goes up there for a often were knows that we have a common law system, knows that the role of judges is to make laws. i'm not just venting. my question actually is is there a way apart from pat sanship to -- and whose job is it? i understand that the present. whose job is it to say we need a ration conversation. how do we get back to having a conversation in which we say, look, this is what the courts do, this is what everybody wants it to do and this is how they actually function. >> your we can't handle the truth premise! >> i think they can't always go to the help. i was filling in the blank with

other use. you can a lot of questions about a lot of this evenings, not just the courts. the reason i make that point is talking about something that's more fundamental and not just unique to the courts. >> i must say -- >> i don't know, i don't know. >> i'm remembering mickey's comment that that time is gone. i guess i'm a little bit pessimistic about our capacity in the wider polity to have those whiling discussion. >> normally i would be cynical about this, too. there's an old joke about it's always safe to write to congress because congress doesn't write back? we make our decisions, we. and that leaves it very

vulnerable to this kind of irrational attack. so my real question is do you see anybody in the truth and a mags ol discussion thisand a lot of people in politics won't. >> yes. have i someone. stephen colbert. he mass more influence over what people think about the property. people are getting their news about the report now as colbert. when he goes out and signs up his funny picture, stevens kind of beats him up in this playful way? and the question is do you regret any decision? and heap said only the decision

to do this interview. if you want to promote rational discourse, that's part of the equation. >> the reason -- i fully understand your question and i actually think that we may be at a tipping point where it may be headed back in the other direction. >> i hope you're right. >> the last confirmation, people didn't watch to the degree they had watched. the ratings are actually starting to go down and in fact even the network has stopped covering, they look around to find they didn't do gavel to gavel. i do think to the expentd it's become a kind of performance that people are geing turned off. i think we may have reached the tipping point. i this it would take -- yon think particularly courageous. the confirmation hearing is a job interview. if i were going to interview somebody for a job and i said things like do you eat

peanutbutter? i just asked a bunch of irrational questions, no one would allow me to get away with with that in a job interview. but we do allow this with the confirmation hearings. i do think the public has had it and has turned utility. i think a person could go up there and ask the kwis that actually are responsive to the position that the person is seeking opinion. some of these questions are critical to me. i have a whole set of civil procedure questions i always want to ask. it's a place where court have enormous influence and the roberts court has shaped a lot about how litigation gets managed through their civil procedure decisions. the questions are never asked. if i told you the cases where the court has done it, they're all cases that are kind of interesting on their facts but people don't focus and the

congress should be helping people understand that is what is the real power they will have in their hands? what is that power to have power over the body that helps create rules for how litigation is conducted. one or two brave people could continue to recalibrate us. it's always been pretty crappy since we've been having public confirmation hearings. could help us have a better sense of what this job really is about. >> we have time for one more question. yes, sir, hi. >> how are judges cutting corners? is it a matter of more summary and kwausy summary dispositions? is it a matter of few or large ins stumts.

it would be probably not a least in any part of the system and do i sound bitter? >> i think it's that peat nut butter that you had for lunch that you were asking about. >> how are you cutting corners? >> i know at the trial level in the state courts, there are enormous precious on judges, you know, there's the famous outage, justice delayed is justice denied is true in the sense that it's better to get a bad decision now that you can go ahead and appeal than a much better reasoned decision after the judges had time to consider that comes down in a year or a year and a half. so i think there probably is a diminution in the level of attention and care in those trial courts that are overwhelmed with filings, understaffed with clerical staff and at the appellate level i

don't think there is any crisis. i stand to be corrected by people with more experience around the country but we're such a tiny little portion of it functionally and financially. that i don't think it's an issue. >> p but linda's comment about the immigration courts where in fact, i mean, that's a very real issue whether these cases are getting any attention at all. when you look at the volume suggested that -- at the administrative level, you are multiply the number of minutes and divide it by a number of cases. it's like two and a half minutes a case. >> the immigration judges are deciding a dozen case as day and these arically kated basis. >> what ben b fees that are charged when you plead or you do a nolle pros, the judge will assign some kind of fee.

other then they say $157 and you pay the money, right? and there are people who can't the money. i always wondered where the scale for the fee comes from? >> the card in your pocket right now? >> actually legislated. it's a matter of law, the money go directly into the general funds or preallocated to things like skourt. it varies enormously from state to state. but i'm sure millions slip through the cracks in that regard. but the fee is that is when the

crisis hit and state court budgets started being hit. a lot of people looked at increases in filing fees, too to court functions al and, you know, sometimes you hold your nose and do what i don't believe in but the knows should be funded by the people who have to come to court and use it is as anti-democratic a principle as i can think of. court have done it out of desperation but i know of no state judge who believes in it as a moral proposition. so -- >> that will have to be the final thought. i just want to thank you. i should have to pay tuition to sit with you. i'm serious about that. fantastic panel. they always do a terrific job in bringing together great minds. i want to bring back the president of the american bar association, bill robinson.

[ applause ] >> what a program. this has really been a very special occasion, lots to think, about lots to consider. this brings to a close or program. please join me again in expressing our appreciation to john and these distinguished panelists for a wonderful -- [ applause ] >> on behalf of the american bar association, i'd like to leave you with a thought after thanking you for joining us and making this a wonderful law day conclusion to our celebration and an expression of our concerns that if we didn't realize it before, we certainly realize now after this discussion that an independent, fair and impartial, adequately funded court system is the key to constitutional democracy and

constitutional democracy. because no courts, no why is, no freedom. thank you all very, very much. [ applause ] bin laden was a strategically relevant communicator with various and disparate outfits and i have to

confess, i had insider knowledge. i worked in afghanistan and i worked on the problem of iraq and we knew bin laden personally was involved in communications to try to corral and bring under control terrorists, we knew he was making outreach early on and he was involved in all these types of things working through mediums and other individuals. we knew he was there and doing this. and as a consequence and no surprise when you're talking about a global ideology is relevant. former and former administration officials continue to weigh in. see what they have to say online at the c-span video library. all archived and searchable. >> this weekend on book tv, seth jones documents the war against al qaeda since 9/11.

also this weekend, your questions and comments for tom brokaw in depth. book tv, everybody weekend. >> c.l. bryant is a tea party activist and former naacp chapter president from texas. he talked about why he left the democratic party in his new movie called "run away slave, run from tierney to liberty" at the annual leadership program at the rockies. this is just under an hour. >> he's been with the organization previously known as citizens for a sound economy for over 15 years, an economist by training. matt kibbie is a well respected national public policy expert, a best selling author and political commentator. "newsweek" called kibbie one of the master minds of the tea party politics. his expertise has led to frequent aappearances on national news shows including fox news, mbc, cnn, msnbc, fox

business and c-span, dubbed the scribe by new york daily news, he was co author of dick armey. please help me welcome matt kibbie to introduce c.l. bryant. [ applause ] >> how you guys doing? does anyone here believe in freedom? does anyone here think that the government spending too much money it doesn't have? okay. here's the test. does anyone think sometimes as frustrating as it is that maybe you have to beat the republicans before you can beat the democrats? i just wanted to make sure we were in the right place. later on today after lunch, we are showing the colorado premiere of a movie that i am really proud of called "run away

slave." that will be showing right after lunch. i got to tell you, money back guarantee, it's worth your time. it's powerful. up might get a little choked up, but you're definitely going to be fired up after you see this movie. so, please, if you can, stay for that movie. i first met c.l. on september 12th, 2009. we had both walked from freedom plaza 1.3 miles up to the capitol for what turned out to be the largest fiscally conservative protest i believe in the history of the united states. and we didn't really know each other at the time but we were there with about a million of our best friends and he got to the stage long before i got there and i had never met him but i heard this voice coming from the stage. has anyone ever heard c.l. speak? you're in for a treat. he may melt your face off so be prepared. [ laughter ]

but i was wading up to the stage through this huge crowd and c.l. as much as anybody captured what i called the tea party ethos. there's something about the men and women who have risen up to take their country back. they have a set of values. and more importantly they're willing to put their personal lives, their families, their careers on the line for the things that they believe in. and c.l. represents all of those things. i couldn't be more proud that he's my friend. i couldn't be more proud for the work that he's done, the work that we've done together in the trenches in the last two years fighting to take this country back. can you guys give a round of applause for c.l. bryant. [ applause ] >> thank you. hello, patriots. it's good to be here with you today and it's still a great day

in the usa. and i want to have you join me before we go any further in thanking the finest men and women on the face of the earth and that's the american soldier. let's give them a round of applause. [ applause ] i want to thank not only matt for that wonderful introduction, of course his friendship and freedomworks and all that they have meant to me and we've meant to each other over the last couple of years, but i also want to thank chairman schaeffer here as well shari and christina. i want to thank four friends that i have met here in the last 48 hours, karen, lee and shari and don, i want to thank you for

your hospitality. i am very happy to be here with patriots like yourself and people like you who want to see a legacy continue in this country. i understand that it was 20 years ago that terry constantine planted an idea that in fact has grown to what we are experience hearing today. 20 years ago of course we were coming to the end of the reagan -bush era and our nation somehow in the time that has passed between there and 2009 had fallen asleep. and unfortunately an enemy crept

in among us, and it planted seeds of discord among the american people. in the last two and a half years we as americans must have learned something, and i have a feeling that the two things that we have learned is, one, if you take for granted liberty and freedom, they can and they will leave you. and, two, is that we as americans must understand that we have enemies all across this world. and they hate us because we're free. they hate us because we have the right to pursue liberty and freedom.

there are those who actually covet what we have here in this country. they covet our success, they covet our lifestyles, they covet our wealth. somehow when they see us, and they look around at places like this, the broadmoore, which is a fine, fine place, somehow they think that this just happened. they hear our message, they hear our message that america is a place where if you're bold enough, brave enough, you can still secure what we all have known as the blessings of liberty. not only for us, but for our children.

and i have come here tonight or this afternoon and i want to make very certain that you understand that the islamic threat is real, and the security to our country is real and it's time that we wake up, it's time that we understand that we must defend our country against all enemies, foreign and domestic, we must make that stand right here and right now today. there are those who visit our land and they see what we have accomplished and they go about their way to manipulate the system, to remain here. and i want you to understand that our nation is, in fact, a

very unique country. a thought occurred to me a few days ago, that if we were to become russian citizens, we still would not be able to become russians. if we were to go to denmark and become citizens of denmark, we'd still never be danes. argentina. if we were to go there, we'd never become argentineans. t mod the most beautiful thing about america, is that it does not matter where you came from, we all have come here and we all are now regardless of the we're irish, if we're english, if we're african decent, we all now

unite in this country as america and that must not go away. we must hold onto who we are. to achieve the american dream, that while we slept an enemy crept in. friends, i need you to understand something. there is an evil among us, an evil among americans and our way of life. and that evil is called multiculturalism. that is something that will destroy the fiber of our country if we don't pay attention. you see, there are those who do, in fact, covet what we have, they want to come here to our

country, and i need to tell you, they don't want americanism. they want our stuff. they want what we have. but they do not want to assimilate. it's all -- as all immigrants have done. they do not want to become american. you and i in this room tonight, we understand -- or this afternoon -- we understand the american dream. and we understand what that means. the american dream. our movie "run away slave" goes deeply into and examines the root of the american dream. we examine the freedom that we have. and we examine the idea that

america is not a land of guarantees. america is a land of opportunity. and you here in this room today, graduates of lpr, know what is possible in this country. and you know what is necessary to preserve our nation and our freedom. but i bring you a warning. i bring a warning to all conservatives. and that is this. it is time that we take on a different type of posture. it is time that we take on a posture of offense. for too long we have been in a

defensive posture, and the enemies of conservatism, the enemies of the republic, have been assaulting us. they have been abusing us. and they have been insulting us. matt and i over the last couple of years have been called all types of names from all quarters of our country. that's okay. but we must understand one thing, it is time for us to man up as americans and go on the offensive as conservatives and defend who we are and who we stand for. you apologize far too much. we have the truth. the progressive liberals will always try and put you on the

defensive. but i tell you this. stop being on the defensive. be who you are. stand on the principles that did, in fact, cause this country to be the greatest country the world has ever known. there was a time in our nation when we were certain that we could defeat any enemy, any foe. and we could always identify our enemies. and we were certain that whatever enemy that attacked us from without we would be able to repel that enemy. but i come to bring a startling

revelation to us now, and that is that our enemies as was said before i came to the podium, are very unidentifiable. and as a former president of the naacp in garland, texas, in a time when we were suing the school district in federal court, i have seen both sides of this argument. the reason i broke with them is because i came to the realization that the agenda for them was not to just control my agenda. but the agenda for them was to control me.

and then to use me as a tool to control a block of people. that is the liberal progressive method. and their methodology has, in fact, controlled a bloc of people for over 50 years. and if you continue to sleep, if you continue not to pay attention to what's going on, then the very method that they have used to enslave that group of people, believe me, they have the same designs on the entire country. and my friends, this afternoon,