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to pile inference upon inference in order to see the connection between the conduct being regulated and the enumerated power. and i guess fourth, does that even if all of those apply does it conflict with any other provision of the constitution. and so you know i want to get pack in some ways to what randy said about the calm stock decision when he said at the end of that opinion there are some narrowing factors on the court's endorsement of the necessary and proper clause and it's otherwise sweeping power. i think that those narrowing -- that narrowing part of the decision is there because in comstock that chain that i just discussed was much more a10 waited than it is. so comstock was about using federal law to detain dangerous sex offenders after they served
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their time in prison. so that power, when you link it back to the enumerated power, you have to say, okay civil commitment is necessary to enforce federal criminal laws. i'm sorry no i made it even closer than it is. that goes back to the federal government's authority to run prisons. the federal government's authority to run prisons is then related to the federal government's power to enact criminal laws. but those of you who know the constitution know that's not in there. so then we get back to okay what allows congress to impose criminal laws. that's the federal government's ability to do things like establish post offices and you know, patent laws. so things that are violations of those powers can be made criminal. so you have a much more a10ten10
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waited step. so i think that's an important thing to remember when we talk about how broad or narrow comstock is. that chain of necessary and proper and enumerated power is pretty attenuated in comstock. i think this case is easier than comstock when it comes to necessary and proper. >> first of all, there's bad news i've got for you and that's aftease by a 6-3 vote, congress has regulate any activity that is deemed to be economic, including the growing of a plant in your backyard for your own consumption. >> well, not just any plant. >> well it could be any. >> the plant is tied to a national market. >> any plant that was tied to a policy could be regulated. it can pretty much reach any activity it wants, whether it's economic under the majority opinion or noneconomic under
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justice scalia's concurring opinion. however, there is still a line that none of us really imagined when the rage case was decided because nobody had previously thought to do this and that is not only to say that you can't grow marijuana or that if you're going to grow marijuanarow it but that you must grow marijuana. i mean there's -- the same sweeping scope that can reach all of those kinds of activities now says that you have to do any one of those activities so long as we deem it in our own discretion to be essential to our interstate scheme of regulation of something completely different, let's say. so that would be a tremendous increase in federal power over the already tremendous power that the federal government currently has. >> well i'm afraid that's all the time we have. please join our panelists upstairs for lunch after this. rest rooms also are downstairs and upstairs. we'll resume in exactly an hour. please join me in thanking our panelists.
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they're released, expected to be around 1:00 p.m. eastern. listen here on c-span 3, c-span radio and c-span.org. some news from the white house today as president obama nominated dartmouth college president jim yong kim to be the next president of the world bank. mr. kim previously headed up the world health organization's hiv/aids department and before that earned a degree from brown university and an md from harvard. and we've got more from the road to the white house coming up today with vice president biden. he's in florida to talk about medicare. watch that live at 12:15 p.m. eastern on our companion network, c-span. in march of 1979, c-span began televising the u.s. house of representatives to households nationwide. and today our content of affairs nonfiction books and american history is available on tv radio and online. >> when we put that force
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together to go to desert storm, i viewed every one of those youngsters as somebody that i had a personal responsibility for. i know that general schwarzkopf felt the same way. we knew they were going into a very dangerous conflict, perhaps, and we wanted to give them every benefit to allow them to come home safely. i'm as distressed, more distressed than any member of this committee could ever be that there are veterans who are suffering illnesses that may have been a result of their service in the gulf. i do not know if those illnesses are a result of the service in the gulf or not, but i think we have to keep that as an operating hypothesis until we find out otherwise. we have to get to the bottom of this to find out what the source of the illnesses were. >> c pif-span, created as a public service. this year marks queen elizabeth ii's 60th anniversary
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to the throne. she delivered an address to parliament as part of her diamond jubilee celebrations. it included speeches by the house of loaders and house of commons. in addition both houses presented the queen with a gift a stained glass window, set to be installed above the north door of westminster hall later this year. hugh edwards hosted this one-hour program. the queen will arrive here at westminster welcomed by senior parliamentary figures. it is not of course the formal launch of jubilee events. they started last month in february to mark the 60th anniversary of the queen's accession back in 1952. the only other monarch in british history to celebrate a
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diamond jubilee was queen victoria, but let me say there was no loyal visit to westminster then. paurl men tear januarys were summoned to buckingham palace. and no better stage or setting for the queen's address later this morning. the oldest part of the palace westminster hall. it is the setting for some of the biggest occasions sad and joyful, in the history of the united kingdom. and before long we'll be joined here by the lord speaker for the house of lords and the speaker of the house of commons. they will each present their addresses to the queen and then following that her majesty will then reply. proceedings to be watched by members of both houses of parliament, including when he arrives, the current prime minister david cameron and two of the 12 prime ministers who have served during the kweepqueen's
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reign. so we have the deputy primary here former deputy of the labor party. tony blair who served as prime minister for a decade. that's the speaker's wife and gordon brown who had three years at number 10 many years at number 11 as chancellor and sarah brown here too. and there's a busy man in the second row, george osbourne who tomorrow will be delivering his third budget to the house of commons. he is here with his wife. and they are sharing a joke but tomorrow i suspect we won't be seeing any of those smiles when the chancellor answers the budget speech. in his own time there is the formal response. so very good morning. welcome to the river room, we're just a few yards away from the river. it is a few feet away from the
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house of lords. this is where we'll be following the morning's events. i have two expert guides with me. delighted to welcome the royal commentator and author robert hardiman whose book "our queen" has been a best seller and kate williams. delighted to have you with us. >> good morning. >> thank you both very much. well, it's a formal event but it's marking a very formal thing, a very special and rare event in fact a diamond jubilee. >> a diamond jubilee is quite extraordinary. as you said, we've only had one before in history. the tone and the pace of that one was very different than this one. this is history unfolding before us. this is one of the great set piece occasions of the jubilee. there will be tours up along the country, great scenes out on the river coming up in the summer with the river pageant and a pop concert outside the palace but at the same time you're going to have big event like today. >> kate, really it's a chance -- it's parliament's chance to say
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thank you to her majesty. >> exactly. this is the moment -- because the queen is going to tour all over the country and see so many of her loyal this is parliament's chance to speak to the queen and express their gratitude. she said herself she thinks parliament is the best place to make this great formal occasion because she seize herself as a great constitutional monarch. >> we'll be back with you in a second. as i mentioned it is the sixth time that the queen has made a special address to both houses of parliament. i'm not talking about the state opening of parliament which was an entirely different thing which happens virtually every year, but some of you certainly will remember a similar occasion a decade ago and some of us even remember the silver jubilee back in 1977. >> the commonwealth prime ministers. >> the queen in a very paille
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blue, princess margaret. >> this hall has been the scene of so many events splendid or somber which have marked the course of our i cannot forget that i was crowned queen of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland. >> three cheers for her majesty the queen. hip, hip hip. >> hurray! salute with pride the valor of our armed forces who brought us to victory. we remember the dark days of the battle of britain, when the pilots of the royal air force fought in our skies to protect us from invasion.
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>> edward heath there, prime blair. >> i would like to express my pride in our past and my confidence in our future. i would like above all to declare my resolve to continue with the support of my family to serve the people of this great nation of ours to the best of my ability through the changing times ahead. >> well, there we are, a flavor of past events in westminster hall. it's fair to say robert and kate, not without an element of controversy. i certainly remember all the coverage back in 1977 when the debate was raging at the time. in fact the queen went out of her way in that speech to say i was here i came to the throne --
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>> i cannot forget. >> are we likely to see any controversial contribution today or not? >> i suspect probably not. different jubilees have a different tone different atmosphere. i think in '77 it was quite an edgy time an certainly her remarks, i cannot forget that i was crowned queen of the united kingdom. that certainly rais hackles in scotland. i think this time it is a different time. you saw ten years ago at the golden jubilee a very somber occasion. it was only a matter of weeks after the death of the queen mother, just after 9/11. this time i think it will be a happier, more confident setting. >> the prime minister just taking his place in westminster hall and will be joining other cabinet colleagues just crossing some of the senior clergy there, including the bishop of london and taking his
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place. kate, we were just mentioning elements of controversy, potential controversy. again, do you think that the address today will be used to deliver a precise message about something or will it be more to take stock after 60 remarkable years? >> yes, i agree with robert actually. i just think today is a very different type of jubilee. this is her at the high water mark of her popularity it really is. since the coronation really since her wedding. when you look at 2002 there wasn't much coverage of the jubilee at all. now there's no contest, it's almost like the jubilee is even bigger than the olympics it's so popular. i think that she really is going to be looking back on her great reign. we are a nation of change and transition, she stressed that in every speech. it seems incredible in 1977 that she said we've got to get used to no longer being an imperial power now. imagine that now, the concept that we would see ourselves
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having an empire. it's a completely different country she's reigning over. she is incredibly popular now an i think she's looking back on 60 years of success. >> the guaranteed theme today will be links with the commonwealth and the value the queen places on that relationship. >> the commonwealth to her -- she didn't inherit it she built it herself she created it from eight nations when she came to the throne today. today it's 54 nations, it means an awful lot so i'm quite sure we'll hear something about that. >> and really to explore the theme, we've seen remarkable images of prince harry on a trip to jamaica, for example. what we see here really despite the fact there's a very big debate about the future of some of these countries in the commonwealth, we saw well, one of the grandchildren on the world stage making a point in quite some style. >> very much so. that was a great example of how the younger generation are doing it their way. the queen is still head of state of 16 countries including this
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one, a large part of the earth's surface. of course there will be debates but you can see the underlying warmth that exists between families and the royal family. >> you can't buy that kind of pr really. >> i think it's important because her father saw hils as the king of empire. the queen sees her as the queen of commonwealth. she really has been the most traveled monarch. it's incredible her touring around the country and it's brilliant to see the younger royals to take that over. >> a commonwealth theme, i think that will be very firmly underlined in the address. let's have a look inside westminster hall. we've seen the prime minister take his place. and his place is secure of course in that front row. if we look across the aisle, we see a very interesting group of people there. we saw the archbishop of kant canterbury there. now we have the bishop of
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london. very interesting to see the bishop of london here today because a few days ago we learned the archbishop will step down in december and lots of people are mentioning the bishop of london as a possible successor, so interesting to see them both sitting within a few feet of each other. then if we look at the other side of that group of people just to the left there, we see the archbishop of york who for lots of people is the front runner for that succession so he is chatting to lord mcnally, there, so they're all in that block and it's interesting. it's not just politics to do with party here, robert, it's politics to do with the church as well. >> well, westminster everyone loves a leadership challenge. i'm not sure how they expected it to be -- >> there they are they're mingling and chatting there. lord faulkner of course a former lord chancellor.
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if we just look behind them, we can see other members of the cabinet too on the other side. oh, there's a very familiar face. that's michael martin lord martin now former speaker of the commons at a very turbulent time and left the chair in 2009. baron ess standing to greet her successor as lord speaker. the lord speaker's procession is under way. lord speaker, of course, is a position that didn't exist a decade ago when the golden jubilee was being celebrated. but it is now a position where you have the lord speaker representing the house of lords in effect an ambassador for the house of lords and presiding at sessions of the house of lords where the lord chancellor did before. principal door keeper leading the way, keith phipps. then we have the deputy sergeant
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of arms. and then we have the lord speaker herself baroness desouza who was elected last summer, in june of last year. followed by the clarks and the assistants and then the gentleman of the black rod who's at the end of this procession just coming up the stairs now. david leaky. he's the ban realman who's really been in charge of the practical arrangements for this event today. now let's just -- there's blackrod. now let's just look at the placing of the mace on the stand because a little later on we will see the mace being covered by the red velvet cloth and that is for a special reason. the mace is there to symbolize
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the sovereignty and authority of the queen in this case. because of the queen's presence, that symbol will no longer be required. so it will be covered. the next procession about to get under way, it is the speaker's procession representing the house of commons led by the principal door keeper, robin fell, and then the sergeant at arms carrying the mace. group captain michael navrinsky and a glimpse there of the speaker himself, who's been speaker now for nearly three years. at times he was a controversial figure certainly not afraid to deal robustly with matters from the chair. re-elected after the election of 2010. very polished public speaker and i'm sure that his contribution
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today will be noted for the fluency that he's developed in his time in parliament. the same pattern on this side of the aisle because the mace will be rested. when the queen arrives a little later on we will catch a glimpse of the green cloth in this case being used to cover the mace to symbolize the queen's presence. if we look at the vast crowd in westminster hall today there is one man in particular who has a special interest in today's proceedings, because he is michael ellis, a conservative mp, chairman of the old parliamentary group for the queen's diamond jubilee. he's the one who persuaded members to dig deep into their pockets and contribute i think
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85,000 pounds for a gift. and the gift is a new stained glass window as a diamond jubilee gift for the queen. it will be formally unveiled a little later on but we can give you a sneak preview because we visited the studio in north london where it was made. >> the stained glass was something that we thought would work well. it came about because in 1977 the house of commons then got together and organized a phantom below big ben for the queen's silver jubilee. and in 2002 for the golden jubilee, a sun dial was put in near the house of lords. but it looked as though nothing was in the pipeline about 15 months ago for the queen's diamond jubilee as a gift from members of both houses. >> here's a unicorn which is looking pretty gorgeous really. >> it is looking splendid. i like the way it looks a bit fierce. it's supposed to, isn't it? >> it's supposed to. you don't want to mess with
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these things. it's a wild animal. >> this is a very traditional technique. it hasn't changed for 800 years. you take two pieces of glass and join them with a piece of lead. it's like a jigsaw puzzle. when you're banging a nail in if you slip, you can break the glass and that's really not what's needed at this point in time. >> once you cut that, you paint it. in this case we painted all of these a minimum of three times. it's gone into the kiln three times, been fired three times and the gold is the next section, which is a silver oxide stain. >> you'll be able to see in the light there, see the gorgeous golden color you get with the stain. >> the effect of the green as a background. >> it makes the colors stand out
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more. they shout more. >> you want the colors to come out more. >> that's magnificent. also quite heavy. >> yes. let's put it down now. >> well, like all good presents, we're keeping this under wraps from her majesty. and in a short time when it's unveiled will be the very first occasion that her majesty will see it. >> well there you are, you've seen it already. it will be unveiled a little later on. that's the light box which will house the window for the next year to allow visitors to westminster hall to see it when they pass through the hall. eventually it will be installed in the window above the north door. it will be in that central panel there so it will be in a very, very prominent position and directly facing the south window. coat of arms of the queen's father, king george vi. the south window, which really is magnificent installed in 1952 to commemorate those
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members of parliament and parliamentary staff who lost their lives in the second world war. and this completes a kind of symmetry if you like which dates back to the days of henry viii because when he refashioned the hall there were two great windows facing each other north and south. so when the new window goes in on the north side, we will have that symmetry re-established. the ceremony is continuing inside the hall. the state trumpeters of the lifeguards joining us and taking their place underneath that great south window. and there we have the unmistakable white plumes of the gentleman at arms who joined us too inside westminster hall. one of the forms of royal bodyguard. and then lining the stairs left and right, we have the yeomen of the guard. they first made their appearance at the coronation of henry in
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october of 1485 some months after the battle of bozworth. so great tradition and great heritage and well known for the splendid uniforms that they wear dating all the way back to the late 15th century. the gentlemen at arms who are under the window, their uniforms of the officer of the 1840s, that famous red coat and of course bearing the long ceremonial battle axes too, over 300 years old. again, known as the nearest guard, another form of body fwaurd and guard and the captain is a politician. so you have a bit of an amalgam of military history and current political form. the thrones are in place and
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that's where the queen will be making her address. in response to the initial addresses by the lord speaker and the common speaker. so we're now in a position where we are awaiting the queen's arrival. a lot of thought, robert will have gone into the addresses by the lord speaker and common speaker because there will be themes that they want to draw out as well. >> they're on the center stage today, but obviously everyone is waiting to see what will the queen say. as you said this will be her sixth address here. it's a very interesting speech because we are used to the queen's speech in parliament and that's written by the government. this is very much her own words. her and her officials have gone through this. it's rather like her christmas
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