have federal education. of course, this would be a huge change in the country if we have federal education. since we're talking about the future, i think that it's something that we should finally come to. what you expect from that. if a federal government makes a mistake, all the german students are affected by the federal mistake. it's better if the state is making a mistake, it affects less people. >> translator: as long as i'm a chancellor, we can talk about mistakes of course on the federal government that i was -- when we move from one state to the other, there's no equivalency? >> yes, we don't have equivalency between states. when you move from one state to the other, you have a different

school system. and curriculum has changed. and when a new party takes power in the state -- so costs a lot of money. i think we can save tons if we had uniform education system. uniform for the whole of germany with one source of experts who could tell us what to do in the future. that would encourage informationment i'm taking your advice, but of course we have to talk with the different states and civalency for a start. okay. >> next? >> and you complain also that education is changing. there's a new program every day. well, not every day. but it is true that the curriculum is always changing. and it's not always very useful.

and i think what's important is to take care of the local conditions. yes, they decided to keep the same curriculum for ten years. at least one generation is not going through constant changes and it's not an all new curriculum. it has to do with living together in the school system. >> translator: you look this way. you over there. in the back there. in the back. let's not forget the people in the back. in the front then, we're going to go to the back over there. i have prepared a little speech written. well, written was not so good. leave your paper aside. just talk. talk without your paper. no, no, it's better for me if i

can read my paper because i worked on it. it's very complex. i cannot truly say without my paper. i'm an architect. i spent the first half of my life in india and second half of my lif how do we want to live together in the future? the family will decide on the future of our society. for 7 million children, there's a risk to live in an life. there's 4 million out of wedlock children and 3 million illegal children. and we're not taking into account the reality. we should have a law that takes into account the quality of

parenting. and also we should encourage the parents to be parents. i have a model that i would like to propose to you. number one, the heart of the family in my model is a new law for parents and giving rights to the children and equal rights to the parents and the children. number three. we should have philosophy that ensures that we maintain children's rights. then the role of the family should be at the heart of society. we should give optimum living conditions to the family. the children must be protected within their family also. the old laws only protected 2

million children. and i think that we should use my model that would protect 14 million family communities and that would cover the 7 million of children who are not covered now. the chancellor, i know that a lot of people have thought approximate that. but i would like to send you a whole proposal to the parties of the coalition to help them with the drafting of laws and i would like for you to support my proposal for this model, and for this i need support from the experts who are on top over there. >> translator: goodment send that to me. i think this is a complex theme that takes care of a lot of people and touches a lot of

people. it's true that life has changed. a lot of the situations. but it's good to cover the children and the parents. but we only have 100 people, we only have 90 minutes. we don't have a whole lot of time for everybody. it's children. okay. let's go on. thise next to the gentleman with the very nice mustache. the lady that i'm talking to. >> i think it is well-known that large families no longer exist. and what we should encourage is houses where we can gather generations. we should do a lot more about that. we should make it public now.

we should give every town, every city a home for several generations to meet. >> translator: is this the most important subject for the future? >> translator: yes. i see very often that old people are living alone but they have such a huge potential. they could communicate so much to the new generation. and there are people who are idle. i think where to go, where could young experience the skills of the old people. this could really change their attitude and old people could be very active. no, no. i agree with you. we have had a good experience with the homes for several general races. but it's not everywhere in germany. it could take place in town hall

or -- we have thought about it. as you said, perhaps it shouldn't be part and parcel of the administration of whether local or regional but what we need perhaps is that we probably need a citizen home where the citizen could get together. i would be in favor of that. a home to gather several generations, i think, yeah, that could be good. we could do something both for the old and the young. i'm quite in favor of that. of course, we have to think about that. still on the family. anybody wants to add about families? yes? good evening. greetings from my daughter. you are a strong woman.

my problem is that we should no longer split families. i'm working on the construction job. i have to commute between the east and the west. of course, it takes a huge amount of time. also, in west germany our wage is 13 euros. in east germany it's 10 euros an hour. right now, east and west are not equal. if you paid only ten euros an hour, this is not a whole lot. you can't live with that. so for the same job, in the same industry, we should be paid the same. so that we don't have to commute between east and west all the time. [ applause ] the time. you're making the proposals.

and, of course, you know that i don't make the policy in terms of wages. it's between the employers and unions. but it is true. there's pressure now to bring the wages at the same level of east and west. it's true. commuting is a big challenge for families. and how much time you have left for your family if you keep commuting on free throw way every day. and leaving at 3:00 a.m. on monday. i mean, of course, nobody pays my commuting. i'm at 7:00 on construction and i leave the site at 7:00 p.m. and i have three or four more hours commuting and my daughter is in bed. yeah, my daughter, fortuna thtu is grown up. and i'd like to ask a question

about generation. we are saying that people don't have children. but i have another problem that is to say it would be good to live in the countryside. it would be better to raise children. but the children need adults in the countryside to take them everywhere, to sports, to the doctors and, of course, the old people also have to be taken to the doctor. and the road infrastructure is not there for them. yes. so the second person was talking about that. it's an important topic for us. here we promise to go on this side. my lord, you almost took the words out of my mouth when you said that you were saingle father. i'm director of grandparents

service. we have 8,000 old people and we have a lot of single mothers also. and i see that these people are falling through the safety net after a while. because they have to work part time. they work 22 hours a week, for instance. and, therefore, the children of single mothers fall under the poverty line. the women cannot make it anymore. so we should take care of that aspect of the family. what do you propose? >> i think that we should have a social net that is stronger. we are trying to protect single mothers. we guarantee childcare with old people. and we are trying to find volunteers who could spend eight to ten hours a day with

childcare. but it's almost impossible. and so the poverty spiral starts for single mothers. and you were saying the children are our future. but we should really mean it. and the fathers, the fathers, the last part? the grandparents? no, we have 44 grandparents who are very active. and how many fathers are helping? two. so perhaps we could make a little bit more publicity for your volunteer group. yes? no. i just want to look. it's always the same in this type of meeting. some people come just to look, to watch. this gentleman here.

thank you very much. it's our future. we have to follow the swedish model. they do a lot more for children. there are so many social services given to families that the children are now living in socially secure conditions. we don't have that. we don't have that. otherwise we're going to lose all the innovations of the future if you don't take care of our children. so you think that the children go hand in hand with the restructure? yes. we have to restructure education, the place of parents and they need socially secure relations. we have to finance more the parents and especially single

parents. yes, we all agree children are the future and we'll have less children in the future. therefore, it is very important to give the right education to children if you want to have them as good innovators, for instance. no. no. we'll have more children, not less children. yes. in the future we'll have more children. but right now we have to say that there are less and less young people to be clear. this lady and then the lady next to her. you talk about education. i'd like to talk about education outside of school and talk about the continuity of education projects. because it is becoming useless.

we have a project for a year. then we want to extend the project for another year. and either they change the content or the budget is no longer there. so i think our projects for continuous education should be much longer than one year. what would be the ideal time? two years? three years? what would be your -- >> no, i don't think we can say that globally. but i think at least three or four years and especially if we want to be useful and if we want these projects to have any action. i'm taking note of that. we discussed that also with the government. we have to see what works and what hasn't worked. of course, after a year you can't see anything. but after three, four, five years, and also we must have the courage to see to it that what

has not worked is stopped, is canceled. and in our society that is very, very difficult. otherwise, it all piles up. perhaps you. one or two. please the mike. i live in germany for seven years. i would like to go back on children. we need to have more children. i think we are scared to have children. we're scared to have a lot of children because immediately people think about poverty, think about small housing, normal freedom. this is because of ideas we have in our mind. we want to have this and that for the state. no. i think we have to start having another image, starting with the media, having a lot of children

is good. and, for instance, look at smoking. through the media, through publicity, we manage to cut down a huge number of smokers. smoking is no longer cool. perhaps we could do the same thing with having more children. you're talking about a very important point. how can we change society if we have five, seven children, we should scare society. you know, makes noise in the restaurants and i don't want to live in an apartment next to a family with so many kids. can i keep my career if i have so many children? no, you're right. myself, i come from a very large family. we were ten people in my family.

one left the family since. but we live in one apartment on two floors. and we have tried to overcome all the problems. but, of course, it's not easy. it's difficult to find an apartment. it's a lot of difficulties we have as a large family. but at home, i mean, we don't have any problems because we have so many children. it's the opposite. it's very nice. we have parties and family gatherin gatherings. we have more fun. >> but, of course, if people see that you have so many kids, people are scared, right? >> yes. that's true. so you would like for society to say great, large family. congratulations? >> yes, of course. but i think it's too bad that some people are saying, no, i'd like to have no children or to

be single. it's too bad. children are great. what kind of future could we have if we have no more children, of course? i don't plan on it right now. i'm a christian. i'm a sportsman. i do handicap sport. but i think we're really behind in handicap people freedom. there are many projects. but we don't see them applied. and i think that we should do around that another way. we should make more efforts about that. we have a lot of money. we're a rich country. we see what's happening in other countries. it's not done yet. and you see a whole lot of older people, too, who have limited

freedom because of their age. and what's your problem on the daily basis? in many stores kint gi can't ge. the doors are too narrow. when twunt you want to go to th public toilets, you can't get in. when there is a sports event, you can't go to the toilet. you can't go through the door. and i think that in germany we should see abroad what other countries are doing. and, of course, we are a huge amount of regulation. but they're not all applied. i take note of that. and unfortunately take it to ten years before the law is fully translated and applied. i think we made a lot of progress. i take note. it's a wonderful subject.

and next week i'm going to talk to the handicap council. but you're right. you're right. it's not only for the handicap. it's for the old people who have the same problem very often. when you see how hard it is to cross the street, for instance, what kind of sports are you doing? i'm doing wheelchair basketball. i mean the federal league. the first league. i train seven time a week. i play on the weekend. i could talk about other topics. let's leave it at that, handicap freedom. i'll follow that. other advice?

right now i'm working in textile facto factory. my problem is the basis for good living together in society. that is to say, we should have jobs for everybody according to their skills. and it is very important for us to talk about the made in germany. my fear for the future, it's not quite there yet. but in the future, if you look at our industry, we're going to stick maybe germany tag on products that are made of raw. so we should go back to innovation, with new technology. we should start from the bottom up and create new jobs so that we can have more employment.

and we no longer have to pay unemployment allowances the way we do now. so people would earn money again and with wages they couldn't live with. and so we could get rid of this humungous amount of money that we pay for unemployment, people who have self value and have a job. and that will be the basis for the next ten years. and i'm sure you could have an influence on that. it's a problem that we're talking about a great deal. of course we are also talking about specialized skills. a lot of people are building machines, for instance. but you also have people who are not rocket scientists on the other hand. so it's always difficult to find a job that we need. i hope that through

globalization, if you look at china and other places, their wages are going to go up and up. and so we're going to come to a better balance. how can we retain jobs? of course, that's a big question for us. but for you, your industry is doing well? no. no. i know that we're all going to do well. i know it. i talk with several leaders. we talked about all this. it is possible to re-create jobs. i heard the young lady talk about education. and i've been dealing with education since the beginning of my life. but i have a wish.

i think that very often people who are independent do not have the same working conditions as volunteers as the administration. and so i think that independent people should be encouraged to be independent. and, therefore, continuity is a challenge. and look at, for instance, the cultural scene. you have a lot of people who do theater, who do dancing, who do poetry. all these people are independent. and not a whole lot sin veis in in these people. i think this is going to be bad for our descendents for the children if we neglect culture. there's a great potential for young people. i think we should encourage music, musicians and other

people. so give more latitude to people who are independent. well, culture should be encouraged. otherwise, we're not going to be a cultural nation. so i think culture should not be compulsory. but everybody, of course, can be in culture. but you're right. you're absolutely right. a country that neglects its culture can no longer claim to be cultural. this is true. the lady in the front? and then we'll go on the other side. i work in school. i think for education we should dedicate ourselves much more on theory and practice and i think that we should send our children

to old folks home and in places where there are lots of handicap people. so they get to know the old and the handicapped. and so, perhaps, i think people would have better values. so that people would learn to live together with different people instead of being scared or fear them. and also the old no longer fear the young. and so people say i don't know what to do with these old folks or these handicapped. it should be part and parcel of our education if we want to live together. yes, we should send these people more for practice than spend so much time in theory. i'm an old guy so i need so sit

down, i'm sore yimery. we must sit at some point. i'm 12 years old. and i go to school. i think we should spend more time with our family. and we could also save energy and so, for instance, we should play games with the family instead of watching television. so we do both. >> good idea. or you could decide that one day you no longer need facebook nor course, is going to be part and parcel. >> you should spend more time together rather than watching tv and having foreign ideas your head, yes. on this side, i think. thank you.