you've read of or example was this but a woman in my hometown was killed and her baby was cut from her womb and she was left to die. i was like my goodness, in my little town of kentucky, for that to happen, something is sick out there. there is a sickness among us and we have to do something about it. as i see the way forward, i have a hope that we will wake up, that we can come together as a people and find our way forward. what we have is incredibly precious. the republic that was created by our founders and it's a republic. we need to understand that. it's a republic bound and die contained by a constitution. it's a great country but our country started and created more prosperity than ever known but as a consequence, more humanitarian and charity has come from our country than any other country but you don't look to cuba to help those in haiti. you do see great wealth coming

from our country and being given to other countries and given to the poor. we are a charitable nation. but we are losing it. we have a society where now everybody just wants to divide up a shrinking pie and point to you and say you've got too much and we're going to take it from the government and give it to someone else. i want everybody to have more but i don't want to punish anyone, i don't want to say you've got too much and you've got too little. i want there to be more for everyone. but that only comes from a free society. we owe it to our children and our grandchildren to do everything we can and in that cause, i will continue to do as much as i can for that cause. thank you very much. [ applause ] >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome back to the stage executive director of the faith and freedom coalition, mr. gary march. >> what an amazing leader. a constitutional conservative par excellence.

he's going to be doing a book signing outside in front of rooms 18 and 19 so if you would like to get a copy of senator rand paul's book, "the tea party goes to washington" you can get that stieigned. i will leave a copy right over here. the first person who wants it, gets it. and we've got a copy of s.e. cupp's book as well, so you can have that as well. now you know how some of these free books work. i'm not going to throw books at you. now we've got another great panel for you.

♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, we are pleased to host a panel of some of our nation's leading conservative voices for a special discussion on the future of obamacare. please welcome to the stage the moderate o moderator. mr. colin hanna. >> good morning. i am delighted to be with you good folks this morning because we need to spend a little time thinking about this remarkable rendezvous with destiny we're

going to have now in the next week and a half. could be as early as next monday, the 18th, most likely monday the 25th, possibly wednesday the 27th, but in one of those three days, the supreme court will almost assuredly rule on the matter of obamacare. the program highlight refers to this as the future of obamacare. i think i can probably speak with a fair amount of assurance that we hope that the future of obamacare is limited. is that right? so the real question before us is what should we do after obamacare. what should we do after the supreme court ruling. unless the supreme court ruling is a virtual 100% affirmation of the law as constitutional, there are a whole host of things we

can do. we the public, we the activists of the conservative movement, we the faith and freedom coalition, but also, we the conservatives in the legislature, and i am just delighted to have one of the true leaders in the legislature, congressman tom price, who is himself a doctor. he is one of or heur heroes, is not? and one of the great leaders of the activists organizations working on this and that's jim martin. these two gentlemen have made it their life's work, at least for these few years, to propose a more commonsense approach and less government as a solution to

what a number of people think are problems within our health care system. i think the number one chore, unless there's 100% affirmation by the supreme court, our number one chore is to repeal obamacare. [ applause ] the congressman will address that in just a moment. but i think it's important that we understand that there is a difference between a supreme court finding of unconstitutionality and the actual repeal. there is a need to remove from the statute books any portion of the bill that is not eviscerated by the supreme court so we absolutely must do that. we've got to do that first and foremost, get that off the books so that we can in fact start over. then the next question is, and let's just game this out, what happens if there is a partial

but more or less substantial finding of unconstitutionality, particularly with regard to the mandate, the personal mandate, individual mandate. should we try to do full repeal in both houses, knowing full well that it will stall somewhat over in the senate? i think congressman will address this in just a moment but i think there's a reasonably good chance that repeal will not only succeed in the house but maybe even pick up some democrat votes because i think there will be a certain political reality that sets in about that time. and that political reality is that they're on the wrong side of history and they're coming up for an election so i think we'll pick up a truly bipartisan majority in the house so what happens over in the senate? the conventional wisdom is that the senate, led by harry reid, will do their best not to take up a repeal bill but i think that could actually prove to be a little more difficult to sustain than they might think,

and i think a few senators who are themselves up for re-election might want to be on the right rather than on the wrong side of history so that their own history can continue for a little bit. so it wouldn't surprise me at all if it were to get through and think about the vote, think about a senator who is up for re-election whose political party wants him to vote against repealing a bill that the supreme court has just found unconstitutional. that's in effect being in favor of a bill that the supreme court's just found unconstitutional. who wants to do that? well, i would suspect that a number of those who are in vulnerable senate races might not want to do that. so it's even possible that it could get through the senate and then just for the moment, allow your mind to be a little bit fanciful and think about a bill that arrives on the president's desk to repeal obamacare with

bipartisan support in both houses, what does the president do. i think it's obvious the president vetoes it but he does so at a substantial political cost. so let's be sure that we encourage our friends in the senate not to consider a house-passed repeal bill automatically dead. let's show them that the grassroots supports full repeal in both houses this year before the election. is that something we can all get behind? now, it's easy for me in my position at let freedom ring to suggest full repeal, but the ones who will actually do it are those in the house and the senate, and our next speaker is one of the true leaders of the conservative forces in the house. tom price is not merely a congressman from georgia. he is himself a doctor. he knows the health care system. he's an orthopedist and he has come to washington in part

because he understands how easily this town can screw up what is still the best medical system in the world. he has also shown himself to be a leader. he's a former head of the republican study committee. that's the group of those in the house who are the most conservative, who reflect and enact our values. he is now the chairman of the policy committee in the house. he is truly one of our current and future leaders. please welcome congressman and dr. tom price from georgia. >> thanks, colin, so much. good morning to you. what a great day to repeal obamacare, huh? colin's been taking some happy pills, i think. i'm not so sanguine about that active over there in the united states senate. i think harry reid's got a drawer in his desk that's for republican bills that come from

the house and he just chucks them all in there and it's got a lock on it and i'm not sure he's interested in opening that drawer. remember the house already repealed obamacare. the house voted to repeal obamacare lock, stock and barrel, one of the first activities we did at the beginning of this congress in 2011. the reason that we did so is because we believe it to be, the bill to be unconstitutional but also violative of all the principles you and i hold dear as it relates to health care. every single one of them, whether accessibility or affordability or quality or responsiveness, innovation, choices, all of the things we say we want in health care, and the bill destroys all of them. so what do you say to your friends when they say well, what are you going to do. you hear them, what are you going to do, you don't have any solutions. well, nonsense. the fact of the matter is, you can solve all of the challenges we face in health care and other things without putting washington in charge. let me just tick through a couple of them. one, you got to get folks covered. you can't have 30 million to 50

million people walking around without health coverage. i'm a third generation physician. what my father and grandfather were able to do in terms of cost shifting, having the guy that had a little more pay a little more for the guy that didn't have enough, and everybody knew what was going on and it worked. it worked. it was a social contract. social compact. that's not only impossible anymore, it's illegal. it's a felony. right now, the federal government, it's a felony if a physician charges one person more than another. and it doesn't work with the kind of numbers that we have anyway and with the technology that we have. so how do you get folks covered without putting washington in charge? you make it so it's financially attractive and feasible and foolish for anybody not to be covered. you do that so that you make it so that every single person, when they do their budget, which people do, the senate doesn't do budgets but people do budgets, right, when they do their budget, they say oh, look, it makes more sense for us to have health coverage than not financially. you do that through the tax code. deductions, credits, advanceable credits, refundable advanceable

credits, whatever it takes to be able to make certain that everybody understands that if they purchase health coverage, they're better off financially. that's important for two reasons. one is it gets folks covered. two, they're purchasing the coverage they want, not that the government wants for them. secondly, you got to solve the problems of pre-existing and portability. you ought not lose your insurance if you change your job or lose your job. that's a holdover from a bygone era when you went to work for one company and were there forever and ever. how do you that? this is a simple one. make it so everybody owns their health coverage regardless of who's paying for it. like your 401(k) plan. you take it with you if you change your job, lose your job, you take it with you. how about pre-existing? the left loves this one. you got to keep people from getting insurance, you got to force people off. no. you just have the insurance work the way it's supposed to work which is to spread the risk. who is priced out of the market when they have an awful diagnosis or injury? people in the individual and small group market. so what should we do? allow everybody in the individual and small group market to pool together, right,

so you get them together, get millions of people, millions of people, you could purchase insurance with millions of other people so that your health status or anybody else's doesn't make a whit's worth of difference in the premium that's being charged. that's the way insurance works. it spreads the risk. so you can get folks covered, solve the insurance challenges, then finally, we got to save hundreds of billions of dollars in the health care system which is being wasted right now. there are all sorts of ways it is being wasted but the biggest one i believe is what's called the practice of defensive medicine. as a physician, it's what i did, it's what every single doctor in this country does if they're honest with themselves, and that is, doesn't harm you, doesn't hurt you, but what it does is makes it so that he or she, the doctor ever finds themselves in a court of law, that they can look the judge and the jury in the eye honestly and say i don't know what you expected me to do because i did everything and then show them everything that they did. in fact, everything isn't necessary. the vast majority of the time, to either diagnose or treat the

patient. so how do you solve that? you make it so that individual physicians who practice, if they do the right thing, then that ought to be an affirmative defense in the court of law, it ought to make it so they can't be sued. the estimate is $600 billion that we waste. $600 billion on the practice of defensive medicine. you can do away with it with responsible policy as it relates to lawsuit abuse. look what we've done. we've gotten folks covered, solved the insurance challenges of portability and pre-existing and we've saved hundreds of billions of dollars and we've done all of it without putting washington in charge of a thing. how's it sound, huh? the bill -- a lot of people have drafted legislation. h.r. 3000 is the bill i just described to you, the empower patients first act, h.r. 3000. we look forward to passing that once you, me and everybody

across this great country give us a november 6th that will be historic. thank you so much. god bless you. >> jim martin came to washington as a newspaper reporter. he then hooked up with then-congressman ed gurney, then senator ed gurney, then began to begin the marketing of conservative ideas in association with richard vickery and several years ago, he started the conservative movement's answer to aarp, the 60-plus association. then he did an absolutely brilliant move in bringing pat boone on as its national spokesperson. please welcome jim martin of 60 plus. >> thank you. thank you, colin. i'm going to go to the podium because i have a couple items i want to show folks here that i couldn't hold there. just so there's no confusion with the 60 plus association and the aarp, i call them the association against retired

persons. thank you again, colin. it's always an honor to be with colin hanna, chairman of let freedom ring, and with dr. price. i say that with great pride. congressman price. he led the fight in the house of representatives to repeal obamacare. for that, he deserves another round of applause. >> hear, hear. [ applause ] >> we've touched all the bases on obamacare, the affordable care act. i thought the unaffordable care act. the only people making money off it are the aarp. this is a fortune 500 conglomerate. somebody asked me once jim, does this bill make sense to you and the seniors of 60 plus. i said no, it doesn't make -- well, it does make sense, dollars and cents to the aarp's bottom line. they've been making millions of dollars on the backs of seniors and i'm out to stop it.

last year they made $600 million in profits. how does a nonprofit make $600 million in profits? i haven't figured that one out yet. i've been in this town 50 years. we're not selling anything at 60 plus except a philosophy. it's limited government, less taxes and adherence to a document called the constitution. i want to also thank ralph reed for putting on this conference. one other point on my group and the aarp. they tout another entertainer, harry belafonte. he's a great entertainer. he's so far to the left he makes the president look pretty moderate. he likes to hobnob with ahmadinejad and chavez, as colin pointed out, our spokesman at 60 plus, are proud to announce the singer pat boone. pat likes to tout his friendship with ronald reagan, his old friend. but let me just point out one

thing. if dr. price had been allowed and senator rand paul, another great doctor, and all these members, had they been allowed to do what candidate barack obama said, we'll all sit around a big table, put it on c-span and get this thing solved, we'll have doctors and nurses and others there, well, guess what? the ugly truth is now coming out. i refer to the "wall street journal" article a couple days ago, the e-mails are coming out, dr. price and i were talking about this backstage. all these e-mails coming about all the deals that were cut between pharma and aarp with the white house. look, candidate obama said we're not going to do that, we won't deal with a lot of this, we'll be open, we'll be out front, we'll be transparent. look, if lying were a federal criminal offense, the president of the united states and half of his senior staff would right now be behind bars. it's that simple.

we've been running ads around the country. the 60 plus senior citizens get the fact that this 2700 page unread bill was bad medicine for seniors, quite frankly, and you know, i get accused of talking about falsely saying $500 billion was cut out of medicare. well, nancy pelosi said that recently. we've got it on tape. she said we cut $500 billion out of medicare. the papers down in my home state of florida are now hitting us pretty hard, saying that we're talking about $500 billion in cuts to medicare. well, if we're wrong, so is nancy pelosi. and the fact is that cut has been made and we're out to rectify that by taking on certain senators around the country.

in montana, missouri, michigan, ohio and florida, my home state, where those senators voted to support obamacare. right now there's a big battle going on, a semantic word game going on about the deciding vote, the 60th vote. now, bill nelson in my home state of florida, and i'm going to show an ad in a second, senator nelson said 60 plus has got it all wrong. this front group. oh, yeah, we're a front group. we get our money from all these rich millionaires, we won't disclose it. they mentioned the koch brothers. we happen to agree with their philosophy. they agree with mine. the fact of the matter is, if george sorros gave me money, either one of two things have happened. i've either sold out or george sorros has seen the light and come over to our side. it's that simple. but the fact is again, running these ads, they say that we're

distorting his record, senator nelson, when he voted, he said this would bring down the deficit. that's nonsense, of course. but i do want to refer you to a couple of quotes and i'll end on this note, where senator nelson said i was not the 60th vote, that was senator ben nelson of nebraska. well, we're wondering if out of nebraska, if ben nelson is saying no, that was bill nelson in florida. actually, senator nelson ought to check with his colleague in montana, senator john caster. i'm not making this up. senator tester, because we ran an ad out there questioning his vote for obamacare, betraying seniors, if you will, senator tester actually pulled out a c-span clip that showed that he was vote number 52, i believe it w was. how dumb could he be.

someone said to me finally well, let me give you a direct quote here. sandra nelson says they've got it all wrong, again, bill nelson. well, what i want to say to him, senator nelson, if you were not the deciding vote for obamacare, what number were you, since we're playing a number game, i guess. but we do apologize to senator nelson, if we're making him uncomfortable, but the fact is we should all say what number we were, i guess the senator should. but had he not voted for the bill, it would not have passed. it's that simple. even the orlando sentinel in my home state of florida did say you can argue that the bill needed 60 votes to pass, quote, any of its 59 other supporters could have been termed the deciding vote. with that, i would like to show

a 30-second ad we started running down in florida. this is what's got him a little bit exercised. if you would run that ad. >> times have been tough in florida. almost one million out of work. businesses shutting down. thousands of homeowners facing foreclosure. but in washington, bill nelson supports president obama's policies that hurt hard-working taxpayers. he voted for obama's failed $800 billion stimulus but unemployment still went up and was the deciding vote for the health care law that cuts $500 billion from medicare to pay for new government programs. tell bill nelson, protect hard-working taxpayers. stop the wasteful spending. >> thank you very much. we do have a national bus tour kicking off in florida next week, the 60 plus association. we'll go to florida, virginia and ohio and talk about these issues. thank you again. >> thank you. let's wrap this session up with

a little audience participation. what is the name of the organization that is our conservative answer to aarp? 60 plus. all right. what is the number, hr what, for dr. price's bill to fix health care? >> 3000. >> straight as for everybody. thanks very much. ♪

>> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the stage, the chairman of the faith and freedom coalition, dr. ralph reed. >> good morning. how are y'all doing? are you having fun so far? good. well, i am really privileged and honored to welcome our next speaker. senator mitch mcconnell received his bachelor of arts degree from the university of louisville and his law degree from the university of kentucky. so when it comes to alumni in the state of kentucky, he's got all his bases covered. he began his political career by working for the legendary kentucky senator, john sherman cooper. in 1978, he was elected as the judge county executive of jefferson county, kentucky which

encompasses the city of louisville. in 1984, a long shot candidate for the u.s. senate, he was elected over democrat d eshgdee huddleston. he is currently serving his fifth term and is the longest serving united states senator in the history of the state of kentucky. in the u.s. senate, in the federal courts, and in the court of public opinion, he has fought liberal campaign finance reform, including mccain-feingold, and defended the right of organizations like ffc to fully participate in our elections and we are very grateful for his leadership on that. he is pro-life, pro-family, pro-marriage, a full spectrum conservative who led the fight in the senate against the failed obama stimulus package, against

obamacare and against obama's liberal judicial nominee. he has a perfect 100% voting record with the faith and freedom coalition. he is married to the brilliant and lovely former director of the peace corps, former president of united way and former secretary of labor, elaine chou. he definitely married above himself. he is the proud father of three daughters. he is the 15th republican leader in the history of the u.s. senate and come december, after the republican caucus and the senate organizes after the 2012 elections, he will replace harry reid as the next senate majority leader. please welcome a great friend of our organization and of faith and freedom, senator mitch mcconnell of kentucky.

♪ >> thank you very much, ralph. good morning, everyone. happy to be here. i want to start by thanking ralph reed. ralph's one of those guys who not only doesn't seem to age, he's been looking like he was 18 for 20 years, but he seems to know exactly what's needed at crucial moments and the faith and freedom coalition is obviously one of those things. so ralph, thank you for your hard work, for your vision and thank you for your commitment to the causes of faith and freedom at a moment when we need it. and thank you, all of you, for coming. it's because of your participation in the process, no