in previous budgeteds, we'll say, we'll fix thoings. the spending is back in place. could you respond to that? >> i think on the discretiona discretionary -- if you look at d.o.d. as an example, they put together a budget. it results in a 1 krs half of our agencies have flat or negative spending in 13 versus and. so this is a budget that has a lot of spending control. and at the end of the day, the bottom line, as i mentioned

earlier, is we're down in 2003 to, significant progress, not where we need toug. we need to bez thout we're on t right path. >> but you've adjusted the baseline which allows you to make the claims interest onears. let's forget about the percentages and alm of the arguments that have been made, reducing how can rat say, more spending he proposed than the same 3013 budget. you'd have to go back and benchmark those numbers. i don't have them in front of

me. i can tell you this is a very tight tlgts. and it has us making a lot of tradeoffs. i think the most powerful data point here -- >> prevent lynn clear. in the fall, he was not able to come up with a proposal. >> i think your word was repes. what we think is bad policy, in the dod area, dat it would be replaced with balanced geoff sit rubbing. we've got to get it. no one wanted to sequester. >> the $1.2 tax.

b >> i can tell you i do have the numbers. two years ago it was 446. this year it's 501. the same thing is happening. the budget proposals go up the year that we really are doing the budgeting. >> mike crapo is a republican senator and the here are some numbers for you courtesy of u.s. debt clock.org. the deficit this year expect ed. the overall national debt now at $15.3 trillion. so turning that into what it means for every, it would cost $48, and the debt on the debt is in chess of 12 thousand is to

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back in a minute with more "washington today." >> "washington today" is now available as a podcast. you can download each program individually at c-span.org or subscribe using itunes. access the c-span app or your mobile device. >> welcome back to "washington today." congressional republicans and democrats moving closer to an agreement to expend through the rest of this year. that payroll tax cut. it would also end result the conference committee saying ging

they would accept the payroll tax ex-attention without, the take roll tax cut, the impact that it has on those americans, especially middle-class americans, fravrm, if you make $50,000 a year would mean another $80 per month in your paycheck. >> over the past two years, our businesses have added over 3.7 million new jobs. our manufacturers are hiring more new workers to make more new things here in america than at any time since the 1990s. so our economy is growing stronger. and the last thing we need -- the last thing we can afford to do is to go back to the same policies that got us in this mess in the first place. the last sthing we need is for washington to stand in the way of america's comeback.

first and foremost, that means washington shouldn't hike taxes on working americans right now. that's the wrong thing to do, but that's exactly what's going to happen at the end of this month, in a couple of weeks, if congress doesn't do something about it. the payroll tax cut we put in place last year will expire. the typical american family will shell out nearly $1,000 more in taxes this year. you'll lose about $40 out of every paycheck if strong and it doesn't have to. congress needs to extend that tax and they need to do it now, without drama and without delay. no ideological sideshows to gum up the works.

no self- -- do it before it's too late, and i will sign it right away. the good news is over the past couple of days we've seen hopeful signs in congress that they realize that they've got to get this done. and you're starting to hear voices talk about how can we go ahead and make this happen in a timely way on behalf of the american people. that is good news. but as you guys know, you can't take anything for granted here in washington. until my signature is actually on it. so we've got to keep on making sure that the american people's voices keep breaking through. until this is absolutely finally completely done. until you see me sign this thing, you've got to keep on speaking up. until you see that photograph of

me signing it at my desk, make sure it's verified. certified. if it's not on the white house web site, it hasn't happened. and i'm going to need to make sure that your voices are heard. >> the president again pushing for this payroll tax cut, and the president referring to an agreement. but the reality is the agreement becoming a democrat and republican. something we talked about, he points out that john boehner and top republicans in both the house and the pl, appeif the ta cuts were not started. what happened last year when speaker boehner paid a political price.

for about two weeks as the republicans looked as if they were obstructing -- blocking essentially the kax preal shift inside their own thinking, and there was a moment, a chief of staff to a freshman republican who, you know, over that weekend and right before christmas on sunday, he had been telling me about how they were ready to fight, fight, fight. and when they had given into the democratic demands, he also said to me, well, i think we just learned our limitations. they don't control the whole place. they can't get everything they want. and i think there was a real -- they touched the stove right before christmas. and they got burnt. and they realized that for the first time. >> in fact, you write in "the washington post" that it was speaker boehner's worst

political crisis of his tenure. >> yes. tlut that w there was open public division between mcdonnell who had signed off on during the eric cantor who was wobbling back and forth very unsteppy. they're making the call again on the payroll tax cut here. i think they just want to get this rebond and then try and focus the rest of this on issues that are more in their wheelhouse. thoef gottconsidering where the

been since they're such the party of low taxes f. >> paul cane, you can catch him at washingtonpost.com.moats mov agreement that would extend the pay r a number of new polls out throughing one from cbc news has pulled ahead, 37% to 37%. in some polls show santorum ahead of romney and that is significant because michigan is the home state of romney. he was born and raised there. his dad served as governor of michigan. also ran more than motors in detroit. some new ads will begin with

mitt romney. sbroo w >> who has the chance to beat obama? rick santorum. he's rock solid on values issues, a favorite of the tea party for fighting corruption and taxpayer abuse. more foreign policy kre eshl cr than any candidate. his plans will make america an economic super power again. santorum, a conservative who gives us the chance to take back america. >> i'm rick santorum. >> i grew up in michigan. it was exciting. i remember going to the detroit auto shoel. and its leaders and unions get in such a -- all of these things the liberals wanted us to do for years, home values collapsing, people here i want to make.

>> i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. >> the latest from the campaigns. and clearly from time to time. on the same day that michigan voters go to the polls, there's a garelated story. name he lifted the republicans into the majority for the first 40 years. has living in march, also campaigning heavily in arizona hoping to pull off an upset in that state. here's the latest from the campaign from newt gingrich.org. >> 2012 is the most important election in this country since 1860.

next year we will decide whether the disastrous policies of class warfare, bureaucratic socialism, radical judges, and bureaucrats who treat us as subjects rather than citizens. will be continued in office. or whether we'll decisively repudiate an 80-year drift to the left, a drift in our newsrooms, a drift in our colleges and universities, a drift with our judges and a drift among elected politicians. and it takes you to be with me, not just for me, because all of us are going to have to make it happen. thank you. good luck and god bless you. >> one of those web video ads from the newt gingrich campaign. and by the way, you can follow the campaign on c-span's site

for poll ficks at c-span.org/campaign2012. we want to take a step back and look at one issue santorum is being asked about, and that is his loss in 2006 when he was running for a third term in the u.s. senate. some background, santorum is from western pennsylvania. he served two terms in the house of representatives, then went on to serve two terms in the u.s. senate losing by 18 percentage points in 2006. terry madonna is writing about this, and we'll hear from him in just a moment. he's a professor at a pennsylvania-based college. let's go back to november of 2006 as rick santorum conceding the race to bob casey. >> we also stood up in this campaign, and we didn't back away from any of those principles or the most important one that we talked about, and that is -- and that is we didn't back away from the great threat that confronts this country from overseas. we stood up.

and as all the political pundits maybe correctly now were saying, why did you go out and talk about those unpopular things like the war, or why didn't you talk about things like future threats like venezuela and north korea and iran? why didn't you do that? why didn't you talk about the things that you accomplished? it's because those are things in the past. and what senators and leaders are supposed to do is talk about things that our country confronts in the future. and i did. and i'm very proud. i do not rescind a word because those words are words that this country was not receptive to hear tonight. but they are going to continue to hear them from me and i assure you from many others as that threat beings more clear and hopefully our country is called to action to stop that threat before it becomes too serious a threat to the future of our country.

>> the comments santorum concfe in 2006. joining us with some perspective on this race is terry madonna. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> as you look at that race, since the romney campaign have been going after rick santorum, what are the lessons? >> i think there are several. it's obvious santorum ran in a horrific year for republicans. it was the iraq war election. democrats were much more enthusiastic than republicans. that's probably the overriding reason. it was, as we call, a wave election. the democrats in pennsylvania picked up four new congressional seats. they won control of the state house, something that they had not done since 1992 in pennsylvania, so it was a remarkably good year for democrats. the second reason is that santorum ran into a buzz saw.

he ran into, you know, an iconic brand name in pennsylvania politics and bob casey, jr., bob casey, jr.'s father, of course, had been a popular two-term governor who left office with a high rating and the respect of pennsylvanians by the million. then young bob casey went on to be elected auditor general of the state twice and elected in 2004 to the state treasurer's post becoming the largest vote getter in the history of the state. so he ran, then, in a sense to just a brand name, a moest iconc figure is certainly his dad, his family, and that was a tough spot for senator santorum. the third, i think, has to do with how santorum in the late '90s and the early part of the new century began to emphasize

social and cultural issues. when santorum was elected to congress in 1990, he was elected primarily because he beat a long-term incumbent democrat arguing that that democrat -- that walgren had become a washington insider that didn't even maintain a residence in this state, who voted for seven pay raises during his tenure and he completely lost touch. in 1994, he ran as a reformer, mostly emphasizing fiscal matters in reform. he was members of the gang of seven that took on the house bank scandal and he was part of newt gingrich's movement that ultimately led to the contract with america and the republican sweeping into both houses of congress. santorum elected to the senate emphasizing government and fiscal reform matters. by the late '90s and into the 21st century, he had really

started to emphasize social issues, abortion. later on as we moved towards the middle of the first decade, gay rights, and that hurt him among independent voters in pennsylvania, particularly those voters that lived in the philadelphia suburbs and up in the lehigh valley. you know, the important voters in our state that usually determine collections. many of these are college-educated women, and santorum continued to thrust toward the social issues, and quite frankly turned voters off. then last week he got trapped in a series of problems that appeared to make him be -- appear to be a hypocrite. he himself had taken up residence in virginia, maintaining what he said was a home in allegheny county in the north hills, but when reporters checked on it, it didn't look like anyone was living there, and then he had a residency

problem very similar to the walgren problem which the casey campaign used very effectively. and the second problem was his kids were going to a pennsylvania cyberschool collecting tuition as though they were pennsylvania residents for that, and that also became part of the controversy. so in conclusion, he ran into, you know, about four of these areas that i just articulated that simply were overwhelming, and by his loss by 18 percentage points by bob casey, that was the single biggest loss by any incumbent in the history of the state since the civil war. >> so as you look at what happened in 2006 and what the romney campaign has been saying thus far and likely will say moving into michigan, what political ammunition do his opponents have in 2012? >> well, i think -- first of all, they can hope that one of the things that santorum has done, look, he's a very bright guy, he's articulate, he's

savvy, he's -- understands politics. he's ambitious, he's aggressive. he's done extraordinarily well in these debates which independent analysts usually ranked him among the best of the debaters in a year in which debates have mattered. he does have a tendency, however, to get unplugged, to say things as he did recently about women and emotions and whether they should be in the front line -- you know, in combat. there is always the possibility that he will go unplugged, you know, and say something that creates controversy for him, but he's been remarkably disciplined today. maybe the best line of attack for the romney campaign, and i fully expect we will see this, is the fact that he is a big government conservative. that while he was a senator, he certainly was not reluctant, not reticent, to bring home millions of dollars of government

largesse to the state. and i think they'll probably sp spiff through the congressional record, see if the money that was spent could be considered wasteful or not in the public interest, so i think we're going -- we could well see that aspect to emphasize during the course of the campaign, and that may be the best line of attack, which is to argue that he's just a big government conservative. the other aspect is that he did endorse arlen specter. arlen specter is a moderate pennsylvania republican who switched parties when he ran for reelection in 2010, went from being a republican to a democrat because, in my polls and others, it was clear he was not going to win the republican primary against the ultimate u.s. senate victor in pennsylvania, pat toomey. so they might make something of that endorsement, but i don't think that has, you know, legs, so to speak. i think it will be largely the

government spending largess, the pork, the earmarks. think they'll go down that road and see what they can locate. >> professor terry madonna at franklin & marshall college in pennsylvania. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. the trivia question, what was the 48th state? it is arizona. today arizona celebrating its 100th anniversary on this date, february 14, 1912. arizona shed its five-decade status as a u.s. territory. it became the last state in the contiguous united states, and jan brewer, who is the governor of arizona outside the old capital in phoenix, commemorating this anniversary. >> good morning to all of you on this beautiful, glorious day that we're celebrating. the day we celebrate arizona's 100th year of statehood. i'd like to begin by reading

from a proclamation i signed officially designating this day, the 14th day of february, 2012 as arizona centennial day, which says in part, whereas 100 years ago today, on february 14, 1912, after nearly 49 years as a united states territory and thousands of years as a sacred home to native people, arizona became the 48th and last of the contiguous states to enter the union of the united states of america. whereas, arizona continues to be recognized for its cultural and natural beauty. a high quality of life and its innovation in all fields,

including agriculture, science and technology, optics, aerospace and defense, renewable, alternative and solar energy, bioscience, health care and vibrant small businesses. whereas, the beginning of the second century of statehood offers some opportunity for all arizonans to envision the future and strive for new achievements in education, innovation, economic development and social well-being for the people of arizona. now, therefore, i, janice k. brewer, governor of the state of arizona, by the virtue of the authority vested in me by the constitution and the laws of the state hereby proclaim the 14th