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florida is doing to try to stop prescription drug abuse. as the congressman told you to put it in perspective. of the top 100, oxycontin dealers in the country. 89 were in florida now we have 13. with legislation in effect barely a year. last year we had over 900 pain management the clinics registered within our state. today, we have 580. and i guarantee you, that number is going to continue to plummet. i want to outline now briefly, our comprehensive legislation and what we have done in our state. as you know, we have become the oxy-expre oxy-express. that's why i worked closely with general conway, and general dewine in ohio. what was happening people were buying their drugs in florida, taking them to kentucky. i had to hug a mother in kentucky when high was with
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general conway who lost her daughter two years ago to prescription drugs that were bought in florida. and that had to stop. so we passed with that, we passed tough new legislation in our state. we are very proud of that legislation. it was long, long, overdue. let me tell you that. the common characteristics of a pill mill in florida, little to no medical equipment at all, shelves and shelves of pills. these doctors we call drug dealers wearing white coats sitting in a back room signing prescription pads. and it was legal. and it was killing our kids. so we had, very weak regulatory oversight of the pain management clinics. we had limited oversights of physician whose were dispensing which was very important. and we had a nonoperational prescription drug monitoring program. so, with that -- we
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passed tough legislation, we are proud of that. one of the most important things to me. we banned doctors from dispensing, most abused narcotics. we made that a violation, of the ban. third degree penalty. and have you heard about a doctor, take their lice aense a. with the dispensing ban we feel we have been very successful as well. we created a standard of care for physicians, we required these doctors to either electronically prescribe or to use counterfeit proof prescription pads. none of which had been done unour stauin our state. we add enhanced criminal penalties that were very important and required all these pharmacies to be re-permitted by the state of florida. we did great things. we now have the pdmp up and
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running. if you have any questions i can discuss that with you as well. with that, we can create tough new laws and move on to something else. the but what we did in florida, with governor scott's help, we started a strike force. that's joint, with federal, state and local officials all working together. you can pass these laws and move on. it's not going to work. we are targeting these guys and we are putting them out of business. and with that, just -- we have seven strike forces through our state. if you have question as but the strike force i can explain that in greater detail. but what we have done since we have had the strike force, we have truly gone in and started putting these guys out of business. we are targeting them. we are not letting up on them. we also have an educational component of this legislation. and that involves narcotics ed nope. this task force, amazing,
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remarkable people have gone into our schools and educating our children about this. we have also instituted along with dea state drug take back days. i have participated, personally, in as many as i could. you would not believe the drugs that are being turned in. and it's gotten so successful that we plan on putting permanent drop boxes up at our police stations and our sheriffs offices as well. at two drug take back day as len -- days alone we seized five tons of prescription drugs. we are very pleased to announce, as of february 2012, our strike force efforts have resulted in 2,040 arrests. 34 of those are doctors. we have seized 390 weapons. almost $5 million. but there is one other problem. i have run out of time. that's the babies being born addicted to prescription drugs. and that is our newest fight this session. we are not going to give up on that.
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as well. thank you for all of your efforts. and we do know we have a long way to go but i don't think any of us in this room are going to stop. thank you. >> thank you very much. and general conway you are recognized for five minutes. >> well, thank you, chairwoman, and representative butterfield for your commitment to this issue. i want to recognize, the congressman, not here, a fellow kentuckian, who works on our drug task force on this issue. prescription drug abuse is the reality that touched the lives of just about every kentucky family. it touched my family's life in a very personal way. ravaged communities, shattered families, and it's fueled crime. depending which study you leave, kentucky is the third or fourth most medicated state in the entire country. the four you hear at the top of the list, kentucky, west virginia, tennessee, and oklahoma. last year in kentucky, we had over 1,000 people that we documented, died, from prescription painkiller overdoses.
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more than weep lo lost to auto . we actually think that is undertrort unde underreported. only half the people who die from overdoses are autopsied by medical examiner offices. when you talk a look at unnatural deaths in the commonwealth, of kentucky. last year, kentucky hospitals treated over 5,000 overdose paush e patients. an epidemic in the 1990s in eastern kentucky, a region of heavy industry, laborers, coal mines. we have more injury prone jobs. but also an area of economic depression. we had too many doctors who overprescribed. and too many people became hooked. because of the economic depression, people figured out they could sell their pills on the street. black market was born. today when you go through eastern kentucky which high do on a regular basis you will find that 80% of the crime according to law enforcement and pros s
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c -- prosecutors. it spread across the commonwealth. not just in eastern kentucky. according to a lexington herald study, not too long ago. 120 of our counties we, have total. 118 were up in the schedule two and three narcotics prescribed. i'm sad to report, estimates from law enforcement in the health care community say that we have only about 10% of the treatment beds that we need in the commonwealth of kentucky. you know, i am suck aick and tif losing a generation to prescription pill abuse. we start aid public education program for doctors and school children in kentucky. i travel around the commonwealth with two mothers from moorehead, kentucky who lost their daughters to prescription pill abuse. really important to get feel like that, who look like the mothers of the kids, to tell them their story. they will listen to an elected official for five minutes or so. when the mothers talk they really listen. here's what's disheartening.
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middle schoolers, highschoolers, okay. tell the truth. just because i am the attorney general tell the truth. how many of you have use aid prescription bill or best friends used it for an off label purpose. sad to report, 70%, or 80% of the hands go up. how many think prescription pills are easy to go? 70% or 80% of the hand will stay up. i will ask how many parents lock their medicine cabinets? all the hands go down. i realize not a problem that starts with grandma. in some instances particularly in kentucky an addiction starting in our homes. i have tried to do all i can. create the the state's first prescription pill task force, my drug investigators working with law enforcement. trying to collaborate, share resources in a time of dwindling law enforcement reforces. we participated in operation flamingo road. at that point we thought about 60% of our pills on our streets were coming from florida.
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they executed a search warrant on main -- pain management clinic. of the 1700, of the individuals they seized records, 1,100 are from the commonwealth of kentucky. that's what we in law enforcement call a clue. we had people by the van load going to kentucky to bring pills back. not only hap to have a friendship with general bondee, i an freightful s fulam gratefu. she said florida was home to 97, 98 of the top 100 proscribers. now down to 13. this issue knows no party. it is an american tragedy. we have entrepreneurs getting in the pill mill business. we need to stop them. we have mail order pharmacies shipping 90-day supplies of narcotics. i understand efficiency in our
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health care system that needs to be 30 days wecht ne. yes, we have casper, our pdmp, a good system. 25% of our doctors are using it. on top of that, those of us unlaw enforcement can't see the data to do the investigations. i would be happy to talk with you more about that. i have heard the questioning here today. i am out of time. i will wrap up. if you want to know what you can do to help, help us get all 50 states up with pdmps and systems that talk to one another. we can do our jobs if we get the systems up and running and get the doctors to use them. thank you very much for the opportunity to be up here. >> thank you, general conway. you are recognize ford fid for minutes. >> thank you, chairman, ranking member and distinguished members of this committee. i thank you on behalf of the ohio attorney general, mike dewine and ohio for the opportunity to address you today. as the chief assistant prosecutor and later elected
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prosecutor in adams county, ohio i had a front row seat for the devastation that this scourge can cause on a community. in february 2011, mike dewine recruited me to lead his prescription drug task force. attorney general dewine has been committed to using every resource ohio has to fight this scourge. and in hoip hohio we have taken nationwide stance in fighting back, changes in legislation, proactive law enforcement actions partnering with prescribers, dispensers and being proactive with awareness, education and treatment. through this effort, ohio has raised public awareness, increased public education, and improved ohio's investigations and prosecutions and in both criminal and regulatory cases. however, to make a real difference, we must limit the availability of prescription drugs to those individuals and actual need and in the proper quantities. in ohio, drug poisonings cost
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ohioans $3.6 billion annually. between the years of 1999 and 2007, ohio's rate of opioid distribution increased. ohio's drug death rate increased 305%. if you will look to my left see the remarkable correlation on the graph located closest off to the back of the room. in 1997, ohio averaged 7 doses of opioids per cap tachlt in 2010, our average dose of opioid per capita increased. in less than 15 years. ohio watched the average dose, increase almost 900%. the chart to my left, the closest off to the front of the room will illustrate, death rates during the current prescription drug scourge is hyper higher in ohio than tt
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heroin epidemic in the 70s and the crack epidemic in the 1990s. ohio's leaders recognize the seriousness of ohio's prescription drug problem. on february 8, 2011, representatives terry johnson, and dave burke, a physician and pharmacist, in troep dugsd house bill 93 in ohio. the bill passioned through the, through the house and the senate unanimously. with the support of the attorney general, governor, john kasick signed the bill, 2011 and it be cam law. much like florida, our pain clinics, pill mills were not regulated. however bill 93 regulated pain clinics in ohio. it required physician ownership of pain lyclinics it requires tm to review our prescription monitoring program in hoip hohi.
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they had to do that treating chronic pain patients. attorney general dewine has worked tirelessly to create a multidisciplinary approach to the investigation and prosecution of prescription drug cases. attorney general dewine worked with law enforcement at the local, state, federal levels in ohio to investigate prescription drug cases. we are currently working with prosecutor as cross ohio to prosecute these cases. he is proud to be part of the statewide team in an effort to protect ohio's families. our next step, the attorney general, believes is to build a bridge with state and federal officials across the nation. to have a true impact, we must collaborate on a multistate approach to combat this scourge. ohio and the nation must be proactive working with all the stake holders to take m this epidemic. when this happens you will see success. for example, in a county, one of
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ohio's hardest hit quoucounties border county to kentucky. the last pill mill was closed this past s december. the county has population of approximately 78,000 residents. at one time it housed 12 pill mills prior to its efforts. today it houses zero pill mills. last week, the county learned that accidental overdoses decreased 17%. drug related deaths, decreased 42% in 2011. this was the first decrease, the county had seen in the past decade in these numbers. it had been a steady increase prior to 2011. i will end with a quote from reverend martin luther king jr., we may have all come on different ships but we are in the same boat now. each of us have arrived at the prescription drug scourge on a different ship. today we are all in the same boat, more importantly people will die if we continue to ignore the scourge. thank you. >> thank you very much. you are recognized for five minutes.
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>> thank you. chairman, ranking member, butterfield, distinguished members on behalf of administrator michelle lynnhart and men and women of the dregug enforcement administration. before i get going i would just look to thank the chairman and this committee for the leadership on this problem. and i also want to thank you for promoting the national take back program. if i may throw in a plug, we will be doing it again, april 2th, saturday, state, fed lle r, local agencies, community groups work together to collect the drugs i would look to thank you. i would look to thank the leadership, who has gone out of his way to make sure that we get all the resources we need to dupe o do
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our job. the abuse of pharmaceuticals continues to be a problem in the united states, based on pharmaceutical diversion from the supply chain and medication delivery system. and we believe that is the major reason, there is just holes in the system. over the last few years individuals and organizations have created keeps within the health care delivery system that are pure legitimate but noth morgue than illegal operations to facilitate the illegal distribution of pharmaceuticals. pharmaceutical diversion can be created if dea registrants would fulfill their on li gagbligatio. each dea registrant is a link. each registrant, manufacturers, whole wholesalers, distributors, pharmacies have a critical role to play in keeping the chain closed two. major schemes have emerged to divert millions of dosages of powerful addictive drugs. the first one a few years back was the internet pharmacy scheme. you could go online. and purchase pretty much any
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schedule 3, 4, 5. hydrocodone, it came out of the distribution chain. and no one fulfilled their obligations to the chain. you had distributors weren't doing due diligence on pharmacies ordering huge amounts of hydrocodone. pharmacists weren't inspecting, they were issued for legitimate purpose. and in the use of traditional practice. doctors were doing the same thing. they were prescribing without a legitimate reason for prescribing. there was no medical determination made. but because of law enforcement's focus on that problem and then congress coming in and passing the ryan-hait act, we basically shut down that system. unfortunately, that system moved back to florida. and turned into pain clinics. and pain clinics grew. now these pain clinics -- besides the fact that they're operating illegally. they're doing the same thing
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that the internet pharmacies did. the only difference is, an internet pharmacies there was no face to face visit. in pain clinics they see patients. again doctors are moving huge amounts of prescriptions out the door. pharmacists are not checking validity of the prescriptions, not ensuring they are valid prescriptions. and the whole sales and distributors continue to ship large amounts of drugs to those pharmacies without doing due diligence, what knowing their, their, their customer. without saying, why are youed or snerg why are you ordering this amount of drug when every other average pharmacy in the u.s. only orders this? you are 10, 12, 14 times more than that. they have a responsibility. they choose not to abide. comply with that obligation. we are fighting through education and regulatory control and enforcement. through 2005 we have a distributor initiative,
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distributor of their obligations under the act. when distributors fail to adhere. dea takes civil action against their registration from 2010 through end of 2011 we took action against five wholesale distributors for unlawfully supplying florida, pain clinics, associated pharmacies with controlled substances. actions included, issuance of suspension orders and the prestripr restriction of loss of duty. practitioners that issue the prescriptions. these practitioners, feed addiction of drug seekers and allow drugs to enter the illicit market. rogue practitioner activities not limited to florida, rogue pain clinics are in georgia, tennessee, kentucky, southern ohio now in addition to out west. a dea investigation, with state and local and federal agencies of a pain clinic doctor operating in ohio culminated with the doctor sentenced to four life terms for overdose deaths.
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of four individuals. i would have to wrap it up here. we are making progress. dea is using regulatory authority to ensure compliance with the csa and immplementing regulations. strengthening the integrity of the system. in closing, i want to assure you that dea is working closely with all our counterparts. federal. state, local. and regulatory counterparts as part of the administration's comprehen sieveco comprehensive approach. thank you for this opportunity to appear. and i look forward to answering your questions. >> thank you very much. i'm going to recognize, myself for five minutes. of questioning. and i would look to begin with the attorney general bondee. i know you care passionately. you and i have spoke any bout the opiate babies. and it's my belief when people dabble with heroin or cocaine they understand they're dabbling with an addiction.
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they don't think that when they start playing around with pharmaceuticals. can you speak to why you are so focused on the opiate babies? you really are passionate. you ran out of time. please talk about it for a little bit if you could >> you know, right after we passed our legislation last session. i started getting calls from neo natal intensive care nurses, neon neonay -- 20% of the baby going through the neonatal intensive unit are born addicted to prescription drugs. imagine the worst add erorst ad. that's how the babies are born. they are sensitive to light, sound, touch, instead of milk they're getting morphine or methadone. that's how the kids are coming into this world. all children's hospital in saint petersberg, premiere for
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children. 30% of the babies going through the neonatal unit born addicted to prescription drugs. it has to stop. i take it from a babies lives. but if you look at it from a cost perspective. saint joe's had to expand their nic-u just to accommodate the babies. so it is costing taxpayers a fortune. and i think a lot of it really has to do with education. that's why we have -- legislation pro posposed this session. it as it but working together to educate these women. because, unfortunately, i think some of these women will say,dr stopped marijuana. because the it is the word prescription drugs they don't realize the harm it is doing to their unborn child. what scared me to death, chairman, was when i, when i asked the doctor, i said we
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can't leat this become the next crack baby epidemic the he said we have already surpassed it. >> thank you. we don't even know the long term consequences for these opiate babies. i just want to turn, with my limited time to, to mr., hopefully will have a second round of questioning. you and i have had multiple discussions, we are not always on the same page. but i applaud, applaud some of your efforts recently. you and i have talked about quotas. if florida is having success, shutting down their pill mills, wouldn't the quotas show a correlating reduction in the quotas you allow the manufacturing of the drugs? are you seeing that? >> actually, we are seeing deep crease, some what in florida. but we are seeing expansion of pill mills throughout the country. if you go to tennessee, kentucky, southern ohio, and, you know, most of those, southern hoi hoip were shut down. but we still continue to see those flow out. i just right now -- even though
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f florida is going downhill, states north of florida is on the rise. this problem is just moving north and west. >> just glad to hear you admit that and to say that. that is encouraging to me. can you speak briefly about the cardinal case? now that the district court, resolved the restraining order what are the next steps in the cardinal case. apparently cardinal plans to appeal. if the district court order is uphead, what its the next step? >> because the case is in active litigation, i am not allowed to answer questions. however i can tell you we have -- we have had cases similar to cardinal in the past. in the last, two, three years. they're exercising, their rights. and we respect that. we will continue on with the program. looking at our distributors, making sure they meet their obligations under the act. if they don't meet their obligations under the act we will take the same action that
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we have taken. >> i'm just encouraged. long ago you and i argued that all of it was coming out of grandma's medicine chest, correct? >> yes, ma'am. not that i don't still believe it is coming out of the medicine chest. but i believe that, we are handling it upstream now to prevnt it get downing to that level. >> thank you for that. you talk about shipments, cargo containers that go missing but they're unreported. do you want to speak to that? >> anecdotely. law enforcement throughout ohio has the told us that, that cargo shipments are falling off the trucks. we have heard -- >> just magically. >> just magically. we have heard through conversations with manufacturers about their security measures. and they do seem to be very good security measures as the director alluded to earlier. however, there seems to be a -- a point as it gets further down the chain that the security measures either weaken or are
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not as efficient. and -- once it gets to the distributors and then they send it to their distributors who send it out. there appear to be security measures that aren't in place that allow, shipments to fall off trucks. >> thank you very much. my time is up. i would look to recognize mr. butter field for five minutes. >> thank you. let me -- go to the -- to the gentleman from the dea. how do you pronounce your name? ronazizzi. >> ronazizzi. all right. thank you. let me talk with you about the security procedures followed by the prescription drug manufacturers, specifically, how the drug moves from raw materials to usable med sun then to distributors and then done to the wholesalers. are you comfortable, sir, with the security mechanisms ep ployploy -- employed by the come snaenz. >> physical security systems for
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the most part i am. we do onsite inspections every three years or so for manufacturers. importers/exporters, raw material holders. if there is problems in the physical security we handle it onsite. we make suggestions. and -- generally it is correct the. >> right. what kind of relationship does the dea have with -- with the prescription drug industry, specifically what programs does dea employ to educate dea manufacturers and distributors? how closely, if at all, and does dea audit or prove security measures employed by the manufacturers and distributors? and, is there a difference in procedure, for authorized distributors versus secondary distributors? >> well, first of all -- we are onsite to these distribution and manufacturing facilities every three years. in addition, for instance,
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wholesalers and distributors. we have a program called the -- distributor is nush tinitiative down, not as a group, individually, each come of pane. we go over distributions. we talk about what to look for when they're sending their drugs downstream. we offer them assistance -- to help them, identify what diversion is. and where it is. that's done individually. by company. the manufacturers, we have an open door as far as manufacturers go. i've don't think we -- ever had a problem with the manufacturers where -- where we haven't rectified that problem. we are regulators. we have a relationship between regulators, and, the industry. and we oversee them and make sure they're operating under the act. the and in scum pcompliance wit act. >> technology advances have enabled new abuse deterrent drugs to take the place
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