the mdgs are what they were intended to be. i think they were largely for public relations purposes but also to get all the donors aligned on the same subjects and to make some comment -- commitment to each other, really, and to other countries. you pretty much get what you measure. i think one of the reasons why they are important is that they do focus people on a few of the key indicators. but another problem, you just alluded to it, is we are completely unrealistic about what we can actually attain. i think, i'm not sure why we do that but it is continual. my husband actually works at u.s. aid and he's constantly battling with all the people in the bureaus that are actually responsible for some of the different programatic areas, the different sectors, agriculture, food security and health, whathave you, because they always want to vastly sort of inflate the likely achievements of their programs and i don't know why we do that except for perhaps it's because we want to persuade congress that we're worth investing in.

i'm not sure. but i think one of our problems is that we are not realistic about what we can actually hope to achieve with our money. >> can i actually, because i'm a recovering political speech writer, i do have a very strong perspective on why we do that. for those of us who come into the world and do this work and want to make the world a better place, we all do need a personal source of optimism to continue to get up in the morning and work on these terrible things so we're sort of sometimes guilty of externalizing our own optimism and in this work where we don't live in a dictatorship, we don't just have money handed down to us by fiat, we do have to persuade people, we are constantly living on the knife edge of what is and what ought to be. the very great challenge that we have in this work any time we are talking about it and promoting it is giving an expression that's realistic, that won't lead to disappointment but that's also hopeful enough to get your audience excited and wanting to come with you. i think that's the core dilemma that we all face in this business and as you say, it

leads us down some pretty unhelpful directions. >> okay. i'm sorry to report that we are out of time. i would like to apologize -- [ applause ] >> i would like to apologize to the people in the balcony who had questions that didn't get answers but i would also like to thank our panel which was great. thank you very much. [ applause ] you're watching c-span 3. coming up next, remarks from tea party activist, c.l. bryant.

that will be followed by ellen ochoa, deputy director at nasa's johnson space flight center. then a discussion on the history of executive power. this past week with congress on break, we have been featuring some of american history tv's weekend programs in prime time here on c-span 3. tonight, we look at african-americans resistance to slavery starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern, the life and escape of former slave, robert smalls, who served south carolina in the u.s. house of representatives. at 10:00 p.m. eastern, vanderbilt professor richard blackette details how fugitive slaves planned and executed escapes to canada, mexico and the caribbean. american history tv in prime time tonight here on c-span 3. on c-span 2, we have been featuring some of book tv's weekend programs in prime time. tonight, our conversation with pulitzer prize winner and best-selling novelist, anna

quindlen on in depth. book tv in prime time all this week on c-span 2. >> we had pulled in for the refueling that morning around 9:30. we had moored the ship to a pier. >> the former commander of the "uss cole" on the events surrounding the al qaeda attack that left 37 injured and 13 dead. >> at 11:18 in the morning there was a thunderous explosion. you could feel all 505 feet and 80,000 tons of destroyer thrust up and to the right. it almost seemed we were hanging in the air for a for a second. we came back down in the water, lights went out, ceiling tiles popped out, everything on my desk lifted up about a foot and slammed back down. i literally grabbed the underside of my desk in a brace position until the ship stopped moving and i could stand up.

>> more with mr. lippold sunday at 8:00 on q & a. >> tax reform should focus on the results we want. it could create jobs. it can spark innovation. it can expand opportunity. it can guarantee our competitiveness. it can put america back on top. >> you can talk about goals all you want but we have put up stop signs. we have put up stop lights and none of it ever changes congress' behavior. >> from the time that i had lost total control of the committee and went up for two pitchers of beer with my chief of staff and we came back and called the head of the joint tax commission, give us a tax bill with 25% rate top. he says okay, have to get rid of mortgage interest deduction. i said what about 26. >> you could make the advantages to homeowners much more

progressive in the domenici-rivlin tax reform. what we did was to convert the home mortgage deduction to a tax credit at our lower rate. >> changing the tax code. yesterday and today. current and former lawmakers at the bipartisan policy center on the battles won and lost. find it on the c-span video library. next, remarks from tea party activist and a former texas naacp chapter president, c.l. bryant. he spoke at this year's annual leadership program of the rockies. mr. bryant discusses why he left the democratic party and became a black conservative during this hour-long event. >> matt kibbe is president and ceo of freedom works. he was with the organization previously known as citizens for a sound economy for over years years. an economist by training, he's a well respected national public

policy expert, best-selling author and political commentator. "newsweek" called kibbe one of the master minds of the tea party politics. his expertise has led to frequent appearances on national news shows, including fox news, nbc, abc, cnn, msnbc, fox business, pbs and c-span, dubbed the scribe by "new york daily news," kibbe is co-author with dick armey of the "new york times" best-seller "give us liberty, a tea party manifesto." please help me welcome matt kibbe to lpr to introduce c.l. bryant. [ applause ] >> how you guys doing? does anyone here believe in freedom? does anyone here think that the government spending too much money it doesn't have? okay. here's the test. does anyone think sometimes as frustrating as it is that maybe you have to beat the republicans before you can beat the democrats?

okay. i just wanted to make sure we were in the right place. later on today after lunch, we are showing the colorado premiere of a movie that i am really proud of called "runaway slave." that will be showing right after lunch. i got to tell you, money back guarantee, it's worth your time. it's powerful. you might get a little choked up but you're definitely going to be fired up after you see this movie. so, please, if you can, stay for that movie. i first met c.l. on september 12th, 2009. we had both walked from freedom plaza 1.3 miles up to the capitol for what turned out to be the largest fiscally conservative protest i believe in the history of the united states. and we didn't really know each other at the time, but we were there with about a million of our best friends and he got to

the stage long before i got there and i had never met him but i heard this voice coming from the stage. has anyone ever heard c.l. speak? you're in for a treat. he may melt your face off so be prepared. [ laughter ] but i was wading up to the stage through this huge crowd, and c.l., i think, as much as anybody captured what i call the tea party ethos. there's something about the men and women who have risen up to take their country back. they have a set of values. and more importantly they're willing to put their personal lives, their families, their careers on the line for the things that they believe in. and c.l. represents all of those things. i couldn't be more proud that he's my friend. i couldn't be more proud for the work that he's done, the work that we've done together in the

trenches in the last two years fighting to take this country back. can you guys give a round of applause for c.l. bryant. [ applause ] >> thank you. hello, patriots. it's good to be here with you today, and it's still a great day in the usa. and i want to have you join me before we go any further in thanking the finest men and women on the face of the earth and that's the american soldier. let's give them a round of applause. [ applause ] i want to thank not only matt for that wonderful introduction, of course, his friendship and freedom works and all that they have meant to me and we've meant to each other the last couple of years. but i want to thank chairman

schaefer here as well as sherry and christina. i want to thank four friends that i have met here in the last 48 hours. karen and lee and sharon and don. i want to thank you for your hospitality. and i am very happy to be here with patriots like yourself and people like you who want to see a legacy continue in this country. i understand that it was 20 years ago that terry constantine planted an idea that in fact has grown to what we are experiencing here today. 20 years ago, of course, we were coming to the end of the reagan/bush era.

and our nation somehow in the time that has passed between there and 2009 had fallen asleep. unfortunately, an enemy crept in among us, and it planted seeds of discord among the american people. in the last 2 1/2 years we as americans must have learned something. and i have a feeling that the two things that we have learned is, one, if you take for granted liberty and freedom, they can and they will leave you. and two, is that we as americans must understand that we have

enemies all across this world, and they hate us because we're free. they hate us because we have the right to pursue liberty and freedom. there are those who actually covet what we have here in this country. they covet our success. they covet our lifestyles. they covet our wealth. somehow when they see us and they look around at places like this, the broadmoor, which is a fine, fine place, somehow they think that this just happened. they hear our message. they hear our message that

america is a place where if you're bold enough, brave enough, you can still secure what we all have known as the blessings of liberty. not only for us, but for our children. and i have come here tonight or this afternoon, and i want to make very certain that you understand that the islamic threat is real and the security to our country is real, and it's time that we wake up. it's time that we understand that we must defend our country against all enemies, foreign and domestic. we must make that stand right here and right now today. there are those who visit our

land and they see what we have accomplished, and they go about their way to manipulate the system to remain here. and i want you to understand that our nation is, in fact, a very unique country. a thought occurred to me a few days ago, that if we were to become russian citizens, we still would not be able to become russians. if we were to go to denmark and become citizens of denmark, we'd still never be danes. argentina. if we were to go there, we'd never become argentineans. but the most important thing and

the most beautiful thing about america is that it does not matter where you came from. we all have come here, and we all are now regardless of whether we're irish, if we're english, if we're african descent, we all now unite in this country as america, and that must not go away! we must hold onto who we are. [ applause ] to achieve the american dream, but while we slept an enemy crept in. friends, i need you to understand something. there is an evil among us, an evil among americans and our way of life, and that evil is called multiculturalism.

that is something that will destroy the fiber of our country if we don't pay attention. you see, there are those who do, in fact, covet what we have, they want to come here to our country, and i need to tell you, they don't want americanism. they want our stuff. they want what we have, but they do not want to assimilate as all immigrants have done. they do not want to become american. you and i in this room tonight, we understand -- or this afternoon -- we understand the american dream, and we understand what that means, the american dream.

our movie "runaway slave" goes deeply into and examines the root of the american dream. we examine the freedom that we have, and we examine the idea that america is not a land of guarantees. america is a land of opportunity. and you here in this room today, graduates of lpr, know what is possible in this country. and you know what is necessary to preserve our nation and our freedom. but i bring you a warning. i bring a warning to all conservatives. and that is this.

it is time that we take on a different type of posture. it is time that we take on a posture of offense. for too long we have been in a defensive posture, and the enemies of conservatism, the enemies of the republic, have been assaulting us. they have been abusing us. and they have been insulting us. matt and i over the last couple of years have been called all types of names from all quarters of our country. that's okay. but we must understand one thing. it is time for us to man up as americans and go on the offensive as conservatives and defend who we are and who we stand for. [ applause ]

you apologize far too much. we have the truth. the progressive liberals will always try and put you on the defensive, but i tell you this. stop being on the defensive. be who you are. stand on the principles that did, in fact, cause this country to be the greatest country the world has ever known. there was a time in our nation when we were certain that we could defeat any enemy, any foe.

and we could always identify our enemies. and we were certain that whatever enemy that attacked us from without we would be able to repel that enemy. but i come to bring a startling revelation to us now, and that is that our enemies as was said before i came to the podium, are very unidentifiable. and as a former president of the naacp in garland, texas, in a time when we were suing the school district in federal court, i have seen both sides of this argument.

the reason i broke with them is because i came to the realization that the agenda for them was not to just control my agenda, but the agenda for them was to control me. and then to use me as a tool to control a bloc of people. that is the liberal progressive method. and their methodology has, in fact, controlled a bloc of people for over 50 years. and if you continue to sleep, if you continue not to pay attention to what's going on, then the very method that they

have used to enslave that group of people, believe me, they have the same designs on the entire country. and my friends, tonight, this afternoon, if, in fact, we are unsuccessful in our efforts to take back the white house and the senate here in 2012, then our country will be fundamentally changed, and we cannot afford for her to go away. that's why we need a leader who can gain respect again of both our friends and our foes.

that's why it is important that we choose the right candidate in this presidential election. americans are tired of apologizing for who we are. and i tell you right now, we are -- we do not need to bow down or apologize to anyone. we are the greatest nation on the face of this earth. [ applause ] we need a leader that our friends and foes will respect. we need a leader that will put swagger back into the american stride, and we need a leader who is proud to be an american every day of his life, not just when it's convenient. we need a patriot.

we need someone who will not bow down to anyone. now, that leads me to our children. if i may for a moment, tell you that i'm very concerned about our children. i was talking to lee and karen and sherry and don the other night at dinner, and we had a very interesting conversation about our children. and as i said earlier, there are people who come here to this country and they want our stuff. well, i want to tell you something. while we slept those who are in

our classrooms who we have entrusted to teach our children, have poisoned their minds. while we slept our children have been taught by those who have been schooled in socialist doctrine that america is not an exceptional country. our children have been poisoned not just by hollywood but by the use of your tax dollars in public schools. and even in the literature that you buy for them, that america is the problem in this world, and just as we try to expose in

"runaway slave" that america is still a great land of opportunity, your children, many of them, your grandchildren for sure, are under the impression that somehow you sitting in this room are wild-eyed hysterical people who think -- whose thinking is antiquated. your children, believe it or not, we came to the conclusion they want our stuff. and even though we don't like to think about this, there are some who are waiting for the demise of the free market system, the

demise of capitalism so they can get our stuff. but this is a hard thought that i'm about to share with you. and that is, unfortunately, our children, we have been pursuing happiness, we've been pursuing life, we've been pursuing liberty. and we've been making them happy. but our children, their happiness has depended upon us, and they, unfortunately, do not have the same drive, the same determination, to get for themselves what we were willing to sacrifice to get.

the old saying in louisiana comes from an old song, it says momma may have. poppa may have, but god bless the child whose got his own. simple idea, but it is one that is missing in our children. they don't want to get their own. they want to have yours. and they want to have it now. my grandfather, a man who was a great man, but if he wrote his name on the back of this wall, he would not be able to read it.