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this tax must be repealed and let us reinstitute the republican our founders so gave us 230 some odd years ago. thank you so very much. >> 20 pages. 20 pages -- >> watching live coverage from the plaza, there are several camera locations set up for reaction throughout the day. there will be press conferences, members of congress who are there speaking and we have a member of congress speaking right now. we're going to listen in for just a little bit more. >> who's this idiot? get that guy out of here. >> they're looking for --
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>> the court itself, the consequences for health care will be dire. premiums will go up dramatically under this law. bureaucrats will be placed in between doctors and patients. they will take decisions out of the hands of patients. hundreds of millions of dollars will be taken out. those funds will be redirected to substandard care and medicaid. the rule is deeply flawed. the court has ruled that this law can can stand. there is a silver lining however. they have found that the federal power under the commerce clause is not unlimited. the republican did not die today. there are limits to federal power and 100 years from now, that will matter more than the disaster that's been put on us with respect to health care. we have an opportunity now as a country for congress to redo the issue now that we know it relies on the tax that breaks every promise the president made.
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we have an opportunity to repeal this law and start over with genuine patience i'm phil from american commitment. thank you. >> the way this works is that throughout the day at that press conference area on supreme court plaza, people will be coming up, members of congress and people representing interest groups. those who filed briefs in support or opposing the legislation will all be having an opportunity to make statements. we'll bring you coverage of that later today we're told that candidate romney will, who is here in washington today, will also be reacting to the court's decision and of course, we are expecting the white house to have a statement, so we'll bring
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that into the mix as we listen to you. back to phone calls. chicago and ralph, a viewer, a republican is watching and has something to say. >> caller: to susan and the greater cspan audience, we didn't have to resort to a draconian tax as used to enslave africans. maybe the rest of the health care bill doesn't have to be renegotiated if we utilize the savings of up to 80% in four areas total equality management, two -- and corruption, three, safe, effective, affordable holistic therapies, insured from medical marijuana 24 states ratified and finally, psychological counseling before elective surgery as 99% of surgery is unnecessary through a world war ii medical board and
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85% of medicine and dentistry is unproven for ota of u.s. congress. >> thank you, ralph, from chicago. next up, a comment from fairfax, virginia. donald is an independent. reaction. >> caller: today is a great day for this country. i'm a college student so now i can happily focus on my education instead of looking around for health care my junior year and i know there are a lot of people -- and all i have to say is for those who don't want to pay for the health care, just pay the tax and be quiet. let the rest of us try out the law before anyone talks about repealing it or anything. >> on twitter, j.j. boston writes this. aca, thrilled and relieved. finally, the u.s. is catching up with other nations. thank you, scotus. the folks we brought you earlier live blogging the court's decision, they have what they
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call their plain english interpretation. the affordable care act including the mandate that all americans buy health insurance is constitutional. there were not five votes to uphold it that congress could use its power to regulate commerce between the states to require everyone to buy health insurance. however, five justices agreed to the penalty that someone must pay if he refuses to by insurance is a kind of tax that congress can impose using its taxing power. that is all that matters because the mandate survives, the court did not need to decide what other part of the statute were constitution alex september for r a provision that required stat states to comply with new requirements or risk losing their funding. the court held the provision is constitutional as long as states would only lose new funds if they didn't comply with new requirements. so that is the plain english summary of what happened with
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this major review by the supreme court of the health care law. let's go back to your phone calls. next up is debbie, a democrat in everett, washington. >> caller: yes, i'm very much for it. i'm looking forward to my refund because there was a part of the bill that took effect this year prior the to the health care law, insurance companies could charge up to 35% for overhead costs. now, with the affordable care act, it goes down to 20% and if they overcharge you, they have to pay you a refund and that includes the whole pool of of course, but i'm looking forward to my mandate and holding up my insurance company having to hold up my money that i've been paying to them. >> thank you. appreciate your call. next up is betty. republican in pennsylvania. you are on, betty.
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good morning. >> caller: i am so glad it passed. i have a daughter-in-law and a son that works in e.r. and they see the abuses all the time and without required insurance, it will continue. i have an importer that got a waiver because of this. and they gave substandard health insurance that doesn't cover one cent if you are hospitalized and without this insurance, without this going through, they could continue to do this. and raise the unpaid bills at hospitals. and that is why i'm so glad it went through. thank you. >> thank you. inside the courtroom, the justices are still reading from their opinions in this courtroom. as the folks outside on the plaza are waiting for reactions from members of congress. on twitter, sarah says this to us from our pro-life activist camp, we are furious with chief justice roberts' decision down
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with the aca. providing the deciding vote this this court's review of the affordable care act. if you're tweeting us, in -- we will include your tweets in our coverage today. next up is a call from st. louis, missouri. donna is an independent. >> caller: good morning. i have two things to say first off i'm so happy, i could cry. first of all, it's the best thing that's happened in a long time. moo moochers got to pay their fair share finally. and millions more will have affordable health care according to the goals and rules. thank you, roberts and thank you, god and secondly, the republicans and insurance companies and a lot of people in the media that have done a great job the last couple of years brainwashing middle class people against something that's really going to help them a lot and when this all goes into effect, people are going to see the
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light about how they were lied to the last two or three years. have a great day. >> next, from nixon, missouri is dan who's a republican. good morning, you're on. >> caller: yeah, partly in e response to that last response, you can go back a whole lot farther than just this aca that the court upheld. originally, it goes back to when they created hmos, ppos, forcing people and companies to choose programs that forced you to go to certain doctors, certain hospitals, not giving the choice. the bottom line is this country has been made famous and created famous by the free enterprise system. which included insurance. competing with one another for
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your business. now, we are forced to pay for or get insurance if we cannot afford it, then we have to pay a penalty. guess what? this is a country that's in a depression. people cannot afford the the insurance. so they have to pay a penalty that they cannot afford. the bottom line it's nothing more than just another government situation to increase taxes and nothing else. they're not doing any favors to anybody. >> thank you. inside the courtroom now, we hear from scotusblog that justice kennedy has finished reading and now, justice ginsburg is reading from her opinion. she helped the make the majority, but the fact she has a separate opinion means she didn't necessarily agree with
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all the chief's reasoning. already beginning to get reaction from members of congress. in this case here is nancy pelosi, the democratic leader issuing the statement. this decision is a victory for the american people. with this ruling, americans will benefit from critical patient protections, lower costs for the middle class, more coverage for families and greater accountability for the insurance industry. next is a viewer reaction from dan in california. you're on. good morning. >> caller: thank you for the opportunity to share in this forum. a lot of the argument against this was to put it back in the hands of congress to fix it. well, you know, i'm sure we're all aware that congress is so ineffective now that we would get nowhere throwing this back in congress, although not perfect, i think it is a positive move. >> thanks, dan. here is a viewer on twitter. who writes this. and yet the scotus aca decision
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will only serve to polarize the country more. sigh. next is a phone call. zachary is a republican who is watching us in woodruff, south carolina. what's your comment? >> caller: good morning. yes, ma'am, first of all, i'd like to introduce myself as being probably the citizen that has watched more political shows, more cspan. i don't get out of my home. i'm disabled and i've watched more political shows, more cspan, more senate and house sessions than probably any other citizen in this country. i will bet you on that. so, here's my view of this. i am deeply disappointed with the court. with chief justice roberts especially for going on, you know, because this is nothing more than, this is not necessarily about health care. this is about the socialist agenda of this president who is the most dangerous president that i have ever had in my lifetime and don't just
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disregard me, folks, as being another white racist down south. i am far from that. but this man is one of the most dangerous things to our liberty as a country and people just don't realize it. and some lady a while back all happy and said that the and made some kind of comment about the media, about like the media had been well, the media in this country is the thing that needs to be busted up. time warner owns practically all the media. abc, cnn, hbo and if anybody's doing brainwashing, it's those folks. >> germmy writes this on twitter. i'm not surprise that had the aca can be enforced by a taxing authority. it makes congress look even worse based on how it was sold from people. next, jack is on. >> caller: good morning.
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this is an absolute tragic day for the united states. i grew up in australia where they have socialized medicine. i have been a victim firsthand of how socialized medicine rations treatment. for even the simplest of injuries. i tore the meniscus in both knees and under the system in australia, it took 18 months just to get in to see a specialist. this is really a tragic day. and next is a comment from jim who is in ocean springs, mississippi. you're a democrat there. you're on the air. go ahead. >> caller: good morning. i'm so pleased with the supreme court ruling and the house the democrats are pleased, i mean of the republicans are pleasing to me, too. my comment is that president eisenhower said his biggest mistake of his presidency was sitting on the supreme court and i was wondering if now the
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republicans think that the biggest george bush's biggest mistake was putting justice roberts on the supreme court and -- >> thank you. sorry. senator harry reid is on the senate floor talking about this decision. let's listen. >> they've had a group of people from nevada. who have or have relatives that have cystic fie rios. it's been so hard for these young people to get insurance. not going to be that way anymore, mr. president. no longer will americans live in fear of losing their health insurance because they lose a job. no longer will tens of millions of americans rely on emergency room care or go without care entirely because they have no insurance at all. soon, virtually every man, woman and child in america will have access to health care they can afford and the vital care they need. passing the affordable care act
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was the greatest single step in generations toward ensuring access to affordable, quality health care for every person in america regardless of where they live, how much money they make. mr. president, unfortunately, republicans in congress continue to target the rights and benefitings guaranteed under this law. i'd like to give the power back to the insurance companies, but our supreme court has spoken. the matter is is settled. no one thinks this law is perfect. presiding officer doesn't. i don't. but democrats have proven we're willing to work with republicans to improve one of the problems that exist in this law or in fact any other law. millions of americans are struggle ling to find work today and we know that. our first priority must be to improve the economy. it's time though for republicans to stop refighting yesterday's battles.
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now that this matter is settled, let's move on to other things. like jos. >> majority wrenn leader of nevada reacting to the supreme court's upholding. on twitter, laura moon says this to us in our viewer reaction today. she writes after 10 years of trying, the usa makes a step toward universal health care. we'd like to hear what you think and we'll also be looking for reaction from official washington as the day proceeds. next up, a caller from phoenix. matt is a republican. you're on, matt. >> caller: i would like to know what official washington is from you because there is no such thing in our constitution labeled as official washington. they are the representatives of the the people.
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who quite frankly according to the polls and according to the state in 26 states say we don't want this. when 54% of the american people say we don't like this. for the court to turn around and say okay, it's a tax. i'm sorry. but i believe our revolutionary war was fought over taxation that was unjust. this is unjust taxation. again. by an imperial presidency. so it's gone beyond the realm of what is reasonable by now u having a forced, you must buy something from someone? i agree with justice scalia and alito. so now what's the government going to do next? force us to buy broccoli? thank you. >> and baby blue ice dem writes
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this on twitter. i'm glad the aca was upheld. college students can stay on their parents' plans until age 26. next is plano, texas. karen is an independent. good morning. >> caller: good morning. thank you for allowing me to enjoy and to be a part of this conversation. first of all, i have a preexisting condition and i live in fear of losing my health care insurance when my husband retires or changes jobs or whatever. but today, the system has been broken. and i want for someone to tell me what has happened to democracy, how one person can blame the congress for something they did and the democrats blame the republicans and republicans blame the democrats, but this is not the congress' fault. this is the fault of one president overstepping his bounds and breaking our system and i'm so saddened by the fact that now, we will pay for
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abortions. anyone. we've already done it out of the country. now, we'll be doing it in our own country and nancy pelosi, who claims to be a catholic, could support abortion at will is just unconceivable to me. and i'm so sad for justice roberts of having to decide between life and death. once again i say, i have a pre-existing condition and it's a very serious one. however, the democracy is what counts and what should stand. and if i died tomorrow, i would say the democracy is what counts. it should not be turned over to a dictator as it has been. thank you. >> karen from texas. the house speaker has issued a statement in reaction to the supreme court's decision. here's some of what he had to say. excuse me. the president's health care law is hurting our economy by driving up health costs and making it harder for small businesses to hire.
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today's ruling underscores the urgency of repealing this harmful law in its entirety. there we see the republican house strategy to move toward repeal. next is the call from dallas, texas. this is a democrat. good morning. you're air the on. >> caller: thank you all. i'm so thankful that affordable care act has been upheld. the insurance companies will no longer have the ability to deny insurance coverage because of pre-existing conditions which is a benefit to everyone. i also appreciate the fact that my college age daughter will be able to stay on my insurance until the age of 26 which is very beneficial as well. thank you very much for allowing me to speak. that's what i needed to say. >> and next is the comment from david who is a republican in columbus, ohio. hi, david. >> caller: hello. i'm really against this. i feel this like is just another
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program to add to the people having a life-long unemployment. they used to have a term limit on it. it seems like the college kids nowadays is overspent by their college education, you know. they buy cars with it, you know. waste it away. and now they're smart enough to go to college but not smart enough to figure out how to pay for it like a lot of other college people did in the past. and i think, you know, they wanted this to be a lot like the european nations, well look at the papers and the european nations because the old saying you can't get blood from a turnip, the river is going to run dry and we're going to be having our islam brothers step in and help takeover our country like they have egypt and all of the rest of them. this is worse than a defeat. this is a defeat for our
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country. i thank you for taking my call. i appreciate it. you all have a good day. >> let me share this reaction or analysis. the dean of supreme court reporters. he's been at the coverage of the court longer than any of the other long tenured reporters there. here's what he writes. the rejection of the commerce clause and the necessary and proper clause of the constitution should be understood as a major blow to congress' authority to pass social welfare laws. using the tax code especially in the current political environment to promote social welfare is going to be a very chancy proposition. speaking of the tax code, here is a viewer, jean marie sullivan who writes about the decision. it proves ben franklin's adage that you can count on two things, death and taxes. next a phone call. deborah is the democrat in richmond. hi, you're on.
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>> caller: how are you doing? >> well, an interesting day here. what's your reaction? >> caller: i'm so happy. i'm so happy. i'm so happy. i worked ever since i was 18. i'm 58 now. i've had good jobs with what people would call the best insurance. but a lot of people don't get the chance to test their insurance, you know. and like you will find that the insurance companies have been allowed to pick and choose who they are going to help. the doctors have to go under their guidelines. they can't do anything frivolous. i have been denied referrals. i have been denied procedures. and what i'm going to look up is if they want to research something, they need to research and see how many republicans got stock in these insurance companies and prescription drug companies. >> let me jump in. republican leader mitch
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mcconnell is now on the senate floor. let's listen. >> americans were promised lower health care costs. they're going up. americans were promised lower premiums. they're going up. most americans were promised their taxes wouldn't change, and they're going up. seniors were promised medicare would be protected. it was rated to pay for a new entitled instead. americans were promised it would create jobs. the cbo predicts it will lead to nearly a million fewer jobs. americans were promised they could keep their health plans if they liked it, yet millions have learned they can't. and the president of the united states himself promised up and down that this bill was not a tax. this is one of the democrats top
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selling points because they knew it would never have passed if they said it was a tax. the supreme court has spoken. this law is a tax. the bill was sold to the american people on a deception. it's not just that promises about this law weren't kept. it's that it made the problems it was meant to solve even worse. the supposed cure has proven to be worse than the disease. so the pundits will talk a lot today about what they think today's ruling means and what it doesn't mean, but i can assure you this. republicans won't let up whatsoever in our determination to repeal this terrible law and replace it with the kind of
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reforms that will truly address the problems it was meant to solve. now, look, we passed plenty of terrible laws around here that the court finds constitutional. constitutionality was never an argument to keep this law in place and it certainly is not one you hear from republicans in congress. there is only one way to truly fix obama care. only one way. that's a full repeal. a full repeal that clears the way for common sense step by step reforms that protect americans access to the care they need from the doctor they choose at a lower cost. that's precisely what republicans are committed to doing. and the american people weren't waiting on the supreme court to tell them whether they supported this law. that question was settled 2 1/2
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years ago. the more the american people have learned about this law, the less they have liked it. so now the court has ruled it's time to move beyond the constitutional debate and focus on the primary reason this law should be fully repealed and replaced. because of the colossal damage it has already done to our health care system, to the economy and to the job market. the democrat health care law has made things worse. americans want it repealed. that's precisely what we intend to do. americans want us to start over and today's decision does nothing to change that. the court's ruling doesn't mark the end of the debate. it marks a fresh start on the road to repeal. that's been our goal from the
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start. that's our goal now. and we plan to achieve it. the president has done nothing to address the problems of cost, care and access. we will. mr. president, i yield the floor. >> that's the senate republican leader with the same message as the house speaker, republican speaker, and that is that they will both be organizing their members toward repeal of the health care law. that's senator tom harkin, democrat of iowa who is there on the screen right now along with ben cardin of maryland. looks like they will shortly be offering their reaction. a few house members are there as well. we will be listening in as they get to the microphones for their prepared reaction to today's health
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