how wonderful it is and how many people it serves. so president carter will remain in our own memories and we thank the kind of america for giving us such a leader on the world stage. thank you. >> host: thank you, matthew. in addition to the state funeral happening starting at about 10 a.m. eastern today there is also those wildfires in southern california. we are watching that. the latest from the "washington post" says five people have been killed as a result of those fires achilles 130,000 flee as crews struggle to contain the blazes. this is a picture of firefighters fighting a fire any

home on the beach. you can see the beach right here. president biden was at, talked about the federal response to the wildfires while visiting a station in los angeles area. yesterday he spoke after he and california governor gavin newsom were briefed by the state fire officials. here's a portion of that. >> governor asked for a declaration -- [inaudible] i'm very excited today. folks, the fact is i put the duty, department defense to properly -- also california national guard is adding to the error firefighting systems and two were already from the national guard, nevada national guard. four more coming from the

northern command and ten navy helicopters with water delivery buckets are coming down from san diego. we are prepared to do anything and everything as long as it takes to contain these fires and help victims reconstruct to make sure you get back to normal. it will be a hell of a long way. so it will take time. >> host: here's a map from the "washington post" of those wildfires. the darker red caller is an evacuation order. the yellow is an evacuation warning so there's these fires here. you can see this in santa monica here, san fernando here. this is pasadena. you can kind of get an idea of the los angeles area and those areas that are affected. and let's talk to gary in georgia. good morning. >> caller: good morning, mimi.

i was ten in 1968 when we were selected to be page boys for the governor through the boy scouts. and we went to the state capital and we took letters and stuff up to the podium there. we spent most of our time in the milk room drinking chocolate milk. we had never had chocolate milk come from a machine before, and we spent hours drinking chocolate milk. but anyway, we got to meet the president. he was the governor at the time, and we got her picture taken with him and he give each one of us a little bag of peanuts. and he shook our hands and spoke to us. and i remember him being such a nice, soft spoken person that

you, you had to feel love for him because he was such a decent person. we also met lester maddox that same day. and you could tell there was a difference in the two politicians. but jimmy carter was one of the best democrats that there ever was. and i wish more democrats with model their self after him instead of some of the ones that they are modeling after. so my thoughts and prayers are with the carter family, and with the people out in california that's lost everything and don't know whether to turn around or just sit down and quit. >> host: all right. this is tina, democrat in greensboro, north carolina. good morning, tina. >> caller: good morning good

morning. this is a somewhat sad day, but sometimes little things and actions matter a lot. jimmy carter in 1979 invite my sister judy to sing at the white house. she was performing gospel music after the performance a photographer captured her with rosalynn and president carter. and, of course, he signed the photo. that was the first family member who brushed shoulders with an american president, a girl from roland north carolina population at the time 1800 and was a student at north carolina school of the arts. that photo was posted on my parents won't until their death. it was also a passport for julie

who became a broadway singer and dream girl. she played the role of -- she was toasted on the billboard top ten. so little things make a great difference. and when i look at jimmy carter's presidency, and life, because i've never seen a perfect person and never hope to see one because i know i will be in heaven, and i compare it to the president. there's a glaring, stark difference. jimmy carter actually showed caring for people. he wasn't a substantive man but a christ centered man. and i'm looking now, i have a gambler with a casino background and seems to revel in ill-gotten

gains. i look at jimmy carter, sunday school teacher come such a dedication, a decent man, versus one who cheats at golf and placed too much golf versus running the country. i look at jimmy carter as a moral man, a decent man, not one who is unethical or a convicted felon. i look at jimmy carter as an educated -- and a lot of people understand the education business is a serious major, not one whose academic career is puzzling and hidden from public view. we don't know what was going on there. -- peace and love. >> host: this is robert, republican in california. good morning. >> caller: good morning. first, i would like to send my condolences to the carter

family. jimmy carter undoubtedly have a complicated legacy. i think we all have recognize his impact and i think his strong moral character. i think when you look at the post-presidency today, jimmy carter has paved the way for that. the one thing i want to highlight i think people don't really focus on is the complicated political legacy of jimmy carter among democrats. he was an outsider i do think when you look at republicans today, like donald trump or even some others came before ron paul and others, jimmy carter came on the scene as a complete outsider. even in 1980 when he was running for reelection, ted kennedy, strong challenge to them and affect almost knocked him out as an incumbent president. and i think despite his failings as president i don't think that's appropriate to go into today, i think just the legacy

of him as an outsider and particularly as it pertains to i guess you could say defeating sort of the kennedy residential dynasty, ted kennedy lost in making 80 of course and carter went on to lose to reagan in a landslide here but it just make jimmy carter in a way stuck by his beliefs, whether i agree with them or not, , to think ina way that has to be applauded. in his final days he was very open about this sort of uc had with ted kennedy, over a health care bill that didn't get past. and even with clinton and obama, the post-presidency relations were were not always to but i think you stood by with what he meant. in in a way that should be applauded. so i want to send my condolences to the carter family. i think he will leave a legacy that undoubtedly historians will look at for many generations. but it do think the fact he was really the first political

outsider that i could think of and like the later 20th century i think without a doubt has impacted the way we see politics today. when you look at donald trump and other outsider figures, jimmy carter, thank you. >> host: new jersey,, independent line. >> caller: yes, good morning. thank you for taking my call. i'll relate an experience, i assume no other listener has experienced. in 1979 or 1980, my wife and i were in manhattan, and it was in the evening. i think after dinner walking down the street, and i looked across the street. there was a long block limo surrounded by men in suits.

so i crossed the street. my wife it didn't, and i walked right up to the limo, put my face almost against the glass and the back seat, and there was the first lady, roslyn carter. and i gave her a big smile and a big wave, and she returned a big smile and a bigave. and i walked away and at no time did anybody in the secret service approach me. and my second comment is about,

in september, i think was maybe early or mid september, i sent a 100th birthday card to the president. and i'm paraphrasing, basically i said, i know that jimmy had said -- lived to see his sons birthday at the cast is over,, her. >> slice it, mr. president, not only will you celebrate your 100th birthday, but you will also live to cast your vote for kamala harris. and then i said lastly, you will also, you and i will both on

january 20, 2025, watch the swearing in of madam president. well, i was right to out of three times. >> host: appreciate that call. this is york, pennsylvania, democrat. good morning. >> caller: good morning, everyone. a previous caller asked why a train was not used to take president carter to washington. he turned that down according to an article in the "new york times." i think it would've been very well done if he had gone ahead with that. and the reason why if anyone has seen the movie bobby, where the replay the actual footage of his train going to washington, d.c., it just brings a tear to your eye.

everything from black executives in suits and blonde teenagers coming from a baseball game, you know, holding their hats over their heart. very cheerful. and i just logged president carter for his morals -- laud -- for his morals and his courage thank you. >> host: joe in new york. republican. >> caller: how you doing? i just want to comment on a fantastic jeopardy. quantity a quick applauded. [applause] >> host: appreciate that. go ahead with your comment. >> caller: first of all on part of the media. i do an internet radio show, the crazy joe show.com. i wanted to ask you send you did the report on the fires in california, which is horrendous, and my compliments to journalism that you actually took time to talk about that.

also my condolences to jimmy. he was a great president. i wish there were more democrats like him. but do you have any information on how these fires, they are so annoying to look at in the media, where california seems of like the worst record of fires. how do these fires start? basically this one. was it arson? do you have any information on that? because it's just incredible. >> host: joe, i've not seen the reporting on that but if it does come up we will definitely share that with you. what you are looking at is just outside the capitol building here. you can see that procession, we will watch a little bit here. [background sounds]

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>> host: you just saw that military procession going on to the capitol steps in preparation for former president jimmy carter's state funeral. the events are going to be kicking off soon. we will show you that. we are simulcasting "washington journal" today on both c-span and c-span2. here on c-span right at 930 time at the house will be gaveling in for the legislative business so we will take you to the house on c-span but you can continue watching the state funeral of former president jimmy carter on c-span2. we will have full coverage of that event. and continue to take your calls. so we will go now to justin in massachusetts, democrat. justin? >> caller: yes. i want to give my regrets to the carter family, a great man. but my main reason is for the

fighters. when obama was in north carolina i called and they got a secretary and i told her all our battleships, all our cruise ships have machinery technology to turn salt water into fresh water. why don't we put plants at my california and turn the freshwater, since the pipes in, thousand wide, feet wide, like your watering the grass? you got all the water in the world of there. and she says, oh, my gosh, you know, i feel sorry for the people with her homes but most of them have insurance. our trees don't. without our trees we are dead. and she said oh, my god, can they give that to obama to use?

i said sure. underwrote them a letter and said, nothing came of it. but, i mean, this every year fire fire fire. put these big plans out in the ocean, pump the water in, turn into fresh water and we water places that need it. >> host: justin, the los angeles times is saying it's one of the most destructive firestorms in l.a. history. five people have been killed as a result of the fires. two -- 2000 buildings, lose lease 130,000 residents are under evacuation orders. and here is brought in woodstock, georgia, republican. good morning. >> caller: i do want to commend jimmy carter as an outsider. he was a true outsider but he

was allowed to live throughout his whole term. and now we have a second outsider in donald trump, and immediately they deal changed. the cia, a washington, d.c. bureaucracy went against them to try to cast him out. and on january 6, 2021, what happened is they lured all of his supporters into the capitol building. and then you can see the capitol police on top of the building throwing grenades and shooting rubber bullets into a crowd of peaceful demonstrators. and they were there to support president trump because the house was about to challenge the election. several congressman were going to challenge it. senator cruz that he was going to challenge it, and they went into the capital to stop that. i saw senator loeffler changer

vote from challenging the election to accepting the election. and so the whole country was hoodwinked by the bureaucracy in washington, d.c. to try to get trump removed from office. and then the second time when he's running for office use all a sniper sitting on top of the building walking around and his protection just sat there and waited for this person to shoot at a president. and he did. he shot at the present and almost killed him. and now an election coming up their setting the tone for another because they keep saying he cannot serve again, he cannot serve again. i would not be surprised -- >> host: hold on. he could not after this term you mean? , no, no, no. leading up to the -- cheney and all said we will not allow him back into office and we cannot allow him back in the office, got it.

on your screen you are seeing the procession of the carter family leaving the blair house in preparation for that state funeral. we will continue to take your calls. carter in oak ridge, tennessee, good morning. >> caller: good morning. it's quite a form to the variety of opinions and, unfortunately, some misinformation. one thing i want to bring up, the difficulty jimmy carter had with some circumstances at the time. opec and the oil companies conspired starting in 1973 to create artificial shortages to drive up the prices of oil at the tank, and many times running them out. and that continued through 1979, if not 1980. and then he's often blamed for the iran hostage crisis, which was a revolution by the iranian

people against the shah of iran who was a dictator and they were brutal revolutionaries and the kidnapped our diplomats. but in the efforts to free those hostages, there several books out about that including a new one by craig unger called them of spies about the carter reagan campaign in 1980 and the secret and illegal negotiations between the reagan campaign beginning with campaign chairman bill casey along with former texas governor john connally and henry kissinger and others to convince the iranians to hold the hostages past the election in order to damage jimmy carter's chances. several times the president and the ayatollahs people had worked almost to within an agreement to

get the hostages out in the summer of 1980. but the first arms for hostages secret deal occurred in august of 1980 in madrid, spain, with bill casey. and the promise was rockets to iran, u.s. made weapons come if they would hold the hostages until the minute reagan stepped on the inaugural platform, should he be elected. and he was. the carter support collapsed the week before the election. no hostages released, and the weapons started flowing from ironically israel and turkey straight to iran within five minutes, those planes left of delivering those weapons. so with all this misinformation about carter not being a military man, he was a naval officer. there needs to be some

corrections i would recommend craigs book. years ago a book was called october surprise. different articles in the "new york times" and consortium news and many others. so thank you for letting me speak that. >> host: and here is beverly in california. go right ahead, beverly. >> caller: good morning. happy new year. i wanted to speak directly about something i haven't heard anyone talk about let me preface this by saying i am a speech therapist, now retired, 32 years. and particularly worked with those who did that speech impediments, a stammer, a stutter.

oftentimes thought to be slow or have memory loss or dementia or things of that nature, or even under the influence of either i'll call or drugs dash of alcohol or drugs. and then that is the case. a speech impediment, the old you get this document. it is even more pronounced. as in the case of our president biden. president biden is as sharp as a tack. his faculties are all their 100%. however, he has a disability of having a speech impediment. and i was just appalled at trial in 2016 we made fun of a person

with a disability. and even more so when he made fun of president biden and the way that he spoke. because he has a speech impediment. i'm so surprised that no one ever addressed this issue. i watch you every day, and other news outlets as well, and i heard no one address that issue and it's a known documented fact. are you aware of that? >> host: all right, beverly. appreciate your adding that we're going to go back to our coverage of the carter, the jimmy carter state funeral that's kicking off. you can see the family there, the military procession getting ready to go into the capital. the casket will then be taken to the national cathedral. and we're going to be taking

your calls and focused on the legacy, the life of former president jimmy carter. if you'd like to weigh in on that, on lions are going to be by region so we will go back to that. eastern/central time zones is 202-748-8000. sorry, , mountain and pacific is going to be 202-748-8001. if you already on the phone please do hold on. we will definitely get to you. you see a split screen there with the inside of the national cathedral in washington. and we will go to the phones. kathleen and dayton, ohio. go right ahead. >> caller: thanks so much always for "washington journal" and c-span's covers. you guys widen our spectrums. but you know it's so start the difference between what's taking

place in d.c. today at the capital over the last several days. you know, to what took place on january 6 in 2001. the stark difference is just like, it's alarming. it's calm and in many ways watching what's going on compared what went on in 2001. but, i mean, i worked for carter's campaign when he ran for president. i so admired. i grew up catholic. i'm not catholic any longer but it just admired even as a young person how he walked the talk of his faith. wasn't always possible for him to do so given, being the president but he tried so hard. i have to say this is what i admired most about him. and then what we are not hearing on the media coverage, incredible coverage of his life, at a want to say c-span has an

incredible archive of all his speeches. so i recommend people go there and really listen to the guy. incredible intelligence. i mean that guy had some marbles in that brain and he maintained those marbles until the very end of his life. people are not talking about how he wrote -- noah's talk about it on msnbc, on pbs or bbc or c-span. i wish people would talk about his stance on the palestine israel conflict as well as read his book. came out almost 20 years ago. people are not talking about desha. [inaudible] the interviewer didn't even talk about that issue. they talk about camp david but they didn't talk about his stance on that conflict. gaza has dropped off the

mainstream media map. carter had an incredibly big heart and we know how we felt about that issue and he wanted us to have empathy not what just -- what jews went through in the holocaust and the people of palestine know. i hope people really cover that more often. i can't help with the stands out in my mind so much about how frugal and, carter was come even talking about taking a small bag when he would travel and washing his socks out at night, not throwing out the plates until they were absolutely broken. i mean, i just love that he desha very conscientious, you know, his speeches about energy, his energy policy are phenomenal to watch.

he was so far ahead of energy policy way back when, putting solar panels on, putting on a sweater, asking us all to cut back on our usage. i mean, i just, i'm so moved by a honorable that man was. i mean, i've wept so may times this week watching coverage about him. the guy walked his christian talk and i think he is incredibly remarkable. >> host: all right, kathleen. you're watching just outside the capitol building their the remains of former president jimmy carter is still inside the capital in the rotunda people make its way through the national cathedral. we'll continue our live coverage on c-span. we are simulcasting "washington journal" on c-span and c-span2 so that we can continue with you and keep taking your calls. you can continue to calling throughout the program. we're going to be taking your

calls and taking a look at what's happening on the screen as well. little information for you on the carter family. this is from today.com. says the capital, which -ism and obviously this elevated their 77th wedding anniversary months before her death. that was in 2023. they are the longest to making them the longest married couple in presidential history. they have four children, john, known as jack, is 77. james known as chip is 74, and the now known as jeff is 72 as well as their daughter amy who is 57. they also have a dozen grandchildren and more great-grandchildren. jeff in north carolina good morning, good morning.

i would like to make a statement. i've been watching c-span for about a year and a half and i've been watching it pretty close. and what i do not like is every time somebody gets on making sense about trump, january 6, you hit that plug. anybody else can get on and go on and on and on if they're putting him down tremont geoffrey kemp we are talking about former president jimmy carter. did you have a comment about that? >> caller: you did yourself a disservice. every time. i mean, it's like, it's getting like it's going to be msnbc, cnn. >> host: and that is the casket. we will watch for a bit here on c-span. this is the casket come out of the capitol building work.

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the son of president gerald ford. the son of vice-president mondale. you'll hear from his former advisor stuart eisenstat. he was on the program a few days ago, if you'd like to see what he had to say you can see that in our archives. you'll hear from jason carter, his grandson, also chair of the carter board of trustees. you'll hear from president biden who will give a eulogy and grandson james carter, as well as homily by the reverend andrew young, former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and you'll hear songs by garth brooks and trisha yearwood. that's all going to be starting at about 10:00 a.m. eastern apartment the national cathedral. you can keep calling in and share your remembrances and your thoughts on jimmy carter's

legacy. and here is ron in minnesota. >> hi, first of all, i want to compliment c-span on your coverage of this funeral. i'm a republican, but not in this sense. condolences to the carter family. we have a great man in our presence. i have been trying to get coverage from the regular channels on the funeral and i realize the fire is a disaster, but we need to celebrate the greatness of this man, whether you agree with his politics or not. i'm a trump republican and i respect the man who he is and

who he was. i was touched by the number of young people that were at the funeral last evening and we need to have more civility in our discourse and campaigns and as i said, i'm a trump republican so i watched the debate between gerald ford and jimmy in your coverage yesterday and i was so touched by the way in which he deferred to his opponent. so you don't have to be a democrat to respect this man. thank you very much for taking

mine. >> and gene in parkridge, illinois. >> yes, good morning. i protected four u.s. presidents and my first president was president carter, uniformed marked car. i'm a retired lieutenant, i also completed the secret service school down in glenco, georgia in procedures and operations. i want to say some of the finest agents i've ever worked with were with the secret service and i want to commend the men and women that are standing in that cold. they deserve our gratitude and a salute. thank you very much. >> and there's an article here from cnn.com, the president's club convening to honor jimmy carter at contentious moment for the exclusive group. it says this, it's the world's most exclusive fraternity and on thursday, that's today, all five members of the so-called

president's club will gather to honor one of their own. presidents bill clinton, george w. bush, barack obama, donald trump and joe biden are expected to attend the state funeral of former president jimmy carter. it says it will mark the first time all of the clubs living members will come face-to-face since the funeral of george h.w. bush in december of 2018. six years later, the group has sharply fractured dynamics that will be closely watched at the national cathedral service. president trump in less than two weeks will return to the white house. and this is dj, in oceano, california, good morning. >> good morning.

>> go right ahead, yes. >> god bless president carter and condolences to his family, he was a good man, a great man, and i think a true christian and i would just like to say that to all the true christians in the country right now, only love can conquer hate, only truth can conquer lies and deceit, lies and deceit are not from the lord, they come from another place. god bless you, and god bless the united states. >> janice in fayetteville, tennessee. good morning. >> good morning, i just want to say that he was my first president i ever voted for and i would just like to say, you

know, he was a great person. i mean, president and after president. and i just wanted to ask if you all want to show his funeral again sometime this week or because i'm going to miss it, so-- >> all right, well, we'll have it on our website, janice, you can definitely see it there. and you see on your screen that's former senator john kerry. she is are the attendees that are-- that have already gathered inside the national cathedral in washington. there is the motorcade just starting now its journey across town to the washington national cathedral. the ceremony is set to start at about 10 a.m. eastern time. linda, detroit, michigan, good morning. >> good morning. i wanted to express my condolences to jimmy carter's

family and my appreciation for c-span for all it does for us and keeping us informed, but i most would like to say that jimmy carter was a great humanitarian and that he loved all people, including the black people in urban communities, he helped out most urban communities in this country and we're not aware of the money he spent in detroit, michigan. we received almost-- well, we received over a million dollars after our communities were bulldozed down and he was there to assist us and help us, he expressed great love for our people and that's all i'd like to say. >> tom in buffalo, new york. you're next, tom. >> oh, great. yeah, as soon as i heard carter died i immediately said, geez, i'm going to pull out the old

vcr tape april of 1990, my kids were little, tom, jeff and libby, they were eight, six and four, libby's almost five. and you had to do the disney world thing, went down to orlando and drove down there in the aero star, 1990. and i said, let's stop in plain, you couldn't do it now, they'd probably see if you're a terrorist or something, we went to plains, unfortunately, he wasn't there. but this guy, local, an old chevy van, took people around. we were the only ones there, the family there. and showed us around and i have a movie of the whole thing, and they drove us, lasted about a half hour. billy carter had a gas station, oh, so terrible he drank beer, wow, like that was a big deal. anyway, it shows how crazy they were. anyway, we took -- the house he

lived in is little two bedroom and he lived in public housing at one time. do you hear me, i don't hear you. >> yeah, yeah. >> and anyway, it was wonderful, they showed the old-- we went to the cemetery and we just drove in and this guy with a van took us around, i don't know, maybe $10, $20. >> do you know, tom, you know, speaking of his humble beginnings. i heard that he grew up without electricity until the age of 11. >> yeah, they had no indoor plumbing and went in the outhouse, i guess. and anyway, even the house he lived in-- this is 1990, just something, a two-bedroom. matter of fact, it was three and he knocked down a wall for a study for him. and such a simple man. unfortunately, he wasn't there and usually gave sunday school classes there and unfortunately he wasn't there, but what a tape, the tape is old to me, i

had my kids in it and sitting in front of billy carter's gas station and the steps and everything in the campaign. it was so neat and i feel so bad, well, 100 years, you can't be all bad how many people live to be 100? general way he was-- what i remember about him, he was a simple man, but honest. come on, i'm 76 and i couldn't vote for-- in '68 had to be 21 back then and first, i voted for mcgovern, and then i voted for carter and oh, my god, and he's the only-- i think the only president in my lifetime, look at all of them that was actually honest. there was no scandals. the only scandal i remember was, oh, billy carter drank too much, big deal, he drank a little bear, beer, anyway. >> thank you, tom, and you're

watching the motorcade through washington d.c. en route to the national cathedral should be getting there in about 10 minutes and it's a cold day in washington, you can see the snow on the ground, it's about 25 degrees outside and in that shot you can see the capitol dome in the background and some people taking pictures on the street there. and in alexandria, virginia, good morning. >> good morning. yeah, i just wanted to share a memory of his-- i'm sorry, his presidential campaign was the first presidential campaign i ever worked on. i was in college at the time. it wasn't the first election i voted in, i voted my first election was 1972, but in '76 i not only worked on his campaign, i was coordinator for him back when i lived in illinois and his was the first inauguration i attended. so i just wanted to share that,

thank you. >> and her is tiffany in signal mountain, tennessee. >> thank you, good morning. thank you for taking my call. i want to share a remembrance from my childhood. i was a child when jimmy carter was in office and was elected and i grew up on a very rural farm and my grandparents were very big proponents of jimmy carter and i guess from just a very small child i learned the civic responsibility, just from my grandparents and how they supported him and just sharing that knowledge with children and understanding what our civic responsibilities are. carter just really-- jimmy carter just really exemplified the honesty, the integrity and just being a champion of not everybody, but especially rural people and that's why my grandparents, who

grew up on this farm throughout their lives, too, it was just really kind of a special experience to have jimmy carter as our president and i feel very privileged to have lived in a time where i remember that and one of my significant remembrances is my grandfather gave me as a child a little pocket knife that was white with a little blew writing blue writing on it and that was one of my christmas gifts and i regret i don't still have that little pocket knife. i just remember them being so supportive of him and everything he stood for and it just seems kind of a shame that he didn't have a second term and that the circumstances just kind of resulted in, you know, that single term because i think he was probably one of our greatest presidents ever and i just hope that we can return to some of those values

that he exemplified. thank you for taking my call. >> all right, tiffany, and the motorcade is making its way towards the national cathedral. it will pass the white house and you will-- you'll not be able to see the white house in the background, but it will slow down. you'll see the inaugural viewing stand and the presidential seal on the reviewing stand is the same one that was used for jimmy carter's inauguration. you can all just see on your screen there the guests that started to assemble inside the washington cathedral in preparation for that state funeral and you saw the supreme court justices and you see there the orchestra playing. and this is john in plainview, new york. hi, john. >> hi, good morning, thank you for taking my call. you're doing a fantastic job with the carter coverage. a wonderful human being. i was 10 years old when he was

elected and i remember asking my dad about him because thinking back on it now at the time, no one really knew who jimmy carter was politically and my parents were greek immigrants and they were kennedy democrats and i asked him who is jimmy carter? and my father said, i really don't know, but i do know that he's always holding a bible in one hand and the greek orthodox were pretty religious and that was a positive corporation. i didn't want to say anything negative, but i have to, a lot of these evangelicals today could take a cue from jimmy carter, he was a real evangelical, love your neighbor and do unto others and i see a lot of present day evangelicals, do not follow. jimmy carter would be an outsider in that community, also. i just wanted to say i felt he was a wonderful human being, i thought he had a great presidency and there's one story that i keep hearing now

lately that he's gone, when he was a young lieutenant in the navy, apparently he was part of a rescue mission in a nuclear reactor meltdown in canada and not a lot of coverage is spent on that, but i find that story very fascinating, if your viewers want to look that up, it's a fascinating story about how he put his life at risk to help a canadian nuclear reactor and he was actually-- people forget he's 100 years old now and a young man and they had to rappel into this nuclear reactor and spend, you know, just limited amount of time and then they had to come back out. once again, i'll keep it brief. excellent coverage. i really appreciate you guys being on the air, and farewell to a great man, thank you. >> thanks, john. and you see the motorcade on one side of your screen and the guests assembled inside the washington national cathedral on the other. you saw former vice-president

mike pence, you saw outgoing canadian prime minister justin trudeau there all in attendance, five presidents expected there, bill clinton, george w. bush, barack obama, president biden will be speaking tonight and also president-elect donald trump. here is mark in new york, new york. >> good morning, mark. >> good morning. hey, grateful for the opportunity to express my appreciation for jimmy carter and his inspiration. i had a chance to meet president carter at maranatha and also invited to be at the world premier of "man from plains" and i led what was part of a number of teams over the last 20 years or so in africa, we built 88 homes for orphans and vulnerable children through habitat for humanity i never

would have known about if it wasn't for jimmy carter's participatings in that great program. a lot of great things in my life, met a lot of great friends, and my job now, and met my wife in mozambique of all places. and what a man he was, and incredible, and honored to tell what he meant to me in person and successful and great person. grateful for your coverage and the opportunity today, thank you. >> here is joanna in milford, delaware. hi, joanna. >> good morning. thank you so much for taking my call. i just wanted to say you know, president carter was such a visionary, i think he lived 100 years above 100 years that he had lived. he found empathy and he found kindness in those who were the

poorest of poor. he was not a prima donna. he was not a politician, he was a human being and on behalf of the entire state of delaware, i want you to know that we are so grateful. we're so grateful for his life and for his good deeds and i hope that we can continue them. there's not enough time in the day, there's not enough words to say, i couldn't find one human being who could ever say anything negative about president carter and i cannot wait for him to be happily in arms with rosalynn and i god bless him and god bless all of

the soldiers they're freezing, standing outside in 20 degrees, god bless you guys. >> thank you, joanna. >> and thank you. >> and you see the motorcade there with the remains of mr. carter. you see the guests inside the national cathedral. you saw hunter biden there, that's former vice-president al gore sitting there as well and former-- sitting right next to former vice-president mike pence, actually, and we're going to be covering all of the funeral, expected to get started at about 10 a.m. we will continue our coverage. we're simulcasting on c-span2. we're going to the house in about a minute when they gavel in for our gavel to gavel coverage for the house of representatives on c-span, but if you'd like to continue our coverage of mr. carter's

funeral, please do join us at c-span2 if you're not already watching there. kenneth, san jose, california, good morning. >> hi, thanks for taking my call. i just wanted to get a quick word in before i go to work, it's early here. i just want people to know that this man did a lot of things outside of the presidency and the guinea worm, he was a pure humanitarian, he built homes. he was a man of faith and i remember people read his books about his boyhood because a lot of his humanitarian could extend from his experiences at home. his mother was a nurse. >> hold on just one moment with me, i'm going to let you continue the conversation, but here on c-span, i'm going to tell viewers that we're going to go to the house of representatives. they're about to gavel in. we will again continue our coverage over on c-span2.

all right. kenneth in san jose, california, i had to pause you there. >> no worries. i'd recommend that people read his book and how his childhood and his family life affected his humanitarianism. his mother was a nurse and so ahead of her time and make sure to put oil under the seats of the-- under the legs of the beds and ensuring bed bugs would be killed and she would wash the sheets every day and dry them out, like i think everything-- this is i think what caused him to really be such a great humanitarian, want to cure diseases and whatnot and one final word i wanted to say is basically, you know, he didn't drink much because many of his family suffered from pancreatic cancer and i think his brother, i think suffered from alcoholism and kept his mind

sharp after the presidency and would keep a light mind and have faith, you can really live to be 100 and have a life well-lived. thanks for taking the call. >> and we will watch a little bit here. you're seeing the inside of the washington national cathedral on your screen. the motorcade has arrived so that will -- they will be bringing the casket into the church and the family will also be arriving. we are going to continue to take calls, so we'll just listen a little bit here to the music. ♪♪ ♪♪

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bobby jo carter, born in the same town as lillian gordy. his mom. and i was privileged to meet jimmy at the family reunion in may of 1998. he took a year and a half of his life organized our family reunion and a big crowd of us gathered in plains for three days and on the third day in the church, he challenged all of us to live a life that transcendent and ever since 1976 when my dad said we're related to jimmy, i said jimmy carter? the guy who's running for president? and here i have a green book in front of me signed by our cousin jimmy. and i want to do something different. since i don't do very often, but out of honor to him i want to say in the last four years, this administration has been effective in the camp david

agreement, in peace, in the middle east. he's been a light for our family and an example, he challenged all of us as his kin to be better. not just for our self, but for everybody around us. i have two letters that he's wrote to me in his busy life and every morning i get up and i'm grateful that i have a father and a cousin, both born in 1924, three weeks apart. i just wish my dad had lived long enough to be at the family reunion, but when i look at jimmy carter i think, when he passed away, it felt like my father had passed away again. that's how close we are in the carter side of the family and if anybody's listening, who went to that reunion, you're sad, but you're grateful to have cousin jimmy as an incredible example.

his chapter is closed, but those of us who call him our family, our cousin, are so grateful for the example that he walked the walk and talked the talk. thank you so much. i appreciate this whole coverage. >> all right, lou. and that's the motorcade, i told you it has arrived and it's still making its way down the snowy streets of washington d.c. to the washington national cathedral. and we have shots inside of the cathedral of the guests that are assembled there. you might have seen earlier vice-president-elect j.d. vance with his wife usha in attendance and shots here, we'll just watch the motorcade here. [background sounds]

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♪♪ ♪♪ >> and we will be with you throughout the morning of the state funeral and we're going to be taking a few more calls. donna has been waiting from columbus, ohio. hi, donna. >> good morning. i just wanted to express my heart felt sympathy to the carter family.

i was eight when president carter was elected. i was 16 when i heard him speak at a national youth gathering. i was 18 when i joined the navy. he set an example, he and his wife, not just how we as humans and families, but as a country, as citizens. so i know this is a hard time for them, but i just wanted to express my sympathy and tell them thank you for sharing such a lovely man with the world. >> john in riverhead, new york. good morning, john. >> good morning. always thanks to c-span for giving us history raw rather than filtered through talking heads. so, i think carter has great

impact on our history and still is resonating today. we did a webinar a couple of nights ago on his history with vietnam and cambodia and amnesty. i think if people go to youtube to our youtube channel, which is fund for reconciliation and development, they would find it fascinating recall of crucial events that shaped america in seoul and southeast asia. i think that there's an equally interesting story that hasn't been covered about his history with cuba. remember, carter was the one who opened the intersections, who really broke through the ice that led to the possibilities of what president obama did. so i think reexamining what he did and how he did it would

contribute to the general political awareness in the country. >> and to james in buffalo, kentucky. good morning, james. >> hey, good morning to you. yeah, this is a real sad day. i go back a little ways with presidents and you know, they-- i grew up in a republican family, but they -- the biggest problem in that era, that time era, people had values, norms and decency. now, you guys had a lady on tv yesterday from vermont and she was a democrat and she was saying how trump doesn't-- anyway, he doesn't have any insight. yes, yes, like public -- or affordable housing, affordable

housing comes with bringing in jobs, so people can save. you know, i bought and paid for two houses and about to buy my third house and you have to work, you have to work to get that. nobody gives you that. but if it's sad, just-- it's just sad to see how america where we're at now with who is in office and how sad that is compared to his era, the reason why they lost is because of all of this woke and all of this-- he's trying to wreck the nation before trump gets in there, that's sad. and a lot of people still have values and norms and decency in this country and it's just sad what we've got in there now. i know there i see trump there, he's showing his respect. >> yeah, and james, that's what i wanted t