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>> vice president on russia former cia analyst chief. welcome to the program. it takes generally comes to foreign policy specifically toward ukraineta russia. >> entrance partisan organization bringing the left and right together around the notion that the united states needs to reinvigorate the policy. and more on restraint american interest in mind and using diplomacy.

>> we don't take money from foreign entities for defense contractors. >> on the issue of ukraine, three years, what is your assessment of the last three years to date? >> it's been quite destructive and disruptive. in the united states and russia which would likely go nuclear and catastrophic but right now the momentum, they turn this into a war of attrition where the superior military production

has an impact on wearing out ukrainians slowly running out of in the west is running out of weapons to provide to ukraine. creates an end. >> last week talking among party members, what is the question for the trump administration for the state department moving forward in negotiations? >> russian-american ukrainian court interest. find out where they overlap and manage that situation so we can compromise in ways that respect everybody's mind on all this. we are seeing that already, a fair amount of controversy to

the public domain on all of this. >> the biggest challenge we face on the russian side is russia skepticism you're willing to talk about what moscow the court issue is the expansion of the nato alliance eastward. in ways that russia believes friends security entrance. willing to talk about whether ukraine will be a member of nato or not, something that will happen sooner or later in russia to get a voice and that so they said no have to compromise on

his force to prevent that from happening so the trump administration has got to signal for the russia willing to talk about that. they had to do so in a way that doesn't make a concession that russia was are supported and make a compromise. they don't want to talk about that issue. germany undertook in world war ii and their belief is you don't ever offered diplomacy to an aggressor and only makes the problem worse. they were in an escalatory viral and things the west has done and

security will print russia's security concern. unless there is diplomacy to and that spiral so we have to convince the ukrainians but that is what is necessary and that's what you're saying the public arguing over this. >> talking about these efforts, discussing and to the war without any ally at the table violates the fundamental principle united states proclaimed from the outset and nothing about ukraine about ukraine. the victory portrays the world of struggle for years of influence among great powers rather than the brutal way that it is. >> that incorporates nicely in these was about contending over

how you understand the situation right now. the appetite for more progression in the trump administration says that is the misdiagnosis of the problem. the trump administration did a good job signaling to the russians we are willing talk about the things they think are necessary without putting anything on paper yet. and they were telling europeans

and training you're not going to have a veto over whether there are negotiations or not. at the right time will be part of this process. >> are just you want to ask questions (202)748-8001. you can text questions or comments.